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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Saw your similar post over on the Rendezvous board. You must be new around here - I think there are a few opinions floating around about this topic :-)

    (everyone, labrador4 is seeking opinions, not flames)

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  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    labrador4: you might want to check out: front rating: imagedriver and imagepassenger. Review: NHTSA frontal star rating. side rating: imagefront and imagerear. Review: NHTSA side star rating. my post #1630. my post #1705.

    I'm a little surprised at you Steve - why would you think we'd be anything other than objective and helpful?

    theiceman

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    lol, what--you think I'm a little gunshy around this board?

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  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    just a tad - not without reason of course.

    theiceman
  • labrador4labrador4 Member Posts: 5
    Just how CHEAP can a loaded GT AWD be gotten for in NJ this spring? I suspect the incentives will only get BETTER after the current $1000/financeing/free camping gear offer expires 4/30/01
  • SporinSporin Member Posts: 1,066
    I've leased my last 3 cars and will continue to lease them for years to come. My biggest issue is this... DO NOT put money down on a lease... never... ever... ever. It is like throwing it out the window.

    Leasing is long-term renting, with a set residual value after a certain number of years and miles. Would you give AVIS a hundred bucks to lower your daily rental fee on an airport Taurus? Of couse not... why would you put down money on something you're NOT BUYING? That $4k is liquid, it's equity you've earned, putting it into a lease is like giving it away.

    I always pay NOTHING down, no cap cost reduction at all, I pay my taxes out of pocket and I roll my security deposit and misc. fees into the payment (very small amount). If you need to pay $4k down to get a lease payment you are comfortable with then you should be looking at a cheaper car.

    Take that $4k and put it down on a new $20k car and you'll get payments of around $325/month depending on your interest rate. If you really want a lease so you can get out easy in 3 years then just suck up the higher monthly payments and put that $4k into your IRA.

    That's my advice. :-)
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    David, what were the last three cars that you leased?
    I agree, if a person is going to lease, by all means, don't give'm money on the front end. From what I have seen, leasing seems to work best if you can write off the car for business purposes.

    Mark
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    I like Consumer Reports lease vs. buy analysis published in April's auto review (page 22). Before you decide, you should consider the following: your annual mileage how much you can put down how long you'd like to keep the car the condition you normally keep your cars in the sort of abuse you subject your cars.
    I would add 2 more factors: the lease rate vs. financing rate and the potential depreciation.
    All other things being equally, if you suspect poor depreciation, then leasing is a good idea. But you should still compare the residual (usually 60% after 3 years) with what you expect the car will be worth in three years. If they're setting the residual high, then leasing is usually a good deal.

    theiceman
  • SporinSporin Member Posts: 1,066
    '96 Honda Civic DX Coupe
    '96 Mazda 626 DX
    '99 VW Passat GLS 1.8T (current)
  • lbthedoglbthedog Member Posts: 198
    Maybe I'm the odd one but I've never used a roof rack. If I didn't have room for something, I didn't take it with me. I do not think the roof rack is not a good styling touch. Pontiac would be better off if they used "channels" with openings to allow temporary rack attachments. Just my choice.
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    I've been driving for 23 years and, other than skiing, I have used a roof rack twice in all that time. When it comes to skis though, I roof rack is definitely the way to go - even if they would otherwise fit inside.

    theiceman
  • tonychrystonychrys Member Posts: 1,310
    What??? You guys never been to Home Depot before....
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    If it can't fit in my van, it gets delivered. I get nervous just thinking about driving behind somebody carrying a sheet of plywood lashed to the roof of their Subaru wagon. One decent updraft and we're either talking airborne transportation or a sudden separation of roof rack from vehicle. Nah, home delivery it is for me.

    theiceman
  • akajoeakajoe Member Posts: 69
    Spotted the second Aztek in Austin, TX. Driven by a soccer mom - seems to be an alternative to the minivan. First one was at Best Buy picking up grown up toys. It was that green color. There are some rebels out there, I guess.

    Actually, if it weren't for the rear hatch, this thing wouldn't evoke such strong (adverse) reactions. I wondered what other SUV has a similar sloping rear, and I remembered it is the BMW X5. It's rear doesn't start sloping down as early as the Aztek, and it stops closer to the belt line of the car (Aztek stops above the belt, and awkwardly drops down leaving an angle above the main horizontal design line, creating a corner that doesn't belong). In any event, even though the BMW X5 looks good, it doesn't conform to the conventional SUV styling due to it's rear hatch slope. It is a clear effort to differentiate from the rest of the pack and to justify it's price positioning. This type of mold-breaking can work if done right - the X5 is very popular. The Aztek seems to not be so popular because they over-did it.
  • gonzo7gonzo7 Member Posts: 259
    That last sentence summarizes the previous 1811 posts
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    Thanx for the news flash.
  • kevinnh1kevinnh1 Member Posts: 3
    This is a question for any other Aztek owners.

    Have you had any electrical problems with your Aztek? Yesterday, I started my 2001 black, AWD Aztek, and the dashboard seems to have shorted out. The fuel, speed, and RPM gages are not working along with the blue "high beam" light, start-up lights (like ABS brakes + air bags) and the computerized message system (ie "door ajar, low fuel," etc...) Everything else works - the red dashboard lights, the exterior + interior lights of the car, the radio. It is just the dashboard that is dead. I am taking it to the shop today to see what's wrong, but I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this problem. I bought this Aztek in New Hampshire, where I live, at the beginning of Feb. (There's a post somewhere back saying this.) The car has just over 2500 miles on it.
  • gmdronegmdrone Member Posts: 78
    Just a guess, but sounds like a disconnected/open ground for the i/p. I had one of those on an '86 6000STE, it turned out to be in the right rear wheelhouse. The wire at connector corroded and the wire separated, my first indication was a complete dimming of the cluster everytime I applied the brakes! Nowdays there are so many ground loops in these cars, I'd be willing to bet that is what your problem is!

    Regards,

    MAK
  • jmaterojmatero Member Posts: 253
    Hey Kevin, I'm sure it's something very simple. I had that happen on a Dodge once and it turns out the plug on the back of the IP was not inserted all the way. A few thousand miles of bumps finally knocked it out. Although, you claim the back-lighting is still working so maybe the IP just shorted out. Either way, I'm sure it's an easy fix and you'll be on your way quickly. Let us know what the problem was... that way, if this is turns out to be a "common" problem, fellow Aztek owners will know what the correct fix is. Good luck.

    On an unrelated topic.... did KissFan ever get back from FL? I wonder if he got that window fixed?
  • lspanglerlspangler Member Posts: 102
    There is an add in the detroit area for an Aztek lease of $0 down and $149 a month for GM employees, non-employees are something like $199.00 a month. I think these were P.E.P. vehicles. These were driven by GM management for 3,000 miles and are now available, they have 1,000 of them available!!! I see Aztek's everyday but they all have M plates on them.
  • juancho1juancho1 Member Posts: 42
    I went to MANNS welding in Seattle. They installed a custom Class 2 trailer hitch on my AWD for $295.
  • sunny2001sunny2001 Member Posts: 8
    ....but as I was driving to work this a.m., a smaller, but similar looking vehicle pulled up -> a Honda CRX. Is the Aztek a CRX on steroids? I also keep smelling "AMC Eagle"....Yikes!!!

    Be that as it may, I'm still interested in an Aztek purchase - but my wife wants me to get a PT Cruiser, which I like - but wouldn't work any magic when it comes to getting a good price.

    Any thoughts on what I might look to pay for a dealer demo GT (MSRP = 26,500) w/ 5000 miles on it....there are a few at a dealer nearby? I tried to compare on cars.com, but didn't find that to be a good means of gauging what I should pay. I'm thinkin' 18.
  • tonychrystonychrys Member Posts: 1,310
    I have an unpopular opinion of the PT Cruiser: I think it sucks. It's the latest fad and in a year no one is going to want to be caught dead in one because the "retro" look will be out.

    People who over pay for these things are just spending $$$ to get a bunch of curves in sheetmetal. Nothing special about the engine, performance, etc.

    JMO, YMMV.
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    You are right about the PT Cruiser in that it might lose some of it's "major" popularity ...but, it's a hot seller now and I believe it will be around quite a while. Look at the Miata, you can get much better prices now but that little car is in it's 11th year and still quite popular.

    It's the Aztek that is experiencing very early "wouldn't be caught dead" syndrome. The customers have made their vote. And the PT is a big winner along with the Bug.

    Mark
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    Don't have to look further than the VW Beatle to see a fad fade. Beatles are being offered with lots of low financing deals these days.
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    Now there's a fad that never faded. Yeah yeah yeah.

    Whereas the Beetle, PT Cruiser, Miata, BMW M Coupe etc. are likely doomed to be "cute" cars with marginal sales - more useful as short-haul commuters or short weekend cruises than as practical family vehicles for trips to the kids' hockey practice, to the Home Depot, or long highway trips to visit the in-laws (the PT Cruiser being the most practical of the lot). Of course, the buyers of these cars don't do this sort of stuff.

    theiceman
  • topgntopgn Member Posts: 132
    In a article on CNN, Pontiac stated that they are at 80% below their sales goal for the Aztek..!!

    WOW this means that they have only achieved 20% of their goal..In my office you would be fired if you only met 20% of your objective..!!
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    At GM, you'd be promoted. I better not comment on what would happen at my office.
  • jmaterojmatero Member Posts: 253
    These cars are "image cars"....originally designed to show-off the brand and get people in the showroom to buy other "mass-produced" models. In the case of the Beetle and the PT, the styling caught on and they are selling 1,000's of them. Sure, in a few years the PT sales will slow, but DC is looking at VW and using their strategy for keeping NewBeetle sales alive... new options and continuous upgrades each year. Since the 1998 model, the New Beetle has seen MANY upgrades including a Turbo model, sport suspension, wheel/tire upgrades, etc. The future looks brighter as well... with AWD, a 200+HP VR6 engine and more. The PT will also get upgrades... there is a High-output Supercharged engine coming next year and AWD is being tested as well. The Aztek, unfortunately, is an "anti-beetle" or "anti-pt" because GM planned on selling 1,000's but can't and the styling doesn't ATTRACT people to Pontiac, but steers them away from all accounts. The Pontiac Vibe will, I believe, prove to be Pontiac's saviour... Toyota Quality sold at Pontiac in a NICE looking package at a GOOD price.
  • kissfan1kissfan1 Member Posts: 283
    Back from Florida.

    Awesome vehicle.......period. This trip was awesome and the AZTEK performed flawlessly over
    3,000 miles.

    ; )........the Aztek smile
  • drzoom1drzoom1 Member Posts: 86
    Thanks for reposting old information regarding sales figures (refer to you identical post #1765 from 3/23).

    Kissfan...glad to hear you had a good trip.
  • robynrrobynr Member Posts: 22
    I just picked a Steel Blue 2001 GT up, problem with the OnStar system.. taking it to the dealer's this
    afternoon.

    I was talking with a friend who's wife bought one, and she had the dash computer chip fail. All
    sorts of random effects as you describe, even the horn going off until the battery was disconnected.

    Dealer replaced the chip under warranty.

    How many out there got the air inflator option? How well does it work? Is this a dealer installable
    option?

    Robyn
    SE MI
  • jmaterojmatero Member Posts: 253
    Man, all of these computers and chips in cars these days. My first car was given to me by my parents... a 1973 Ford LTD Country Squire Wagon... yup, with all that wood on the sides.... the only thing you needed was a screwdriver, some WD-40 and a coat-hanger to keep that puppy running.

    Well, at least the other person with the Aztek Dash problem doesn't have that Horn issue! Yikes!
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    Steel blue... is that the color of the Aztek on Dark Angel?
  • jmaterojmatero Member Posts: 253
    Hi all... for the owners of 2001 Pontiac Azteks...

    The NHTSA is starting to gather information for 2001 Model vehicles (Recalls, Defect investigations, owner complaints, etc.) and here is the current info on the Aztek:

    Technical Service Bulletins:
    #000849014
    Component - INTERIOR SYSTEMS:INSTRUMENT PANEL:MATERIAL AND PADDING
    Summary - SOME CUSTOMERS MAY COMMENT THAT THE TOP OF THE INSTRUMENT PANEL IS WARPED REARWARD OF THE DEFROSTER OUTLET

    #000864013
    STRUCTURE - TAILGATE ASSEMBLY
    Summary - SOME CUSTOMERS MAY COMMENT THAT THE REAR LIFT GATE WILL NOT COME OFF THE SECONDARY LATCH POSITION WHEN OPENED AUTOMATICALLY ON 2001 PONTIAC AZTEK MODEL VEHICLES.

    There are also 2 reports to the ODI (Office of Defects Investigation)

    ODI# 736680:
    Component - ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:IGNITION
    Summary - VEHICLE HAS LOST ALL POWER 5 TIMES SINCE PURCHASE. NEW BATTERY INSTALLED BY DEALER AFTER FIRST INCIDENT WHERE CAR DIED TWICE IN ONE DAY--ONCE UPON BACKING UP

    ODI# 883128:
    Component - SUSPENSION
    Summary - VEHICLE VIBRATES AT 65MPH AND HIGHER.

    As for official investigations, GM only has 1 for 2001 vehicles.... it is for the GMC/Chevy Yukon/Tahoe... Apparently fires are breaking out near the rear A/C controls/vents.
  • tonychrystonychrys Member Posts: 1,310
    "Apparently fires are breaking out near the rear A/C controls/vents. "

    That is not a defect, but the new mini-fireplace feature to give you that "cabin in the woods" feeling as you drive to the house on the lake.

    image
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    funny, funny.... I like that smiley face.

    Mark
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • topgntopgn Member Posts: 132
    Aztek has a few problems....???
    I thought it was the perfect Minivan..
  • lbthedoglbthedog Member Posts: 198
    Things have changed. No longer is it fix the car with a set of Craftsman tools. I don't follow the Aztek set of controls too closely but knowing GM philosophy, there should be a series of controllers or chip sets running the vehicle. One, the top dog, is the PCM or Powertrain Control Module. It runs the motor and transmission. There is the BCM, Body Control Module, there should also be a module running the ABS braking system. They all communicate to each other. Might be other modules or devices talking but PCM is king. The display or dashboard gets it's instructions from the BCM which gets it's data from the PCM. That's part of how the cluster can figure out oil life and mileage, that kind of stuff. Not having your vehicle in hand, it's difficult to tell why the cluster quit. Could be the display, could be the BCM, could be a connection not fully seated. Good techs at a reputable dealer can figure it out. GM isn't the only company doing this kind of stuff. For what the cluster is doing, this is far simpler than dedicated modules. Less wiring, better diagnostics.

    Adding the air compressor. Very difficult and would be somewhat costly. The air compressor is also working with the rear shocks for load leveling. If you just want an air pump, go to Pep boys for one of those ones that you plug into the cigarette lighter. Only 20 bucks or so.

    Good to see you back Kissfan. Hope you had a good time.

    Just for fun I did a search on the "doom and gloomers" that come to this board so often. They hate the Aztek so much, this is the only board they post on. Not that they have anything good to say about what they own, they just come here to add their positive comments. They must be great fun to be around. Wonder how many times the sky has fallen in their presence? Since I've started a rant, may as well go on. It's far easier to look for the bad in anything. Everybody and everything has a fault. But just as yesterday and the day before the sun came up and went down. Didn't change a thing. Some people go through their day and try to make things better. Some people don't. I'm really trying hard to get under the skin of the bashers here. Can't do it by insulting them. That's their game. Just like virtually everyone else, I've had the religious "messengers" knock on my door. That's their personal belief. I don't hold it against them. I let them talk. Is that the wrong thing to do? I can accept the fact that they have their philosophy. If they came back over and over again, then I would have to wonder about them. I wonder about some on this board some times. Am I that bad that I need to be "saved"? And what am I being saved from? And by who? Why? I have no problem with the Aztek mechanically. There's nothing wrong with it. It is quietly gaining a reputation as a very well built vehicle. No BS about that. Those who own or have driven them are enjoying them. I'm not making things up or deliberately leaving postings open ended to mislead people. That's dirty pool. But hey, some people get pleasure out of being "right". Maybe I'll go to other boards that don't concern me. Make things up. Insult people I've never met. Maybe I'll just stay here. I must still have some guts. How about some of you? Gonna stay guttless?
  • kissfan1kissfan1 Member Posts: 283
    Good post.

    While away I've made a resolution.......no arguing about the AZTEK with these individuals.

    The AZTEK delivers Toyota/Honda quality. The fit finish and reliability are proving this daily.

    Yes styling over the top and that affected commercial viability.

    But it is great quality vehicle......period.

    ;).......AZTEK smile

    any rebuttal from naysayers will be ignored.....save your breath
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    I've given up on people like topgn and gonzo also. Why bother responding to their never ending "clever" posts.

    Glad you had a good trip to Florida. How did you find the long highway distances in terms of comfort? Did you track mileage? A big concern for me if I'm looking at the Rendezvous is the gas consumption. Even down at 65 cents a liter.. fill ups are still painful.
  • bdreggorsbdreggors Member Posts: 143
    Good to hear about your great trip! Was wondering about how many Azteks you saw along the way (if you were keeping track). Also, did you stop by the GM Pavilion at the Test Track ride at EPCOT? Great ride, great store...:)
  • kissfan1kissfan1 Member Posts: 283
    Dindak....... Yes I did track MPG with onboard computer. I hit 23.7 MPG.

    The comfort was outstanding. We took 3 days going down. But coming back we left Orlando at 7:30 AM and drove straight through. I drove 21 straight hours....... I'll tell you......In terms of comfort it was outstanding and a blast to drive. I think that one of the reasons I drove straight was the fun of the vehicle.

    The seats were very very comfortable and I was pleased with the gas mileage. The mountains in Virginia were handled in 3rd gear very comfortable.

    While in Florida.....we met my wifes parents who flew in from Montreal. We criss - crossed the State with two adults and my 9 year old in the back seat. They all were very very comfortable.
    The cruise control worked great and the highbeams were great in the darkness of Virginia mountains.

    bdreggors: yeah we counted AZTEKS. It was our family game. Counted 93 AZTEKS. Tons in Orlando area. Alot of rentals. I took the time to talk to a few of the renters.......One story stands out:

    I pull into spot at EPCOT......right beside a yellow AZTEK. Popped out spoke to the guy while splashing on sun screen. He told me that he disliked the AZTEK but decided to try the rental.

    Well he said after a week with the vehicle.....living with it.......guess what he will be shopping for? You got it......AZTEK.

    We chatted right up to the gates of EPCOT. So the strategy of getting the vehicle into peoples hands thru rentals will win over new fans.

    ;).......your AZTEK smile
  • drzoom1drzoom1 Member Posts: 86
    ......Amen!

    We are close to buying our 'Tek this weekend. Prior to taking delivery, we'll be sure to check out the items that jmatero reported from NHTSA.

    For what its worth....while a lot of 'Teks are on the road in SE Michigan, I spent ~4 hours driving the highways of SW Michigan (US-31, 94, 131, & 196) today and saw 1.

    Also checked out three dealerships in the Kalamazoo area....saw 2,1 and 1 on the lots.
  • kissfan1kissfan1 Member Posts: 283
    The rear lock remains the single largest issue with the AZTEK. The impact is the following:

    1. You hit the rear hatch open button (on remote or keyless) and the hatch releases. You try to open the hatch with your hand but hatch does not open. Hit rear hatch button a second time a it opens.

    Brought it in.......got it fixed. Never happened again in 3000 mile journey to Florida.

    2. Vibration over 65.......Never felt it. During the trip my top speed late at night on open dry road was 95MPH. It was rock solid no vibration no noises.

    3. The loss of power issues......Isolated case that was fixed by new battery.

    4. The warping of the panel near the defroster........is a curious one. Looked at mine......no such thing.

    The FIRE that was refered to is a typical red herring tossed in to deliberately confuse those who don't read closely.........Has NOTHING to do with the AZTEK. But thrown in by naysayers to confuse (similar to the way the safety issues were manipulated)

    Still NOT ONE OFFICIAL RECALL.......... and mine is Purrrrr-fect!!

    DR ZOOM.......yours will be to. The MEXICAN plant is turning out great vehicles.

    All the best....... get ready to wear an ;).............AZTEK smile!!

    Was at my dealership........doing my post TRIP oil change. My dealership sold 8 AZTEKS in last 12 days!! NOT BAD!!

    ; ) ..........wearing the AZTEK smile
  • akajoeakajoe Member Posts: 69
    I'm curious - those who are considering buying an Aztek: are you also looking at the Rendezvous? Do you consider it a close comparison or not at all. Given the mechanical heritage of both cars and ones assumption that the Rendezvous will be as well made and good performing as the Aztek, it seems to me that the Rendezvous is more attractive to the mainstream public. What would make one not consider the Rendezvous if one was interested in an Aztek? Would it be price range, styling (conservative instead of bleeding edge), or features?

    I heard that Pontiac has idled the production line for Aztek in the Mexico plant to prepare for the 2002 redesign and to increase their production quota for Rendezvous. Given the sales statistics, I think this is wise. I sense the Rendezvous demand will exceed their initial planned production for 2001. Until Aztek sales catch up to inventory, I don't think they want to pump more precious capital into Aztek inventory.

    I was interested in getting a Rendezvous myself, but couldn't wait (car was totaled) and ended up going back to my original choice (Trailblazer/Envoy/Bravda). Bravada's came in first, so that's what I ended up getting. I'm still loving it.
  • kissfan1kissfan1 Member Posts: 283
    I believe that price will be a huge factor. The Rendezvous will definitely look more palatable to the mass market. Plus I've seen the new ad campaign......the Rendezvous is Tiger's NEW TOY.

    The vehicle has a Lexus type look. The front grille and rear shaping looks strikingly like the Lexus.

    If I was shopping.......I would drive a hard bargain on the 2001 in advance of the 2002 remodel. Or I would wait for the 2002.

    I do think the Rendezvous price might push me away. But lets wait and see.

    ;) .......wearing the AZTEK smile
  • drew_drew_ Member Posts: 3,382
    Glad that you enjoyed your trip!


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  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    Actually, their posts do add a bit of levity to this forum - contrary views are healthy and, without them (and Kissfan, of course), this forum would never be on Edmunds top 10 hot discussions list. Sure their posts get tired and I thought a little irresponsible on the safety thing and I admit that these posts were starting to bug me a few weeks ago.... I'm sorry, I think I forgot my point.

    theiceman
  • drzoom1drzoom1 Member Posts: 86
    Sounds like the hatch problem is "typical" and the other problems are rare. Regardless, they are all things you gotta check when you put $23k on the table!

    Has anybody else heard of the plant being idled?

    We checked out the Rendevous at the auto show and thought it looked sharp. To be honest, I like the 'Tek styling better. The back end modifications to the Rendevous helps it blend in with the other 100 SUV's on the market (boring). All agree, like it our hate it, the 'Tek does not blend in. I've heard $25k for a very well equiped Rendevous base model. But if you add on the extras, you are very quickly into to the 30s. Plus, no initial Rendevous incentives (compared to $1,700 'Tek incentives). The 'Tek we are looking at is very well equiped and we will be purchasing for around $23,000. I would not be surprised if the Rendevous turns out to be more reliable, I'm sure GM is likely tweaking the line process.

    Bottom line is the 'Tek is fun to drive, cool to look at, and has more gadgets than you can shake a stick at!
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