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Hyundai Azera 2007

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  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Again, this is the wrong place for this conversation. Please feel free to find or create an appropirate discussion on the Auto News board to continue.

    We need to stick to the Azera here. Thanks.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    Sorry!
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    :)
  • cambreacambrea Member Posts: 26
    I tried Hyundai's web site... and there is "owener's page/link" so owner can enroll. However, it doesn't seem work correctly. Anyone has done that successfully?
  • jaymagicjaymagic Member Posts: 309
    Apparently the Azera must be doing okay for Hyundai, since they just announced a new model. The Azera GLS will come with a smaller less powerful engine (3.3L with 234 hp) and better FE. It will sticker for just under $25,000.

    Hyundai is raising the price on the SE by $800 and will keep the Limited where it is now at $27,995.
  • jaymagicjaymagic Member Posts: 309
    The new Ultimate Package for the Limited upgrades the 315 watt Infinity to a 650w Infinity with Surround Sound (includes XM and MP3). Apparently all Azeras will also come with tire pressure monitoring. The Package went up slightly is now $3,100.

    I would have like to have the upgraded stereo with XM, but my guess is that it will be at least another month before it hits any dealers in Denver.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE:309
    Where are you finding this new information?
  • tenpin288tenpin288 Member Posts: 804
    Try here...

    Hyundai News Site
    ;)
  • dborthdborth Member Posts: 474
    Good stuff, thanks for posting.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    The sales of most models of Hyundai, including Azera, have gone down year over year by the month from 2006 to 2007. The exception is the Santa Fe which has shown much sales improvement.
    Granted that overall auto sales have been down, but Hyundai should step up it's campaign and improve it's customer support and communications.
  • tenpin288tenpin288 Member Posts: 804
    Good stuff, thanks for posting.

    You're welcome. :blush:
  • tonycdtonycd Member Posts: 223
    Wish you could get the smaller engine with the higher trims. The 3.8 seems both faster and thirstier than necessary (not that I object to "faster than necessary").

    Also, now that they've spiffed up the exterior of the SE to Limited level, the only real deal-breaker in the SE is those ugly analog gauges. Heck, I'd almost pay extra to avoid the Limited's delaminating, hot-in-your-hands fake wood steering wheel. Wonder what it'd cost to swap it out of a Limited for the all-leather SE wheel? (And does anyone out there know if the SE wheel has all the same wheel-mounted stereo controls?)
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE:315
    There are many great aftermarket steering wheels on the market and many good trim shops can do fantastic leather wrap on your existing wheel. Many marine canvas shops do hand stitched elk skin wraps which look and feel wonderful.
    By the way, the Limiteds stock wheel never seems to me to get too hot.
    My original wheel did de laminate, but was replaced under warranty, and so far has been OK
  • joe97joe97 Member Posts: 2,248
    Add Accent to the list.

    The Elantra is still having supply issues, while the Sonata figures are expected to be down due to reduction in fleet (a program initiative from HMA ended around 4th quarter 06. Save the Tucson as it needs an update, and last but not least the Azera is receiving the 3.3L V6 which should bring additional traffic.

    HMA is currently running two ad spots via various media outlets, promoting its lineup/awards. Should be on most, if not all of the network television channels.

    Here: http://www.hyundaismartevent.com/
  • stcroixboystcroixboy Member Posts: 63
    Interesting to note that Hyundai is "holding the price on the Azera Limited at $27,995" (including the additional $200 for XM) but then increasing the ultimate package by $550 for an upgraded radio with an extra 300 watts and two additional speakers. Seems a bit steep, now bringing the Limited w/Ultimate package to over a 31K list.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...but know and understand that you won't be paying over $31K for a new Azera.

    Actually by adding the GLS trim level, I think Hyundai has done the Azera justice by giving the consumer more to choose from. I mean, the Azera has proven to be worth more than what it actually sells for...at least in the eyes of most Azera owners.

    For Hyundai to actually get over $30K for the Azera, they'll have to add the other tech features everyone wants such as laser guided cruise control, bluetooth and smart key. Then...I can see an Azera selling for just a little more than $30K.

    Up until now, I believe the Limited with the Ultimate package could be rolled out the door for anywhere between mid-$26K up to high-$27K. So to be honest, adding all the other things may put the Azera just at $30K.

    I can't see it going beyond that if they have intentions of bringing the Equus (whatever it may be coined at some point) to market. Either that or something coming of the Concept Genesis. Whichever model makes it to production...shouldn't sell for much more than $35K.

    The Azera is already giving the ES a run, the next Hyundai flagship may give the GS a run too.
  • jaymagicjaymagic Member Posts: 309
    I have about 5000 mi. on my Limited now and for the last 1900 or so, the average has been moving up and has now hit 24.1 No major trips, daily driving in Denver Metro area, 4x110mi round trips into the mountains, very little A/C. I would expect it now to settle in about 23.7 or better for most of the driving I do.

    Did the 1st oil change and service at 3100 and mileage has improved ever since. Pennzoil Synthetic.
  • joe97joe97 Member Posts: 2,248
    Agreed.

    The soon-to-be available 4 cylinder across the Sonata trim levels will allow Hyundai to re-position and better market GLS Azera.

    Also, many would be surprised to find out the majority of Azera purchases are made up of the Limited trim, most with the Ultimate package. Is Hyundai ready for premium/luxury? I think so.
  • ykangykang Member Posts: 88
    Hi Azera owners!
    I'm currently driving Azera Limited and this car will be my next Hyundai after lease end. This car was called "BH".
    http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=79912
    ;)
  • dborthdborth Member Posts: 474
    Thanks for posting this link. The photos look great. I too plan on upgrading to this new "Genesis" RWD/V8 at my Azera lease termination. :)
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE: 322
    Interesting reading, although I believe most of us need some help with translation.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Bob, what is there to translate? That is one bad mama-jama!!! If Hyundai is serious about bringing the Genesis to market...folks will look at cars a bit differently. I mean...300+ HP, rear drive, 0-60 MPH in under 6 seconds, not to mention all the safety features it will have...for around $35K!!!

    The Genesis definitely has the look and from the poweplants they are proposing...should have the swagger to back it up. Also, it would seem that anyone complaining about the performance, or lack thereof when it comes to the Azera...will delight in sliding behind the steering wheel of the Genesis as it has a more closely balanced weight distribution.

    Hyundai hit a bullseye with the Azera, if the Genesis drops as what they intend...it would be like Robin Hood splitting a bullseye arrow!!!
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE: 325
    Are there any details available for the Genesis?
    Features, specifications, options etc.
  • hardhawkhardhawk Member Posts: 702
    This car is supposed to be unveiled at the NY Auto Show next month from what I read. Looks pretty exciting.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Considering the Genesis to be a concept car at this point...the only spec/feature/option information you'll find is what you see in that write up. Until Hyundai makes a firm commitment to bring that vehicle to market, there will only be speculation as to what the car MAY offer.

    However, based on the write up...it sounds like a VERY interesting car to say the least. Even the exterior, which evokes images of the BMW 6 series and a couple other vehicles...it's a very beautiful design. :blush:

    I love how the exhaust tips are incorporated into the rear bumper valance. Also, the amount of chrome used to accent the vehicle is tasteful, not gaudy. The front end gives an almost sinister smirk that dares you to take this car lightly. I like the black in between the side view mirrors and the a-pillar, makes the mirros seem like they are floating next to the car. Then...there are the wheels. Those are the kind of wheels that you wouldn't have to replace with an aftermarket option...those are beautiful!!! :D

    Hyundai...PLEASE bring this car to market!!!

    The Azera is a home run, but the Genesis would be a bottom of the 9th, bases loaded, 2 & 3 count, GRAND SLAM to win the pennant!!! :shades:

    P.S. I'm already trying to figure out how I'll convince the wife to let me trade my Azera in for this baby. That way if it does come to market...I'll have a plan!!!
  • gamlegedgamleged Member Posts: 442
    One thing I noted was that the top speed will be limited to 130 mph. Guess the current Sonatas and Azeras slipped by the watchful eyes of the US regulators... :P
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    That's a technicality that I can overlook just for the sexiness factor of this car. I mean...it's not too often I take jaunts in excess of 100 mph anyway (even though this car may make you want to do so regularly). If anyone in America is worried about the top speed being governed at 130 mph and uses that as an excuse to not buy it...well, that's just weak. :confuse:

    However, I'm sure someone would come up with a way to remove the governer if one really wanted to find out what the full potential of this vehicle could produce.

    You are right about the Azera slipping past...I've had mine up to 135 mph and could have given it more, but the road started getting a little too curvy for those speeds so I backed off.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Genesis Revealed

    "As you'd expect, Hyundai is unleashing its entire arsenal of technology and gizmos with the Genesis. It will be Hyundai's first U.S. car with adaptive cruise control, push-button start, and high-intensity discharge headlamps. Also available will be heated and cooled seats, navigation, bluetooth, and an Infinity surround sound stereo."
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Hyundai Genesis - Top Speed

    The only thing that's really lacking in this picture...an AWD variant!!!
  • sergio19sergio19 Member Posts: 90
    I'll be the first in my area to get this car as soon as it becomes available.

    Cant wait.

    It'll be the fastest trade they see.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE:331
    Bring it on!
    The only thing that would scare me is the thought of having to deal with Hyundai Consumer Affairs and ill advised Service Advisors again.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    With that, I would have to agree. I'm truly hoping that they work all the kinks out before they drop it. I would hate to see THAT be Hyundai's black eye. They've certainly seemed to step up and answer the quality issue!!!
  • drdonrsdrdonrs Member Posts: 164
    The only problem I see is will the car sell in existing dealerships or should they consider separating out the model ala Lexus and Infinity? Also I hope they have service people better prepared to support this new model? I would definitely be interested in trading up with my Azzy.
  • cobrazeracobrazera Member Posts: 352
    U.S. cars are speed limited almost exclusively based upon the speed rating of their tires, not upon any US laws. If the tires on the new Hyundai are not rated for a higher speed, you don't want to go there even if you reprogram the computer. Just get some higher rated tires, reprogram and you're set.

    Fact is, tho, I haven't done any high speed runs in years due to the heavier traffic congestion nowadays. A quick blast into triple digits and then back down is usually about it - take the word of C & D as for top speed.
  • azeradaveazeradave Member Posts: 42
    Allnet

    Traveling 135 in front of the Capitol Building is entirely too Fast!!
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    LMAO If I could get up to 135 in front of the heavily guarded capitol bldg...I would LOVE it! About 10 years ago, I could manage 60, but now-a-days...25-30 at best.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Unfortunately, with the woes that Hyundai is facing with customer service issues, it would be hard for the American consumer to accept a luxury name plate birthed by Hyundai. For now, I do believe the Genesis would come out as a Hyundai. Which, based on the Azera, isn't a bad thing because it builds credibility for the maker.
  • dborthdborth Member Posts: 474
    The logical customer base to launch Genesis will be Azera owners and I think we can expect a "personal invitation" and an added incentive to step up with a clever program reserved just for "us." Beyound that, they will have to pour a ton of marketing $'s on TV / print media al la Lexus / Infinity years ago when the LS / Q v-8's hit the market. Sadly, I think they will be compelled to go with their existing dealer network.

    I just completed a round trip LA / Vegas and had 2 valet parking encounters. (1) "What kinda car is this, man?", (2) "This CAN'T be a Hyuadai." On the 664 mile round trip a black '06 pulled up next to my black '07 (at 80 - 85mph)and we looked at each other in shock and disbelief. :surprise:
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    I would have to agree with you on that.

    Right now...us Azera owners are a rare breed that's slowly taking over! ;)
  • jaymagicjaymagic Member Posts: 309
    Went to a casino here in Colorado. My Azera was the first they had seen at the valet parking. "Very Swanky" was the comment I got. Naturally, I had to agree. The black interior with the grey stiching realy impressed them.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE: 331
    Remember when the Azera was first shown at the foreign autoshows it was the Korean Grandeur which as we know has had all of the bells and whistles going way back. Smart key, lazar guided cruise control,Navigation etc. have been included for a long time.
    When introduced into the US, they made the decision to pull a lot of these features to achieve the 30k price point.
    None of us know what the marketing department will decide, if and when they introduce the Genesis here.
  • dborthdborth Member Posts: 474
    You can bet the farm Marketing in Fountain Valley / Korea WILL screw up, if Genesis does launch. Why? 1. Hyundai dealer network. If Corporate, dealer sales & service can't figure out the Azera, how will they cope with an upgrade? My closest dealers share Hyundai with other major brands and don't know the difference form a can of shoe polish to a box of Q-Tips 2. They are already behind the curve and exposed to radar..."300 plus HP"? MB "E" and BMW "5" target consumers won't respond, even at 20 grand less. 300C is ready for the next phase. This "new" model is already obsolete to the purist. 3. Bells & whistles...give the consumer what they want and if it exceeds 35 - 40 K for the max. edition, so be it.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE:345
    Hyundai still must overcome the "image" problem.
    Even many of us Azera owners, who for the most part are satisfied or extremely pleased with their cars are frustrated by the support and lack of cooperation from the company.
    Luxury and high end buyers demand more prompt and accurate attention to their concerns.
    To participate in this market, they must abandon their "entry level" philosophy.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    They are already saying that all the features will be put into the US produced Genesis.

    All the features that were SUPPOSED to end up in the Azera, are in the Azera...just in the ones over there in Korea!

    Trust me, Hyundai knows what they have to do if they're going to compete directly against the E-Class, 5-Series and GS's. All of that stuff will have to be in the US produced Genesis.
  • jimsinkoreajimsinkorea Member Posts: 23
    Hyundai is doing the right things with their vehicle market around the world. From reading posts, expcially from Bob, it sounds like people believe Hyundai should run their company the way American car companies do. Let's thanks Hyundai for not doing that. Hyundai is, by far, the top car company in Korea and China. They have a very strong market around the world and are slowly becoming a brand of quality in the minds of consumers. I realize this is a U.S. forum and the conversation here is mostly based on what, As an American, we wan't. However, Americans have been conditioned into believing Japanese cars are the way to go, excluding true luxury German Cars, and that is our fault for being easily influenced by commercials. Toyota's are great cars but so are Hyundai's and to be honest, I hope Hyundai continues under the radar because it is a part of what keeps their vehicles low priced.
  • dborthdborth Member Posts: 474
    "They are already saying that all the features will be put into the US produced Genesis."

    Don't you mean Korean produced US version?
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    When I said U.S. produced, I meant...those that are produced for the U.S. My bad.

    One question will be...are they going to be produced there in Korea and shipped, or will they use their U.S. plants to build them???
  • jaymagicjaymagic Member Posts: 309
    I have read that they will be Korean built (maybe they won't include the speed governor, I know the Azera doesn't have one).

    As an extremly happy 2x Hyundai owner, the only negative comments that I tend to agree with are the ones about the dealerships. I think corporate Hyundai is doing ok (other than the chairman stealing $3M lol). I happen to have bought both of mine from a Hyundai only dealership and while I think they should be a little more up to speed before models are sold, they have treated me very well and handled any sales or service issue I have have had. When I left my XG 350L for service, they gave me a new Santa Fe as a loaner. They always wash the car before they return it (as did my Toyota dealer). Now they don't spend a lot of money on an upscale facility like the Lexus folks, but I am not now nor do I expect to be paying Lexus prices to get a few more ferns next to my waiting seat.

    My advice to a prospective Hyundai buyer would be to chose an exclusive Hyundai dealership if they can. Frankly, I think that is probably good advice for all brands.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE: 347
    Mike
    Where have you read that Hyundai states that they are going to market the Genesis in the US, and that they will introduce the model with particular features?
    The articles that I have read state that it is still a concept car, and that even such design features as the grille and headlights have yet to be decided.
    If you remember the Azera articles in 05 and 06 listed many features that were not included when the car came to market.
    I still don't know why that don't, at this point, offer the US Azera with the available Korean features.
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