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We need to stick to the Azera here. Thanks.
Hyundai is raising the price on the SE by $800 and will keep the Limited where it is now at $27,995.
I would have like to have the upgraded stereo with XM, but my guess is that it will be at least another month before it hits any dealers in Denver.
Where are you finding this new information?
Hyundai News Site
Granted that overall auto sales have been down, but Hyundai should step up it's campaign and improve it's customer support and communications.
You're welcome.
Also, now that they've spiffed up the exterior of the SE to Limited level, the only real deal-breaker in the SE is those ugly analog gauges. Heck, I'd almost pay extra to avoid the Limited's delaminating, hot-in-your-hands fake wood steering wheel. Wonder what it'd cost to swap it out of a Limited for the all-leather SE wheel? (And does anyone out there know if the SE wheel has all the same wheel-mounted stereo controls?)
There are many great aftermarket steering wheels on the market and many good trim shops can do fantastic leather wrap on your existing wheel. Many marine canvas shops do hand stitched elk skin wraps which look and feel wonderful.
By the way, the Limiteds stock wheel never seems to me to get too hot.
My original wheel did de laminate, but was replaced under warranty, and so far has been OK
The Elantra is still having supply issues, while the Sonata figures are expected to be down due to reduction in fleet (a program initiative from HMA ended around 4th quarter 06. Save the Tucson as it needs an update, and last but not least the Azera is receiving the 3.3L V6 which should bring additional traffic.
HMA is currently running two ad spots via various media outlets, promoting its lineup/awards. Should be on most, if not all of the network television channels.
Here: http://www.hyundaismartevent.com/
Actually by adding the GLS trim level, I think Hyundai has done the Azera justice by giving the consumer more to choose from. I mean, the Azera has proven to be worth more than what it actually sells for...at least in the eyes of most Azera owners.
For Hyundai to actually get over $30K for the Azera, they'll have to add the other tech features everyone wants such as laser guided cruise control, bluetooth and smart key. Then...I can see an Azera selling for just a little more than $30K.
Up until now, I believe the Limited with the Ultimate package could be rolled out the door for anywhere between mid-$26K up to high-$27K. So to be honest, adding all the other things may put the Azera just at $30K.
I can't see it going beyond that if they have intentions of bringing the Equus (whatever it may be coined at some point) to market. Either that or something coming of the Concept Genesis. Whichever model makes it to production...shouldn't sell for much more than $35K.
The Azera is already giving the ES a run, the next Hyundai flagship may give the GS a run too.
Did the 1st oil change and service at 3100 and mileage has improved ever since. Pennzoil Synthetic.
The soon-to-be available 4 cylinder across the Sonata trim levels will allow Hyundai to re-position and better market GLS Azera.
Also, many would be surprised to find out the majority of Azera purchases are made up of the Limited trim, most with the Ultimate package. Is Hyundai ready for premium/luxury? I think so.
I'm currently driving Azera Limited and this car will be my next Hyundai after lease end. This car was called "BH".
http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=79912
Interesting reading, although I believe most of us need some help with translation.
The Genesis definitely has the look and from the poweplants they are proposing...should have the swagger to back it up. Also, it would seem that anyone complaining about the performance, or lack thereof when it comes to the Azera...will delight in sliding behind the steering wheel of the Genesis as it has a more closely balanced weight distribution.
Hyundai hit a bullseye with the Azera, if the Genesis drops as what they intend...it would be like Robin Hood splitting a bullseye arrow!!!
Are there any details available for the Genesis?
Features, specifications, options etc.
However, based on the write up...it sounds like a VERY interesting car to say the least. Even the exterior, which evokes images of the BMW 6 series and a couple other vehicles...it's a very beautiful design.
I love how the exhaust tips are incorporated into the rear bumper valance. Also, the amount of chrome used to accent the vehicle is tasteful, not gaudy. The front end gives an almost sinister smirk that dares you to take this car lightly. I like the black in between the side view mirrors and the a-pillar, makes the mirros seem like they are floating next to the car. Then...there are the wheels. Those are the kind of wheels that you wouldn't have to replace with an aftermarket option...those are beautiful!!!
Hyundai...PLEASE bring this car to market!!!
The Azera is a home run, but the Genesis would be a bottom of the 9th, bases loaded, 2 & 3 count, GRAND SLAM to win the pennant!!! :shades:
P.S. I'm already trying to figure out how I'll convince the wife to let me trade my Azera in for this baby. That way if it does come to market...I'll have a plan!!!
However, I'm sure someone would come up with a way to remove the governer if one really wanted to find out what the full potential of this vehicle could produce.
You are right about the Azera slipping past...I've had mine up to 135 mph and could have given it more, but the road started getting a little too curvy for those speeds so I backed off.
"As you'd expect, Hyundai is unleashing its entire arsenal of technology and gizmos with the Genesis. It will be Hyundai's first U.S. car with adaptive cruise control, push-button start, and high-intensity discharge headlamps. Also available will be heated and cooled seats, navigation, bluetooth, and an Infinity surround sound stereo."
The only thing that's really lacking in this picture...an AWD variant!!!
Cant wait.
It'll be the fastest trade they see.
Bring it on!
The only thing that would scare me is the thought of having to deal with Hyundai Consumer Affairs and ill advised Service Advisors again.
Fact is, tho, I haven't done any high speed runs in years due to the heavier traffic congestion nowadays. A quick blast into triple digits and then back down is usually about it - take the word of C & D as for top speed.
Traveling 135 in front of the Capitol Building is entirely too Fast!!
I just completed a round trip LA / Vegas and had 2 valet parking encounters. (1) "What kinda car is this, man?", (2) "This CAN'T be a Hyuadai." On the 664 mile round trip a black '06 pulled up next to my black '07 (at 80 - 85mph)and we looked at each other in shock and disbelief. :surprise:
Right now...us Azera owners are a rare breed that's slowly taking over!
Remember when the Azera was first shown at the foreign autoshows it was the Korean Grandeur which as we know has had all of the bells and whistles going way back. Smart key, lazar guided cruise control,Navigation etc. have been included for a long time.
When introduced into the US, they made the decision to pull a lot of these features to achieve the 30k price point.
None of us know what the marketing department will decide, if and when they introduce the Genesis here.
Hyundai still must overcome the "image" problem.
Even many of us Azera owners, who for the most part are satisfied or extremely pleased with their cars are frustrated by the support and lack of cooperation from the company.
Luxury and high end buyers demand more prompt and accurate attention to their concerns.
To participate in this market, they must abandon their "entry level" philosophy.
All the features that were SUPPOSED to end up in the Azera, are in the Azera...just in the ones over there in Korea!
Trust me, Hyundai knows what they have to do if they're going to compete directly against the E-Class, 5-Series and GS's. All of that stuff will have to be in the US produced Genesis.
Don't you mean Korean produced US version?
One question will be...are they going to be produced there in Korea and shipped, or will they use their U.S. plants to build them???
As an extremly happy 2x Hyundai owner, the only negative comments that I tend to agree with are the ones about the dealerships. I think corporate Hyundai is doing ok (other than the chairman stealing $3M lol). I happen to have bought both of mine from a Hyundai only dealership and while I think they should be a little more up to speed before models are sold, they have treated me very well and handled any sales or service issue I have have had. When I left my XG 350L for service, they gave me a new Santa Fe as a loaner. They always wash the car before they return it (as did my Toyota dealer). Now they don't spend a lot of money on an upscale facility like the Lexus folks, but I am not now nor do I expect to be paying Lexus prices to get a few more ferns next to my waiting seat.
My advice to a prospective Hyundai buyer would be to chose an exclusive Hyundai dealership if they can. Frankly, I think that is probably good advice for all brands.
Mike
Where have you read that Hyundai states that they are going to market the Genesis in the US, and that they will introduce the model with particular features?
The articles that I have read state that it is still a concept car, and that even such design features as the grille and headlights have yet to be decided.
If you remember the Azera articles in 05 and 06 listed many features that were not included when the car came to market.
I still don't know why that don't, at this point, offer the US Azera with the available Korean features.