@kyfdx said:
The money factor they provide is marked up the maximum from the base MF (.00042 markup)
The calculation looks to be exact.
The money factor markup adds $39/mo. to the 24 month payment
$488 looks great for a 24-month payment, but $450/mo would look better.
Also, I deleted your attachment, as it has personal information (name, address, etc) on it.
Oops thanks for that! I see, is it worth to try to negotiate more off the OTD price or the money factor or both? That was them just giving me first take I didn’t bother negotiating.
The money factor they provide is marked up the maximum from the base MF (.00042 markup)
The calculation looks to be exact.
The money factor markup adds $39/mo. to the 24 month payment
$488 looks great for a 24-month payment, but $450/mo would look better.
Also, I deleted your attachment, as it has personal information (name, address, etc) on it.
Oops thanks for that! I see, is it worth to try to negotiate more off the OTD price or the money factor or both? That was them just giving me first take I didn’t bother negotiating.
I'd try to do both.. But, $450/mo, with ZERO out of pocket would be a great payment for a $60K Jeep.
Is it possible to get MF and residual numbers on (all 4 door) Sahara 4xe, Rubicon 4xe and Rubicon X 4xe, 24 and 36 months 7500 and 10k miles in 34711? Prefer zero money down, as low DAS as possible.
Would like to pull the trigger today but these folks are being a little crazy.
Sorry I’m new to leasing but would I just do another 2 years lease when the time is up or what would be the best course of action in 2 years?
Just depends on the market at the time. It won't be any different than if your lease comes up in 3 years. You'll have to make a decision based on your needs.
But, if the 24 month payment is better now, it will drop faster than the 36 month payment, for every dollar you negotiate lower. So, if you can negotiate a better deal, it will have a greater effect on the 24 month payment.
Is it possible to get MF and residual numbers on (all 4 door) Sahara 4xe, Rubicon 4xe and Rubicon X 4xe, 24 and 36 months 7500 and 10k miles in 34711? Prefer zero money down, as low DAS as possible.
Would like to pull the trigger today but these folks are being a little crazy.
SAH 24/10 - .00028 MF and 63% RV 36/10 - .00041 MF and 53% RV
RUB/RUB X .00071 MF and 64% RV .00148 MF and 58% RV
@Michaell said:
SAH
24/10 - .00028 MF and 63% RV
36/10 - .00041 MF and 53% RV
RUB/RUB X
.00071 MF and 64% RV
.00148 MF and 58% RV
$10,500 incentives
Thank you so much! I wasn’t sure if all the MF and incentives were the same in FL as it’s something here, lol. Looks like 24 is the way to go.
Stupid question but are the incentives stackable on what they are already taking off? (Meaning they’re obviously already taking off a percentage of MSRP to get rid of these…)
Thank you so much! I wasn’t sure if all the MF and incentives were the same in FL as it’s something here, lol. Looks like 24 is the way to go.
Stupid question but are the incentives stackable on what they are already taking off? (Meaning they’re obviously already taking off a percentage of MSRP to get rid of these…)
Yes, the incentives are applied after you've negotiated your best discount from MSRP.
Hello! So awesome that you're out here providing this information! I'm negotiating a 24 Willys 4 Door with a dealer Florida 32080. I'm happy with the discount they've offered off MSRP but when they met my discount request they bumped the residual value down by 3% because "someone made a mistake". Just checking for rates and residuals for 24 / 10 and 36 / 10 to see if they are BSing me. Thanks.
Hello! So awesome that you're out here providing this information! I'm negotiating a 24 Willys 4 Door with a dealer Florida 32080. I'm happy with the discount they've offered off MSRP but when they met my discount request they bumped the residual value down by 3% because "someone made a mistake". Just checking for rates and residuals for 24 / 10 and 36 / 10 to see if they are BSing me. Thanks.
This was the most recent reply from the local stealer "Our best numbers Because it's a lease we lose 3750 incentives from chrysler" (Left all misspellings for accuracy.)
then they proceeded to offer this pure nonsense. Enjoy:
I guess they want to carry all their 2024s into 2025. Best wishes to them, lol!
Hello! So awesome that you're out here providing this information! I'm negotiating a 24 Willys 4 Door with a dealer Florida 32080. I'm happy with the discount they've offered off MSRP but when they met my discount request they bumped the residual value down by 3% because "someone made a mistake". Just checking for rates and residuals for 24 / 10 and 36 / 10 to see if they are BSing me. Thanks.
Actually just spotted that someone asked this exact question for the zip code right next door to mine a few days ago. Looks like the second, updated residual they gave me was the accurate one.
Hello! So awesome that you're out here providing this information! I'm negotiating a 24 Willys 4 Door with a dealer Florida 32080. I'm happy with the discount they've offered off MSRP but when they met my discount request they bumped the residual value down by 3% because "someone made a mistake". Just checking for rates and residuals for 24 / 10 and 36 / 10 to see if they are BSing me. Thanks.
Actually just spotted that someone asked this exact question for the zip code right next door to mine a few days ago. Looks like the second, updated residual they gave me was the accurate one.
This was the most recent reply from the local stealer "Our best numbers Because it's a lease we lose 3750 incentives from chrysler" (Left all misspellings for accuracy.)
then they proceeded to offer this pure nonsense. Enjoy:
I guess they want to carry all their 2024s into 2025. Best wishes to them, lol!
Oh that ship absolutely sailed. I was giving this guy the benefit of the doubt. I shouldn't have, lol. That's some BMW/Mercedes money they are asking for. LOL
@Michaell said:
How much is due at signing for each of these quotes?
On the surface, the second quote is better - bigger discount from sticker, and $400+ saved in payments over the lease term.
It should be $0. I’m currently trying to negotiate the dealer with the lower MF to give me a higher discount and make the deal, but just in case they don’t budge I’m trying to see what other people thought of the 2 options. The higher MSRP has the tech package but don’t know if it’s even worth it.
How much is due at signing for each of these quotes?
On the surface, the second quote is better - bigger discount from sticker, and $400+ saved in payments over the lease term.
It should be $0. I’m currently trying to negotiate the dealer with the lower MF to give me a higher discount and make the deal, but just in case they don’t budge I’m trying to see what other people thought of the 2 options. The higher MSRP has the tech package but don’t know if it’s even worth it.
.00020 MF and 64% RV
Yes, the MF is marked up on the second quote, but that's offset by the bigger discount.
I'd ask them what the adjusted cap cost is for their quotes, and how they arrived at that number from the selling price - could be some room to improve the payment there, as well.
Looking for MF/ RV on a 2024 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Willys, zip code 90503. More specifically have always owned in the past, and this would be my first Jeep. End of the year deal, so trying to figure out if I want to lease vs buying a 2022. Terms of the lease I was looking at are 3000 down, 189 month, 24/10k. Any advice appreciated.
Looking for MF/ RV on a 2024 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Willys, zip code 90503. More specifically have always owned in the past, and this would be my first Jeep. End of the year deal, so trying to figure out if I want to lease vs buying a 2022. Terms of the lease I was looking at are 3000 down, 189 month, 24/10k. Any advice appreciated.
.00020 MF and 65% RV $10,500 incentives
$3K down, plus first payment, taxes and fees, or $3K total due at signing?
Looking for MF/ RV on a 2024 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Willys, zip code 90503. More specifically have always owned in the past, and this would be my first Jeep. End of the year deal, so trying to figure out if I want to lease vs buying a 2022. Terms of the lease I was looking at are 3000 down, 189 month, 24/10k. Any advice appreciated.
.00020 MF and 65% RV $10,500 incentives
$3K down, plus first payment, taxes and fees, or $3K total due at signing?
Thanks for the quick reply on a Holiday! Not sure yet on your questions on if its just the 3k up front or not. Talking to them in the morning for the details.
Happy holidays! Looking for MF/ RV on a 2024 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Rubicon X, zip code 06880. I'm signed up for the FCA affiliate program and should be able to get 1% below dealer invoice - would it be better to hold onto that card or use it from the start for negotiations?
Happy holidays! Looking for MF/ RV on a 2024 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Rubicon X, zip code 06880. I'm signed up for the FCA affiliate program and should be able to get 1% below dealer invoice - would it be better to hold onto that card or use it from the start for negotiations?
What term and mileage allowance?
Sorry, no info or experience with the affiliate program.
Happy holidays! Looking for MF/ RV on a 2024 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Rubicon X, zip code 06880. I'm signed up for the FCA affiliate program and should be able to get 1% below dealer invoice - would it be better to hold onto that card or use it from the start for negotiations?
What term and mileage allowance?
Sorry, no info or experience with the affiliate program.
Sorry - knew I was forgetting something! 36 month / 10k miles. Looking to put down about $5000 plus first month/tax/extras.
Happy holidays! Looking for MF/ RV on a 2024 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Rubicon X, zip code 06880. I'm signed up for the FCA affiliate program and should be able to get 1% below dealer invoice - would it be better to hold onto that card or use it from the start for negotiations?
What term and mileage allowance?
Sorry, no info or experience with the affiliate program.
Sorry - knew I was forgetting something! 36 month / 10k miles. Looking to put down about $5000 plus first month/tax/extras.
.00071 MF and 64% residual $10,500 incentive
I wouldn't put anything upfront, other than the first payment.
Trying to understand if this is a decent deal. Looking for room to take down the downpayment without increasing the monthly payments. Any advice would be helpful. It's a '24 Wrangler Sahara 4xe with a few added extras.
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.00028 MF and 63% residual
.00041 MF and 53% residual
Sport S
.00046 MF and 64%
.00129 MF and 57%
Willys
.00020 MF and 65%
.00036 MF and 55%
$10,500 incentive
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.00028 MF and 63% residual
.00041 MF and 53% residual
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.00046 MF and 64%
.00129 MF and 57%
$10,500 incentive
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‘24 Sahara MSRP $58xxx what would you expect dealer discount to be, currently they are advertising 5.7% before mfg incentives.
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.00041 MF and 52% residual
Sport S
.00129 MF and 56%
Willys
.00036 MF and 54%
$8000 incentive
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4xE 4 door 2024 Willys and Rubicon 36/12 in 92843/90815. Are calculations with zero down?
I attached photo of what dealer offered me for Willys 4xE, zero money down.
The calculation looks to be exact.
The money factor markup adds $39/mo. to the 24 month payment
$488 looks great for a 24-month payment, but $450/mo would look better.
Also, I deleted your attachment, as it has personal information (name, address, etc) on it.
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Oops thanks for that! I see, is it worth to try to negotiate more off the OTD price or the money factor or both? That was them just giving me first take I didn’t bother negotiating.
Oops thanks for that! I see, is it worth to try to negotiate more off the OTD price or the money factor or both? That was them just giving me first take I didn’t bother negotiating.
I'd try to do both.. But, $450/mo, with ZERO out of pocket would be a great payment for a $60K Jeep.
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So is the 36 month option not worth it?
So is the 36 month option not worth it?
You saw the numbers, right?
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Sorry I’m new to leasing but would I just do another 2 years lease when the time is up or what would be the best course of action in 2 years?
Is it possible to get MF and residual numbers on (all 4 door) Sahara 4xe, Rubicon 4xe and Rubicon X 4xe, 24 and 36 months 7500 and 10k miles in 34711? Prefer zero money down, as low DAS as possible.
Would like to pull the trigger today but these folks are being a little crazy.
Sorry I’m new to leasing but would I just do another 2 years lease when the time is up or what would be the best course of action in 2 years?
Just depends on the market at the time. It won't be any different than if your lease comes up in 3 years. You'll have to make a decision based on your needs.
But, if the 24 month payment is better now, it will drop faster than the 36 month payment, for every dollar you negotiate lower. So, if you can negotiate a better deal, it will have a greater effect on the 24 month payment.
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24/10 - .00028 MF and 63% RV
36/10 - .00041 MF and 53% RV
RUB/RUB X
.00071 MF and 64% RV
.00148 MF and 58% RV
$10,500 incentives
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Thank you so much! I wasn’t sure if all the MF and incentives were the same in FL as it’s something here, lol. Looks like 24 is the way to go.
Stupid question but are the incentives stackable on what they are already taking off? (Meaning they’re obviously already taking off a percentage of MSRP to get rid of these…)
Thank you so much! I wasn’t sure if all the MF and incentives were the same in FL as it’s something here, lol. Looks like 24 is the way to go.
Stupid question but are the incentives stackable on what they are already taking off? (Meaning they’re obviously already taking off a percentage of MSRP to get rid of these…)
Yes, the incentives are applied after you've negotiated your best discount from MSRP.
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(Left all misspellings for accuracy.)
then they proceeded to offer this pure nonsense. Enjoy:
I guess they want to carry all their 2024s into 2025. Best wishes to them, lol!
.00350 MF and 75% residual
36/10
.00327 MF and 67% residual
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Which deal would be better 92843. Both have $10,500 rebate.
$64,600 MSRP 2024 Willys 4xe - 24/12, 0 down, 0.0002 MF, 64% residual - $550 a month - $4,000 discount
$63,000 MSRP 2024 Willys 4xe - 24/12, 0 down, 0.00062 MF, 64% residual - $529 a month - $5,200 discount
Thank you for your help!
On the surface, the second quote is better - bigger discount from sticker, and $400+ saved in payments over the lease term.
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It should be $0. I’m currently trying to negotiate the dealer with the lower MF to give me a higher discount and make the deal, but just in case they don’t budge I’m trying to see what other people thought of the 2 options. The higher MSRP has the tech package but don’t know if it’s even worth it.
It should be $0. I’m currently trying to negotiate the dealer with the lower MF to give me a higher discount and make the deal, but just in case they don’t budge I’m trying to see what other people thought of the 2 options. The higher MSRP has the tech package but don’t know if it’s even worth it.
.00020 MF and 64% RV
Yes, the MF is marked up on the second quote, but that's offset by the bigger discount.
I'd ask them what the adjusted cap cost is for their quotes, and how they arrived at that number from the selling price - could be some room to improve the payment there, as well.
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Can I please get MF/Res/Incentives for 2024 Rubicon 4xE 24/12 in 92843 $0 down.
$10,500 incentives
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$10,500 incentives
$3K down, plus first payment, taxes and fees, or $3K total due at signing?
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$10,500 incentive
I wouldn't put anything upfront, other than the first payment.
The money factor is cheap
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Can I have the MF/RV/incentives for a Willys 24/10 and 24/12 in 11375?
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4XE (4-door)
.00020 MF and 64% residual
$10,500 incentive
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It's a '24 Wrangler Sahara 4xe with a few added extras.
Residual and mf for a Sahara 4xe for 24/10 zip 27592