2019 A4 PREM PLUS - Is this a good deal?

jcflaw99

In New York State ---14221

Retail Price $50,090.00
Savings $2,857
Selling Price $47,233
Rebate as cap reduction $3,000
Sub-Total $44,233
Fees $166.93
Sales Tax $4,145.39
Net Sales Price $48,545.32

Down payment = Out of Pocket $3,093 + Rebate $3,000 39/15k = $599.47
Down payment = Out of Pocket $3,004 + Rebate $3,000 39/12k = $579.27

Michaell

jcflaw99 said:

In New York State ---14221

Retail Price $50,090.00
Savings $2,857
Selling Price $47,233
Rebate as cap reduction $3,000
Sub-Total $44,233
Fees $166.93
Sales Tax $4,145.39
Net Sales Price $48,545.32

Down payment = Out of Pocket $3,093 + Rebate $3,000 39/15k = $599.47
Down payment = Out of Pocket $3,004 + Rebate $3,000 39/12k = $579.27

The sales tax is wrong - that is for a full purchase.

Ask the dealer to have them share their lease worksheet.

What does the out of pocket consist of?

39/15
Assuming Quattro - .00005 and 45%
$3000 incentives

jcflaw99

Michaell said:

jcflaw99 said:

In New York State ---14221

Retail Price $50,090.00
Savings $2,857
Selling Price $47,233
Rebate as cap reduction $3,000
Sub-Total $44,233
Fees $166.93
Sales Tax $4,145.39
Net Sales Price $48,545.32

Down payment = Out of Pocket $3,093 + Rebate $3,000 39/15k = $599.47
Down payment = Out of Pocket $3,004 + Rebate $3,000 39/12k = $579.27

The sales tax is wrong - that is for a full purchase.

Ask the dealer to have them share their lease worksheet.

What does the out of pocket consist of?

39/15
Assuming Quattro - .00005 and 45%
$3000 incentives

The dealer gave me 2 different kinds of printouts based on whether 12k or 15k miles
#1
The printout for 39/15k is
Retail Price $50,090.00
Savings $2,857
Selling Price $47,233
Rebate as cap reduction $3,000
Sub-Total $44,233
Fees $166.93
Sales Tax $4,145.39
Net Sales Price $48,545.32

and says Rebate $3000 and out of pocket cash $3093.65 = $599.47 payment

#2
The printout for 39/12k is detailed with
Term 39
Base Payment $579.27
Purchase option 23,542.30
MSRP 50,090
miles 12,000
disposition fee 495
excess mileage .25
Amount due at signing:
$579.27 for 1st month payment, $166.93 for fees and ins, $2,258.32 for upfront taxes = $3,004.52 cash on delivery plus $3,000 for rebate as cap reduction = $6,004 "down payment"

Michaell

jcflaw99 said:

Michaell said:

jcflaw99 said:

In New York State ---14221

Retail Price $50,090.00
Savings $2,857
Selling Price $47,233
Rebate as cap reduction $3,000
Sub-Total $44,233
Fees $166.93
Sales Tax $4,145.39
Net Sales Price $48,545.32

Down payment = Out of Pocket $3,093 + Rebate $3,000 39/15k = $599.47
Down payment = Out of Pocket $3,004 + Rebate $3,000 39/12k = $579.27

The sales tax is wrong - that is for a full purchase.

Ask the dealer to have them share their lease worksheet.

What does the out of pocket consist of?

39/15
Assuming Quattro - .00005 and 45%
$3000 incentives

The dealer gave me 2 different kinds of printouts based on whether 12k or 15k miles
#1
The printout for 39/15k is
Retail Price $50,090.00
Savings $2,857
Selling Price $47,233
Rebate as cap reduction $3,000
Sub-Total $44,233
Fees $166.93
Sales Tax $4,145.39
Net Sales Price $48,545.32

and says Rebate $3000 and out of pocket cash $3093.65 = $599.47 payment

#2
The printout for 39/12k is detailed with
Term 39
Base Payment $579.27
Purchase option 23,542.30
MSRP 50,090
miles 12,000
disposition fee 495
excess mileage .25
Amount due at signing:
$579.27 for 1st month payment, $166.93 for fees and ins, $2,258.32 for upfront taxes = $3,004.52 cash on delivery plus $3,000 for rebate as cap reduction = $6,004 "down payment"

The 39/15 information is simply wrong - in NY, you pay tax on the sum of the payments, the incentives and any non-government fees (dealer fee, acquisition fee)

On the 39/12 quote, the adjusted cap cost is missing - that is the negotiated selling price plus any taxes or fees you are not paying up front (acquisition fee of $895, for instance).

Without a full quote, there isn't much feedback I can give you. Keep asking the dealer for the full quote and worksheet. If they continue to resist, that might tell you something about the dealer.

jcflaw99

There were a lot of numbers wrong which I pointed out. This is the final quote:
Term 39
Base Payment $575.33
Total Payment $575.33
Purchase Option $22,540.50
MSRP $50,090.00
Miles 15000
Disposition Fee $495
Excess mileage .25

8.75% Tax

Amount Due
1st Month $575.33
Fees and Insurance $246.93
Upfront Taxes $2,253.45
Cap Reduction cash $98.00=Total Inception Fees of $3,173.71
Rebate as Cap Reduction = $3000.00
Total due at signing $6,173.71

I will ask for "adjusted cap cost" though
print out states "selling price" says $46,633 - 3000 rebate with "sub total" at $43,633 (i think that is the adjusted cap cost)

I made it clear that i'm not buying a "payment"... If you see $48000 adj cap cost gets me to $575 then they are lying...