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The Manager told me it is a known problem with all Versas that the fuel pumps need to be replaced. I asked if there was a recall and he said no, that Nissan was handling it as a service advisory.
You all may want to contact your dealer to find out about this.
TIA folks for any help with this matter
The Sandman :mad:
That's a link to our Edmunds page on recalls and TSBs. Only thing I've been able to find through more digging is:
Versa (C11) 07-09
NTB07094
* IF YOU CONFIRM: The engine needs to be cranked for a long time (4-10 seconds) before the engine starts. And Fuel system pressure after engine shutoff drops lower than 200 kPa (29 psi) after 30 minutes time. ACTION: Replace the fuel pressure regulator. See the Service Procedure for instructions on replacing the fuel pressure regulator.
Your dealer should be able to pull up that TSB though.
I'm really jazzed on a Cube as my next car but NOT if it is a mirror image of the Versa. I'll look to a Fit or new Insight, perhaps.
It depends upon what you mean by "mirror image." Personally, I wouldn't use this phrase when comparing the Cube with the Versa/Tiida.
The Cube that we get will be fitted with a CVT, right?
Correct. 6MT will also be available on the NA Cube.
Different engine or same?
The same engine as the Versa's, you mean? If so, yes. It will be MR18DE.
Cube is made in Japan - is the Versa assembled in NA?
Correct on both fronts. The NA Cube, as all Cubes so far have been, will be assembled at the Oppama Works in Japan, whereas the NA Versa is being assembled at the Aguascalientes facility in Mexico.
Is there a JDM version of the Versa that is different?
Actually, the Versa is the NA version of the Tiida, with the NA market-specific tuning and slightly different sheetmetal.
Are there Renault parts on the NA Versa?
It depends on what you mean by the "Renault" parts. As you know, many Nissan cars use the same global platform as the Renault. The Cube, as with the Versa, uses the B platform which is also used in the Renault Clio III and Modus. This platform is the most widely used in the Nissan cars and was jointly developed by Nissan and Renault.
Just as a follow-up : What are some of the specific QC or reliability weaknesses in the Versa that have been ID'd by the auto media and owners that could pop-up in the Cube if they share the same engine (and whatever other components) that I should weigh in my buying decision?
I realize the Cube isn't even here yet in NA but would still appreciate advice / perspective. Thanks.
thanks for the advice!
How many miles do you intend to drive it, before you sell it or trade it in?
Thanks for the plug change info. Denso iridium plugs are expensive but with the hassle involved in changing them I will spend the extra money for their longer life.
Not sure what happened to you in the end BUT I had exactly the same problem with my 07 Versa. I ended up taking it in 10 times to the dealership and being patted on the head and told there was nothing wrong with CVT transmissions and I was crazy. They had to replace the entire transmission in my Versa. SO I took it back to the dearlership and said I was not going to pay for a new car that would need to have its transmission replaced within 6 months! They rolled my lease into a new 2008 Versa fully loaded, however in the summer I started expierencing new electrical problems with my new car, my ABS light would go on, and my hatch would sound like it was unlocking and locking on its own. It would even do it when the car was shut off and I was standing 3 feet from it! I took it in to my dealership they told me the hatch had been slammed and needed to be adjusted. I told them it was an electrical problem, and sure enough the very next day it did it again. The worst part was when the hatch would lock and unlock on its own it would either be totally sealed shut OR not lock at all causing the Alarm to go off!!! Now just this week it wouldn't start at minus 12 degrees. SO I think Nissan Versas are JUST BAD CAR's I am having to start arbitration myself I can't pay for a car for another 4 years that is brand new and is already bad!!! Did you end up getting yours fixed???? :sick:
Nissan was not able to resolve my problems so I took them to arbitration (Canada only) and won the case. The lawyer who was the arbitrator could not believe that Nissan didn't feel that having a car that wouldn't start properly and run properly in our cold winters was a problem. My car wouldn't drive more than 15 mph on some days! I won the hearing and Nissan was forced to buy back my car. I took a $7000 hit but it was worth it at the time because I needed a reliable car in -40 weather.
I don't know how the lemon law works in the US but perhaps you should check to see if you qualify. Having a car that is in for repairs constantly is soooo frustrating! Especially a new car!
My car is having the same issues and I am hoping you can help me do a little self-diagnosis before I call the dealership.
Also, was this repair covered under the warranty or extended warranty? (Not alot of extra cash lying around right now....)
Thanks!
1st time they couldn't diagnose the problem
2nd time they replaced the transmission and it did it again within two days
3rd time they replaced the TCM and they said that the Nissan Engineers wouldn't guarantee that would fix the problem
this all happend within a 2 week period
we sold the car and got a Mazda - absolutely no problems with the Mazda in 2 years
One of the rental cars they gave me during all this was also a Versa hatchback, automatic. I noticed on the highway that at 70 mph, the engine was at about 2700 RPM. With my manual at 70 MPH, the engine is at 3100-3200 RPM.
Is a manual transmission supposed to run at higher RPM than an automatic?
Also I've lost faith in this dealer service dept. At what point (still under warranty) can I bring the car to my own trusted mechanic of the last 13 years?
I've never driven a Versa with an automatic, but I can verify that your RPM observation is correct on the manual. It's really my only minor question about the 6-speed. It feels like it could use a 7th gear, or be geared a little different to lower the RPMs just a bit in 6th gear. But like I said, that's a minor wish list item for me.
I'll post about my ABS experiences in the Versa brake discussion as soon as I have a few days of driving the 2010 around :shades:
Thanks for your input.
I'm just going to keep at it with these service guys. Would it be of any help for me to contact Nissan directly?
Does the noise disappear above idle? What makes it worse or better? It's hard to say what you might want to do based on the description of the sound.
Am I correct that your clunk went away when they replaced the transmission?
As far as the clunk goes, since they returned it to me a few visits back (before replacing the transmission) and said it was the ABS self-check, I've heard much less of it. Sometimes not at all, sometimes very faintly. Another incidence which leads me to believe these guys aren't close. It almost seems like they accidently fixed it without even knowing.
Thanks for your correspondence, it's good therapy for me.
OK so while I am thankful that they replaced it.....the question is why did it need to be done? Who ever heard of a recent vintage vehicle burning up an engine @ 50K miles? Maybe if it was a race car or something but come on!!
BTW, as a point of reference my Ford 4cyl truck has 187K miles and does not burn any oil. My Toyota Matrix (Vibe GT) 4cyl has 165K miles and does not burn any oil. I think Nissan missed something in the design of the Versa.
When my Versa was in at the dealership service center, I was given a rental Versa, automatic. It ran 2800-2900 RPM at 65 MPH.
I have a 2007 and a 2010, both 6 speeds, and it's really the only thing that I think I would change about the cars. My daughters say it this way...
It feels like I need to shift into 7th gear
I bought my car 13 months ago. It was running great, but there were always little problems here and there that would annoy me... From a chipped window, faulty weather stripping, a car alarm that never works, and now, the thing wont start. Its been sitting in my driveway for the past 4 days collecting dust. I've taken it for service 3 times already for the same problem and it seems like no one is able to figure out what's wrong with it.
It began about a month ago, at my one-year mark, when the car just wouldn't turn over. Like everything powers up, they even tested the battery and its not the battery... They said it might be the alarm, but the alarm specialist guy "fixed" it, got it started, and sent me on my way... The next morning when I got up to start my day, the thing wouldn't start again. Soooo... there I go back to the dealership and oh, "its the alarm, the guy's here, so he'll fix it for sure this time". A week later, biggity-bam, my car, she's a not working... AGAIN. I take it back, they tell me its a little bit of corrosion developing on my battery and I might just need to clean it up a little bit when I get home... They start her up and send me on my way... I get home, hop in my car to head to the grocery store and to my chagrin, the darn thing won't start again.... I call the dealership, and right off the bat, they tell me that its more than likely my battery or battery cables that are outta whack, but I decided to call Nissan Headquarters and complain...
This is messed up. I traded in my old Integra for this car... I've never been late on a payment. I bought a BRAND NEW/ZERO MILES car so that I wouldn't have to worry about any problems... at least not after a YEAR with the thing...
If you're in the US, check your state lemon law and see if it applies. If you're in Canada, check into arbitration. I applied for arbitration and won my case against Nissan. The company had to buy back my car.
Good luck!
I am skeptical because the first time the problem just stopped. It the Torque converter blew out it would not have started working again.
Has anyone experienced this issue and can you offer advice on what you did to correct it?
Thanks in advance.
Has anyone had problems with their engine, even after being diligent with changing the oil? I do not know how I should proceed and would appreciate any help anyone can give me.
Thanks.
I was referred to cconsumer affairs who escalated my case up three levels, only to finally (3 months later) tell me that consumer affairs has no jurisdiction in this kind of thing, and that the warranty department (that I'm not allowed to speak with) has the only and final say in the matter unless I want to sue them. No idea why it took them 3 months to realize that they have no role in the situation....
If they had promptly told me a reasonable reason for declining my coverage -- you were late on an oil change, we've seen evidence of somebody dropping a hammer on the engine, we suspect you were in an accident, whatever -- I probably would just have accepted it as a reasonable (if wrong) judgment call. As it is, though, they took 3 months and who knows how many phone calls just to tell me that "actually, even though re inclined to agree with you, we have no voice in the decision."
I had this kind of runaround once before -- with a 2002 Toyota Rav4. It smelled like a coverup to me. And while I might be a little quick to jump to conspiracy theories, I stuck with it (along with about 50 other folks I met online with very similar symptoms). And while it took a couple of years, a month ago, Toyota finally issued a recall for 250,000 RAV4s for this problem.
does anyone else fear they are going to be in an accident due to that slow to shift cvt transmission? switching from reverse to drive or vice versa and your sitting for three or four seconds watching traffic bear down on you until it finally engages. also, has anyone experienced the very slow to re-engage transmission after having to jam the brakes on? the engine revs high but you're just barely crawling then it finally engages and you're up to speed after about seven or nine seconds. is that familiar to anyone or did I just get a big red stinking lemon?
Frank 2009 Versa S sedan MT-6 with 16700 mi & 33.7 MPG overall average.
I received my new Versa 1.8L SL with CVT transmission in July 2010, - brand new.
I am beginning to think that I received a lemon! :lemon:
Everything went wwell until mid September 2010 when I had 3289 km on it, and I statred to notice strange noises. A whistling noise was coming from the underside of the car. This whistling noise became more pronounced when I would be decelerating coming to a stop. It is very annoying.
In addition, after statring the car, and leaving the curb, shortly thereafter, a clunking noise could be heard from underneath the car towards the back of the car.
I immediately took this car to my Nissan dealership as I leased the car from Nissan, and technically I consider it their car.
On September 12, 2010, the service department took it for a test run, and stated that teh whistling noise is normal for teh CVT transmission, and that they could not hear the clunking noise. They recommended that I continue to observe the car, and they would look at [non-permissible content removed] on teh next oil change.
It is now Nov. 3, 2010, and I took it in again to the Nissan dealership for the whistling noise and the clunk clunk noise which now shortly after the electronic locks have locked.
The President of this dealership actually took it on the test drive with me, and stated that he could not hear any noises. When the clunk produced itself he did not hear it, and he then test drove another new Nissan Versa SL with CVT transmission with me, and he heard no noises.
I stated that I was being treated as a "crazy female". He then had his CVT expert mechanic and another service manager go for a test drive with my car. I also went along and sat in the back of the car. From the back of the car, it was hard to hear any whizzing noise coming from "Whistling Dixie"; however the two service reps that came with us sat in teh front, and they said that they could hear a slight whistling noise. ---- I was told THIS IS NORMAL FOR THE CVT TRANSMISSION!
I have also started to notice the smell of antifreeze in the passenger compartment. This only happens rarely. My brother has suggested to me that it might be a very slight leak somewhere, when a drop hits the hot engine compartment, and the smell of antifreeze comes into the car.
I am now monitoring my anti - freeze level. Since September I have stopped listening to the radio bcause I must listen to all teh strange noises the car is making.
The clunk clunk noise which used to be only from the back of the car is now sometimes coupled with additional noise under the front of the car.
I am getting fed up with this car, and I am getting fed up being told that all this is normal.
The service centre is giving me the run around, wanting to confirm that my winter tires were included. The president asked that my contract be "unearthed from last July, and so it was finally ressurected.
I am not impressed with my Nissan dealership "What kind of service is this?
Nissan Japan should be ashamed of this kind of treatment of customers.
Please repond I need help!!!! :lemon:
Whistling Dixie :lemon:
Dixie
Not really joking, I had that happen with my first car. Had so many problems with it I made the dealer take it back.