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LOL. At least I have a picnic blanket in the car! It is the more important piece of the equipment.
Regards,
Jose
It looks like the Batman car to me.
Regards,
Jose
On a different scale, I took delivery of a new vehicle last week & was very pleased. Low expectation was certainly part of it.
Sometimes in life there are moments to just take a step back, before moving forward. Those can be important moments. I needed to do that today.
I do readily admit that I have high expectations of this car, otherwise, I wouldn't even be purchasing it.
It is definately true that overly-high expectations can be a prescription for dissapointment!
I am glad you are pleased with you new car. You have every reason to be!
TM
1000-miles? with some Skiing?
Again I say "lucky dog" to you.
TM
I'm just not all that hot on the look. I think Aucra is right to offer a V8, although the timing could be late to the party.
TM
All the best,
Jose
I am not sure about the different time zones between California and Spain, but I do not wish to hold you up on your beautiful trip. I can not go to the dealership any earlier than 10:30 am tomorrow morning Pacific Time Zone (Pacific Daylight Time).
I estimate that it will easily take up to a few hours to finish there.
I promise that I will post when it is possible. I will use my mobile to do so.
But, PLEASE go have a great and safe trip!!
Even if I have to keep you in suspense!!
TM
The spot on the left side ends saying "German character, French Spirit".
(I find it is very bad to give so much credit to your commercial enemies :surprise: .)
The spot on the right side says "New C5: get yourself distinguished".
(Stiff and posh, French style, IMO. :confuse: )
Anyhow, any of you has the opportunity to vote for the C5 spot to be cast in Spain! :shades:
http://acw1.citroen.com/c5_lanzamiento/default.htm
Regards,
Jose
Citroen lovers, enjoy the car view!
I hope Hyundai doesn't start making tanks!!!!!!!
Regards,
OW
As far as that M3, just give it a :P
Regards,
OW
I'd say that the best WWII tank overall was the German Panther, which was designed specifically to counter the T-34 & which bears more than a passing resemblance to the T-34.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22031
"IMO" being the kicker. I think most car guys will staunchly disagree with that statement. Have you never heard an Aston-Martin V8 Vantage, Ferrari F355/360/430, Ford Mustang Boss 302, Shelby Cobra 427, Audi RS4 (or pretty much any car equipped with the VW 4.1L V8), Mercedes AMGs, and I could go on for a loooong time listing cars with the sweetest sounding V8s. Nothing has the bark and aural pleasure as sweet as a finely tuned V8; not the little V or I sixes, definitely not any 4 cylinder, not the V10s or the V12s. However, the V16s do sound as sweet, but what's 16 divided by 2? :P
Don't get me wrong, there are some nice sounding 6s out there. A Toyota Supra Turbo with the right exhaust kit sounds wonderful, but it ain't no V8. For years I've struggled to understand the fascination with BMW's I6. To me, it's not even close to as smooth as you guys claim (and no smoother than a good V6), and it doesn't sound particularly good at all. I know I'm in the minority here with that, but hey...
Does that mean if your younger brother went out and got a HOT wife/girlfriend, you'd have to resolve to get an ugly one?
But you have to remember that I have the Audi 4.2. These days I wish the S4 was a bit more aggressively tuned. It's too refined.
'08 BMW X5 • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
As expected, and being one of the many Bimmer owners that participate here, you knew I'd disagree with that assessment.
For years, people have often wondered HOW BMW could make such good engines out of the most simplistic design. I-6's are easier to build than V-6's, but most manufacturers don't build them. There is no particular reason available as to why that is so. But when it come to BMW, very, very, few(if any) have ever been able to come close to what they can produce.
I've driven the best of them. Honda's supposed class-leading V-6(owned quite a few). Toyota's impressive V-8's(owned a LS). The Americans brawny V-8s(own those by the boatload) And you named some exotics. There is no car than can reproduce the wail of a Ferrari V8, rightfully so. They deserve that respect. But we are talking everyday rides.
No car that competes in the classes that BMW offers the I-6 TT combines the turbine-smoothness with an equally impressive soundtrack to go with. Not the raspy and not pleasingly-vocal IS and G, not even my fav A4.
But there was one car that has a 6-cyl that was omitted off of the list: Porsche 911. Talk about a car that sounds as good as it drives.
But to your credit, this is all purely subjective. So we all have our own thoughts.
'08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
With two Audi's in your garage, how could anyone hate you??/ :P
How prophetic. And you don't even grasp the message in your own words.
When the FWD craze hit, mostly to reduce cost, I6's pretty much went away because they're too long to fit sideways into most engine compartments. RWD allows their use, which is yet another good thing about driving the "proper" set of wheels.
From my perspectve, there are various #-of-cylinder/exhaust configurations that provide a pleasureable and exciting aural quality. It's the whole combination, and even valve function plays a role.
Then there are the different moments when a configuration sounds best. In other words, some combinations sound more exciting at upper screaming RPMs, while others emit that sweet note in second gear under full acceleration at mid-upper RPMs, for example.
But, there's no doubt that for many of us, the sound qualities can make a very big difference.
TM
That's funny.
TM
Well, they should be used to it by now. They got laughed at when they offered up the current RL at $50K. I feel bad for the folks that paid that much (and in some cases at the launch, more) for that car.:(
Enjoy the show! Hope to hear your impressions. (And maybe see some nice pics.)
TM
The V8 in the R8 is very pleasing, it just gives a hint at what is about to happen.
A customer is having a custom Milltech exhaust put on his R8 as we speak, I can't wait to hear that beast fire up!!!!!
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Regards,
OW
Nope! Much love, esf!
My ZO6(V8) has the most horrible pushrod-tap ruckus of any of my modern cars.
But I love it no less.
TM
A BMW sounds good from outside (when it's idle) but so-so from inside.
Lexus? You can't hear a Lexus...
No, seriously, the IS350 actually sounds pretty good at high RPM. At low RPM it sounds more like a turbine engine instead of a gasoline inject, almost jet-like in some perspective.
TM
Incredible performance achievement from Nissan, IMO. And, as I posted in the past, The GT-R looks somuch better in person than any pic I've ever seen.
TM
Ur welcome, if you enjoyed that won here is another..Enjoy.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=6594
Jose, thank you... go have a wonderful trip... We'll share experiences when you return.
I'm also going on vacation for 10 days starting Saturday, but I'll be mobile-connected. But no BMW for those 10 days!
Have fun!
TM
When it comes to BMW's engines, a LOT! :surprise: Both the M5 and 550i sound horrendous on a cold startup. The first time I heard them startup, I (and my then girlfriend) asked, "How long has this thing been sitting?? What the heck is wrong with it?" The salesman looks at my girlfriend deadly serious and in a condescending manner tells her, "That's the sound of HP." I looked him right in the face and said, "You're out of your mind! This thing sounds like CRAP! A car isn't supposed to sound like that when it starts."
For those of you that haven't had the displeasure of hearing a new M5 or 550i cold start, imagine, if you will, an old Geo Metro with, like, 300,000 miles on it and about 2 quarts low on oil! :surprise: :P It makes me want to look back for blue or white smoke every time. Now, if the engine is already warm, it sounds "fine." I'd still prefer more bark, though. The VW 4.1L V8 or an E550? Now there's some sweet engine notes! (in this class)
I agree with you, blkhemi, the Corvette doesn't sound all that nice, either. Although, when that Z06 is wailing out at 7K RPM!!! Good gawd!
And I say that with relief as well as happiness!
I have not heard the M5 at cold start, but on the road it does have nice menacing sound.
You're right, that's the one I was thinking of. The T-38 was a little amphibious snorkel tank armed with a machine gun. While the last Panthers and Tigers were better than the T-34, Russia was building so many that it just didn't matter.
But u still boght the car
I don't leave until early Saturday, but I'll stay connected with my mobile.
I must thank all of you for putting up with my months of confusion as well as excitement about this car.
I'm not sure I should post a review as there as just so many out there. Also, I won't really be able to spend much time with the car until I get back from Easter/Spring break. That's a Bimmer Bummer. (very bad joke... I promise never again)
Anyway, if you have any specific questions, however, please feel free to ask.
Most sincere thanks again to all...
(I promise better pics when I finally buy a camera, maybe late Spring.)
TagMan
Anyway, best of luck and happy/safe motoring with your first Bimmer.
Nice ride !
I have to ask.
'08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
Worth the wait!
I, too, will be away, starting tomorrow night... going to Argentina! Very excited! It will basically be a scenery trip--Buenos Aires for half the time, and a small town in the mountains for the other half. I'll be back next weekend.
'08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
Congrats!
And I must say, quite a nice home. It looks so warm.
'08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet