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Would you please elaborate what does an Accord I-4 have to do with the Azera GLS 3.3 V6? And what option do you speak of?
I do wish I had gotten a Camry hybrid immediately after filling up, but once I pull out of the gas station and marvel at the smooth, fast, and quiet ride in this classy machine, those thoughts go away.
Personally...I already use mine as a coin tray and the lighter receptacle is just another power receptacle. Simple as that!
The ashtray is useful to those of us who do smoke. As you said, it can be used as a coin tray or to hold other small items for those who don't smoke. Good point about the extra power outlet.
With mass production, the cost of including an ashtry & power outlet is next to nothing. Far better than some cars charging $50 for a crummy ashtray, especially when the ashtray can be used for other things by nonsmokers. One example: it would be a good place to "hold" a cell phone.
Rich
Feature wise and value for the buck you'll be hard pressed to find a better alternative. The Avalon will run a minimum of $3,000 over the Azera apple to apple equally equipment. Many Azera owners gripe about the lack of a factory nav. system. The same car in Korea (Grandeur) has many additional features vs. the US version. If you want a performance driven harder platform sedan this is not for you, although for a FWD-6 it screams pretty good in a straight line.
Drive it and compare it to the Avalon. Keep checking the monthly Hyundai website factory incentives. Try to find a dealership that sells and services Azera's and not just Sonatas and lower grades.
If you pull the trigger, you won't be disappointed. Good luck.
As dborth said, you won't be disappointed when you step on the gas pedal, that's for sure. I've driven it from MD to FL and back and the ride was great! Wonderful highway manners, smooth ride and I never get tired of driving it.
We have had our share in here already.
If you're really in the market to buy a car and you go test drive one...you'll find it hard to leave the dealership without making an offer. It's one thing to see the list of standard offerings and what comes with the optional packages you can pay extra for, but to actually drive it and see what it's all about is a deal closer. Not to mention the warranty (which none of the other makers can touch...especially if you opt to pay for the extended warranty which takes them all up to 10yr. /100K miles).
Good luck with your decision.
Go ahead...go take a test drive, take the wife with you and I'm sure the both of you will fall in love with it.
I guess I was fortunate...I have a very early '06 and didn't encounter the problem.
Before you take the car out, make the sales person check the tire pressure (sounds crazy, I know), but that has been a huge issue with these cars. Folks have been finding out that the air pressure has been far from optimal. I believe the best number to shoot for is about 35 psi. It is supposed to be done when the dealer receives the cars, but they rarely do.
Mike
Regarding the tire pressure.
My car wants to be at 30 PSI.
If I increase to eve 33 PSI, it wants to make funny sounds.
The same thing happens at 28 PSI.
I find that I must check pressure every couple of weeks to keep it on target.
Get yea over to Costco and have them change the air in your tires!
No, I'm not crazy. They will change the air out from a mixture of natural air (20% oxygen) to one that will contain a more concentrated amount of nitrogen.
This is what you want, as you will not see your tires loosing air. Something about the air molecules being larger and therefore more likely to not be able to get out of your tires, although I did not know the Michelins had that problem. My Michelins do not, but the junky Firestones that came on my Focus sure did loose air. When I change to the Nitrogen with them, no more loss of air.
Also, your tire temperatures will not fluctuate as much and therefore you will not see pressure variations from cold to warmed up tires.
Try it; You'll like it.
The nitro they put in is certified to be 99.5% nitro. This is supposed be make a big difference in the molecules permeating thru the tires, maintaining a more constant pressure. Nitro also doesn't heat up as much on long highway runs.
Since that "air" change we had temps as low as the 20's to a few blisfull days where the "high" got into the 70's. Right now the temp is upper 40's. During that time I haven't noticed a fluctuation in pressure, visually or in handling. Constant, properly inflated tires will help with MPG as well as longer tire life.
The nitro I got is supposed to be good for 18 months. If you get a flat, they will refill at no charge...Same if you change to winter tires and back.
I figured $35 for 18 months is about $0.50 per tire per month. If I save 1 gallon of gasoline per month due to more proper inflation, then I'm ahead of the game...plus if I get longer tire life...
Worst case, I could have wasted $35.
But, so far, so good. Nitro seems to do what it claims and I can avoid that pain in the $$$ checking the air pressure and stopping to put in more air.
You can check an advertising piece about nitro at www.whynitrofill.com. There must be other nitro nitro systms out there. This is just the one I'm familiar with.
I can't prove anything about nitro "benefits vs don't bother" but I think it is worth $2 a month.
Air is about 80% nitrogen. If it is the oxygen that leaks out through the rubber, then after topping up the tires several times you'll have close to 100% nitrogen in them even without paying for the exchange.
But I also read something about the moisture level of the gas coming from regular air hoses vs. the nitrogen hoses. Anyone have more info about that?
Adaptive transmission takes awhile to learn your driving habits. It will usually improve after several hundred miles.
I want to get outside air flowing through with the fan on.
I turn OFF the heating and cooling system. Everything in the climate control center shuts off. I turn on the FAN and direct the airflow to the upper vents (not defrost) and have the temperature set somewhere between 70-80. Although the A/C light remains off, I hear the compressor kick on and the air coming out is cold. There is only one way I have found to get fanned air flowing in without the compressor kicking in is to turn the system OFF, raise the temperature setting to about 85 and then turn on the fan. The dealer said there is no problem. Anyone else experiencing this? Any fixes? Is this normal? THANKS. :shades:
If you had it on the Auto setting, the A/C light isn't on even though it's on.
I also asked if they would program the auto lock doors. He said it would cost $25. I was a little surprised, they charge to activate a feature that comes with the car. So I didn't have it done just yet. Has anyone else been charged for this service? So far my Hyundai service experience is disappointing. What I got from my Mitsubishi dealership was 10 times better. I'm beginning to think you really do get what you pay for. My wife's Lexus was expensive but the whole service experience is first class.
Don
You are not alone. I learned about the auto lock program feature by reading the owners manuel after I left the lot. My dealer charged $45.00, which I paid. Then, I get a mailer from Hyundai offering it for free with a coupon to take to dealer. I did, bitched and finally got a refund.
I too had a problem the service manager couldn't identify during a ride along (noisey rear suspension.) He said "it's probably the low profile tires".
Obviously, the salesman should have pointed out the lock program along with other features of the car, but must have been trained not to as an after purchase service department cash cow. The service manager was simply brain dead. Fortunately, this CA dealer lost the line and is out of business.
Hyundai dealer arrogance, service department stupidity and salesmen ignorance / dirty tricks are three reasons I can think of that will make for interesting observations this time next year when the much hyped "Genesis" is launched.
Hyundai may indeed be builing much improved product here and in Korea. They badly need a dose of selling dealer improvement with integrity.
Rich
Servicing is about the main thing that brings in repeat customers, and word of mouth advertising is the best sales technique available. The sooner Hyundai realizes this the sooner they will grow bigger and stronger. Their present sales and service needs a lot of help. Also they seem to ignore (mostly) their customers problems. Their product is good, but does have problems, and they need to recognize and solve these problems. My 2 cents.
van
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