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Hyundai Azera 2007



  • joe131-
    I agree with your analogy of the early Lexus LS, and people being a little hesitant at first to plop down $36K for a rebadged Toyota. We too are like them, in that our Azera's will only go up in price once Hyundai builds it's brand image.
    One thing Lexus did very well with the LS - was adverting/marketing. Ant car enthusiast around in '89 will remember the champagne glasses on the hood of the dyno mounted LS. It's unfortunate that Hyundai, despite the very favorable reviews the Azera has received, has not supported the car with a strong marketing campaign.
    I have no doubts that Hyundai will continue it's rise to prominence in the auto industry, and within 7 years be selling cars right alongside Toyota/Lexus, Nissan/Infiniti, Honda/Acura, MB and BMW. They are following the very same game plan that Toyota & Honda did. They also have the benefit of an argueably better global economic climate from which to launch. Get used to it boys, Hyundai is here for a while. As for Ford, GM & Chrysler, I'm sad to say, it's going to be a tough 10 years.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    I think Hyundai left themselves room to grow on the HP for both the Azera and the Sonata. I mean...with the Maxima pretty much having to go up to 300 hp (since you can get an Altima with 270 hp), I think we'll see an Azera at or close to the 300 hp range within a couple years. I can see the Sonata jumping up to 265 hp to keep up with the Altima.

    I'll be holding on to my Azera for quite a while as we are looking at a new crossover vehicle as the family mover as we have a new addition on the way. However, if the Azera does jump up to the 300 hp range, I may trade mine in for that model! ;)

    With the way the Azera has been received (the car itself once people actually get them), I'm sure a flagship model above it will get the accolades as long as they use a similar formula that they employed when coming up with the Azera. Refine the ride a little bit more and I think they'll have a grand slam!!!
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Right now, the strongest thing Hyundai has going for the Azera is word of mouth. You're right in that Hyundai is killing themselves with the lack of advertising for the Azera. Even in the Hyundai End of Year Clearance see all the cars except for the Tib and the Azera.

    Back in January, they ran a couple of ads for the Azera that lasted maybe 2 weeks and then you didn't see them any more. Then, the most recent ones I saw were about a month ago and you only see it sporadically at best.

    People really do need to realize that Hyundai has awakened and now has both eyes open. They have realized what they need to do to stake a claim on the industry. Hyundai has forced Nissan & Toyota to step up their game in what options are available on their cars. Only problem is, they can't touch Hyundai in what is offered as standard equipment. In almost every Hyundai, the only options you really have to pay for are an upgraded sound system and a sun roof...the car pretty much has everything else as standard equipment and that is one thing that's killing the Big 3!
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    One word...NO

    You will not see V8 in the Azera. Why? Because there is no need for the V8 when the Lambdas are very flexible and can be tuned to as high as 300 horses.

    You will see the V8, however, in the upcoming RWD luxury sedan, the new 4.6L V8, pushing at an estimated 340hp+
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    I V-8 for the Azera, the 3.8 V-6 can be tweaked to push 300 hp or maybe a little more.

    I do believe the new flagship will have a tweaked Azera V-6 available in it's SE (or whatever they call it) model and the V-8 as it's Limited power plant.
  • dborthdborth Posts: 474
    Entirely different model. RWD, slightly larger with a base 6 and a V-8 option. Search Hyundai "BH", a ton of information. Volvo / Ford aren't involved, Hyundai already has the V-8 in Korea.

  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    I have just returned from local ( SE Florida) dealer.
    Although they have received and are able to sell 07 Azeras, they still have not been updated with parts program, giving them the ability to locate part numbers and diagrams of the 07 model.
  • jaymagicjaymagic Posts: 309
    I have also read what many here have referred to and that is taking the current engine to 300 hp. As we all know, it it putting out quote a bit of power now and uses REGULAR unleaded. I am guessing that if some of the aftermarket companies would put together an engine chip management program for the Azera, we could take the current engine to close to 300 just with tweaks that could accompany an upgrade to Premium Unleaded.

    Personally, I am not sure another 30+ HP would make me buy the chip and spend more for gas, but for some I would bet they would jump at it. For me, I would rather see the aftermarket companies offer a little more in the way of a larger/stiffer roll bar and some other suspension mods to give us a more sporting handling capability (if desired).

    I thought about changing the current Hyundai grill to the non H model, but now am of the opinion I want people to know what it is.

    I am afraid that by the time I can afford to trade in my Azera, the Equus will be more than I want to spend. I suspect the second year Equus, like my current O7 Azera and my old 02 XG350L. will have all I would want and at a great price. Five years from now, may be too late for me. I suspect in three years the 2010 Equus will be the one to go after for bang for the buck.

    In the mean time, my 07 is going to rack up A LOT of very pleasurable miles.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Don't be fooled. The current engine will only produce 263 hp using premium unleaded. Using regular knocks it down a few ponies, but...running regular, it still has plenty of kick. At least...this is what I was told by the tech at my service department.

    At any rate, I'm like you...I would love to see some performance pieces made for the Azera (outside of exterior mods). I doubt if I would ever change the exhaust system as they are designed to last for life! Like you...I'd love to see some larger anti-sway bars, strut tower bars, CAI system and maybe even a turbo or super-charger (maybe Alpine Developments will make one like they did for the Sonata). One thing I can vouch for that has enhanced the handling is the new wheel/tire package I put on. 20" rims with 245/35-20 tires. Curves and corners are handled with much more confidence. The ride is a bit stiffer, but not majorly noticable. The suspension on the Azera absorbs a lot more than folks think.

    In 2 more months, I will have had my Azera for a year and I've got just under 24K miles on it. Loving every minute of it!!!
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Posts: 1,134
    )) "In 2 more months, I will have had my Azera for a year and I've got just under 24K miles on it." ((

    That statement got me thinking. (inevitably a dangerous thing at my age and mental capacity...) My '03 Sonata is exactly 4 years, 3 wks old today. To date my car has had ONE warrantable defect that required a trip to the dealership for (a defective domelight switch) and ONE recall notice (the addition of a gravity operated rollover shut-off valve in a liquid return line to the fuel tank to prevent a fire). It's about 50 miles short of its eighth oil change. I suspect at the rate you're putting miles on your '06 Azera, in several days your car will be mechanically "older" than mine if it isn't already. Four years of essentially trouble-free operation. I wish you (and all other current Hyundai owners, regardless of model) identical good fortune! :D
  • joe131joe131 Posts: 996
    Put a performance chip on your new car and you might end up being very unhappy if there is ever an engine failure within the Hyundai factory warranty period.
    In that case, you might end up with no warranty coverage from Hyundai and no coverage from the chip manufacturer.
    Not only that, you might not even find out the bad news until many months or years after the failure. And during that waiting period, you'll have probably spent a lot of your own money for repairs and/or done without the use of the car, not to mention legal expenses.

    Something about the wheels of justice grinding slowly.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Happy New Year to you Ray_h1!!! The mileage on my Azera is building up much slower than on the '02 Sonata I had. In the 4 years I owned it, I had racked up just over 105K miles on it by the time I traded it in.

    In those 4 years and all those miles...there was one recall issues (side airbag sensor replacement to ensure bags didn't deploy when door was slammed), other that that I had 5 warranty repairs with only one I considered major and that being the shifting sensor on the transmission. The car never left me stranded or gave me a day of trouble. The most money I spent was when I got the timing belt replaced and that service was $1100.00 which included a spark plug change, alignment and front end bra.

    I'm not worried about the milage as I buy a car to actually drive it without thinking about how many miles I'm putting on it. Just another reason I keep up with the preventive maintenance. I think I can honestly say that this is the lowest number of miles I've ever put on a car in one year!!!

    Glad to hear you've had such good fortune with your Sonata.
  • jaymagicjaymagic Posts: 309
    The 02 XG350L I traded in on the 07 Azera, had 76,000 miles on it and the only wartranty items ever performed were a fuse for the wipers (early on) :) and a headlight at about 48K. Every function on the car worked when traded, the same as new.

    That's one reason I returned to Hyundai for the Azera.
  • jaymagicjaymagic Posts: 309
    As stated, its not something I would do, BUT with the newer cars, you have the ability to save the factory setting for the chip, then make the changes you want. If the car needs servicing, you then reprogram in the factory settings before hitting the dealer service door. Not that I know anyone who has done this, but......
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    I would rather just add a CAI system and maybe performance exhaust instead of replacing the chip. Those mods won't void the warranty (at least this is what the folks at the dealership I go to told me).

    Even if you did reset the chip to factory settings, they would be able to tell if the chip had been tampered with to begin least I would think that is the case.

    I don't think any of this would be an issue for those that buy the Tiburons, Elantras and Accents to tune as performance cars, but for the Soantas and Azeras....don't really think it would be worth it in the end. Just my own opinion.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    In my opinion, if you purchased an Azera expecting it to be a "performance" car you will be disappointed. It was designed and marketed as a "near" luxury sedan.
    It has sufficient get up and go to fit that catagory.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557 are correct and I think a lot of folks fail to remember that when they talka bout it in performance terms. The car really has more than enough get up and go and with a few tweaks here and there, it can be a decent performer.
  • I just found out that my new 2007 Azera trunk will stay unlocked if the car alarm is not activated. If i forget to alarm the car all you have to do is reach above the rear license plate and open the trunk. Two weeks ago I had a trunk filled with gifts, if the keys deactivated the alarm while in my pocket, trunk opens and gifts are bye-bye.... not good. My old car had a 2 second push button response to opening the trunk to avoid this problem and always was locked independent of the door locks. :confuse:
  • gamlegedgamleged Posts: 442
    I personally would prefer that the trunk be locked until I specifically SAY "open trunk," whether by key or by door switch or by wireless key fob, but two things: Yes, if you accidently send an "unlock door" message to your car, the doors and trunk will be unlocked, but all will relock after 30 seconds.
    The trunk button on the fob must be pressed for one full second to unlock the trunk, also releasing the latch, which may be what happened to you, unless the "doors unlock" button was accidently pressed and someone walking by as the door locks clicked and the lights flashed, took quick advantage.

    As it is, the only way to ensure no such accidents occur is to use the key only and to leave the remote home. Although I've twice set off the "panic alarm" in my garage whilst inside my house wearing too-tight pants, I'm still not quite ready to take that remote-free step! Instead, I'll try (harder) to lose that @#!@%% 10 lbs I want to shed...
  • Thanks for the info. I checked it out and it locks 30 seconds after I triggered the alarm.I can live with that.
    Best decision that I ever made was to get this car
    just don't tell my wife that :D
  • gamlegedgamleged Posts: 442
    By the way, I missed reading the "IF" in your post, "...if the keys deactivated the alarm while in my pocket..." and I'm happy that you didn't get "Scrooged!"...
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    RE: 232
    If this unlock feature truly bothers you, you can have the electric latch unplugged and only use the key to open your trunk.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    RE: 232

    If in your old car you activated the unlock door button accidently while the keys were in your pocket, could not someone open the door to your car and hit the interior trunk release button, giving them the same access to your gifts?
  • I don't know if many Azera owners are aware that there is a button located in the glove box upper left area that deactivates the switch pad on the trunk. It will only open with the key or fob.
  • RE:237

    I guess they could. My point is that the trunk becomes accessible to be opened from the outside, but with the car locking itself after 30 seconds I'll live with that. Oh and by the way the old car had no room for gifts.....the golf clubs took all the room :D
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    RE: 239
    Once the car re-locks itself, I believe that the trunk is also re-locked.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    I'm glad someone else remembered the button in the glove box. However, I do believe if you depress the button, the only way to unlock the trunk is with the key itself. I don't think the fob will even work once you've deactivated the remote trunk release.

    Not sure if you guys know it or not, but you only have to depress the unlock button one time (which unlocks the driver's door) and the trunk unlocks as well. Pressing the button a second time unlocks all the passenger doors.

    With the trunk so easy to open, I hardly ever use the remote fob to open it. A nice feature for them to add is if you do use the key fob to open the trunk, it should raise up on its own. That would be sweet!
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Actually...the trunk does stay locked until you specifically "SAY" open trunk. It's all in how you set it up.

    I've set my panic alarm off too with the key fob in my pocket with pants that aren't tight at all. I've pretty much eliminated the problem by putting the key and fob on one of those carbiner clips you see rock climbers use and I clip that to my belt loop so the fob is just hanging buttons facing away from me.
  • "eliminated the problem by putting the key and fob on one of those carbiner clips you see rock climbers use and I clip that to my belt loop so the fob is just hanging buttons facing away from me"

    Sounds attractive ;) Kinda like that macho biker look :shades:

    Have you thought about putting it on a chain? Would make a great final touch to complete the look :D
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