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Here ya go. I agree that the new RS6 interior is gorgeous, certainly far better than the old one's.
In the Jag I think the gray/tan combo is more interesting than the pure tan, and probably the best interior option in the XK, though the black with that light yellow wood also looks very good. I normally hate that color in cars, but Jag pulled it off nicely with the black leather. Mine looks just like this:
This is way too big to post, but here's an example of the black/yellow which would be my second choice in the XK I think.
http://phxcars.com/photos/January2008022025PMDSC01119.JPG
http://phxcars.com/photos/January2008022023PMDSC01100.JPG
Source: Autoblog
If that's the case I'll take the 911 Turbo in Meter Grey please...
Although based on the picture the colour of your dash looks far more blue than gray.
As I said I think black on black looks good only on BMWs. A black on black Audi or Lexus or Jag would not look very tempting IMO.
That would be a shame. Without strong irreverance Top Gear would not be as famous as it is today.
That Audi interior is just fab. Love the XK, but not a fan of the blue-ish interior. Or the lighter colored wood. Not just in the Jag, but all cars (e.g. Lexus SC430, Caddy XLR, Audi... Or the truly, imho, horrendous light colored plood in the TL. My father had that. Yech... YMMV). Dark Burl Walnut for me!
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Definitely a car owned by a Autospies forum member.
LOL! :P
I actually realized that after I posted it. It's just the strange picture quality; I have sat in that interior in real life, and it's beautiful. Nice car.
'08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
To me, that looks more like blue/beige than gray/beige, but either way it's beautiful.
I have a black/white interior color combo myself in the S4. It has white seats, white door inserts, black dash and black piping on the seats. Very classy, and dangerously hard to keep clean.
'08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
Black on black BMW? I hope so!! But I truly must add these... here's why...
When I think of a limousine, I think the black on black is the best, but a limo doesn't really count here. So... then what does count is a long wheelbase car. Add to that the aggresive nature of a high performance car. And that means I think black on black is great on a Lincoln Town Car, Jaguar XJL, Vanden Plas, & Portfolio, Mercedes S-Class, All Mercedes AMG models,
Ford Mustang, Chevrolet Corvette, Chrysler 300 (exception on the WB), Lexus LS460L & LS600hL, BMW 750Li & 760Li (almost all BMWs, verts excluded), Porsche 911 (coupe only) ,
Audi A8L & Audi R8.
TagMan
While no fan of Lexus, I am a fan of things that run well, are decently priced and have good customer service support. Enter the Lexus 460. Apparently, a new 460 is under 70K. Not only is it good looking and lacking in the MB "Ruling Class" baggage that I don't need, it is also dependable and 20 K less than an S550. The way I look at the world, 20K of post W2 money is the same as 30K of W2 money. Lexus should be able to sell as many of these as they want and maybe MB is entirely to blame.
I think that may have something to do with the white balance/flash of whoever took those photos. It really is gray/tan. Personally I'm not a big fan of black on black BMWs, they look too dark and cave-like for me. I don't like BMW interiors in general, but if I were to get one it would be with tan or brown leather. Lexus with black leather works, Jag and Mercedes not so much, again IMO.
Same here. What's ironic is that you rarely see grey leather sofas, chairs and furniture. However a light gray beachouse with white trim against sand and water is classic IMO.
Now that is a very conflicted statement! If you haven't done so already I would suggest that you thoroughly test drive the LS to see if you actually like it or not. If you do like it you will be in good company with no need to apologize!
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
I had initially ordered white with beige interior, so you can bet I had some major similar concerns... until I actually sat in a black/black 335i coupe. There was absolutely nothing cave-like or gloomy about it at all!! Surprisingly, it was totally fine. So now, having discovered that, of course I think the combination is terrific! Here's some black/black 135i pics, and it looks like the window tinting has been done on this one.
BTW, I must thank Dewey and others here for the positive feedback on this color combination for the BMW 135i. I was just told that my car has now been officially scheduled for production. ETA is about 6 weeks +/- from today.
Houdini, it's too late for me to change the color!
TagMan
Congratulations Tag, I'm sure you are going to love it.
The amazing thing is that shortly after that six weeks you'll actually have it. You should really enjoy it!
Whats up with the AWD only being available on the 460 long wheelbase hybrid? I rarely see an S Class north of the G W Bridge that isn't a Fourmatic.
Almost 95,000 readers of the German specialist journal “auto motor und sport” voted the open Carrera into first place among a field of 49 other cabriolets, roadsters and spiders.
Thus the Porsche 911Carrera has continued a unique tradition. In the magazine’s series of 32 readers’ prize awards since 1977, the Porsche 911 and its model variants Turbo and 911 Cabriolet have gained a total of 37 overall victories. On the occasions when it did not quite make it to the summit, the Porsche 911 occupied second place, mostly just behind other Porsche models such as the 959 or the Carrera GT.
With the title of “Best Automobile in the World“, following its winning of the “Autozeitung” Auto Trophy in November in the categories “Best Sports Automobile” and “Best Cabriolet over 30,000 Euro”, the Porsche 911 has gained the most important publicly-voted awards of German speaking specialist journals for the autumn / winter season 2007/2008.
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TagMan
Great car, great colours and great timing(you're among the first to own such a car here in North America). This is definitely one of the most important introductions for BMW since it may signal a change towards smaller, lighter, more nible, sporty fuel efficient cars.
An environmentally conscious concept alongside the world debut of the M3 convertible will show BMW's commitment to both green and performance technologies at the 2008 Geneva Auto Show in early March.
The concept car is being touted as one of BMW's Efficient Dynamics concepts. While details are scarce, the company has previously used the Efficient Dynamics name for concept versions of the X3 and X6 with hybrid powertrains.
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The S550 is really great, it performs very well and has great design features, my reason for not getting it is that it just seems a bit too much for what I want. I actually prefer a bit lower profile than the S gives you, again many others may disagree. If you are serious about one of those, the large dealer west of Boston had a slow month and was really dealing hard yesterday to move these cars, you can get a good deal.
Let me know what you think, I am a few weeks away from turning in my current sedan as the lease is expiring, maybe you can tow me to work with your truck
I agree one hundred percent. . Many sport cars other than the Carerra have hyper aggressive steroid looks-- looks that attracts a lot of adolescents ( boys and adults alike). While a Porsche Carerra just looks classy and understated. A Carerra is a real adult sports car for people who know that appearances is all fluff and that there is more to a sports car than mean and evil Batmobile looks.
Lexus January 08 Sales 20,299 -8.2 percent.
The clock is ticking and very soon BMW will not only be the number one luxury car brand in the world but also in the USA.
It's about time I tell you.
Hmmmm, hmmmm,
apparently Lexus is not selling as many LS models as they want to. The MB sales gap between the S Class and the Lexus LS model is beginning to narrow.
January 08 Sales Results
Lexus LS 460/600h L 1,906 3,006 -36.6%
MB S-CLASS 1,641 2,078 -21.0%
Published: February 1 2008 09:11 | Last updated: February 1 2008 09:11
Financial Times
In an age of rapid player turnover and in-your-face merchandising, comedian Jerry Seinfeld memorably likened supporting a favourite sports team to little more than “cheering for laundry”.
Having a bit of skin in the game can change all that. Private sports syndicates, in which investors can hold stakes representing as little as a leg of a greyhound, are one way of doing this. Now Randy Newsom, a minor league baseball player with big dreams, hopes to bring the concept to the masses. Mr Newsom’s plan – yet to be cleared by baseball officials – would involve an initial public offering of himself, raising $50,000 to help him break into the big time. In return, investors would receive 4 per cent of post-tax earnings from any major league contract he might eventually sign.
Say you could buy a share today and Mr Newsom, a 25 year old pitcher, signed a three-year contract in 2009, paying $400,000 annually. He might double that in 2012 and, very optimistically, grow it to $3m per annum by 2015, holding it there for another few years. Discount the resulting cashflow at a private equity-like rate of 25 per cent, to reflect the risks involved, and in net present value terms you could roughly double your outlay.
Against that, one man’s right arm is about as undiversified – and finite – as an investment gets. Investors might lose everything if Mr Newsom simply never impressed the talent scouts or injured himself. And while he hopes the venture might one day include other baseball hopefuls, liquidity would be virtually nil.
Regular investors, therefore, should give this a wide berth. Still, there would probably be no shortage of at least one class of buyer. One share in Mr Newsom’s future would cost about the same as a cheap ticket for a major-league game – not a huge price to pay for those guys on the bleachers swilling beer and munching hot-dogs to feel part of the team.
The aluminum definitely helps quite a bit. It's really those black on black 5s with the black wood that I can't stand, only Batman should drive something that dark.
Germans love the Porsche 911. I'm stunned.
Well, 95,000 voters judging 50 different cars... That ain't chicken feed. And, I am quite sure that Americans and Canadians love the 911 also, as does the entire world... not just Germans. :surprise:
Can you think of a more suitable winner? I certainly can't!
TagMan
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Oh, c'mon now LG... There are plenty of BMW owners that enjoy their 5er's conservative interior in black, without thinking they've got to pick up Robin on their way to work. It's not THAT dark inside, and the layout is so freakin' conservative.
Now, the GT-R's interior, OTOH, is custom-made for the caped crusader, and you seemed to like it... although I see some aluminum trim and I guess Batman can't use it. Is aluminum to Batman kind of like what Kryptonite is to Superman? :confuse:
Your "cave" and "Batman" description of what is actually a quite popular and standard mainstream color is not typical of you. It reminds me of some folks I have met that respond in an overly-negative manner to cloudy weather, and actually find themselves depressed. I have also read about people like that, and they need lots of sunshine, and their emotional state is much more balanced when they are in a bright environment.
My Jag Vanden Plas has a light interior, and I agree that it does feel nice and upbeat, while the Porsche (and GTI) interior is black, and it feels a little more like serious driving, which I guess I like in a driver's car. Of course, they also have the aluminum trim instead of the dark wood trim, so I guess Batman wouldn't be interested. :P
(LG... I hope you know I'm just having a little fun with ya'
TagMan
My hunch (& it's just that - a hunch) is that Lexus will make AWD available on the non-hybrid LS in the not-too-distant future - probably beginning with the LWB model.
Tag, I think you are getting might defensive on the black-on-black thing. Sounds like you and Dewey love it and LG and I don't, FWIW I was very glad to leave grey England for sunny Texas long ago and now find that I miss the rain. Go figure. :confuse:
More exciting- I am 75% sure I saw a 1-series today in a metallic light blue. I wasn't sure that they were actually available yet so kind of refused to believe my own eyes. If they are not available then I have no idea what I saw.
I think you will be very pleased Tag, it was lower than I expected and wider and looked very 'athletic'. It did not give a sense of being a little car in any way and certainly was eye-catching just by its stance.
If the 1's aren't available yet then I have no idea what I saw...
If the 1's aren't available yet then I have no idea what I saw...
They're out there. I saw one last weekend in a silver/gold..... very nice.
I don't mean to sound defensive. I was just poking a little fun with LG on his "Batman" analogy, and thought I made it clear enough that I was just goofing. My apologies.
I will be the first to admit that I like sunny days myself, and I thank God for the abundance of sunny days here in California and in Hawaii.
Like you guys, I also love light interiors, and I absolutely love the light interior in my Jaguar. It's gorgeous, IMO.
I guess I am fortunate to like both a light interior and a black interior, as I have enjoyed both, and even own both.
When it comes to serious driving, I think a darker interior is more suggestive of the business of driving, kind of like that GT-R, or like my Porsche black interior, which I just love. The interior in the Jag is very light and upbeat, which is good for such a large environment, but OTOH, the black can also really work in a large car and have that upscale "limo" feel to it, I suppose.
I guess I can find a good application for both light and dark interiors... but if I had to pick an interior that I really dislike it would be a gray interior... nothing could be more dreary, boring, or even sickening than a gray interior... IMO, of course.
So... it really boils down to personal preference, doesn't it? There is no right or wrong when it comes to interior colors... unless... the wood is too orange or yellow, or the interior clashes with the exterior, or of course, unless the interior is gray. :P Right, LG?
(sorry... couldn't resist.)
BTW, there is NO light blue 1-series color available, according to the BMW website. Montego Blue Metallic is the lightest blue offered, and it's not all that light. So it was either Montego, or another similar-looking car altogether. :confuse:
TagMan
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
What do you mean? You like both a lot, as I do?
TM
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
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It was the Montego blue, I think that the actual color is 'brighter' than it appears on the website. Great looking car.
The interior thing is getting quite a life of its own.
On the subject of grey interiors, I agree, other than the Puffy Daddy white interior of that Audi previously posted, I haven't seen one that I particularly liked.
This is especially unfortunate since my current car has grey leather with dark grey and black interior. Perhaps that is why I am so averse to the idea of dark interiors and am quite sure I will never 'go grey' again.
Now, the GT-R's interior, OTOH, is custom-made for the caped crusader, and you seemed to like it... although I see some aluminum trim and I guess Batman can't use it. Is aluminum to Batman kind of like what Kryptonite is to Superman?
All in good fun, yes. I have a huge amount of respect for the GT-R, and I like the interior for the kind of car that it is, a state-of-the-art corner carver. The 5 series though is a sporty luxury sedan. Black on black with black trim just looks depressing, rather than driver oriented. This is the kind of thing I'm talking about:
<img src="http://www.carspace.com/lexusguy/Albums/lexusguy's Album/CosyVehicleImage.jpg/photo/v./photo.jpg" border="0" height="242"
And to be perfecly honest, I realize that I have posted how nice black on black looks... but... the bottom line is that I am gambling slightly, as I have never owned a black/black combination vehicle before. I could end up not liking it I suppose... although I really think it's going to be very nice.
As you know, I'm not afraid to change my mind on colors or cars... so if I don't like it, you will all know about it... and if I absolutely hate it, I should have little problem selling it quickly.
TagMan
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...Be sure to keep it that clean, though.
'08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
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Well, not really. The R8 is incredible and is probably the overall better vehicle, but the 911, with all of its rich history and continued success, deserves the title over it.
'08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
Lexus is always trying to be everything to everyone, so adding AWD to the standard LS is a no-brainer.
Wow, has Audi changed the luxury car scene or what?
'08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
Good 5 Interior:
Bad 5 Interior:
While black and dark wood looks elegant on most cars, it's inherently boring when applied to the BMW 5 Series. However, I love that M5 interior above. It's what I would order on my own M5.
'08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
The tan leather definitely makes the 5 a lot more livable, though it's still one of my least favorite interiors in the class. Better than the STS and the RL, but that's about it.
Here's the interior of the 1988 M6 that I ran in the early 90s:
FWIW, I actually liked the gray interior... :P And it was driver focused to the extent that the passenger almost feels left out- note how the center stack is canted toward the driver. After twenty years, the only thing I'd want to change is the steering wheel; those early airbag wheels were really ugly and bulky.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
There was a great line that Clarkson had about interior designers from the '70s and '80s. "Why can't I make the steering wheel square? I've made everything else square!"
The R8 is one of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen. One day, I could be mighty tempted if they announce a diesel spyder edition, which I guess is just a matter of time... although, in the case of the R8, it may very well be better looking as a coupe. As I've posted before, the Audi R8 is so spectacular, IMO, it could easily have been designed by God himself.
It's certainly more than the Car of The Year... it easily could be the Car of The Decade... and still more.
TagMan