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Are there any chatrooms I can also keep check of:
1. edmunds.com
2. clubs.yahoo.com-->sport trac club
3. www.blueovalnews.com
3. www.pickuptruck.com
4. www.deja.com
THANK YOU
http://cnnfn.cnn.com/2000/07/06/home_auto/q_mateja_ford/
Geez, if you're going to write that, look waaaaaaaaaaaay back in the postings and you will notice that I've been posting and READING what other people are saying. How long have you been posting and reading on here? And the only thing that I was posting about the ST was my opinion, just like everyone else. Based on the fact that I own an ST and have test driven the aforementioned Asian vehicles, I can also give my opinion on those vehicles. So, I'm confused...how do you figure that I don't read what other's are "saying" when I have actually posted answers to questions that other's have asked? Hmmm... Then again, perhaps there were a few that I did miss since I do have a life beyond posting to this board or any other. Have a nice day! ;-)
"ACTUALLY IF YOU CARE TO NOTICE, THE BANTER BACK
AND FORTH ABOUT QUALITY ISSUES WITH THE NISSAN CC
IS AMONGST JUST A FEW OWNERS, CAN'T BE SAID ABOUT
THE FORD."
#1 Just so you know, I read your post. Yippee!
(Just a side note...SO FAR, "amongst" is not a word that shows up in the English dictionary but it really doesn't matter anyway.)
#2 You are correct, there are some quality issues with the ST. Nobody is denying that. However, the issues are really not that big and have less to do with the true safety and actual mechanical quality of the vehicle. Ford has a fantastic "trac" record and I have faith in their product. No product is perfect because none of us is perfect. How can we create perfection if we are not perfect ourselves?
#3 Who really cares? Each vehicle suits each individual differently. Aren't we each unique? That's why we are fortunate enough to have choices in the USA. We all have different preferences in people and things so we make choices based on those preferences. Isn't that wonderful that you are able to make those choices? I'd hate to see everyone driving the same vehicle. HOW BORING! I guess in the end, none of this really matters now, does it?
Do you like or dislike the soft, removable console?
Your feedback would be appreciated.. Thanks in advance.
I assume a overwhelming dislike is why ford is discontinuing it.
You are wrong, the soft console is not being discontinued. It is still being sold on all sport tracs that do not get the cloth upgrade or leather packages.
We own a 1985 GMC Safari Mini van, since new. The worst mileage was 12 city & 18 Hi-way.. Normal Hi-way, 70 mph 24 mpg.! Something is not right!!
The TRAC is our hope for better things to come. I love it! I spent all day Saturday, prep and Liquid Glass the Machine!!
remain lit for a while after you shut off the
vehicle so you can easily find the buttons at
night......
Has anyone noticed how the hexagon pattern on the
step bars matches the pattern on the top of the
pickup bed, and the front grille, and the speaker
covers and the horn section of the steering wheel,
and the rear bumper and...and.....
You know..those "hex" patterns throughout the design mimics the shape that bees use to store honey...watch for bees honey in your grille! They've been sighted in Texas clogging ST grilles,thus lowering mpg's and increased overheating! Wait..no..that was a dream I had. I also had a hard T-cover on my ST in that dream.First one to get the cover better post a photo..it includes bragging rites too!
By the way, I ordered and ARE lid, also. It should be here any day now.
I am even happier with the Sport Trac. The ride is better, I like the versatility of the design and I love the rear window opening. I do miss some of the feature of the Explorer - namely the automatic headlights and rear-view mirror, the Kleenex holder in the console (okay, I really miss the console), and carpeting.
Hope you're as happy with your ST as I am with mine.
The back seat of the CC is usless. There is no more room than the king cab/supercab. All nissan did was add 2 doors. When I climb in my shoulders hiot the b and c pillars, my foot gets stuck between the b pillar and the from of the back seat, then because the seat is so upright my head hits the ceiling, while my head is hitting the ceiling my knees are at my chest because the driver and passenger can't give up any legroom.
The CC has the squared off lae 80's dash. I don't beleieve it has changed much since then.
My ST has none of these problems. I can sit in the back seat with the front seat in the full rear position. The back seat has a comfortable rack to it. The ST has it all over the CC in the power catagory. The ST's dash has not changed much since the 95 explorer, but that is still better than the 80's.
Why I purchased a ST.
1. Ford! I have 4 ford at my house
2. America Made
3. Unique and nicer than the more expensive 4 door explorer
To see a picture of my ST go to club.yahoo.com and look at the pictures in the sport trac club.
This is a democracy but my vote is keep this topic strictly ST.
One problem I've noticed is that when you are trying to lower the spare tire with that tire iron contraption, you have to be very careful to avoid rubbing against the bottom of the tailgate. anyone else notice this yet?
am strictly ST. I thought everyone would get a laugh at what I had posted. By no means was it to start the charade that is going on in the other board. That board it purely an argument board, unluck this helpful and informative board.
Thanks, and stay off my back.
The dealer's bodyshop reported that this is typical for ford trucks being delivered these days. However, there is no exposed/bare metal. There is a clear "e-coating" that is applied to the metal which is why it feels (at least somewhat) smooth. No one could tell me what the "e" stands for...
Don't know if this is truth or c.y.a., but the dealer has recorded the info in my record and I have a copy in case of corrosion that might occur after the warranty period.
They are hoping you'll sell it first and stick someone else with the problem. I'm going to insist they repaint the doors on my ST. I plan on having it done when my fuel door is fixed.
Some folks mentioned that two were disc brakes and two were drum. Both Edmunds and the Ford websites list "4-wheel disc brakes".
Thanks.
Does your alarm sound when entering using the keypad?
Incidently, my black 4x4 appears to have topcoat even on the door bottoms, although I looked while in a parking garage and it was hard to see.
Consumer Reports 'Best Picks' and Consumer Reports
does not report any problems with the transmission. The ST uses the same tranny as both the Explorer and Ranger. Also, JD Powers * recently rated the ST's kid brother the Ford Ranger higher in quality than the Toyota Tacoma and Nissan Frontier. The transmission seems to have a pretty good Trac record. Not to dwell on a subject, but the Mazda B-series truck was rated THE highest quality pickup by JD Power*, it also uses the same tranny as the ST.
* source: J.D. Power and Associates 2000 initial
quality survey as reported by Reuters
My door bottoms are not smooth and will be painted the 1st chance I can leave it.
Anyone having a problem with how the rubber seals look that go around the windows? Mine are spotted/streaked. I haven't tried Armorall or any special cleaner yet. The dealer said they would replace if I so desired. Any suggestions as to what might change the appearance?
On my Island Blue ST the doors are not painted. The shudder problem was very pronounced the first couple of weeks. Now with 2K miles it is greatly reduced. The gas cap rubs. I just did the mpg for the first time and it was 17mpg. That is mostly short trips and AC full blast. (very hot here in TX)
I had a friend that rode with me last week that had bracelets on her right arm. The arm rest on the passenger side is all scratched up now. I don't think that they should scratch that easily.
Since you are just ordering, you would get an ST out of Run #2 which I suspect "ALL" the cosmetics would be already solved. Ford just had a scheduled shutdown at their plant and they use this time to reprogram all the robots and retool anything that is required.
As far as rear leg room its better than I expected. You will seat 5 very comfortably
My build date is 8/7-8/14 for an Estate Green fully loaded 4x4(minus the elusive tonneau). I really don't want to hear that the dealer is going to come back to me and ask for more money after the fact. Do they 'grandfather' you in if you signed your contract already? I expect they don't or won't because we are, after all, talking about money.
I am also considering having the dealer KEEP the vehicle to fix everything BEFORE I take delivery. This way, I won't have to be so sad to give it up, not to mention how inconvenient it is to give up your transportation that you love.
Can't wait for my baby to get here!!!!!!!!
Feed me your thoughts please!
When you say you received an email from Ford about your SportTrac, is that from your dealer or had you registered in some way to receive the update from Ford (proper)?
Thanks.
My email is ggreenwade@txchiro.edu if you don't want it publickly known to the world.
Thanks, GG
I had the power steering shuttering but it went away after about a 1000 miles. I think air needed to be purged out of the system. I had a friend with a 95 Explorer who experienced the same situation, also went a way.
The rear seat is VERY roomy and has as much room as the regular Explorer. It is also VERY easy to get in and out of the rear seat, especially compared to other 4 door trucks I looked at.
The rear seat is also functional in that you can fold down 1/3, 2/3, or the whole seat into a flat area for carrying stuff.
There is also covered storage behind the rear seats as well as the new child seat attachments.
The rear leg room in the back is great. I keep the front seats pushed all the way back and there's plenty of leg room for adults to sit comfortably.
It seems like there's more room than many "family" midsize cars I've rode in.
In regards to having the dealer keep your ST to fix the problems, not every sport trac has every problem (although it may sound that way from reading this board)
My gas cap does not rub, I have paint on the bottom of all of my doors, and the only shimmey that I've noticed is a little pulse when navigating into a parking space (and that goes away when I give it some more gas).
I'd check out these things for yourself and verify they are problems before you have your dealer fix them.
The Sport Trac that I ordered will be (Island Blue - Leather "Tan" - Sport, Conv, 4:10 LS, Moonroof, & 6-CD.
Order placed on the 14-Jun and have a build date per dealership purchase rep of 24-Jul with a delivery date of 1st or 2nd week of Aug.
I spoke with a rep at Ford Customer Service and he said I should get a "order #" & "Body Style #" from the dealer and call them back and they can track the truck for me.
The purchase rep at the dealership indicated to me that I have been moved from the 4-spk 6-cd to the 6-CD Pioneer but she has told me of no additional cost.
I looked around a few websites and found were they are offering to different upgrades.
The Pioneer and the Boston Acoustics.
Are these one in the same?
When I comapare them they read the same but the Pioneer states that its amp is 290 watts and the Boston Acoustics does not.
Also I wonder if they are gonna try and stick those of us with build dates of 24-Jul or later with the $1000 from the now standard manual transmission to the optional automatic transmission.
Any thoughts on these two issues?