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  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    I just don't understand why you are eyeballing an XLR. It's a JAG you need, my friend. An XK, or XKR makes much more sense, don't you think?

    Anyway, I sincerely hope you enjoy whatever car you get, but I'm puzzled by you on this one.

    TM
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    OAC,

    Yes, I had an FJ Cruiser for a while. Actually for about half a year or so, last year. The vehicle is a mixed bag. Some definate pros, but mostly cons are plentiful. I believe that is the only Toyota product I've ever owned.

    From the driver's seat... Very nice driving machine with visibility issues. From the passenger's seat... it's terrible. And, the kids kept getting car sick back there. Rear passengers can become claustrophobic. Cargo is awesome. You can practically hose the vehicle out to clean it. VERY utilitarian. 15 -17 mpg, no way to improve it... a bit dissapointing for a V6.

    Overall, I am glad it's gone and would NEVER recommend an FJ to anyone when there are so much better vehicles to be had.

    If you need specific answers to anything about it, please don't hesitate to ask.

    TM
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Member Posts: 1,491
    I remember seeing one in january, the guy in it was driving slowly when the front left mirror suddenly fell off, he stopped and just looked at the mirror (jaw almost literally hit the floor).... I guess that was the 1st sign for me from the car god :)

    Me buying Japanese, and you buying German... I guess we are more open-minded than some would have thought!!!

    Some people actually consider you closed minded??? wow I guess they havent read your older posts then.... and forgive me for not congratulating you on your vacation, I'm just too jealous :P

    Test drove an A8 the other day, and found myself not really needing the extra space. I love the ultra luxurious cabin, but the size is just too big. Might consider an A6 instead... I just hope the cabin is just as good. I tried cross shopping it with the 530i, but the minimal price difference of $1200 for comparable units leads me to get the A6. Sure the beemer got edgier handling, but the A6 is good enough a handler for me.
    I find it funny that sooo many people complain about how ugly the current 5series look and how they wont buy one because of the style and the i(diot)-drive, but at the same time so many people drive them it became a dime in the dozen....hypocrites or just me-toos????
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    Yes, the old posts are an enlightening experience... But they go back to a pre-LL forum, and many of the original posters are gone. Nuff said, but I was indeed less willing to consider anything from Toyota. To this day, however, I still dislike Lexus vehicles, except for the IS. I find them to be "lacking a soul"... LOL!

    Anyway, OAC understands what I meant about him driving German cars, and me including Japanese vehicles in my garage.

    TM
  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    Again, are the Car Gods trying to tell me something? Isn't GM quality Job 1? Or is GM quality an oxymoron...

    I think Job 1 at GM right now is staying in business for another year. I remember Blkhemi saying that GM is just in a rough spot, like 2005. I don't think so, bub. GM was still leasing cars in 2005. They are in big trouble.

    I just watched Clarkson's 2006 DVD "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" DVD again, where he travels to California to check out American cars. He tested the XLR-V, and hated pretty much everything about it, from the engine noise, to the understeer, to the woeful interior. "In Europe, we wouldn't use plastics like these in our hatchbacks".
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    Please post this in the "Can GM make Cadillac the luxury standard of the world again?" forum. The GM'ers are die hard. I used to be one but died in 2003.

    Junk is junk be it from US, Japan or Germany. Period.

    Dada, don't do it on the XLR. It's a customized Corvette at best. I wager the 'vette is better bolted up anyway.

    GM is one flew over the CountryWide nest! ;)

    Regards,
    OW
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    Junk is what it is. I was being more reserved with my choice of words, and I am very glad to see you call it for what it is... a freakin' heap of junk!

    I sure hope laurasdada doesn't waste $35K, or any money at all, on an XLR... especially when there are better choices out there, like the Jag XK or XKR that I mentioned.

    TM
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    This baby has 14,475 miles, 2006. $50K

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    Regards,
    OW
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    I don't know laurasdada's color preference, but that's more like what I am suggesting.

    Heck, even a CPO 3-series convertible could be a consideration. In fact, even the Porsches have softened in price a bit recently, and a good used Porsche could also be a smarter possibility.

    I was suggesting the Jag because I believe, based upon his previous posts, that laurasdada likes Jags.

    TM
  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    This baby has 14,475 miles, 2006. $50K

    $50K is way too much to spend on one of the old ones, for that you might as well stretch a bit farther and get an '07. An '03 or "04 XKR at around $30K is a much better buy.

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  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    Sounds good to me. I believe he didn't want black but it sure looks fine to me!

    Regards,
    OW
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    Looks like we're finding laurasdada his next car... LOL.

    LG, you're probably the one that knows the XK market the best. What color does he want?

    TM
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,209
    Thanks, faithful readers. I've mentioned before that the XLR thing is irrational. Like smoking cigarettes (which I never have. Parents were heavy smokers, unfortunately it has contributed to various health issues...), which is a terrible, filthy, useless, disgusting, dangerous habit yet some people still do it! Just like GM products! Just kidding...?

    I'm 99 44/100% sure that there will be no XLR in my future. Still may test drive, just to be sure. See if it is as bad as LG and Clarkson claim. I'm still not even sure I'm a convertible kinda guy. The XK still kills me softly with its song, moreso the '07+ version. Right now, I'll take mine in Pearl Gray, thank you.

    To be honest, the Audi A/S5, to this eye, ranks right up there stylistically with the XK. For a lot less scratch. But, the Jag does harken to my youth. Still have strong memories of rides in my Dad's friend XKE convertible. All those lovely toggle/rocker swithces!

    Black is a great color, the 14.3% of the time it is reasonably clean. I hand wash my car (when New England weather allows) weekly and y'all already know I'm a Zainophile. My Abyss Blue TL, when shiny makes me happy. When dirty... :cry: I'd be a total basket case with a black car...

    Logic and rationality shall rule my day as it always has. Which does kinda make Jack a dull boy...

    Maybe a Bricklin?

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • 2001gs4302001gs430 Member Posts: 767
    So many posts since I last came here, but this one stuck out the most. I saw a white 1 coupe on the weekend. I have to say it is a cute looking car.
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    At your service..I thought this was an interesting pose for 2 of your choices. That is an S5?

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    Regards,
    OW
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    I have to say it is a cute looking car.

    No wonder so far all the 1er on the street that I saw (less than 5) have female drivers...
  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    To be honest, the Audi A/S5, to this eye, ranks right up there stylistically with the XK. For a lot less scratch.

    The A5 is indeed a great looking coupe. It makes you wonder why M-B even bothered with the new C-coupe, its a joke compared to the Audi.
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    Must be something about your neighborhood then... LOL.

    World's largest 1-series website is loaded with hundreds and hundreds of members and the vehicle's member ownership is over 90% male. But, the ladies do indeed love the car, and often the driver just by association. It's all too fickle, but true.

    My bet is that the Lexus IS has more female drivers than the BMW 1-Series, especially the IS250, but the IS350 as well. Don't you think, Lou? After all, you raised the whole point.

    TM
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    Cigarettes killed my mom several years ago.

    Stay away from 'em... and stay away from the XLR.

    Get yourself the Jag or Audi that you love. Apply Zaino weekly, of course. ;)

    TM
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    My bet is that the Lexus IS has more female drivers than the BMW 1-Series

    Of course, since there are way more IS out there than the 1er...

    If you meant for percentage I still agree with you. After all, ladies love the Lexus IS, what can I say...

    World's largest 1-series website you said? You should go check out the world's largest Lexus website (Club Lexus), 99% of the IS owners there are male...
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    Of course, since there are way more IS out there than the 1er...


    Not for long....!

    June IS Sales = 4,324
    June 1-Series Sales = 6,101


    Regards,
    OW
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    I don't think that number is right...

    http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2008/07/01/091641.html

    June '08 1-series sales = 1,715

    http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289685

    May '08 1-series sales = 1,765

    I believe the number you quoted is the YTD figure.

    Got a bit excited there aren't we... :P
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    The older Jaguar--ones with the toggles, back in the fifties I think---were dream makers...A wonderful sounding streight eight...I saw a restored one last year, cream and red interior, and I swear I almost baught it on the spot....I just don`t have a garage :( Although I don`t think so poorly of the Cadillac--I just wouldn`t purchase it ...I`m afraid GM just did me wrong one time too many...As for you, Go with your Heart.....Tony
  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    World's largest 1-series website you said? You should go check out the world's largest Lexus website (Club Lexus), 99% of the IS owners there are male...

    I think that says a lot more about Club Lexus than the IS :)
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    Lou,
    You know by now that I don't care who likes or doesn't like the cars I drive. I'm the only one that needs to like 'em. The only exception is the family SUV. The wife and kids matter more on that one.

    So, whatever the sales numbers and gender preference, I still love the 135i. I just can't believe that car. 300+ HP as well as 300+ lbs. of torque, and BMW sport suspension. Incredible handling and tons of fun for four. The convertible has more rear headroom than the coupe and legroom is better than most reviewers have stated. Our family of four fits plenty comfy for short trips. Fun factor is enormous and gas mileage is reasonably good. All in all, it's awesome.

    In fact, Lou, my Porsche is for sale, and my sales rep called me with a buyer. When I get back from vacation, I'll detail it and then make it available to show.

    To me, my favorite car is not about price. It's about fun and performance and style. The 135i convertible has 'em all, in a combination that hits the spot in a small package, which I prefer. I don't want a big cruiser. BTW, if the gas mileage were better in the M3 RHT, I might have bought one of them instead. Also, the 1-series website isn't a BMW website, it's strictly for the 1er. Club Lexus isn't dedicated to the IS exclusively, although it's a fine website.

    If you enjoy driving your IS as much as I enjoy driving my 135i convertible, then you are one happy guy! ;)

    I still keep wondering what the wife will want... ?????

    TM
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    Did I bring up the sales number? No...

    Did I bring up which one has more female drivers? No... I was just merely reporting what I see because someone mentioned that the 1er is "cute".

    Did I bring the IS into the conversation? No...

    'Nuff said. ;)

    As for Club Lexus, it has nothing to do with Lexus, strictly a separate entity. As matter of fact Club Lexus is banned from using the Lexus "L" logo to make decals because it doesn't "represent" Lexus. In Club Lexus the forum is divided up by models so each model has its own space. The IS-only forum is the one called my.IS but I believe there are way more IS owners who follow Club Lexus than my.IS.
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    Did you bring it up?

    You brought up female drivers. That's all I recall. But it's irrelevant who brought it up anyway. Unless, that is, we first need you to bring up a topic of discussion before we can talk about it!... LOL.

    I know that I don't bring up most items of discussion, but I sure don't make an announcement that I didn't bring it up. :confuse:

    I don't see your point here. Unless you are suggesting that I shouldn't have mentioned your IS. Is it off-limits? Afterall, someone else mentioned the 1-series was cute. Should I have complained or announced that I didn't bring it up?

    Who cares, man? Are you OK? ;)

    TM
  • blckislandguyblckislandguy Member Posts: 1,150
    Tagman, I'm surprised you would sell your Porsche for an I35i. I've always thought that a thoughtful guy would buy a 911, take care of it, and just grow old with it. Seriously. Whereas something like an I35i is something you'd date for a couple of months and move on.
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    2001gs430 (post 14325): "So many posts since I last came here, but this one stuck out the most. I saw a white 1 coupe on the weekend. I have to say it is a cute looking car."

    louiswei (post 14327): "No wonder so far all the 1er on the street that I saw (less than 5) have female drivers..."

    tagman (post 14329): "Must be something about your neighborhood then... LOL.

    World's largest 1-series website is loaded with hundreds and hundreds of members and the vehicle's member ownership is over 90% male. But, the ladies do indeed love the car, and often the driver just by association. It's all too fickle, but true.

    My bet is that the Lexus IS has more female drivers than the BMW 1-Series, especially the IS250, but the IS350 as well. Don't you think, Lou? After all, you raised the whole point."

    'Nuff said... I am done with this discussion.
  • blckislandguyblckislandguy Member Posts: 1,150
    Right on. There a lot of nice high-end cars out there that are just hitting their sweet spot price-wise. The former "owners" have moved on to their next lease payment and now the smart money can step in and scoop up some deals.

    The XK Jag is a good example. Good car, most have been driven relatively few miles, and a lousy resale makes for a potentially good deal. Sadly, the coupes which I think look better, are more practical in New England, and offer more secure public parking, are relatively hard to find. I suspect that the new Maser's that we see advertized all over the Weekend Edition of the WSJ will be a similar good deal in a couple of years.

    The Porsche 911 has (supposedly) the highest resale value of any car and few are leased. This suggests to me that there wouldn't be too many screaming deals on used 997s. Surprisingly, the Bentley Continental holds up very well resale wise. I saw and had a ride in a neighbor' s 2009 Continental GTC last night and it was a fantastic experience on a hot July night. Hopefully as soon as the hot money migrates to the GTC, used coupes will drop to well under 100K .
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,209
    Two gorgeous coupes against one less than lovely background!

    It does indeed appear to be an S5, which you must see in person to appreciate. Pix do not do it justice.

    Brilliant! Why choose, just buy both!

    But, OW, did you crop out the XLR? ;)

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,209
    Meet the new coupe. Same as the old coupe... Yeah, is it the CLC? Externally, it is the same dud from years gone by. Unless it's priced like a Civic coupe (and even then) who buys that over a 1, 3 or A5???

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    The Porsche 911 has (supposedly) the highest resale value of any car and few are leased. This suggests to me that there wouldn't be too many screaming deals on used 997s.

    Where'd you hear that? The 911 isn't even in ALG's top deprecation category, let alone "highest of any car". CR says the Prius is #1 right now.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,209
    Male/female 1 series drivers? Who cares! But, let me ask you this: doesn't a dropped top look better on a female driver?

    Umm, yeah. That's what I meant. The dropped top of the 1 'vert... Yeah, the car.

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    Unless it's priced like a Civic coupe (and even then) who buys that over a 1, 3 or A5???

    Or the G37. Heck, even the CTS coupe. All they did was graft the new nose onto the old C-class. The interior is the same as it was eight years ago. Who do they think they can fool with that?
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,209
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    No price yet...

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,209
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    Price holding steady at $599,000...

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,209
    That this '08 XK Coupe w/6266 miles and an asking price of $60k is a better deal than an '05 XLR with a loose fender at $35k?

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    Emerald Fire: anyone familiar with the color? Looks dark-ish...

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    I'm saying a good deal on an XK is smarter than almost any deal on an XLR. Yes.

    BTW, those cars are amazing. Thanks for posting them.

    TM
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    BIG,
    Yes, indeed, this is actually a good time to sell my Porsche. If I want another one in the future, I will get one, but I have changed my priorities and market conditions point to selling it now, particularly before the '09 becomes readily available, and certainly before the market for used Porsches softens too much. And, it will soften. Thank goodness that mine is a 997, a strong reseller.

    Low miles, and originally configured by Porsche especially for the SF auto show... it should sell easily, but I'm going to hold out for a decent price. The car is too perfect to let go too cheaply, and I'm not in an urgent situation that requires me to sell too quickly. I'll make a fair deal with someone. Whoever gets it will get a gem.

    I'm not suggesting that the 135i is in the same league as the Porsche. I am suggesting, however, that for a lot less money, a damned lot of fun can be had in the 135i convertible... Almost as much as the 911. So... I feel fine saying goodbye to the 911. I'll use all that money on something else, like a car for my wife and/or a car for my daughter next year. And Ther's going to be that future hybrid I intend to drive.

    I fully intend to not buy a gas hog ever again, and I look forward to driving a fuel-sipping hybrid from Honda... or even Toyota, if it doesn't look as horrible as the current Prius.

    TM
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    I apologize, Lou, cause I have absolutely no idea what you are posting about. I just don't get your point. :confuse:

    Must be too much sun and beer earlier today. ;)

    TM
  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    I'm not suggesting that the 135i is in the same league as the Porsche. I am suggesting, however, that for a lot less money, a damned lot of fun can be had in the 135i convertible...

    Speaking of the 135i convertible, Edmunds has just posted their full test.

    What Needs Work:
    Um, nothing.

    I'm not positive, but I don't think Edmunds has ever put "none" for needed improvements before.
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    Thanks, LG, for that link to Edmunds review of the 135i convertible.

    What a phenomenal write-up!

    It's been difficult for me to reveal the amazing character and nature of the 135i convertible without sounding like a biased owner. The car is so terrific that it is all too easy to be perceived as an infatuated owner.

    The 135i is indeed a true-life automotive marvel, and I can only pass this on to others. I feel extremely lucky to have one custom-configured to my preferences. I unequivocally love the 135i convertible for being one of the most enjoyable cars I've ever driven

    Anyway, LG, thanks again.

    TM
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    But, OW, did you crop out the XLR?


    Darned! You noticed! Get that thing out of your head!

    Regards,
    OW
  • 2001gs4302001gs430 Member Posts: 767
    I am not sure why this is seem to be an issue. When I say the 1 series is cute, I meant it in a good way :)
    I do see a lot of women driving the IS250 around here, cant say the same about the 1 since I only saw one so far and it was a guy behind the wheel...
    My (evil) wife also like my IS350, not so much for its styling, but mainly for the way it drives. She took the car for a spin a couple of months ago, and came back with a big smile on her face. She kept on saying what a mean machine it was...
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    I somehow did not realize you drive an IS350. It's the only Lexus I've actually really liked, although the original SC always caught my eye a little.

    I remember looking it over carefully at the auto show. I still haven't driven one, although it's on my list of car candidates for my daughter's first car next year. IMO, it's possibly too much car for her, but we'll see.

    BTW, do they have a tuner chip for the IS350?

    TM
  • 2001gs4302001gs430 Member Posts: 767
    Well, long story made short, I went to trade in my GS for a 328i to get a German car taste. After suffering Lexus withdrawing for a month driving the 3, I swapped it for the IS350, which I found that I actually got as close to be the-best-of-both-worlds as possible. Also, Lexus's willingness to lower the IS's price to gain back a customer helped a lot.

    I think Lou show me a website full of Lexus endorsed performance stuffs for most models. The IS350 is probably too much car for a young driver, This car is more powerful than my V8 powered GS with better gas mileage :D
    My other car is the true chick's vehicle as defined by you gentlemen here, the RX350.
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    That is interesting. I think the NA six cylinder in the 328i is nice, but not exciting. I can understand your decision. Often, us guys just need more HP... well, I know I do. It's really not that complicated.

    I really liked the IS when I looked it over, but the rear seat was too cramped for a vehicle of that size, IIRC. Still, not a deal killer. Perhaps the IS250 would make better sense for my daughter.

    TM
  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    Perhaps the IS250 would make better sense for my daughter.

    The IS250 would probably be a great choice, especially the AWD version. Same goes for the new A4 2.0T, which has a more usable back seat, as well as much better rear visibility thanks to Audi's signature tiny C-pillars.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    Has anyone looked at those July sales results?

    There are less Lexus LS cars(1466) sold than MB S Class (1577)cars in the USA. The first time this has happened in a long time.

    Also BMW sales has exceeded Lexus sales in USA. Ain't that refreshing.
    I had predicted this will happen years ago. Again as usual my prediction has been confirmed. ;)

    Anyways who was it that said sales volume is the true benchmark for a car's excellence? Well it certainly was not me that had said that :P
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