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That being the case, they should offer the pearl coat to everyone that might want it and just charge extra for it.
Hyundai is not the only manufacturer to do this with this style of color. Nissan and GM have done the same. Just a classy color that, obviously, people are willing to pay a premium for.
So, either the consumer is paying for the pearl coating or the additive put in the white paint to give it the pearl effect. Again, unfair to the consumer as they are not offering an option of with or without.
However, I will agree that it is being paid for as you see a lot of pearl white vehicles on the road. Heck...I was even considering the powder white pearl Azera.
There is. Pearlescent paints are similar to metallic paints in that both contain specific additional light diffusing/reflective ingredients. Metallic paints add finely ground aluminum powder. Pearlescent paints add finely ground mica powder. Hyundai's pearl white is a multi-stage painting process, though when I bought my '03 Sonata, the pearl white carried no surcharge. The fact that they now charge a $200.00 premium for pearlescent paint should be a hint of what the company plans for general pricing if/when their cars achieve a breakout popularity point in north America.
Guess I'll just stick to being an electrical engineer and leave the paint discussions to you guys
Has anyone been offered a 2007 Azera with factory installed XM radio? If so, who is the dealership that made the offer?
I agree completely, but if you look at Posting #17 of the Shop Manual thread, the author insists that XM radio is available or standard equipment on all Azera's
I was trying to make the point that even the "company" doesn't know the featurers of their products that they are currently selling.
Very poor communication between engineering, sales and Consumer Affairs.
At least, I'm sure that's what the braintrusts of the company might tell you because it sounds good! LOL
With XM being so readily available at this point, I do see it becoming available on the Hyundai vehicles as a late '07 addition...long before Blue Tooth becomes an option! Also, IF (notice that's a big if) XM is available in overseas markets, then it would apply to models sold outside of the U.S.
I don't see it as poor communication between engineering, sales and consumer affairs. I actually see it as poor communication between the sales people and the consumers. All of this is something sales people should be on top of when they are selling a car to a potential buyer.
Why would you expect local sales people to have more knowledge about the product than the representive of the company who works the Azera group of the Consumer Affairs department.
It would seem to me that they are paid to give assistance with consumers concerns, problems or questions.
The salesperson is paid a commission to sell cars. They get little or no technical training about the product they sell.
On your point about Azeras sold in other countries, the Korean version of the Azera has many features not available in the US.
It boils down to sales people making the consumer feel comfortable by knowing the product and being able to convey that to the customer so that there are no questions later on down the road.
I can't tell you how many times I've walked into a dealership knowing more about a particular car than the guy getting paid to sell it to me did.
This is rather cliche, but knowledge is power.
As far as other markets...I believe the Azeras sold in Austrailia have a few differences from those sold in the U.S. as well. So, to avoid having to put out multiple shop guides and such, they put it all in one so if that's what you have, then it applies...if you don't, then it doesn't. Isn't that just wonderful? :confuse:
Service department THINKS and has been told that XM will start in Azera's after first of the year and that there may be a refit available for current 07's. All agree it was supposed to start on all 07's and when that didn't happen, then it was supposed to start on Oct 1 production, but that also did not happen. So, another target date has been set. Remember Azera's are produced in Korea, not US like Sante Fe's, etc.
As you can see by post 116 XM radio is not available on 2007 Azera.
It may be available at a later date. Many other features may also be available at a later date.
See if your local dealer will put into a sales contract that they will change the radio, when it becomes available, at no cost to you. I would be surprised or shocked if they agree.
1. steering wheel audio remote upgrade ( more features)
2. Addition of lights on side view mirrors
3. new instrument cluster.
4. changed to donut spare tire from full sized tire
I don't believe that any other changes have been reported.
As all you guys know by now this waiting for the 2007 Azera Limited with the Ultimate Pkg., got me very atnsy or very P. O.
Of course I enjoy reading everyone posts with all the great advices.
By now you must be thinking what is LL writing about , well , I few posts ago I read " Should check the Infiniti M " well well I did and and one more and I love the M35 got all the goodies I want plus many I never will need , of course it does not have rear folding seat but all models will have something for me to complain.
Yes is a bit higher in price but the LX 470 should cover it and still get some money back. I have not test drive it YET .
Is it What now or Now what !!!
Let it rip , I am listening ....
Lou
Different league than the Azera so not really sure what you're looking for...I think your confused :confuse:
Buy what you like and not what people tell you to. Life's to short...live it to the fullest. If money was no option to me, I'd take the Infinity "M" over the Azera any day
I got the LX470 that give me a good cushion $$$ wise.
Yes , you are right I am extremely confuse with so many choices.
I going to go next week for a test drive on a M35 . We got an Infinity dealer In Melbourne.
Thank I'll keep you posted.
Lou
Have you test driving this vehicle ? Tell me more.
Guy , is correct I am one confused puppy. So much to pick from , if the 2007 Azera would be here , case close but as you well know nobody knows about Florida arrivals.
Thanks
Lou
The Infiniti M is a great car. A friend has M45.
Completely different price point. Not a fair comparison.
Sorry about the missing "0"
It was close but I back down, too many tamales, that I am willing to spend.
OH OH very tempting but no cigar .
I had an Angel in one shoulder and the Devil on the other and me in the middle trying to decide . The M car AWESOME just like you said Bob.
I kept telling myself I need to downsize .
My neck is very sore from all the pulling . I almost sign on the dotted line but another but , NO WAY JOSE . Is too much $$$$ ( pesos ) , Bolivar's .
I am back to my previous spot on the floor wating for the trickle to begin.
In retrospect I believe I am doing myself a good service in watiiiinnnngggg for the 2007 Azera to stumble down Florida way in a spite of the manufacture treating us, the paying customer as a given soul and take WITHOUT complaining the little crumbs of bread and bones that they are willing to share.
Oh boy Oh boy I am in a bitchy mood today ( excuse the Chinese )
Lou
Talking about Chinese, what are they going to be offering in 07?
BTW the temperature is going to drop tonight and stay low for a few days.
Referring to the Chinese , well, .... considering that about 90% of the products we consume in this great country is " Made in China " I would bet that some of their goals are Worldwide monopoly .
I enjoy shopping at Home Depot but anyone would very hard press to find product "Made In USA".
Referring to your question I am short on words.
Lou
PS : Sorry I too a big detour from our main subject , Azera.
Actualy I'm serious about the Chinese question. I've read that they will be introducing at least two new models in the US to compete with the Japanese and Korean models.
Remember the Russian Yugo ?? It was not accepted well in this country.
If the Chinese learn from their Asian counterparts and built reliable and low cost cars they could in 20 years or so be able to break into the American market.
One more thing Japan and China are and always will be enemies I say this because, where are the Chinese planning to get parts and engines from ??
We are moving way out of the main subject , finding the '07 Azera.
I love politics as long as is not extremist either left or right.
We should open a new post.
Auto industry worldwide politics and how they affect us now and into the future.
We seem to be hate in some countries but they want us to buy their products and not make stand of their individual politics like they do to us . In other words buy and shut up.
One sample Venezuela president or dictator Chavez and his free oil like to insult us by insulting our president ( if you like Bush or not ) he is not attacking Bush he is attacking our free country. Chavez wants to turn Venezuela like is Cuba , where the population is starving , for more than 50 years thru many different American presidents.
Of course is our fault because of the embargo , this totalitarian countries are expert in shifting blames .
Sorry I got carry away.
Lou
In spite of myself, my first choice was correct the 2007 Azera instead of letting the space between my ears lead me toward other vehicles, when deep inside I keep telling this guy (me) to be smart and economical.
That said where is this elusive, the Azera Pimpernel .
Lou
Russian Yugos? I believe Yugos were designed and built in the former Yugoslavia prior to its break-up and the horific ethnic cleansing war under the late Slobodan Milosevic. Whatever China's and Japan's cultural and political differences, neither nation puts them ahead of cooperating to make a buck. Toyota already has a huge factory in China churning out Camrys for China's emerging upper-middle class flush with cash to buy consumer goods. Why would you assume the Chinese would have to rely on Japanese manufacturers for engines, anyway? With anywhere from 5-10% enrollment of mainland Chinese nationals in any given year during the past 15 years at American technical management and engineering schools, is it a stretch to accept that graduate engineers and managers returning home to China would be incapable of designing and overseeing the production of competent automobile engines? I hope you're not seriously implying that the Chinese are culturally and intellectually inferior to the Japanese.
Wow! This is way too political. My original reference to Chinese cars was that I have read that two large Chinese manufacturers were going to enter the US market in 07. One was to be a very low priced car, and the other a much more luxurius model to compete with the low higher end imports.
I re-read my previous post to refresh my mind and I do not mention anything about their culture or intellect.
I can tell that you are very well verse on this subject .
Instead of corraling this post related to vehicles , your welcome to send me an E-mail and we can exchanged our views more open.
Lou
It was my fault for opening the can of Yellow Bees concerning politics.
The chances of us agreeing about cars are alot greater than politics.
Peace and Good Will
Lou
Aside from the bang for the buck the Azera offers, my wife and I gravetated to the Azzy because of our satisfaction with her 2002 Santa Fe, obviously an entirely different vehicle.
Oddly, several things came with the '02 Santa Fe (standard) the '07 Azera does not have. Most notable are:
Item: '02 Santa Fe '07 Azera
Privacy Glass Yes No
First aid kit Yes No
Full size spare Yes No
I leased this baby for 30-months. I am thinking the "BH" Equus RWD / V8 should just about be here at lease termination.
Regards to all,
Dean
Have you tried to put in the trunk of your Azera a 40 or 50 pound bag of dog food , or about 5 cinder blocks, I think that might help with the rear noise.
Lou
No dog food or cinder blocks, but I do cram in a couple hundred pounds of hardwood and laminate flooring samples I use for my business. I'm sure my trusty dealer can correct the "clunk" when it goes in for service @ 3,500 miles.
Dean
Have a new Azera about 60 days old, about 2000+ miles. Love the car, great value and good operation, however the in town gas mileage is just plain lousy, 16, 17, 19 mpg. Wonder if anyone else is experiencing this and knows of an adjustment that will stop this gas guzzlin...or does it get better as the mileage adds up?
JJTEE
It might get slightly better, although I have over 12,000 miles on mine, and numbers still stink.
Pure highway driving gives me 24-26 and city is 16-17.