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Lexus GS 350
In my opinion, there needs to be a separate discussion for these upcoming Lexus GS models. They are sufficiently different (engines, Navs, etc) and have enough interest to warrant their own thread. I am specifically looking forward to seeing how the car mags deal with them and how they stack up against the competition.
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Wheels are wimpy compared to ES & IS.
You can't even tell the rear end between the two cars until
you come close to it.
Buying a fully loaded Camry XLE still gives plenty of cash left.
How does this compare - should I be happy? Seems like the dealer here in Houston was really unwilling to give much as there weren't many GS350's in their lot (only saw 2 or 3).
I live in Houston, Texas
Please advise latest money factor and res. % for a GS 350 w/ AWD for a 12,000 mile lease 36 months. Unless there is a sweet spot anywhere up to 48 months.
Thanks
"Lexus GS 300/GS 430 - 2006+" topic. I'm curious to hear whether others agree that this is a serious problem.
My sense on the GS350 is that the performance side is much improved but still would be interested in people's thoughts on whether the handling/road feel is becoming more comparable to BMW 5. AWD definitely is a plus and I will not consider the 530XI until it gets the new engine (535) because current model's acceleration is subpar vs. GS. On the negative side for GS, car size is tight especially with poor trunk (don't know why Lexus can't get trunk and handling worked out -- if they did, it would be world beater).
I live near San Jose, CA and the sales tax is a whopping 8.75 %... so I never compare the out of door price because it is a very subjective number. If you are interested on purchasing a 07 GS 350, try not to pay $1k over than the invoice or you will be high jacked. Hope this helps.
give my comments about the GS350 when the ODO passes 1000 mile mark.
I haven't seen any GS350 on the road in the Boston area except for mine. Dealers are short of GS350 here.
Agree about poor trunk space.
John J.
Should I go with 18" wheels or 17"?
I bought my gs350 recently in Houston. Paid about $2000 over invoice, or around $1000 over if you figure in the Lexus Pursuits Visa offer which provides $1000 in credit if you use it in the purchase of the vehicle.
I think $1000 over invoice may work if you target a gs350 that the dealer already has on the lot - doesn't hurt to try.
I worked with 3 of the 4 dealers and really liked Westside Lexus the most. The sales person I worked with was great and I would reccomend him if you're interested.
Regarding wheels - I like the looks of the 18".
Mine only got around 24MPG on highway. That's very bad and not even close to what it said on the sticker.
The car only has 650 miles.
I have no real idea what I am getting on pure freeway driving, but I suspect it's around 30MPG if I look at the fuel mileage bar display. I guess an easier way to tell would be to fill up and hop on the highway for a while.
I've heard that it's supposed to improve after you put some miles on the car. I've got about 850 on mine 'already' and after this past fillup, I saw about 16 MPG around the city and when I did a 30 mile stint on the highway, I wound up around 22MPG. This was me doing very conservative driving however - lots of cruise control and coasting. Also, I'm using 93 octage gas, which is supposed to help fuel efficiency.
again, 27 Hwy/20 City. So it's not bad.
I am using 93 Octane too. I hope the MPG improves when I
put more milages on the car.
My Accord 03EXV6 still gives me 30+MPG/Hwy since the day I took it home.
Anyway, my GS saleman told me "don't use the cruise control
for the 1st 1000 miles". Just want you to know.
Happy New Year.
I just test drove the GS350AWD. Very quick. Steering has no feel. Tiny trunk. Very quiet and refined. Really couldn't judge handling on the straight roads the test drive was on. M35X not as quick but handled better with far better steering feel. Bigger trunk and interior. More sport than luxury. Better lease. I'm leaning towards the M.
My question is with the redo of the es, What makes the gs worth 10k more. I guess rear wheel drive is worth having to some people, but realistically most buyer dont care. What do you guys see as the value in the gs. I think it looks better, but the es is not so bad anymore
As for the Lexus ES vs GS, I've driven both and it is a difficult decision. Aesthetically, I like the ES interior but the GS' exterior. Mechanically, I prefer the RWD of the GS (but then, the ES has a softer ride).
I see more differences between the Lexus models then that of Infiniti.
What makes any car 10k more than any other car? Marketing hype?
I test drove both ES & GS. GS is more responsive with the gas pedal and feels more luxurious.
What turned me away from the ES are
1. The tail lights. They look like Camry's.
2. The dealer didn't accept my offer of $2500 above the
invoice price (with the UL+ML package).
When it comes to the ES 350, ask yourself - do you want comfort first, with some decent horsepower? Or do you want horsepower, better road handling and to ride in a posh cockpit? If you answered the latter, dont kid yourself and get the ES 350, you will be dissappointed. On the other hand, if you want a gussied up Camry, the ES 350 is for you.