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When I changed the miles on the Autofi site for the first car we got a quote on, it went from;
$510/mo. for 7.5K , $522 for 10K and $533 for 12K. Not too much difference.
He said that in the end, overage fees are about the same as buying miles up front.
I spoke to the the salesperson again today, he said:
$0 Due at signing. ($1482.34 Tax, title, fees included in payments)
Balance is $41809.34
36 months at 7.5K/yr is $592
48 months at 7.5K/yr is $551
47% Residual on 4yr; 57% on 3yr.
2.12% on 3yr, 2.92% on 4yr. Money factor (converted).
The MF sounds too high? He said that the MF and residual are set nationally.
I was playing around with the Autofi site. The sales person sent me a link for the car that we fist looked at and payments based on credit score stay the same from 900-601.
He said he couldn't plug in the exact car that we're looking at because it's at another dealership but there one that is very close in price at his dealership and can play with the numbers on it and it will be very close.
On a lease, there is no "balance". You need the adjusted CAP cost.
If the $1482 is rolled into the CAP cost, then it will be reflected in a higher number.
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On the sheet I have, they call the amount after discounts, plus tax and fees, the balance.
$43,975 MSRP
$40,325 after discounts,
$41,809 with taxes and fees.
Payments based on $41,809 with $0 due at signing.
48 months at 7.5K/yr. $551 mo.
47% Residual
2.92% APR
There are so few dealers in the San Diego area. I wanted a specific model. The only one I found was 135 miles away in Santa Monica. They're bringing it down tomorrow. What would be a reasonable APR?
The APR and residual isn't set nationally like the salesperson said? He made it sound like he had no control of it.
1.45% APR for 36 months
1.92% APR for 48 months
The base APR is set by the bank, but dealers can mark it up for increased profit. (which they have)
The correct residual for 48/7.5 is 49%, not 47%.
The marked up APR, along with the incorrect residual, adds nearly $50/mo.
Dealers cannot use the incorrect residual. I'd get that straightened out, first.
Then, tell them you don't want a marked up APR.
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Is there something that I could show him where the MF and residual is listed.
Other than your post.
Pricing I got- MSRP $55260, $49855 selling price, 52% residual, and 1.2% rate. Is this a great value?
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52% is for 36/15
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Is it better to pay taxes and fees up front or roll it in to the lease payments? My thinking is, why pay interest on fees? Nothing down saves you from not being covered by gap insurance in some cases, right?
I shopped a couple of other dealers. They both said MF is just over 2% on 48 month term. Only my local guy would go 48 months though.
Should I walk if he tries to stick me with 2.9% on a 48 month lease?
In CA
Pay government fees upfront, as they are non-taxable.
You can't pay taxes upfront, as those are assessed on each monthly payment
Sorry, can't make your purchase decisions.
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$2000 lease cash
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
1.45% APR
52% residual
$1000 lease cash
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I called around and couldn't get a better deal. Wouldn't budge on the MF and wouldn't throw in maintenance. 49% residual. No other dealer would do 48 months. $3600 in rebates and discounts isn't too bad I guess.
$512/ mo + tax. $0 due at signing. Meh. It's for my dad and he is loving it. I thought about walking but dad would have been disappointed to have to wait. He's in his 80's.
This was the only reserve model without extra packages in black and tan in all of SoCal.
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55% residual
$1000 lease cash
Either trim
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Lease cash
FWD $1500
AWD $2500
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
36,39 or 48 if applicable
10,12 and 15K miless annually
Any loyalty or conquest incentives?
You'll have to check with a dealer about loyalty
36/15
1.45% APR
52% residual
39/15
1.70% APR
49% residual
48/15
1.92% APR
45% residual
$1000 lease cash
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36/10 and 39/10k
MF
RV
33901
incentives
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36,39,48 months
10,12 miles annually
54% residual
1.70% APR
51% residual
$1000 lease cash
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1.20% APR
54% residual
39/12
1.45% APR
51% residual
48/12
1.50% APR
47% residual
Reserve: $2500 lease cash
Standard: $2000 lease cash
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1.20% APR
52% residual
$2500 lease cash
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39/12 and 48/12
Thanks
1.50% APR and 47%
$2500 lease cash
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1.45% APR and 51%
1.50% APR and 47%
$1500 lease cash
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36/10, 36/12
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1.20% APR
54% residual
$2500 lease cash
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thanks
54% residual
$1500 lease cash
Either trim
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MF, RV, and any incentives with
12k miles and 36months in 19096.
Thanks as always!
53% residual
$1500 lease cash
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55% residual
$1000 lease cash
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