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any suggestions?
Have you had the issues in the following TSBs, which apply to your 2006 EX-L Ody?
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A06-050.PDF
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A06-083.PDF
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A07-028.PDF
If so, you should get them done first and then report back if you are still having issues.
They don't know how to test the torque converter and they have said there would be a grinding noise if it was failing. The TSB does nto mention any type of grinding noise. Please share if you had success in getting this remedied.
I had all 4 wheels balanced during my visit with the dealer, but that didn't change a thing.
I would appreciate any suggestion. Tonton26, did you fix your problem, do you have any updates?
Thanks
I also know that warped rotors will create vibration during braking at any speed and you will feel that both in the steering wheel and in the braking pedal. That might be my case, but I feel vibration ONLY in the steering and ONLY at high speeds.
Dealer suggested to turn the rotors, but again they are new and I would like to check any other possibilities before that.
needless to say, the van does drive much better and vibration is not as bad. i think the van has the potential to drive better but i guess we will live with what we have for now. just worried that the new torqui e converter will go out again within 30,000 miles. the service department i work was extremely helpful but i think they may have their hands tied by honda with some of these issues.
Sunday the van was fine, just a little vibration at 73 so I figured it needed balance, when I used brakes it was smooth as silk. Now the brakes shimmy as if they need full replacement. They did offer me a limited service for $120 where they would lube and clean the calipers, I've only got 26K miles and told them I'd be back in October for the 30K service and not to bother. Back in March the van was perfect, April oil change they inspected brakes and I got the 73mph vibration afterwords. Minor irritation. Yesterday they also did the "software upgrade" for the transmission. I suspect that they didn't torque the wheels properly, but also wonder if the software update could have done something? Taking back to dealer tomorrow, they know I'm not happy. I've got another trip next week taking daughter to college and will not drive over 1000 miles with this problem.
My advice for owners of model year 05 and newer when your econ light comes on take note of any vibration. I hope this helps someone out there because like I said this was over a year and half time span plus a lot of money spent on trail and error. :mad:
I took it up to 80mph gradually, and the balance seems fine. BTW the ECO light comes on all the time, and I feel absolutely nothing different. Last month, up to St. Paul we got between 26-28 mpg at 75-80 with the air set at 68 so I know the eco is working (one week in northern Minnesota I averaged 31 mpg.) great. The only vibration I get now is when I brake from 75-60. It goes away below 60. I don't see how this could possibly be related to anything other than the rotors, but will keep an open mind because I didn't notice it until after the software update.
I'm just going to wait until I hit 30K and get all the brakes done at that time. Should be middle to end of Oct.
i see you are located in mn, i just had the torque converter replaced at walser honda in burnsville. the low speed judders are gone but vibration during acceleration from 60 to 65 is still there. i need to get an oil change so i figured they can also inspect the motor mounts.
the software upgrade actually made the vibrations worse and that was the reason why the converter was replaced.
i noticed the ex-l and touring had issues with engine mount, anyone with an ex have the same issue?? not
Sorry, I'm actually in the NW suburbs of Chicago, was up in MN several times this year starting in March. Daughter to start college in St. Paul next week. My dealer is Schaumburg Honda.
On an unhappier note, just yesterday and today, while gently accelerating from a stop the van judders between 2nd and 3rd gear. Not every time, rather rarely. That's totally new, and wonder if it could have been the software update that brought it about. I think it's up-shifting too early. The dealer is not going to be happy to see me again. Could they perhaps reset it to the original factory specs? It was working fine until after the software update.
Think perhaps I'll go ahead and take the kid up to St. Paul and call the dealer when I get back after Labor Day.
My initial intention was to buy a 2010 Odyssey EX-L (would be my 3rd) at end of October but after last years financial disaster I'll probably have to keep the 07 for another year.
My husband said that it was vibrating like crazy during the 10 minute trip home after the update. Will order a new torque converter - hope that helps. The van only has 29,000 miles on it.
Where can I find the TSB 07-28 .Could anybody provide a link?
Here's the link to the TSB for the judder issue:
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A09-053.PDF
called them saturday and got no argument from the service manager regarding replacing the torque converter. it is a rough ride all the way through 65mph
vehicle I think I have had. it is loud as hell on the hwy. I almost want to go
back to a big SUV for the smooth, quiet ride. comfort and quietness win over MPG.
I am happy to report that I took it to Honda yesterday, they applied the update, drove it themselves, found that it was worse, then called me to tell me they would replace the torque converter.
Interestingly, I have also been experiencing the same issue outlined in TSB 07-028 with the exhaust heat shield, however, my vin was not in the range. But they checked it out and indeed I did have the problem. They fixed that as well. Believe it or not they were going to charge me for it, saying that it was a "body item" and technically was not covered. However, they decided to "good will" it and didn't charge me.
I couldn't be more thrilled. The van drives like it is brand new now.
Fortunately when I bought the van it came with the Honda extended warranty. So everything was covered.
This turned out to be easier than I thought it would be. I thought I would be having to argue with Honda and show them posts from this forum.
Just my hypothesis... I personally suspect that it's a recall workaround. I suspect that until they actually "induce" the judder (via software update) they are unable to tell which Ody's have the bad transmission versus those that do not. By doing this they: (1) eliminate need for a full recall, (2) save mass hysteria of people thinking they have the bad transmission when they do not, and (3) ultimately identify and repair the bad transmissions. Just my thought.
Mine goes in tonight. :confuse:
So surprised, my heart was all in a flutter! (just like the transmission).
Unfortunately they don't have the part and it might be Friday before I get it back. And I did confirm that they must remove some of the front steering/suspension to do the job, and they will do a total alignment as part of the repair. I bought it new and have 29K miles, should all be under warranty. :surprise:
Here's hoping....
back next week.
As it is 2000 odyssey, have no warranties so it is expensive affair. The engine is good and the vehicle is in good condition with 120k mileage. Can you guys provide your suggestions about this, how much the torque converter cost and is it really worthwhile to invest time and money in this issue. I read in some posts that new tires will reduce vibrations for a while, but then they come back later. Are there any TSBs for 2000 honda odyssey LX for vibration issues, please reply. Thanks in advance for your responses.
My only complaint is that the mechanic apparently pushed the door open with his foot and left a large greasy smudge on the light gray (olive) door panel. It came off with some cinch.
Hondaody00, I think your vibration problem (high speed) is not the torque converter, but indeed a tire balance or tire quality issue. The torque converter problem usually occurs at slower speeds while accelerating. I'd recommend taking it over to Indy Tire and having them ck out your front tires. They'll probably do it for free, and they're prices might be better than the Honda dealer's if you need to replace a pair
The torque converter (at least mine) pronounced itself while accelerating gently or moderately, between 10 and 30 or sometimes 40mph as a juddering, that is, not a vibrating of the steering wheel but more like if you shifted a stick-shift car too soon and the whole vehicle shudders, but in the Odyssey it was less severe to the point that at first I thought it was ripples in the road. I drove this year 4 times between Chicago and St. Paul, twice after noticing the torque converter and at highway speeds up to and exceeding XXXmph (won't admit it in court, Wisconsin has a reputation to uphold). I did have a vibration earlier in the year at about 73mph but it was solved after having the tires re-balanced.
There was no engine/transmission/dummy light for the torque converter problem. I only felt it while accelerating, not at cruising, and it appeared mild at first, then more obvious over a period of about 2 months, but still only at lower speeds when the transmission wanted to shift gears.
By the way, did the service adviser take you over to the vehicle while it was up on the lift to show you the leaking struts?? I had a GMC dealer do that to me some years back on a Suburban, I actually watched the mechanic spray some lubricant up onto the rear shocks, then they told me the shocks were leaking and needed replacement. That's an old consumer fraud used for many years by mechanics who want to pad their booking hours. They're paid by how many jobs they can do in a day according to the "book", not how many hours they are actually there. Good Luck
I saw the leakage on the struts, but can not tell whether it is lubricant spray or a real problem. I don't hear any clunking sound while intense curvy turning as that is the standard sign for the bad struts, so kind of doubtful that is it a real problem? As of now, am going to replace the struts and then going to align the wheels and lets see what happens, hope don't need to work on another options. Let you know what happens.