Nissan Versa Engine Problems

sschwsschw Member Posts: 8

I just purchase a 2007 Nissan Versa in October at 400 miles I started hearing a noise from the engine when the car is idle in gear stopped and the brake is applied. From inside the car is sounds like a constant rattle. I took it to the dealership and they can't figure out what the problem is because this is all new to them. Is anyone else having this problem?????? It's almost like something is loose and when the engine vibrates it's making the rattle it can get very loud a times. It's now at 4000 miles and they still can't figure it out.... Anyone else across the country having or had the same problem?


  • cathy8cathy8 Member Posts: 37
    I've had my Versa for just over 2 months and absolutely love it. However, this morning I was not impressed when the engine light came on and the car would not drive faster than 20 KM. I drove it immediately to the dealership with my 4 way flashers on.

    Apparently when there is a problem that could damage the engine the light comes on and stops the car from going any faster than 20 KM. Their computer check indicated a problem with the throttle. They checked the throttle and it was fine. They cleaned off some throttle connecters and it began to work fine. They do not know what was definitely wrong but suspect it had something to do with the cold weather.

    So, whether it was actually cleaning the connection that helped or having the car in a warm building for 1 hour that fixed the problem they do not know.

    If it was the cold weather causing the problem I'll not be happy. I live where it is cold 5 nonths of the year and I bought a new car to make sure I had a reliable vehicle. Has anyone else had this happen?
  • carenthusiastvcarenthusiastv Member Posts: 3
    Two things to remember when buying a car at 400 miles are:

    1. Why was the seller getting rid of the car (i.e. accident, drove it crazily.

    2. Maybe the clutch has been worn down, mostly because the rattling could be the clutch hitting the transmission, or could be the engine connection (the power convertor) loose because of an accident. Either way, take it to the dealership and ask them to take a look at the frame and the clutch.
  • sschwsschw Member Posts: 8
    I purchase the brand new.. The car had 25 miles on it. It was not used! The noise started at 400 miles.


  • evil200000000evil200000000 Member Posts: 3
    I had a different problem but similar to yours. My Versa would make a clunk sound when i go over a bump or on rough surface. It sounds like it's coming from the front somewhere. Dealer couldn't locate it because the sound comes once in a while.
  • evil200000000evil200000000 Member Posts: 3
    my versa wouldn't start one day on a cold afternoon. I tried it for a couple times and was about to call service but decided to give it one more shot and held the key in there for a good 5-7 seconds and eventually started it but thick white smoke coming out smelling like gasoline. I let it warm for 10 minutes and it's working fine now.
  • sschwsschw Member Posts: 8
    Well, it's still at the dealership... It's been there since Thursday. It's now Sunday... They thought it was the engine mount. They ordered the part, had it shipped overnight and installed it on Friday.....and the noise is still there!!!! I guess I will get an update on Monday. They are trying to call down to the Nissan Versa Engineers in CA..., but the Engineers are not returning the Dealership's phone calls... I hope they can locate this problem... It sounds like they are having trouble because the car is so new to the market. They gave me rental car.. I know the Dealership is trying their best.... I will keep you update...
  • sschwsschw Member Posts: 8
    I picked up the Versa last night. Dealer said the problem was fixed. They replaced one engine mount and another one was not sitting correctly. They tightened up the mounts. I drove it home and no noise when I stopped at the lights. However, this morning the car was cold. I drove it to the top of my hill and stepped on the brake and the noise is back! Depressing! I drove it to the next red light and the noise is still there. When the car heated up and stopped, the noise was not there. It is going back to the Dealership Thursday night. They want the car when it is cold. I hope they can find out what the problem is. It is not happening all the time now.. It is just when the engine is cold. Are they sure, it doesn't have anything to do when the brake is applied? It only happens when the brake is applied? Any suggestions? I will keep you posted...
  • orbit9090orbit9090 Member Posts: 116
    Sorry to read your Nissan Versa french-mobile is causing you grief. :sick:
    Nissan should never have been allowed to sneak Renaults :lemon: back into our country.

    Next time remember...

  • evil200000000evil200000000 Member Posts: 3
    you know your problem is very similar to mine now. The sound only comes when the car is cold ( when the temperature blue light is still on) i dont think its the brake. My ally is terrible and i would go slowly down, i would hear the noise. From what i can hear on the inside, it sounds like the noise is coming from the left suspension or shock. My car would pull slightly to the left, so i took the car back for service and they changed the strut bar and had a wheel alignment. By today the noise is still there. keep me up to date of what is going on with your car.
  • jan18jan18 Member Posts: 1
    I purchased the Versa this summer and it has been ok. Wind shield washers seemed a little anemic, but worked. I live in Michigan, as soon as it started getting cold washers stopped working. Dealer said I put plain h2o and they froze. I didn't.
    Recently did a trip to Colorado and back on 80. Could have gotten killed, washers barely worked. I filled with the good to 20 bellow washer fluid I use in other vehicles and dealer says that will still freeze. Right now their attitude seems to be, too bad its not a good design and I guess the washers won't work when its cold out. Has anyone else had this problem? This is a real safety hazard. If this is the best they can do I want to get rid of the car. :sick:
  • sschwsschw Member Posts: 8

    I wanted to give everyone an update. The car went back to the dealership again! They can't fix it. They have tried.. They are calling in a Nissan Field Engineer now from the New England Area... The gave the Engineers measurements over the phone. The noise is now happening again when the car is warm. Stop at a light, press the brake and push the window button and the noise starts up.! Hate this! They are calling me tomorrow to schedule for me to bring it back again... When the Engineer is coming to RI. I will keep everyone posted. Wish me luck! I just want the noise to go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • bibikbibik Member Posts: 1
    Hi everybody!

    I am a (used to be happy) owner of a 2007 Nissan Versa. I bought the car in November 2006 and now it has 6500 km on its odometer.

    About a week ago it started to having problem with the engine start. Sometimes (not always!) I have to crank the engine for a minute or so to get it started. And sometimes it just starts instantly! The problem happens on a cold or hot a engine - does not matter. Sometimes the engine starts with no problem whatsoever at -20 C, sometimes (like today) I had to jump-start it because I had killed the battery after a couple of minutes of cranking.
    Today I went for a first service (oil change) and told the dealership about the problem. They tried to help, but at this particular time the engine was starting with no indication of any problems.
    They run a full diagnostic on the car and came up with nothing. They called Nissan Help Line and got no information about the issue. But they told me that now on the Nissan has opened a "file" on my car and they want me to gather the statistic data when and how often the engine is failing to start. Well, I am not too happy about that task, but looks like I have to do this if I want my car fixed.
    I run a search on the Internet and found a few complain about the similar problem. On this particular forum here cathy8 is describing something similar.

    Why am I created this topic? I want to gather information from other people. If somebody has similar experience, please tell your story. Especially if you know fix for the problem. I am not trying to blame Nissan ([non-permissible content removed] happens). My goal is to help them (Nissan) to fix my car.

    I will appreciate any feedback!


    P.S. English is my third language, so please be tolerant.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesMember Posts: 18,946
    Your English is fine... no problems understanding your post.
  • unhappyversaunhappyversa Member Posts: 1
    I am having this same problem where there is a rattling noise near the front right tire when I hit a bump. It has been doing this since we bought the car and 3 dealers have looked at it and can't find the problem. Have you figured out your problem yet? What have the dealers told you?
  • sschwsschw Member Posts: 8
    Another update...
    It's going back tonight 2/19.. The Nissan Field Engineer is coming to the dealership tomorrow.. Oh.. Please I hope he finds the problem. The engine noise is back again when the car is warm. Car is stopped at a light and the brake is applied. The Engine light is back on again!!! It came back on two days ago.. I will keep everyone posted... This is hell! :(
  • dtownfbdtownfb Member Posts: 2,918
    I would hardly blame Nissan for washer fluid.

    Next time you are out, go to Walmart and get a bottle of Prestone windshield washer fluid additive. It's a clear bottle with clear liquid that you add to the washer fluid to prevent freezing. I would add this once the car is warmed up and the fluid is not frozen. It cost about $1.89 for a 16 oz. bottle.

    It's basically the same stuff they add to the washer fluid to make it "winter mix" but concentrated. Works great. I would get a couple of bottles to have on hand for future use.
  • streakerstreaker Member Posts: 5
    I found that my Versa's engine would occasionally not turn over easily after it had been initially started, driven and then turned off. I read in the manual that "warm starts" might be a problem if you are using any fuel with ethanol in it. In this part of Ontario Canada, ethanol is being added to most fuel, often it is not even mentioned on the pumps. At this point in time, I have contacted Nissan and complained that they would put a car on the market that is difficult to buy fuel for. I have to buy expensive Shell V Power gas or find small gas stations that have not changed over yet. I believe that it is a now a requirement that gas should be about 10 percent ethanol from what I can gather. I called Nissan about this last Friday and today being Monday night, I plan on calling them within the next couple days. I am very upset that Nissan would not consider fuel type in putting this car on the market where Ethanol abounds and straight gas is hard to find. I am wondering if I will have to try to pressure them for a recall or go to some of the Market Place type shows and the media to look into this possibly irresponsible behaviour of Nissan. I hope that Nissan has an easy answer. Could this be the problem for other Versa owners?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesMember Posts: 18,946
    Typically the owner's manual states what kind of gas is acceptable for a car. What does the Versa's manual say about gas with, say, 10% ethanol? That is very common in the U.S too, especially in winter. I think in my area (Twin Cities) many stations use that blend all year long.
  • streakerstreaker Member Posts: 5
    The owner manual states that you can try gasoline mixtures with up to 10 percent ethanol but that if you have problems, such as difficulty with warm starts, like I have, then go back to gasoline fuel only.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesMember Posts: 18,946
    That's cool. Maybe they could add, "If going back to gasoline fuel only requires you to move to a different state, Nissan is not responsible for any relocation costs." :sick:
  • sschwsschw Member Posts: 8
    Hello Everyone,

    I wanted to give everyone and update. The Nissan Field Engineer came out and found the bracket was not secured to the car the bracket to the Steel Evap System lines were not installed correctly causing the vibration. So far so good.... No NOISE!!! Hurray! The engineer fixed it. Great job! Nissan. I guess the robot at the factory was tired. I am just glad it got fixed after 9 times to the dealership. I had a lemon law attorney lined up to go if they could fix it this last time. Hurray and thank you to the Nissan Engineer. Great Job! Thanks everyone. I hope my story helps anyone else who is having a Vibration for the engine. :)
  • streakerstreaker Member Posts: 5
    ...or move to a different province or territory for those of us in Canada. Hmm, it might have to be a different country the way it may be going.
  • rwgreenbergrwgreenberg Member Posts: 154
    Hi. My good friend has a Versa which he loves, except for one thing. Every so often he turns the key and NOTHING lights, no engine turnover...nothing. If he gets out of the car and shakes the vehicle it will then start (sometimes he has to repeat the shaking routine a few times). Any thoughts on this would be appreiciated. Rich
  • harrycheztharrychezt Member Posts: 405
    had a 90 sentra xe(3 speed automatic)...and a 97 200sx...
    automatic/base model. 90 stalled at 7K miles, and they reset the timing, replaced the plugs, and that was it.
    97, 65K, refused to start.... was told ignition coil issues, starter needed a rebuild, and all due to timing chain slipping a notch... off set timing, thus messing up other items over a few months time(made it difficult to notice, except a few times it was difficult to start up, and it's cold here in the Midwest in late Nov..).
    Over 1K in cost.
    Anyhow, I test drove an SL Versa hatch... CVT... and really liked it, alot.
    Now, though, with all of these stories of car not starting unless one shakes it, or 9 times to a dealership to get a fix...
    has Nissan really changed much since out 97 200sx issues?
    I really like the Versa I drove, but... these stories give me pause, and make me reconsider giving Nissan a 2nd chance.
    The most wild thing I heard here is the car having issues with warm starts, due to ethanol, etc...
    maybe they will fix this for 08?
    This is a unique complaint(first time I have heard of it, from any maker).
    Hoping to hear better news before I decide what to buy next time!
  • theyurostheyuros Member Posts: 5
    Versa S HB, bought new last week.

    I've been driving for about 18 years now, so I *think* I have this whole "starting the car" thing down, but for some reason this car's ignition is fickle. Either that or I'm doing something wrong.

    Sometimes it starts fine and others, it takes me several tries for it to start. There is no sound, the "idiot" lights engage, but the car just does not start. I was trying to start it with the doors open (kids don't like climbing into a hot car), and thought maybe that was the problem. No. Do I need to depress the brake? No. I tried stopping on "on" for a second instead of just cranking it over. Again, no sound emanates from the engine. Just like when you try to start your car when it's not in park (yes I have done that, many years ago in college. That AAA guy was VERY understanding!).

    Am I the only one with this issue? I feel stupid, like I'm missing a step? SOMETHING??

    PLEASE, shed some light on this for me! :confuse:
  • dtownfbdtownfb Member Posts: 2,918
    I don't own a Versa but I heard on the radio recently that Nissan issue a warning about having the key fob too close to a cellphone. Unfortunately, I didn't hear what kind of problems it would cause. Do a Google search and see if this could be the problem.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAMember Posts: 9,399
    I recall hearing something about cell phones and key fobs, but it's not a Versa issue. A quick search turned up a couple of news items...

    Drivers of some Nissan and Infiniti vehicles are finding their "intelligent keys" and cell phones just don't mix.

    An incoming call can erase an electronic key fobs' programming, rendering some 2007 Nissan Altimas or 2007 Infiniti G35 sedans immobile.

    Nissan North America is telling owners to keep their phones and fobs at least one inch apart at all times. The plastic keys use radio technology called near-field communication, which allows a driver to unlock and start the car while the fob is in a purse or pocket.

    Nissan says some cell phones, if touching the key while sending or receiving a call, may alter the key's electronic code. When that happens, the key cannot be reprogrammed.

  • theyurostheyuros Member Posts: 5
    Thanks for the info, but unfortunately, I do not have the Intelli-Key system.

    It's weird, but it seems to be more prevalent when the car has been sitting out in the sun for a long period of time.

    Taking it to the dealer tomorrow. The car is brand new and I'm going to be a little upset if it's the starter already. Hopefully it's just a wiring issues.

    My husband checked under the hood and noticed the cover over the battery "bolts" (for lack of better term) was not on snuggly?

    Thanks again!
  • jd10013jd10013 Member Posts: 779
    I would say the vast majority of versa owners are quite satisfied with their cars, and most have not experienced any problems. Every make and model of car will have its lemons. But the versa is a completely new vehicle, and some design and/or assembly problems are bound to show up. Thats a risk you take when you buy a fist ever car, or redesign of an old one. If you realy like the car a lot, and can wait a few months, you might consider holding out for the 2008 model. It should be for sale no later than sept.
  • bikedorianbikedorian Member Posts: 48
    "But the versa is a completely new vehicle, and some design and/or assembly problems are bound to show up."

    The Versa's not completely new. It's uses a Renault platform that's been out for a few years. The engines new but the Japanese have been building 1.8 four bangers for decades with few problems so it's not like they need to re-invent something.
    The rest of the vehicle is new and that's where the problems seem to be. These problems can be fixed on the fly so outside of a major inconvenience for a few unlucky owners, the rest of us should be good to go. Folks who buy the first several thousand of any vehicle should get rebates for being beta testers. If a new problem crops up, ya get it fixed and a check for your time. Ain't gonna happen but I like the idea. ;)

  • jd10013jd10013 Member Posts: 779
    My guess would be most of the problems are probably in assembly, not design. getting the assembly plants to correctly asseble a car to specs for the fist time has got to be a challenge.
  • factionfaction Member Posts: 9
    I had this problem.
    My invoice states that "ignition relay in IPDM E/R was not fully seated." They fully seated it.
    Then it says "Found intermittent NATS malfunction code P1615. Replaced BCM, reprogrammed keys."

    I don't know if that last bit has anything to do with the first bit, but there you go.

    oh--parts--FP number 284B1, controller assy (if that is any help)

    I also had a bad battery which they replaced at the same time.

    Car worked fine after that, but now I have noticed that you have to crank it just a little harder than usual to get it to start. Might this just be related to usual wear?? I'm going to ask them next time I go in for an oil change.
  • factionfaction Member Posts: 9
    Weird. I use 10% ethanol all the time and haven't had any problems. At least that I have noticed.

    Are your problems like "have to crank it to start" problems or something else?
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Member Posts: 504
    The rest of the vehicle is new

    Not quite. The Versa, or Tiida in many parts of the world, was first released in September 2004. It's only a new model in North America.

    What's new is the assembly line for the Versa in Mexico. The plant has been there awhile, but the line is new.
  • bikedorianbikedorian Member Posts: 48
    Quite. The engine and much of the electronics are brand spankin new. That's pretty much "the rest of the vehicle" in my book. YMMV.

  • streakerstreaker Member Posts: 5

    I guess I never responded to this message from February 2007, My cars problem is that after driving my Versa and then parking it, the car won't easily start occasionally. The engine won't turn over without trying for five minutes or so. I have had no problems like this since going to only ethanol free gas. My car was checked out recently and they found no problems. The manual mentions that you can try up to 10 percent ethanol but if it has a problem with "warm starts" (car engine has been recently used and is still warm but it won't easily start) then go back to regular gas. This is exactly what happens to me with ethanol in the tank. Nobody else has experienced this??? Obviously, Nissan technicians are familiar with this problem. I wonder why I am the only one who seems to experience this?
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  • versaxxxversaxxx Member Posts: 1
    I have had my Versa since March. Have had the fuel pump replaced once already. They are picking it up tomorrow to replace it again. It will crank and crank and not start for a while. The mechanic (the first time) told me to turn the key just a little (to where the lights come on) for about 30 seconds. Sometimes it helped, sometimes it didn't. They said it wasn't getting the burst of fuel to the engine to start the car. I like the car but it has been in the shop more than I have driven it. The people at the dealership know me well and I know almost everyone's name. I don't want to know them...I just want to come in for my oil change and go. It had problems with starts in the sun and "cold" starts where it sat overnight. I had to wait 2 months because the first pump was on backorder. By that time the problem was so bad it would hardly start at all. I have no idea how long it will be until I see my car again. I should have stuck with Toyota.
  • jd10013jd10013 Member Posts: 779
    It sounds a lot like deposits on the valves. when carbon builds up on the valves (usually caused by driving a very short distance (like moving it) and then letting it sit, the valves cann't properly seat. If the valves arn't seating properly, you won't get enough compression to keep the engine running. It could very well be poor quality gas, ethanol blend, fuel filter, or something like that. If it eventualy starts after holding the gas peddal in while cranking it for 30 or so seconds, then that probably your problem. the reason it will start after cranking it for awhile is because the valves (while moving) will knock off the carbon deposits.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAMember Posts: 9,399
    I'd tend to agree, it sounds like the fuel pump really wasn't the issue. The symptoms make the fuel pump a candidate for the cause, but not the only candidate.

    I recently had a wheel bearing replaced on an Altima, and the new bearing completely failed inside of 90 days under normal driving conditions. Bad part so it was replaced, but if the replacement fails, I'd have to start looking elsewhere for the cause.
    Even if I assume the parts are ROTTEN and fail 5% of the time (a ridiculously high figure, but it will illustrate my point), if I put a second part in and it also fails or doesn't correct the problem, the chances of me having gotten two bad parts in a row is down to one quarter of one percent. (0.25%) Something else HAS to be causing the problem. Throwing another of the same part at it isn't likely to solve things in my view.

    The fuel pump would have been the easy fix, if it had worked. Just like putting more air in a low tire is the first, easy try. Then the tire goes low again and you check for leaks in the tire, or the valve stem, or at the seal to the rim. Sounds like some more detective work is going to be needed.
  • jujubeejujubee Member Posts: 2
    I purchased my 2007 Vesa (liftback SL auto w/ CVT) 2 months ago, it now has 2,000 miles on it. I took it to the dealership last weekend to check the brakes because i am experiencing an abrupt hesitation (or maybe downshift?) @ appx 10 mph when i apply the brakes & reduce speed. I was told there is nothing wrong. Immediately after picking it up from the service dept (right @ closing time) I noticed the engine (transmission?) making a loud clicking sound, almost like a "sparking" sound. It happens when i shift gears, accelerate, brake & even randomly when driving. I am also hearing a loud "singing" noise when the car/rpms slow down. Does anyone know what these issues might be? I'm almost scared to drive it, but cant get to the dealer til Sat because of jury duty! Any suggestions would be so helpful, i always feel SO apprehensive having to go back to the dealership. I really want to like my Versa, but these issues as well other minor problems are quicky turning me off. Already thinking about unloading this car... :confuse: ">
  • jenvjenv Member Posts: 1
    In early August, I purchased a new 2007 Versa. Since the time of purchase (starting when I drove it off the lot to take home), I have experienced frequent problems with starting the vehicle. When I turn the key, the vehicle frequently cranks for 5+ seconds. Sometimes the vehicle will then start, and sometimes it will just die. This does not happen every time that I start the vehicle, and I have not been able to detect any pattern to help indicate when this will happen, though it generally does not happen when I first start it in the morning.

    I took the vehicle back to the dealership twice for service so far. The first time they said that they found that the negative battery terminal was loose, and this was causing the problem. They tightened it and said it should be fine. The problem then happened again the next day (and again about 5 or six times over the course of the following week). When I brought it in again, they said that they were unable to duplicate the problem and thus could not do anything about it. I left the vehicle there for three days, and finally Nissan Technical Services instructed them to order a fuel pump to see if that resolves the issue. It has been three weeks now, and I'm still waiting on the fuel pump...

    The worst part of this (besides having such problems with a new car) is that the service technician had a "there's nothing we can do" attitude about it. He said that it was the first that he had heard of the problem and seemed like he did not believe that it was occurring because he could not duplicate it. I located various accounts on the Internet of other Versa owners with similar problems, and I printed and brought them to the dealership. The service tech then said that they were not helpful because they only mentioned problems, not solutions. As ridiculous as this is, I have actually started filming the process of starting my car to document the problem.

    I have submitted a complaint through the website for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's Office of Defects Investigation:

    I recommend that anyone else experiencing problems with their new Versas do the same. If they receive enough complaints, maybe Nissan will start giving a crap. I should have bought the Honda fit. :lemon:
  • w00000tw00000t Member Posts: 23
    Does anyone know if this CAM in the engine is belt driven, chain, or gears? If it is belt driven, would it be possible and not too painful to replace it with a chain? Thanks
  • rags2rags2 Member Posts: 4
  • w00000tw00000t Member Posts: 23
    Yeah i went and looked at one this ssaturday theyre chains. thanks
  • 4ntonio4ntonio Member Posts: 2
    Not sure if this is an "engine" question but here goes...

    Just this afternoon, I discovered that I cannot go above a certain speed. I could press hard on the gas pedal (even floor it), but once it reaches a certain speed, all I hear is increased engine(?)/rev(?) noise but I don't get an increase in car speed. The RPM gauge seems also to waver around "2"... never really going above it even I press harder on the pedal. The needle sometimes even dips slightly when I'm pressing on the pedal.

    Is there something wrong with my car (S, manual, ABS)? Bought it less than a month ago with only 300 miles on it. No CVT.

    Thanks so much for responding~

    P.S. Is the RPM gauge supposed to be around "1" even when the car's not moving, e.g., in front of a red light? It doesn't go back down to "O" unless I turn off the engine.

    P.S.S. I apologize for my limited vocab on these things. First-time driver. =)

    P.S.S.S. I tried switching it to "Neutral" and flooring it, and then back to "Drive" in an attempt to fix it. No can do.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAMember Posts: 9,399
    You didn't say what the "certain speed" was.
  • 4ntonio4ntonio Member Posts: 2
    I seem to have trouble getting above 40 mph.

    Anything above and I hear a loud spinning/whirring sound, but the car barely moves faster.
  • samncsamnc Member Posts: 44
    I own this car for almost 2 months now and I have about 3300 miles on it. Whilst the mpg has slightly improved, the accerleration from 20 to 50 mph is still very sluggish. The revs are normally in the high 2000 revs and low 3000revs when I try to accerlerate, the transmission seems disengaged, the engine in high revs, the gears then falls back to lower gear. It happens when it is climbing upslopes or accelerating between 20 to 50 mphs on flat terains. Anyone has similar problems?
  • jd10013jd10013 Member Posts: 779
    deffinitly something wrong. Not sure what, but I'd guess its either in the transmission, or possibly the ecm. at any rate, get it back to the dealer.
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