I haven't used my AC yet this year, heck, I have only used the car AC once. We haven't hit 75 yet this year - latest date for that mark in recorded history for this area. We're at about triple the average monthly rainfall so far, temperatures seem to be running about 10F below normal. Spring? Summer?
Same here in NH. I'm wearing long pajamas, have the blankets on and windows shut at night. It's in the 40's at night, and 60's (when cloudy) and 70's when sunny during the day.
So if there's global WARMING, I sure hope it gets here soon. It's too cold yearround if you ask me. Canada's a huge empty country, with all its population huddled around the southern border. There's quite a bit of the globe where no one wants to live because it is too cold. Let it warmup; plenty of "virgin" land that can be moved into.
Look for the RAWS site in your area. I would bet it shows higher temps than actual. Just a guess. We have not used our AC in the house this year yet. That is unusual. It has to stay above 90 for several days for our home to get over heated. Cooled off today from the high of 88 yesterday. Been very pleasant. I think we should keep driving them big ole trucks and SUVs to maintain this dandy weather.
Weather Underground also keeps track of earthquakes. We have had 956 tremors since the 5.7 earthquake on Monday night at 9:26 PM. That one shook the house pretty good. Wonder what the Feds plan to do about it. Maybe a Quake tax would be worth looking into.
"Global Warming" does not mean "HOT HOT HOT" at EVERY LOCALE on the planet, ALL THE TIME.
It very generally means "the overall heating of the planet's climate."
It does not mean there will not be below average seasons. It does not mean that there will not be rainy seasons. It does not mean that everyone, everywhere, can count on each year being warmer than the last.
Of course it is BOGUS...a CON....a FRAUD...SCHEME..... Wasn't it some gangster (Al Capone?) that said you can steal much more with a suit and a briefcase than you can with a gun??? (Or something to that effect). Why do you think the Climate Exchange is set up in Chicago for cryin out loud! Anything associated with the UN is a total hoax. It's a gang of thieves, tricksters, deceivers, and soceital grifters.
"Fraud is the ready minister of injustice" - Edmund Burke (1729-1797)
If in fact we are getting honest analysis of the GLOBAL Temps. If it is bogus at one station, how do you know that it is not bogus at many. I know you want to believe everyone is honest in the Federal Government. You need a reality check. Hardly anyone in the Federal Government is honest. Think MMS, part of the same interior department as NOAA and NWS etc. They have caused the biggest ecological disaster in our lifetime. What makes you think they are not all taking kick backs and having orgies on our money?
Gary says, "What makes you think they are not all taking kick backs and having orgies on our money? " (( If they are having orgies, more power to 'em I say - as a side note only ))
The Internet, that's what.
It's a LOT harder to hide schemes and scams these days.
If there were some "GLOBAL CONSPIRACY" to FAKE temperatures, we would know. Mostly, people like you Gary, would be saying, "HEY, WAIT, the NOAA said Cleveland had a high of 85 today but the local TV station said 81 !!!" People are out there watching for this sort of thing, Gary, don't think they are not. That would not be possible to fake.
And again, that arctic ice ain't "FAKE MELTING" it's really melting.
Once again though, WHERE IS ALL THE "MONEY" coming from that you think the NOAA et. al. are collecting? How does "Global Warming" make anyone rich, other than speeches, Nobel Prizes, and Carbon Credits, which as far as I know, no taxpayers are paying in the USA ??
Where is all this "revenue" being generated by, and PAID TO apparently, all the LIARS?
Yes, and the same could be said for "Global Cooling".
The global warmists are great about making statements that have no meaning so they will be hard to refute. It is like your local weatherman giving a forecast of clear to partly cloudy with a slight chance of rain. He can't miss.
Where is all this "revenue" being generated by, and PAID TO apparently, all the LIARS?
I hate to break it to you but it is coming right out of your pocket. (I assume you pay at least some taxes). It is called government grants and anyone who says they did a study that proves GW can get one.
Well, we should have known that you would be a big fan of the U.N.. The biggest crooks (food for oil, etc.) on the planet. Hopefully, at some point we will elect someone with a set and the U.N. will be history in the U.S.... and that means they will be history, period.
OK, so assume it works like that, and they are getting a Grant to do a study.
Why not? Don't you want to know MORE about the weather and the causes and the effects of man-made pollutants in the atmosphere? If your answer is NO, then you must think we know everything about the weather already?
And so their study is funded by taxes. That's not paying for Orgies or Boats or Kobe steak - it's paying the expenses and salaries of the members of the study team.
But who's getting RICH from that? No one, I would guess. We are paying for research. Which we have always done.
"HEY, WAIT, the NOAA said Cleveland had a high of 85 today but the local TV station said 81 !!!" People are out there watching for this sort of thing, Gary, don't think they are not. That would not be possible to fake.
How many people are aware of what NOAA is using to calculate GW? Just like your phony article that says Global Temps are 1.blah blah blah higher than ever before. Why would you believe them when all our Federal agencies have a history of lying to the American people? MMS is not the only agency that needs to be stirred up. My guess is every agency in the government could be turned upside down and find out where our money has gone. And it all comes from the tax payers if you were not aware of that. Every time they add another person to a department and move the guy on top to a higher paying position we pay for it. Our Government is a giant cancer and the little segment that is supposed to supply weather data is just as bad as any other Federal agency. All putting out the data the power in the Administration wants to hear.
It's a LOT harder to hide schemes and scams these days.
Yes first Tiger Woods, then John Edwards, and now Al Gore - all porven to be cheaters and liars . It'll be interesting to hear the details on Al's little tryst, as they come out in the next couple of weeks.. And then hopefully we'll get some more people coming forward, about other issues then his personal affairs.
Where is all this "revenue" being generated by, and PAID TO apparently, all the LIARS?
Well do some research on the lifestyle that people like Al Gore and John Edwards led. You don't buy multimillion $ properties, buy boats, ffly around the world, and keep several women, on what a congressman or even a VP makes!
MMGW is a wonderful cause that the elite (power) class is using to accumulate more wealth and power to themselves. pretty soon they'll be telling yopu when and how much you can run your HVAC system ... oh wait they already have legislated themselves that authority already!
pretty soon they'll be telling yopu when and how much you can run your HVAC system
They are already doing that here in So CA. They put this little box on you AC unit. When the load gets high they cut off your AC. Happened to an elderly friend last fall when we were visiting her. They seduce you into it with 10% savings on your electric bill. Next they will mandate it or tax you heavy if you do not fall in line. There is a good chance the government in CA will take over the utilities and look out then.
Top 10 donators to the UN budget, 2009[44] Member state Contribution (% of UN budget) United States 22.00% Japan 16.624% Germany 8.577% United Kingdom 6.642% France 6.301% Italy 5.079% Canada 2.977% Spain 2.968% China 2.667% Mexico 2.257% Other member states 23.908%
Not to mention the fact that the UN is the biggest pusher of the AGW scam using OUR tax dollars. The UN at the last GW conference tried to extort more money from US for them to hand out to poor countries. How much of that would make it out of the UN fat cat pockets. They are looking for another scam like the Iraq oil for food scam we shut down by killing Saddam.
The USA should tell the other members of the Security council that every member that wants a vote needs to kick in the same amount of money. Why does Russia even get a vote when they pay less than any of the top contributing members. Could it be that Putin is MUCH Smarter than our politicians? My guess he is head and shoulders above anyone in Washington DC.
Global Warming is the biggest SCAM ever ! It is the Elites and liberals who cannot create wealth in the REAL world by starting a business or company that produces a product that someone wants. It is allways the loons on the far left of the campus that need OUR TAX DOLLARS to survive. Now the guru of Global Flatulence Al Gore is involved in a homosexual affair ! European Socialism is what the Pelosi Obama and Reid are spreading. And it does not work in Europe.
Gary says, "MGW is a wonderful cause that the elite (power) class is using to accumulate more wealth and power to themselves.
That's all great and good and you LOVE to say that. but it's just smoke and mirrors until you prove that ANYONE is getting rich off "faking" Global Warming.
BTW Gary: How did they fake the ice melting and the glaciers shrinking? Did they hire David Copperfield?
Gary says, "pretty soon they'll be telling you when and how much you can run your HVAC system ... "
And if you think the public is going to allow THAT kind of silliness without a revolt, you have another think coming my man. It's fine to have LEGISLATION but putting that into practice in the real world is another problem altogether.
crvexl2008 says, "Global Warming is the biggest SCAM ever ! It is the Elites and liberals who cannot create wealth in the REAL world by starting a business or company that produces a product that someone wants."
That's all great and good. but it's just smoke and mirrors until you prove that ANYONE is getting rich off "faking" Global Warming.
BTW How did they fake the ice melting and the glaciers shrinking? Did they hire David Copperfield?
Aside from giving me credit for someone else's post I totally disagree with your belief in the people responsible for the AGW scam. From the UN to Al Gore there has been millions of dollars funneled into the AGW funds and programs. With little to show for it.
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And if you think the public is going to allow THAT kind of silliness without a revolt, you have another think coming my man.
They are already doing DLC (direct load control) and have been for over a year here in San Diego.
You can read all about here. It is incentivized at this time. You can bet it will be mandatory very soon, at least in CA to start with.
It's fine to have LEGISLATION but putting that into practice in the real world is another problem altogether.
You think so eh? How about taxes, upon taxes, upon taxes? Almost every new legislation is enacted to take more money from your pocket and put it in someone else's. You are fortunately in a state that has a modicum of common sense in the legislature and Governor's office. I would trade you in a minute. Must be why you believe there is honesty in government.
BTW Gary: How did they fake the ice melting and the glaciers shrinking?
It could be a good thing. It will save billions of barrels of fuel with a NW passage. Much shorter than using the Panama Canal from say Japan to NYC. Think of how much easier it will be to transport oil from the oil rich Arctic to the East Coast of the USA. If it actually happens it will be a good thing. There is lots of evidence to the contrary. It won't be this year. Notice how the agency spins the report to keep their funding rolling in. They know if they claim it is a cooling trend, Obama gonna take their funding and give it to one of his pet welfare programs.
Arctic Sea Ice Melting Season Posts Latest Start on Record April 06, 2010, 1:52 PM EDT
April 6 (Bloomberg) -- The extent of sea ice over the Arctic Ocean grew until the last day of March, the latest the annual melting season has begun in 31 years of satellite records, the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center said.
Cold weather and winds from the north over the Bering Sea and Barents Sea meant that the area of ocean covered by ice expanded through last month, the Boulder, Colorado-based center said today in a statement on its Web site. That’s two days later than in 1999, the previous latest start to a melting season since satellite monitoring began in 1979.
Scientists have highlighted declining Arctic sea ice as an indicator of global warming. The NSIDC has said the Arctic Ocean could be largely ice-free during the summer by 2030. While this year’s melting season has started late, it probably won’t have an impact on the extent of ice in the summer, the group said.
“The ice that formed late in the season is thin and will melt quickly when temperatures rise,” the NSIDC said.
I got no love for AlGore and his ilk - I have said that numerous times. Did you forget it, or what?
I just think it's "fashionable" in certain circles to talk about how the "elites" are "scamming" us about GW. And you are in that circle of people who think saying it is cool.
But the reality is, it's NOT faked, and it's NOT a scam, and NO ONE is getting rich off global warming lies, other than AlGore and some of his associates who get money from speeches and etc.
Bottom line: No one is getting rich off taxpayer money because of faked GW.
On the load control issue:
First, they cannot make it "mandatory" Gary. You know why? People will just buy window air units or roll-around units to get their cool on. And the utilities KNOW that.
Second, how long after a "mandate" would the protests begin, and a ballot initiative voted on to reverse the mandate? Not very.
A sales presentation for Social Justice designed to redistribute wealth and control your life, liberty and property.
Fear has been used throughout history to control and manipulate human behavior, especially by control freaks and would be tyrants.
The Earth has actually had multiple climates over the last four billion years and there is no present scientific evidence of man made global warming. One eruption of a Volcano creates more pollution then hundreds of years of human activity.
Eventually the market, (ingenuity of the human mind), will provide us with the technology to terraform other planets and create any atmosphere that we want here on Earth.
If you want to see a very relevent and funny video on the subject please view the comedian George Carlin on You Tube regarding the environment.
Let me explain just how they do make money off of you and I. In CA it is higher utility bills because they are NOT using the mandated level of alternative energy. And we know why. Because of blocking wind and solar by other Eco Nuts. Here is where the real money is being made.
Tuesday, January 29th, 2008 As I've been saying would happen, the world greenhouse gas credits market--driven by carbon--rose 80% last year. The rise in carbon market profit, of course, can be attributed to mandatory emission cuts in Kyoto countries as well as to companies in the US seeking to green their image in world where the emission of pollutants is increasingly taboo.
Trading carbon credits grew to be a $60 billion industry last year, up from just $33 billion in 2006. The volume of carbon traded grew to 2.7 billion metric tons, a 64% increase over the year before.
The carbon trade, established by the ratification of the Kyoto Protocol, allows companies that have cut their emissions to below required levels to sell carbon credits--each worth one metric ton of the gas--to other, slower-moving companies. This is also known as a cap-and-trade system.
Of course the exposure of the leaders in the AGW all being scam artists, has created a big decline in the CC scam. Just so you can see that AGW and Cap n Trade are linked here is an example:
German authorities raid 50 firms in carbon fraud crackdown
Offices of Deutsche Bank and RWE raided in investigation of €180m carbon fraud - both firms insist they are not the target of the probe James Murray, BusinessGreen, 29 Apr 2010
The pan-European crackdown on suspected fraud in the carbon market stepped up a notch yesterday when German authorities raided 230 offices and homes in connection with an alleged €180m tax fraud.
The Frankfurt Chief Prosecutor's Office said that 150 suspects at 50 companies were targeted in the raids that also saw the authorities freeze assets at a number of firms. Two of Germany's largest firms, financial giant Deutsche Bank and energy firm RWE, had offices raided in the sweep, although both firms said that they have not been prosecuted, were co-operating with the authorities, and were not the focus of the investigation.
So in dispute of your statement. Yes, lots of people are getting RICH off of the AGW scam. The sooner it is accepted for what it is, A GIANT SCAM, the better off we will be.
Gary says, "So in dispute of your statement. Yes, lots of people are getting RICH off of the AGW scam."
You missed my caveat:
Bottom line: No one is getting rich off taxpayer money because of faked GW.
From your linked story:
But for all its economic and ecologic advantages, the US has yet to implement such a scheme, opting instead to do next to nothing on a federal level.
And from your story, it's just a commodity market, like any other, it's just for carbon credits. Open to any investor who wants to get in.
YOU YOURSELF COULD GET RICH FROM IT. It's not limited to AlGore and his ilk. With so much money being tossed around in the carbon market, how is an individual investor to profit?
Unless you have the millions of dollars necessary to fund a carbon reduction project in Asia, you're probably looking for a less capital-intensive way to get into the carbon market.
One of the ways to do that is to invest directly in a company that reduces emissions as a primary part of their business.
A good play in this area is Tenneco Inc. (NYSE: TEN). Tenneco designs, manufactures and distributes automotive emission control products for worldwide use.
How is that a bad thing, if Joe Q. Public can get in on the money?
First off I would never invest in a company I don't believe in. Cap n Trade is risky as it is built on the AIR we exhale. You know the stuff all around us CO2. I am hoping it will all go away when we get some common sense back into the Federal Government. If it is not too late. Investing in companies that build emissions control devices is a different issue. Has nothing to do with the AGW scam. CO2 is not a pollutant. It is necessary for life on the planet.
And how much of our tax money going to the UN was diverted to the AGW scam? So hold onto your wallet and keep wanting US to address AGW.
The Obama administration has privately concluded that a cap and trade law would cost American taxpayers up to $200 billion a year, the equivalent of hiking personal income taxes by about 15 percent.
A previously unreleased analysis prepared by the U.S. Department of Treasury says the total in new taxes would be between $100 billion to $200 billion a year. At the upper end of the administration's estimate, the cost per American household would be an extra $1,761 a year.
At risk of being totally flamed I suggest those who don't think Global Warming/Climate Change is a total scam. Here's how they profit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O775uSQnr00
If one has an open mind, they will watch the series in its entirety. If not, we will know by evidence in future posts. In the sense of fair play and rational debate, I humbly challenge a repost to refute the facts presented.
I'm not chastizing anyone. I once was very naive and gullible. Not anymore. When I started looking around and doing research on the internet and read a couple of good books e.g. The Creature from Jekyll Island and others, my outlook changed. Power and control is seductive.
The incestuous nature and corruption of this administration is staggering Though other admins had their own schemes (Cheny and Big Oil etc.) and certainly were not saints, I contend this administration will make all previous ones pale in comparison.
Only time will tell. Let's hope sensability will return to DC starting with this Novembers election. Term limits and lobbyist donation ceilings will be a good start.
Anyone can put something on YouTube and make it look genuine and true.
Look at Michael Moore - he made a career of twisting things and making them look like they are true but in reality he just edited the way he wants to make his point.
I'll believe GW is a "scam" when someone explains how/why the SCAMMERS are making the arctic ice melt and the glaciers are shrink and all the other environmental issues which have arisen due to the unusual heating.
Bottom line: No one is getting rich off taxpayer money because of faked GW.
Well it may not be a direct tax from the government, but if the government passes regulations to corporations that raise the cost to produce something, then it's the same effect. So if companies ABC, DEF, and GHI make paper-products and all have to buy carbon credits, that adds to their costs, and they will pass that cost along to the consumer in the price of the products. Or the companies have to reduce profits, payroll and benefits, or move overseas. Either way carbon credits are an increased cost that are borne by the taxpaying consumers in 1 manner or another.
The billions to buy those carbon credits didn't come out of thin-air (CO2)!
A good play in this area is Tenneco Inc. (NYSE: TEN). Tenneco designs, manufactures and distributes automotive emission control products for worldwide use.
I think the author is confused. Emissions systems on autos do not reduce CO2; CO2 emissions is strictly a factor of mpg and whether a gallon of gasoline or diesel were burnt.
Yes you're correct anyone can put something on YT. But, "make it look genuine and true"? Excuse me? Nobody "made it" look anything other than what it IS. I'll go out on a limb and say you didn't watch it. I'll go further out on said limb, and conjecture that it's bc you don't want facts to conflict with your outlook. Larsb, the whole scheme is spelled out there. You said you want proof to see how people are getting rich. Yet you won't watch the presentation, ignoring the facts on the implementation of the scheme being set up right under our collective noses sigh....
And once again, you're missing the point The glaciers in fact might be melting and receding. It's not "faked" (if it's happening). It's been doing that since time immemorium. Before there was man, not to mention Industrial Man, who is currently being blamed for the C02 excess.. It's also possible that this is merely another example of "not letting a crisis go to waste.", though it's been in the works long b4 Emmanuel said that phrase.
Here's a personal challenge: why don't you email me and let me send you the cached page of "The other side of the Global Warming debate?" Digest it for about a week or two.
All one has to do is the proverbial "follow the (UN) money"...You get $$ for your "facts" if you publish the mantra... otherwise, you don't.
A sales presentation for Social Justice designed to redistribute wealth and control your life, liberty and property.
Fear has been used throughout history to control and manipulate human behavior, especially by control freaks and would be tyrants.
The Earth has actually had multiple climates over the last four billion years and there is no present scientific evidence of man made global warming. One eruption of a Volcano creates more pollution then hundreds of years of human activity.
Eventually the market, (ingenuity of the human mind), will provide us with the technology to terraform other planets and create any atmosphere that we want here on Earth.
If you want to see a very relevent and funny video on the subject please view the comedian George Carlin on You Tube regarding the environment.
1 Volcano can spew 30 trillion tons of matter into the atmosphere in one day. let me see...4 cyl or 6 cyl.....hmmmmm.
That all came about when Al Gore and his bunch declared that AGW is a done deal, and a consensus among scientists. Many of which did not appreciate being tossed onto the heap of scientists that are paid to push the UN AGW agenda. How anyone can call the AGW agenda anything but a money grab is beyond belief. It should have been clear from Copenhagen that is exactly what it is. The UN wanting to extort money from the rich countries and give it to the poor countries, with the UN grabbing a big chunk as the money flows through them. When many countries would not bow to the wishes the conference fell into Chaos and nothing was accomplished. We just wasted millions feeding our delegation caviar and putting them up in fancy hotels.
Anyone naive enough to believe the AGW agenda is not costing the US tax payer, needs a reality check. Just the basic expenses were over half a million dollars for the Copenhagen trip. Of course the $billions of tax dollars Hillary pledged is in there also.
...It is the Elites and liberals who cannot create wealth in the REAL world by starting a business or company that produces a product that someone wants. It is always the loons on the far left of the campus that need OUR TAX DOLLARS to survive. And it does not work in Europe.
Totally spot on! The admin (for sure) and Congress (well most of 'em anyway) never had to run a business; make a payroll; etc. etc. And they are in charge of our tax dollars!! YIKES... Now the flip side of the GW coin is exposed as a fiasco also: "Green Technology" e.g. Solar, wind, etc. etc. Look at what was previously held up as the model of all this: Spain. And they're not doing too well are they?:
I tell you, it's a total scam scam scam and the only way to right the ship is to have a total overhaul of the government @ the polls by electing sensible, Constitutional based folks and finding a way to control lobbying. And make DC get it all done in say, 4 months like Texas does, then send 'em all home. Why does DC have to operate year round??
What happened to the post by the new poster? He must have realized the error of his post and deleted it. I was going easy on the Alarmist until Gore gets a chance to recant on all his AGW lies. Now that we are finding out he is another Tiger Woods. I am expecting to see the real "Inconvenient Truth" coming out any day now. A bunch of little Gore babies.
I don't know about your area. We are having the nicest Spring and start of Summer in a long time. About 6-10 degrees below normal. Almost every day it gets to 80 and then cools to 60 over night. I have not even tested the AC this year. Hope it works if we ever get a warm spell.
As far as Al "Baby", I hope Tipper cleans him out of all his ill got gains. Leave him the boat to live on.
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So if there's global WARMING, I sure hope it gets here soon. It's too cold yearround if you ask me. Canada's a huge empty country, with all its population huddled around the southern border. There's quite a bit of the globe where no one wants to live because it is too cold. Let it warmup; plenty of "virgin" land that can be moved into.
Weather Underground also keeps track of earthquakes. We have had 956 tremors since the 5.7 earthquake on Monday night at 9:26 PM. That one shook the house pretty good. Wonder what the Feds plan to do about it. Maybe a Quake tax would be worth looking into.
"Global Warming" does not mean "HOT HOT HOT" at EVERY LOCALE on the planet, ALL THE TIME.
It very generally means "the overall heating of the planet's climate."
It does not mean there will not be below average seasons.
It does not mean that there will not be rainy seasons.
It does not mean that everyone, everywhere, can count on each year being warmer than the last.
"Fraud is the ready minister of injustice" - Edmund Burke (1729-1797)
OK, now we know enough about you from that statement to put your future posts into proper perspective.
Jeesh....
The Internet, that's what.
It's a LOT harder to hide schemes and scams these days.
If there were some "GLOBAL CONSPIRACY" to FAKE temperatures, we would know. Mostly, people like you Gary, would be saying, "HEY, WAIT, the NOAA said Cleveland had a high of 85 today but the local TV station said 81 !!!" People are out there watching for this sort of thing, Gary, don't think they are not. That would not be possible to fake.
And again, that arctic ice ain't "FAKE MELTING" it's really melting.
Once again though, WHERE IS ALL THE "MONEY" coming from that you think the NOAA et. al. are collecting? How does "Global Warming" make anyone rich, other than speeches, Nobel Prizes, and Carbon Credits, which as far as I know, no taxpayers are paying in the USA ??
Where is all this "revenue" being generated by, and PAID TO apparently, all the LIARS?
The global warmists are great about making statements that have no meaning so they will be hard to refute. It is like your local weatherman giving a forecast of clear to partly cloudy with a slight chance of rain. He can't miss.
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I hate to break it to you but it is coming right out of your pocket. (I assume you pay at least some taxes). It is called government grants and anyone who says they did a study that proves GW can get one.
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Why not? Don't you want to know MORE about the weather and the causes and the effects of man-made pollutants in the atmosphere? If your answer is NO, then you must think we know everything about the weather already?
And so their study is funded by taxes. That's not paying for Orgies or Boats or Kobe steak - it's paying the expenses and salaries of the members of the study team.
But who's getting RICH from that? No one, I would guess. We are paying for research. Which we have always done.
But what that one poster said is kinda off the path of reality, no?
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How many people are aware of what NOAA is using to calculate GW? Just like your phony article that says Global Temps are 1.blah blah blah higher than ever before. Why would you believe them when all our Federal agencies have a history of lying to the American people? MMS is not the only agency that needs to be stirred up. My guess is every agency in the government could be turned upside down and find out where our money has gone. And it all comes from the tax payers if you were not aware of that. Every time they add another person to a department and move the guy on top to a higher paying position we pay for it. Our Government is a giant cancer and the little segment that is supposed to supply weather data is just as bad as any other Federal agency. All putting out the data the power in the Administration wants to hear.
Look at Congress...
Yes first Tiger Woods, then John Edwards, and now Al Gore - all porven to be cheaters and liars . It'll be interesting to hear the details on Al's little tryst, as they come out in the next couple of weeks.. And then hopefully we'll get some more people coming forward, about other issues then his personal affairs.
Where is all this "revenue" being generated by, and PAID TO apparently, all the LIARS?
Well do some research on the lifestyle that people like Al Gore and John Edwards led. You don't buy multimillion $ properties, buy boats, ffly around the world, and keep several women, on what a congressman or even a VP makes!
MMGW is a wonderful cause that the elite (power) class is using to accumulate more wealth and power to themselves. pretty soon they'll be telling yopu when and how much you can run your HVAC system ... oh wait they already have legislated themselves that authority already!
They are already doing that here in So CA. They put this little box on you AC unit. When the load gets high they cut off your AC. Happened to an elderly friend last fall when we were visiting her. They seduce you into it with 10% savings on your electric bill. Next they will mandate it or tax you heavy if you do not fall in line. There is a good chance the government in CA will take over the utilities and look out then.
If anyone wants a copy of said cached page go to my profile and send me an email.
(% of UN budget)
United States 22.00%
Japan 16.624%
Germany 8.577%
United Kingdom 6.642%
France 6.301%
Italy 5.079%
Canada 2.977%
Spain 2.968%
China 2.667%
Mexico 2.257%
Other member states 23.908%
The USA should tell the other members of the Security council that every member that wants a vote needs to kick in the same amount of money. Why does Russia even get a vote when they pay less than any of the top contributing members. Could it be that Putin is MUCH Smarter than our politicians? My guess he is head and shoulders above anyone in Washington DC.
That's all great and good and you LOVE to say that. but it's just smoke and mirrors until you prove that ANYONE is getting rich off "faking" Global Warming.
BTW Gary: How did they fake the ice melting and the glaciers shrinking? Did they hire David Copperfield?
Gary says, "pretty soon they'll be telling you when and how much you can run your HVAC system ... "
And if you think the public is going to allow THAT kind of silliness without a revolt, you have another think coming my man. It's fine to have LEGISLATION but putting that into practice in the real world is another problem altogether.
That's all great and good. but it's just smoke and mirrors until you prove that ANYONE is getting rich off "faking" Global Warming.
BTW How did they fake the ice melting and the glaciers shrinking? Did they hire David Copperfield?
More misinformation on AC control by the Electric Utilities:
And if you think the public is going to allow THAT kind of silliness without a revolt, you have another think coming my man.
They are already doing DLC (direct load control) and have been for over a year here in San Diego.
You can read all about here. It is incentivized at this time. You can bet it will be mandatory very soon, at least in CA to start with.
http://www.energy.ca.gov/electricity_analysis/notices/2009-11-10_cpuc_workshop/p- resentations/KEMA-DLC_Comparison_Task.pdf
It's fine to have LEGISLATION but putting that into practice in the real world is another problem altogether.
You think so eh? How about taxes, upon taxes, upon taxes? Almost every new legislation is enacted to take more money from your pocket and put it in someone else's. You are fortunately in a state that has a modicum of common sense in the legislature and Governor's office. I would trade you in a minute. Must be why you believe there is honesty in government.
It could be a good thing. It will save billions of barrels of fuel with a NW passage. Much shorter than using the Panama Canal from say Japan to NYC. Think of how much easier it will be to transport oil from the oil rich Arctic to the East Coast of the USA. If it actually happens it will be a good thing. There is lots of evidence to the contrary. It won't be this year. Notice how the agency spins the report to keep their funding rolling in. They know if they claim it is a cooling trend, Obama gonna take their funding and give it to one of his pet welfare programs.
Arctic Sea Ice Melting Season Posts Latest Start on Record
April 06, 2010, 1:52 PM EDT
April 6 (Bloomberg) -- The extent of sea ice over the Arctic Ocean grew until the last day of March, the latest the annual melting season has begun in 31 years of satellite records, the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center said.
Cold weather and winds from the north over the Bering Sea and Barents Sea meant that the area of ocean covered by ice expanded through last month, the Boulder, Colorado-based center said today in a statement on its Web site. That’s two days later than in 1999, the previous latest start to a melting season since satellite monitoring began in 1979.
Scientists have highlighted declining Arctic sea ice as an indicator of global warming. The NSIDC has said the Arctic Ocean could be largely ice-free during the summer by 2030. While this year’s melting season has started late, it probably won’t have an impact on the extent of ice in the summer, the group said.
“The ice that formed late in the season is thin and will melt quickly when temperatures rise,” the NSIDC said.
I got no love for AlGore and his ilk - I have said that numerous times. Did you forget it, or what?
I just think it's "fashionable" in certain circles to talk about how the "elites" are "scamming" us about GW. And you are in that circle of people who think saying it is cool.
But the reality is, it's NOT faked, and it's NOT a scam, and NO ONE is getting rich off global warming lies, other than AlGore and some of his associates who get money from speeches and etc.
Bottom line: No one is getting rich off taxpayer money because of faked GW.
On the load control issue:
First, they cannot make it "mandatory" Gary. You know why? People will just buy window air units or roll-around units to get their cool on. And the utilities KNOW that.
Second, how long after a "mandate" would the protests begin, and a ballot initiative voted on to reverse the mandate? Not very.
Fear has been used throughout history to control and manipulate human behavior, especially by control freaks and would be tyrants.
The Earth has actually had multiple climates over the last four billion years and there is no present scientific evidence of man made global warming. One eruption of a Volcano creates more pollution then hundreds of years of human activity.
Eventually the market, (ingenuity of the human mind), will provide us with the technology to terraform other planets and create any atmosphere that we want here on Earth.
If you want to see a very relevent and funny video on the subject please view the comedian George Carlin on You Tube regarding the environment.
Let me explain just how they do make money off of you and I. In CA it is higher utility bills because they are NOT using the mandated level of alternative energy. And we know why. Because of blocking wind and solar by other Eco Nuts. Here is where the real money is being made.
Tuesday, January 29th, 2008
As I've been saying would happen, the world greenhouse gas credits market--driven by carbon--rose 80% last year. The rise in carbon market profit, of course, can be attributed to mandatory emission cuts in Kyoto countries as well as to companies in the US seeking to green their image in world where the emission of pollutants is increasingly taboo.
Trading carbon credits grew to be a $60 billion industry last year, up from just $33 billion in 2006. The volume of carbon traded grew to 2.7 billion metric tons, a 64% increase over the year before.
The carbon trade, established by the ratification of the Kyoto Protocol, allows companies that have cut their emissions to below required levels to sell carbon credits--each worth one metric ton of the gas--to other, slower-moving companies. This is also known as a cap-and-trade system.
http://www.greenchipstocks.com/articles/carbon-market-profit/204
Of course the exposure of the leaders in the AGW all being scam artists, has created a big decline in the CC scam. Just so you can see that AGW and Cap n Trade are linked here is an example:
German authorities raid 50 firms in carbon fraud crackdown
Offices of Deutsche Bank and RWE raided in investigation of €180m carbon fraud - both firms insist they are not the target of the probe
James Murray, BusinessGreen, 29 Apr 2010
The pan-European crackdown on suspected fraud in the carbon market stepped up a notch yesterday when German authorities raided 230 offices and homes in connection with an alleged €180m tax fraud.
The Frankfurt Chief Prosecutor's Office said that 150 suspects at 50 companies were targeted in the raids that also saw the authorities freeze assets at a number of firms. Two of Germany's largest firms, financial giant Deutsche Bank and energy firm RWE, had offices raided in the sweep, although both firms said that they have not been prosecuted, were co-operating with the authorities, and were not the focus of the investigation.
So in dispute of your statement. Yes, lots of people are getting RICH off of the AGW scam. The sooner it is accepted for what it is, A GIANT SCAM, the better off we will be.
You missed my caveat:
Bottom line: No one is getting rich off taxpayer money because of faked GW.
From your linked story:
But for all its economic and ecologic advantages, the US has yet to implement such a scheme, opting instead to do next to nothing on a federal level.
And from your story, it's just a commodity market, like any other, it's just for carbon credits. Open to any investor who wants to get in.
YOU YOURSELF COULD GET RICH FROM IT. It's not limited to AlGore and his ilk.
With so much money being tossed around in the carbon market, how is an individual investor to profit?
Unless you have the millions of dollars necessary to fund a carbon reduction project in Asia, you're probably looking for a less capital-intensive way to get into the carbon market.
One of the ways to do that is to invest directly in a company that reduces emissions as a primary part of their business.
A good play in this area is Tenneco Inc. (NYSE: TEN). Tenneco designs, manufactures and distributes automotive emission control products for worldwide use.
How is that a bad thing, if Joe Q. Public can get in on the money?
And how much of our tax money going to the UN was diverted to the AGW scam? So hold onto your wallet and keep wanting US to address AGW.
The Obama administration has privately concluded that a cap and trade law would cost American taxpayers up to $200 billion a year, the equivalent of hiking personal income taxes by about 15 percent.
A previously unreleased analysis prepared by the U.S. Department of Treasury says the total in new taxes would be between $100 billion to $200 billion a year. At the upper end of the administration's estimate, the cost per American household would be an extra $1,761 a year.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504383_162-5314040-504383.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O775uSQnr00
If one has an open mind, they will watch the series in its entirety. If not, we will know by evidence in future posts. In the sense of fair play and rational debate, I humbly challenge a repost to refute the facts presented.
I'm not chastizing anyone. I once was very naive and gullible. Not anymore.
When I started looking around and doing research on the internet and read a couple of good books e.g. The Creature from Jekyll Island and others, my outlook changed. Power and control is seductive.
The incestuous nature and corruption of this administration is staggering Though other admins had their own schemes (Cheny and Big Oil etc.) and certainly were not saints, I contend this administration will make all previous ones pale in comparison.
Only time will tell. Let's hope sensability will return to DC starting with this Novembers election. Term limits and lobbyist donation ceilings will be a good start.
Flame on.
Look at Michael Moore - he made a career of twisting things and making them look like they are true but in reality he just edited the way he wants to make his point.
I'll believe GW is a "scam" when someone explains how/why the SCAMMERS are making the arctic ice melt and the glaciers are shrink and all the other environmental issues which have arisen due to the unusual heating.
Bottom line: No one is getting rich off taxpayer money because of faked GW.
Well it may not be a direct tax from the government, but if the government passes regulations to corporations that raise the cost to produce something, then it's the same effect.
So if companies ABC, DEF, and GHI make paper-products and all have to buy carbon credits, that adds to their costs, and they will pass that cost along to the consumer in the price of the products. Or the companies have to reduce profits, payroll and benefits, or move overseas. Either way carbon credits are an increased cost that are borne by the taxpaying consumers in 1 manner or another.
The billions to buy those carbon credits didn't come out of thin-air (CO2)!
I think the author is confused. Emissions systems on autos do not reduce CO2; CO2 emissions is strictly a factor of mpg and whether a gallon of gasoline or diesel were burnt.
And once again, you're missing the point The glaciers in fact might be melting and receding. It's not "faked" (if it's happening). It's been doing that since time immemorium. Before there was man, not to mention Industrial Man, who is currently being blamed for the C02 excess.. It's also possible that this is merely another example of "not letting a crisis go to waste.", though it's been in the works long b4 Emmanuel said that phrase.
Here's a personal challenge: why don't you email me and let me send you the cached page of "The other side of the Global Warming debate?" Digest it for about a week or two.
All one has to do is the proverbial "follow the (UN) money"...You get $$ for your "facts" if you publish the mantra... otherwise, you don't.
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Fear has been used throughout history to control and manipulate human behavior, especially by control freaks and would be tyrants.
The Earth has actually had multiple climates over the last four billion years and there is no present scientific evidence of man made global warming. One eruption of a Volcano creates more pollution then hundreds of years of human activity.
Eventually the market, (ingenuity of the human mind), will provide us with the technology to terraform other planets and create any atmosphere that we want here on Earth.
If you want to see a very relevent and funny video on the subject please view the comedian George Carlin on You Tube regarding the environment.
1 Volcano can spew 30 trillion tons of matter into the atmosphere in one day. let me see...4 cyl or 6 cyl.....hmmmmm.
I saved mine to hard disk on 9/18/09 the last time the crawler visited it.
Damn good reading! (I'm definitely not finished for sure.)
It looks like it's back up Claires. Wonder what happened... :confuse:
It's re-bookmarked now thanks 2U!!
Anyone naive enough to believe the AGW agenda is not costing the US tax payer, needs a reality check. Just the basic expenses were over half a million dollars for the Copenhagen trip. Of course the $billions of tax dollars Hillary pledged is in there also.
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/CongressExpenditures.pdf?tag=contentMain;conte- ntBody
See all of the collectivist revolutions in the 20th century that were responsible for the torture and murder of over 200,000,000 people in peace time.
To create the workers paradise of course.
See waiting in line all day for a loaf of bread before they run out.
See the "Borg on Star Trek", You will be assimilated, resistance is futile.
What we are living through is the political manifestation of envy and philosophical rot.
So will you choose the red pill or the blue pill??? as per "The Matrix"
Will it be Liberty or Tyranny???
Totally spot on! The admin (for sure) and Congress (well most of 'em anyway) never had to run a business; make a payroll; etc. etc. And they are in charge of our tax dollars!! YIKES...
Now the flip side of the GW coin is exposed as a fiasco also: "Green Technology" e.g. Solar, wind, etc. etc. Look at what was previously held up as the model of all this: Spain. And they're not doing too well are they?:
http://ncwatch.typepad.com/media/2010/01/what-happened-to-spains-green-jobs.html- - - -
Hmmm....one gov't subsidized "green job" and you lose 2.5 regular sector economy jobs. Man that's sustainable isn't it!! Yippie!!
http://ncwatch.typepad.com/media/2009/03/green-stimulus-destroys-jobs-according-- - - - to-spanish-study-.html
I tell you, it's a total scam scam scam and the only way to right the ship is to have a total overhaul of the government @ the polls by electing sensible, Constitutional based folks and finding a way to control lobbying. And make DC get it all done in say, 4 months like Texas does, then send 'em all home. Why does DC have to operate year round??
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As far as Al "Baby", I hope Tipper cleans him out of all his ill got gains. Leave him the boat to live on.