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2008 Nissan Rogue

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  • brett2007brett2007 Member Posts: 39
    One of the other vehicles I am considering is the Subaru Forester, and comparing the specs, it actually looks like the Forester has MORE cargo space (w/ the 2nd row seats down) and the same as the Rogue with them up.

    All forester numbers are with a mooroof,
    since that pretty much comes standard on a Forester
    Cargo specs on Rogue don't say if it w/ or w/o moonroof.

    Forester  Rogue
    (2.5x)


    Front Head room    39.1 in.  39.3 in.
    Front Leg room    43.6 in.  42.5 in.
    Front Hip room    51.6 in.  53.1 in.
    Front Shoulder room    53.5 in.  55.9 in.
    Rear Head room    37.0 in.  37.6 in.
    Rear Leg room    33.7 in.  35.3 in.
    Rear Hip room    51.6 in.  51.2 in.
    Rear Shoulder room    53.6 in.  53.6 in.

    Cargo Room (cu. ft.)    28.9  28.9
    Cargo Room    64.5  57.9
    (w/ 2nd row lowered)
  • mrgregmrgreg Member Posts: 2
    Oh ya, there's plenty of room for groceries. We have a stroller (5 month old baby). So with that, there would be room for about 1 tight row of groceries...In the CR-V or Mitsubishi Outlander, there would be room for the stroller + 2 rows of groceries.

    Since I'm in Canada, I convert the numbers from cubic feet to litres. The Rogue has about 818L of cargo space behind the 2nd seat. The CR-V has 1011L and the Outlander has 1104. That's a difference of about 7 and 11 cubic feet respectively.

    I should have taken a picture of the trunk with a stroller in it for comparative purposes!
  • mcq1mcq1 Member Posts: 103
    Gee whiz. My husband thought the cargo space of the CRV was small. If the Rogue has less cargo room behind the 2nd row I am in trouble meaning he is going to notice and tell me that the CRV is better because it has more room.
  • msdarkdivamsdarkdiva Member Posts: 13
    It’s true the Honda CR-V’s cargo has more cubic feet than the Rogue’s:

    ’07 CR-V's cargo volume: (cu. ft., seat up/down) 35.7 / 72.9.
    Rogue's cargo volume: (cu. ft., seat up/down) 28.9 / 57.9.

    On the other hand, I keep reading posts that say "this or that" on the Santa-Fe is larger than the Rogue… Well, “duh!” the Hyundai Santa-Fe is a larger vehicle overall, so everything will be bigger! As brucepower had mentioned it’s like comparing apples to oranges (or better yet- oranges to grapefruits). IMO, I don’t think you can make a fair comparison, in terms of size, between a “compact” Rogue and a “midsize” Santa-Fe!
  • brett2007brett2007 Member Posts: 39
    Yeah, the Hyundai Tucson is the vehicle in the same class-level as the Rogue, not the Santa Fe.

    Nice use of "duh" with Hyundai's new ad campaign. :)
  • hand1hand1 Member Posts: 19
    Brett, thanks for your information. Now the question I have for you should I trade in my 2005 Nissan Murano for the front-wheel driven Rogue; even though I would be getting better fuel economy.

    What say you?
  • brett2007brett2007 Member Posts: 39
    That's a tough call...

    If I had the money and the fuel economy was better, I'd love to drive an AWD Murano.

    My daily commute is mostly back roads and I live in New England, so to me Fuel Economy, AWD and safety are my most important factors. The Rogue has a lot of nice bells and whistles like the keyless ignition, so the gadget-geek in me really wants to go with the Nissan.

    My decision (to replace my '02 Liberty which is now averaging 15.8 mpg) will probably come down to price and fuel economy this time. My wife and I have a 4 month old daughter, so a decent amount of cargo room is necessary for stroller and whatever other things we need to lug around for the baby.

    I tend to keep cars for only about 4 years or so (that's usually when my Jeeps start giving out, so far Liberty is doing better, knock on wood). So I'm not terribly concerned with how much rear leg room there is in back seat has...kids have short legs. I just want to make sure there is enough room that my daughter won't be kicking the back of my seat, once she starts facing forwards. ;-)

    I'll make my final decision in September/October once I can finally take the Nissan for a test drive. The earlier comment regarding poor rear visibility on The Nissan Rogue was a little disturbing. :(

    Others under consideration:
    2008 Subaru Forester 2.5x
    2007 Honda CR-V EX-L
    2008 Ford Escape Hybrid (4WD)
  • mcq1mcq1 Member Posts: 103
    I test drove a Honda CR-V EX-L. I think it has plenty of room for one kid. You can put the stroller in the back. It rides real smooth. My only complain was rear visibility. It appeared limited due to the light pillars in the back.
    The leather on the armrests seem not practical to me.
    From what I heard in another forum the Rogue has limited cargo space but it drives real nice real sporty.
  • kimkaytkimkayt Member Posts: 15
    Your best bet is to find a Murano if you can; I love, love love my Murano in terms of size for a family and the only reason I'm going to get rid of it is because my son doesn't ride with me anymore (he's 17) and my overall lifestyle doesn't require such a large vehicle, the reason I am so interested in the Rogue. The Murano drives like a dream (like a car, not a truck) - it has sooo much room for families, the trunk is a great size for stollers, bags, etc. (except for groceries, they'll fall around) - otherwise, you won't find another same-sized car out there that is as comfortable, fun to drive, and safe - we did months of research and I gave up a BMW X5 to get the Murano - good luck!
  • brett2007brett2007 Member Posts: 39
    While a platinum Murano would be very nice, its out of my price range, unless I get just the bare bones S model, but even then its pushing the higher end of what I want to spend on my next car.

    Unfortunately with the 2008 adjusted MPG values being 17/23, I can't really justify it since my commute is mostly back roads and I'll probably be falling at the lower-end of those values.

    Maybe in 5 years when the little one is not as little (and possibly has a sibling), I'd consider a bigger vehicle, but for now I want something on the smaller side that gets good gas mileage. Who knows, maybe in 5 years there will either be a Hybrid Murano, or one that gets much better gas mileage and then I can trade up.
  • bigrobertbigrobert Member Posts: 15
    I finally make my mind about my new car.

    The Rogue is too expensive for what it has to offer.

    I just got a Mitsubishi Outlander XLS for 4000CAN$ less.

    I'm sure I can't put 4000$ more gas on it in 5 years...

    And I have a plenty of room in it.

    Outlander 2007

    I've take every thing except the nav package and 30g computer (too expensive at 4000CAN$)

    Worth a look and a test drive
  • xgbtxgbt Member Posts: 28
    Just wonder where's the $4000 saving ?

    The Outlander XLS AWD is $32,998.

    The Rogue SL AWD with all packages is $34,898.

    All are CAD pricing...
  • brett2007brett2007 Member Posts: 39
    The Outlander is a 2007 model, perhaps there are some special deals going on now?
  • bigrobertbigrobert Member Posts: 15
    Sorry,

    My mistake, it's about 3200$

    I should explain. All in canadian money

    Rogue:
    36398 - 11700 (CRV 2002) + GST + Québec PST = 28143

    Outlander
    34728 - 12500 (CRV 2002) + GST + Québec PST = 25328

    Mitsubishi offer 4,8% financing for 5 years vs Nissan offer 5,9%

    so, it will cost me 3393 for the loan vs 4375 for the Rogue

    then you got the 3200$ diff.

    I drive about 20000km to 25000km a year. So I can give 640$/year (3200$/5) to Exxon and their friend... Don't think I'll do...
  • msdarkdivamsdarkdiva Member Posts: 13
    Congratulations on your new Outlander!

    You’ll have to update us on your impressions after you’ve driven it your first week (give us some real world feedback on mileage, comfort/accessibility, the things you really like or don’ like about it compared to your old CR-V etc.)!

    Out of curiosity, (and I understand that this would vary according to a person's driving record), was there a big jump in your vehicle insurance between your 2002 Honda and the new Mitsubishi?
  • leseuldanielleseuldaniel Member Posts: 45
    Well said Bigrobert.

    Like I said a few posts back, the rogue is way overpriced in Canada, by at least 4000$ (plus, Mitsu is willing to deal, I doubt this will be the case for Nissan at least until december)

    I saw the rogue, and yes, it is a well put together car, nicer finish than outlander and nice, sporty look.

    BUT: very small inside, similar to Tucson, way smaller than Rav4, Outlander, with much less cargo room.

    Plus, having test driven the Outlander, I have a hard time believing the Rogue will compete as far as power and handling is concerned. As far as fuel economy is concerned, we'll have to see. Some car meet or exceed their estimated mileage, such as the Rav4 V6, other simply never seem to make it (such as most american vehicles in this class). We'll have to see where the Rogue stands on this point.
  • brett2007brett2007 Member Posts: 39
    Saw this link posted on another forum:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADWTcThLU4M

    From the video it looks as if the rear seats don't do down completely flat?

    Anyone who's seen it in person, is this the case?
    I find this one of the really annoying things with my current Liberty.
  • flightnurseflightnurse Member Posts: 2,217
    Very nice, yeah the back seats don't lay completely flat in it. But for the price, I think they have a great X-over.

    tony
  • charlieb53charlieb53 Member Posts: 25
    When do they make it to the showrooms?
  • flightnurseflightnurse Member Posts: 2,217
    This Fall in the US, and what does that mean, who knows. So far all of the "new" models, Versa, Sentra, and Altmia Coupe were released ahead of thier offical release date.. It would be safe to bet that the Rouge well be at the dealers Late Sept, early Oct.
  • brett2007brett2007 Member Posts: 39
    Today, I test drove both the Subaru Forester 2.5x (w/ perf pkg) and the Honda CR-V EX today.

    I really liked the Subaru, but was less than impressed with the CR-V.

    The CR-V felt way too wide open inside, and when idling, it shook a fair bit. Definitely felt more wobbly and tipsy on the road (there was a fair bit of wind today) compared to the Forester. The Forester handled great and seemed to have nice acceleration (even more so than my wife's 2007 Outback) despite some reviews I've read which said acceleration was average on the Forester.

    Only things I wish the Forester had are steering wheel mounted radio controls, bluetooth and a fold flat front passenger seat to be able to put in longer items.

    Right now the Forester is definitely my top contender, hopefully the Rogue will arrive soon for test drives.
  • mcq1mcq1 Member Posts: 103
    Well I have decided to purchase a Hyundai Santa Fe instead of the Rogue. I need the room. The Rogue is going to be as small as the Tucson and smaller than the Rav and CRV.
    The Santa Fe has all the bells and whistles and gas mileage is not really bad 22-24.
    I really think you should go test drive a Santa Fe as well.
  • flightnurseflightnurse Member Posts: 2,217
    Mike thanks for the Info, the Motor Trend report was very positive, I like the fact that a mid line SL should cost about 23K. My Versa's lease is up next July, I think I have found my next SUV..
  • jd10013jd10013 Member Posts: 779
    Thats why you really need to test drive. you can probably find a good and bad review for every vehicle on the planet. they cann't even agree on the numbers. motor trend has it at 8.2, and edmunds at 9.2.
  • cpcacpca Member Posts: 20
    It looks like Motor Trend used a front-wheel-drive model for their test, and Edmunds used an all-wheel-drive model for their test, and the extra 200 pounds + AWD drag accounts for the 8.2 vs. 9.2 difference. MT cites 22/27 mileage and Edmunds cites 21/26 mileage which also is FWD vs. AWD.
  • birdboybirdboy Member Posts: 158
    The fever is slowly rising and I have been patient. I have held off on the purchase of the Santa Fe as I think I would prefer the Rogue as it is seems more compact and yields better MPG. Under no circumstances will I pay 30K for this vehicle and it seems that every option that I would like must be purchased with a package. I would like, at this point ,the SL AWD with premium and leather. The motortrend review quotes a fully loaded SL for around 26K. I would consider 26K pending a test drive, but not 28 or 30K . Does anyone out there have any pricing information as of yet? For more information visit www.NissanRogue.org. I found this site to be a good compliment to edmunds.
  • kellyb2kellyb2 Member Posts: 7
    Nissan must have lost their minds when they priced this vehicle. Sure it's cute on the outside, but is pretty base even with the most expensive package. That MPG isn't even that great. What a disappointment.
  • brett2007brett2007 Member Posts: 39
    I don't understand why the pricing info still has yet to be released on nissannews.com, if all these reviewers seem to know about the pricing.

    I am looking at some of the deals on the '07 Subaru Foresters and don't want to miss out on these discounts by waiting on the Rogue only to find out that either its way overpriced, or that I don't like how it drives.

    I saw that $26k fully loaded priced listed in Motor Trends review as well. I assume that's MSRP, but what kind of discount can you get if supply is limited, prob not much. :(

    Saw this today:

    http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/26/2008-nissan-rogue-priced-under-20-000/

    Come on Nissan...show us the goods.
    My local Nissan dealer said they'd be getting a couple in in September, but didn't know what trim level.
  • enrouteenroute Member Posts: 17
    Well.. when you say apple to apple, to me, it's the price issue. With similar price tag here in Canada when choosing similar options (i.e. moonroof, leather seats, etc.) on both vehicles, I don't see a reason not to compare Santa Fe with Rouge. Indeed, we are talking about a 3.3L V6 with a smaller engine on the Rouge. I compare SUVs for my real daily life, not a segmentation debate in automakers' meeting room. :)

    Believe or not, I've put CRV, Santa Fe, and later the Rouge on my list to replace my RAV4 before 2008. Why I can't compare their specs and prices because they are in different class?
  • brett2007brett2007 Member Posts: 39
    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=122282

    It says the SL they test drove was MSRP of 28k, sounds like it was maxed out.

    A couple things to note...

    "This Rogue SL's optional leather-upholstered front seats are comfortable, but the six-way manual adjustment has its limitations, as our seat companion (apparently pampered by electronic seat controls in the past) inadvertently released the seatback and it flipped forward and whacked her in the noggin with the headrest."

    The way this is worded, it sounds like if you choose leather, its only the front seats which are leather. And only the driver's seat has electric controls.

    There was a more favorable review done by motor trend here:
    (Incidentally they claim a maxed out Rogue is $26k)

    Motor Trend Review:
    http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/112_0711_2008_nissan_rogue

    Cars.com Review:
    http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2007/08/carscom-revie-2.html
  • brucepowerbrucepower Member Posts: 28
    OK, I am not going to get into a long lengthy discussion about apples to apples but, when you start saying the Santa Fe is bigger and more powerful you are not discussing the same class of vehicle and therefore cannot slam the Rogue for not having the same amount of room. If you truly compare SUV's in your daily life I wouldn't have to explain this to you. Again the Rogue, CRV, RAV4 etc. are comparable SUV's. Xterra, Santa Fe and Highlander are similar SUV's in case you didn't know.
  • brett2007brett2007 Member Posts: 39
    Looking at pictures, both front and back seats do have leather.
  • mcq1mcq1 Member Posts: 103
    I agree with you. I am currently tossing between the Hyundai Santa Fe, The Rogue and the Rav. I do know the St.Fe is a midsize verus compact.
    My husband wants the room. I could go with the Rogue.
  • brucepowerbrucepower Member Posts: 28
    Are you in Canada, if so did you go to a dealer when they had the Nissan Rogue for viewing. I found it very roomy to sit in and has plenty of room for stuff in the back. I has as much floor space as my X-trail but the slope of the window does cut down on the overall interior space but who piles stuff to the roof any ways? I was so impressed I put down a down payment and I will get the first Rogue my dealer gets in (Rogue SL AWD with premium and leather package in Iridium Graphite) should be in by end of September.
  • hand1hand1 Member Posts: 19
    Bruce:

    Have you received a quote on the Rogue and if you have give me the numbers. However, the pricing here in the United States might be different.

    August 28, 2007
  • hand1hand1 Member Posts: 19
    August 28, 2007

    Charlie:

    I am getting 25 city and 35 on the interstates, this is for the 2005 Nissan Murano SL-Front-Wheel driven. I am hoping that the Rogue will even top the mileage that I am getting through my Murano. I have to agree with you that I have never purchased any other auto manufacturer, with the exception of a 1982 Toyota Corrola; I couldn't wait until I got rid of this vehicle. After finding someone to sell this car to, I went straight to Nissan and purchased a 1983 Nissan Pulsar NX; this was one great small car and I was getting 45 miles highway and 35 miles city.
  • brucepowerbrucepower Member Posts: 28
    I paid list price got deals on extended warranty and they through in $500 of accessories. and yes pricing is very different in CANADA we get different packages and standard items ie; mud flaps and block heater.
  • brucepowerbrucepower Member Posts: 28
    WOW, that's way over the EPA estimates and they are high, here in Canada our gallon is 20% bigger than yours and we cannot match that, sure you know how to calculate gas mileage?
  • mikelevine64mikelevine64 Member Posts: 39
    Official US Pricing should be released by Sep. 10th.

    Vehicles should be released to US Nissan dealers starting Sep 15.
  • wstankowstanko Member Posts: 7
    Great info Mike. Is that released price date (9-10), a date for release to the public or to the dealers? I would think that in the near future (before then) dealers would have memos about the cost.
  • flightnurseflightnurse Member Posts: 2,217
    CUrrently no dealers in the Phoenix Area has any info on the Rouge, I got 3 different dates in which they well arrive to the dealers (they range from 9-30 to 10-10) I went to a Nissan Dealer last night and saw a Altima Coupe, WOW what a nice car.. But I'm holding out for the Rouge..
  • mikelevine64mikelevine64 Member Posts: 39
    Nissan usually will release prices to dealers ABOUT 10 days before the public release. My info source is not providing EXACT details. So I'm thinking Dealer price release between Sep 5th - 10th, Public price release Sep 15th. 1st vehicle delivers to dealers between Sep 15th - 30th. Unless Nissan needs to hold vehicle at the port to correct a last minute issue longer.

    Normally larger dealers & dealers closest to the port of entry receive vehicles earlier than others.
  • ejonavinejonavin Member Posts: 36
    Nissan is advertising it as "all-wheel drive system with yaw rate control". Does anybody know if there's any tech articles about this system?
  • brucepowerbrucepower Member Posts: 28
    Check out this site and make sure you view the PDF file Go to the Prices and specs tab

    http://www.nissan.ca/en/ms/futuremodels/rogue/
  • wstankowstanko Member Posts: 7
    My local dealership is one of 3 in SW PA that received a preview Rogue for one day. This Rogue traveled from Charlotte to our area to be part of a car display at an outdoor music venue in the near future.

    My dealer, who has been working with me to find exactly what I wanted, gave me a “Heads Up” yesterday that it was arriving and I could drive it too.

    It was a silver SL AWD with the Premium Package, but no leather. When I pulled into the dealership, to my surprise, it was in plain view. A first glance I thought it was a Murano, but a second confirmed that it was too small; Honey, I shrunk the Murano!! A quick walk around revealed an insect covered front end that doesn't make for great 1st impressions. I was eyeing the notorious rear window with that pillar that has raised so many concerns. From the outside it did not seem so ominous.

    Soon a salesman appeared with the Intelligent Key. Without further ado, I climbed into the driver’s seat and manually adjusted it for comfort. I’m 5’11’ and is was a snap to get positioned for comfort. No sun roof left me with many inches above, so even with, no problem. There was a full view of the hood, really appreciated since I have been driving an 04 Max for the last 3.5 years. I fully adjusted those mirrors for I was fearful of that blind spot.
    Leaving the lot and on to a winding 2 lane that climbed most of the way to an intersection showed me immediately that “I was not in Kansas anymore.” The Max would have never hesitated, but the 4 cyl. with that CVT began to labor just a little. I downshifted with the paddles and it helped. This is what will be the hardest to get used to, for this gas-sipper has consequences in power. The steering was very responsive and did not wander. The braking was predictable and very Nissan. And that blind spot, well the side window that I always use for my peeking, was covered with sheets of information. Really! I had to look thru not a window, but a small crack on the window. Still got by. When I returned to the lot, I backed in between a Mercedes and Titan, no problem. Not parallel.

    Anyways, crawling around afterward, I was most interested in the cargo area. I found it to be all that I needed and with seats down, very generous for my needs. Sitting in the back seat gave me all the room I could have wanted. Nice. I never thought that I was looking at a high-end vehicle. It was very Altima like in its appearance, not Maxima or Murano like. I wish this one would have had the Leather Package, for that should have increased the richness level , I hope.
  • flightnurseflightnurse Member Posts: 2,217
    Bruce the Canadian packages are much different they the US packages, I find it hard to beleive that you can only get bluetooth in AWD here in the US. I really hope that isn't true..

    Tony
  • mikelevine64mikelevine64 Member Posts: 39
    Good Review !

    Did the vehicle have any price info on it ??
  • wstankowstanko Member Posts: 7
    When I saw all that data on the rear window, I went straight to it. But it was comparison info among the Rogue, CR-V, RAV4, Tucson, and Forester. The Rogue was listed as TBA. There is no doubt in my mind that a fully dressed SL AWD will be $28500.

    Build a CR-V or RAV4 and put all that you can into the build. You will approach or pass the above figure. Sure, there will be Nav on that CR-V, but there is also a list of things the Rogue has that it does not.

    You will have to desire what is important to you and then bring your money.

    Thank you for the compliment about the review, but really it was written from a personal point of view. When I look at a cargo area, I see 10 grocery bags or 3 suitcases. Then I think, that's all that I need. Others will not feel that way.

    One salesman was talking to another as I looked, and he said that he had a potential customer who wanted to put 4 golf bags into the cargo area!! Yikes, this is not going to be pretty. If you do get them in and then 4 men. Get a Murano.

    BTW, all that you read about that Bose audio system is true. I have Bose in my 04 Max but it does not sound like this one.
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