Toyota Highlander

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  • svec7186svec7186 Member Posts: 56
    so far the best site to see dealer invoice/msrp prices is kbb.com. note that for many there is a missing fee "TDA (dealer advertising)" that is not included but is part of the invoice in any websites invoice/msrp breakdown.
  • devlopperdevlopper Member Posts: 44
    They were there, now they're gone. That means they were removed. What happened to them?
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    Sorry, but no. We can only order those colors that are available on a particular model. Have you seen the green, blue and red? At least those avoid the earth tones you dislike.
  • devlopperdevlopper Member Posts: 44
    Anyone from the Twin City MN area buy one of these Highlanders? Could you share the price vs. MSRP and the dealer with us? Thanks!
  • sctangsctang Member Posts: 6
    I'm not in the Twin Cities but am in Wisconsin about three hours away. We only have one Toyota dealer here so initially they weren't willing to discount at all off MRSP. I got a quote from autobytel and our local dealer decided to match and not lose the sale.

    I ordered a V6 AWD Highlander with the following options:

    Side airbags BE
    Carpet/Cargo Mat set CF
    Premium 3 in 1 audio with CD EJ
    Cargo Net GN
    Driver and Passenger Seat Heater HD
    Hood Protector HP
    Leather LA
    Limited LL
    Center Console Box SK
    Sunroof SR
    Vehicle Skid Control VD

    All for $33,101, invoice $30,400 and MSRP $34,948. I probably could have done better but I received a pretty reasonable trade-in price for my '92 4Runner so I'm happy and the dealer's happy.

    Hope this helps. Good luck!!
  • john_lisejohn_lise Member Posts: 22
    I went to test drive the HL today with my wife. For our purposes it seems to be the best buy (Acura Dealer won't budge on MDX MSRP, only one dealership in town go figure!). We live in Nova Scotia, Canada (only two local Toyota Dealers around). The Limited HL, V6 AWD, MSRP: $36100 with the only B package option available (basically totally loaded):$9200. Total is 45300 + $1200 for Dealer PDI and Freight. This $1200 I know is waaaay too much! Toyota/Lexus include PDI in their MSRP. I know that freight is $475, air condition tax is $100, tire tax is $15, therefore the other $610 I believe is a money grab. any comments?

    Has anyone out there in "Town Hall" land purchased an HL in Canada for under MSRP? Does anyone know the Invoice Cost of a HL V6 AWD (Cdn version). Any suggestions from anyone would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks to all!!!
  • 00san00san Member Posts: 14
    I got $1800(can $) off MSRP on limited in Toronto. I was surprised. I think that the big jump in price from the basic v6 to the limited package ($9200) must be hurting sales for the higher end model.

    Good luck!
  • ahossaahossa Member Posts: 152
    I saw tonite during "who wants to be a millionare" a Toyota commercial stating that they are offer deals on all SUVs including Sequoia and Highlander this week-end thru Presidents day.They did not disclose a dollar amount but at least Toyota is offering incentives to the dealers. I guess Toyota just priced those 2 SUVs way too high. The HL is great but not at $35K. I would suggest resist Msrp.Corporate Toyota has got the message, let's see if the dealers will go along. I stopped in at 3 dealers in Queens County(next to Manhattan) today and they all had HLs on their lots and available for immediate delivery.The 2 Suvs are priced between $7,000 to $10,000 ABOVE THEIR NEAREST COMPETITORS.It's the dealers that are greedy. Toyota monitors this site so if you continue to resist paying full price we all will end up getting better deals. If you track the MDX site you will notice now that few dealers are getting above Msrp.Folks are waiting on their turn or buying other SUVs so the dealers are forced not to overcharge.
  • pchiupchiu Member Posts: 72
    I'm in Toronto and is watching the price for Limited, as you know we need the traction and side skid control. But Cad$3600 + $9200 (Limited) is way too much for me. So can you tell me which dealer and maybe the saleman that willing to deal ?
    Hope we will have more information in Toronto.
    Thanks
  • bironbbironb Member Posts: 63
    I find that the Highlander at $36,100 is overpriced for normal standard features that are missing (alloy wheels, tonneau cover, centre console) let alone the extra cost of the Limited PK. The only dealer that had a base Highlander at the moment would not go below M.S.R.P. Personally I think that Toyota Canada is overestimating what people are willing to pay for a Highlander, there is a lot of competition out there.

    Ottawa
  • dianne4toyotadianne4toyota Member Posts: 343
    The commercials are just that: commercials, and hype. There wasn't an incentive to the dealer on Sequoia or Highlander.

    Invoice knows no date, week, or even month. I see the "hype" on TV all the time and to me, it's the double-edged sword. They want to bring the people on "holiday" into showrooms and hope they buy something. The incentives, if you listen carefully to the ad, is rebates on Camry, Corolla, and large rebates on remaining 2000 4Runners. At least it's like that in my region in SoCal.

    Dianne
  • da67da67 Member Posts: 1
    Do they make the 4 cylinder with side air bags and can you get the v6 without the limited package with airbags. (I can only seem to find fully loaded HLs with the side air bag option)

    My apologies if this has already been discussed.
    thanks
    Dan
  • deerlake7deerlake7 Member Posts: 176
    I picked up my Highlander V6/AWD today and, overall, I'm pleased. dichelle, I ordered mine with exactly what I wanted, VSC, side air bags, sunroof, some other assorted things, with CLOTH SEATS and no luxury package. The vehicle was dropped at the dealer 26 days after I ordered it! As I understand it from the general sales manager, there is a "window" of time between when a dealer is allocated a specific vehicle and when it's built where you can change options (but not color). In my case, I gave my dealer our top three color choices and he looked through his allocated list, found one in the color we wanted and changed the options. As it turned out, we also received our top color choice. Cliffy, you were "right on" in regards to the tire pressure issue. As I drove it away, it felt like there were rocks for springs. I checked the tire pressure and there was 42 psi in them when they're suppose to have 30. As soon as that was taken care of, all was well. In our case, it was down to the Highlander or the 2002 GMC Envoy. Although the Envoy's new 270 HP, 4.2 litre I6 sounded great, for safety, I liked the Highlander's lower center of gravity and VSC system. Last week, we had a fairly typical snow storm and there were 60 rollovers reported, most of them SUV's. It sounds like if you can keep your vehicle from sliding into the side of the road, an SUV should be no problem. Before I drove it, the MDX was also on my list. I liked its engine/transmission and the larger cargo area, but I found the handling ponderous and not nearly as sharp as the Highlander. I also found that each of the three MDX's I drove were full of creaks and squeaks, while the Highlander's were rock solid. Finally, because we didn't want leather, plus the discount off of MSRP and the much better trade in value I received, the Highlander was $7500 less expensive. In regards to the RX 300, it's different strokes for different folks. Although the RX has more "class," I liked the Highlander's driving experience much better. To me, the RX has a "wallowly" and disconnected from the road ride and handling. The Highlander, on the other hand, to me, has handling which is much more responsive and secure. Tomorrow, I'm taking it on a bit of a road trip, so I'll have chance to run it through its paces.
  • michanthmichanth Member Posts: 38
    I know it been said before but is the VCS option available with the 2wd Highlander? I looked on the Toyota web site and it seems to indicate the VCS is only available with the AWD platform.

    All Help is Appreciated
    Thanks
    Michael
  • wd5938wd5938 Member Posts: 19
    I am interested in purchasing a Highlander, but I would like to know how well they do in snow. I have always had 4WD vehicles (Jeep Selec-Trac) and wonder how well the Highlander's AWD system handles deep snow, especially on steep hills. Also, how does it compare to 4WD. I'm sure someone out there has had the opportunity to drive their Highlander in snow. Thanks.
  • dianne4toyotadianne4toyota Member Posts: 343
    In Southern CA, the way you describe the cars, you cannot have it that way. All Limiteds right now have the side airbags (and leather as well) but w/o LL and LA, no BE!

    The 4cyl is the "price point car" so there is no real extra stuff lopped atop them. Here in CA, they are very basic with 4cyls: DR UZ QO CF with an MSRP at 25015. I set a page up on my website for viewing colors, and equipment levels for "normal" cars brought in, so you may want to email me for that link? It may help you see how the cars are actually built if you are in CA or west coast.

    Di
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  • mkstringmkstring Member Posts: 53
    It's a sob story - we crashed on the way HOME from the dealer. Swerved to miss a LARGE tire tread on the Houston Tollway and the HL fishtailed on me, and we found up hitting the concrete barriers on the inside of the tollway. Had the thing around about 45 degrees (judging by the damage on the front bumper), steering into the skid, and hitting the sides finally righted us. Needless to say, next time I'm running over whatever's in the road.

    Damage to front fender, back fender, back drivers' taillight assembly, and rear driver's side rim. Back driver's quarterpanel had a dent in it too.

    Some points - one, at no time did I feel like the HL was going to roll (hooray for stabilizer bars). And, for starting this at almost 70 MPH, the HL fared exceptionally well. The driver's side doors didn't even have a scratch on them, and I had thought I bent some of the suspension, but later discovered it was probably only the rim. I'm used to mid-size cars (we traded our 98 Accord in on it) and the thing drives great, but I oversteered by underestimating the extra mass of the HL. Ah, unexperience rears it's ugly head (i'm 28) - I'm just not used to SUVs.

    It's a sad story, but we're even more convinced that we hade a good choice for the safety of the family. We loved the vehicle in the 2 day review, and we're anxious to get it back. After leaving Toyota ownership in 97 for my Accord, I'm glad I came back :).

    We got a HL base, 4wd, daytime lamps, V6, security. Security note: the panic button on the remote reached OVER 100' away - we found the vehicle in the back of the bady shop lot with it - and it was a huge lot. Way to go Toyota - let's see Honda keep up with this.

    Note on price: Houston's selling them well. No discount off MSRP around here.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    congratulations on the HL purchase. You really lucked out it seems. I do want to comment on one issue though and it means you were luckier than you think. These things are built in Japan and we can't change factory options on them. Your region must have ordered the HL with the exact factory equipment you were looking for.

    The window of opportunity your dealer talked about is for the port options. Things like the floor mats, gold package and floor mats can be added or deleted before they reach the port. That window of opportunity is about 3 to 4 weeks from the day it is allocated, which falls right into line with what you were told.

    If I could order the HL with VSC, side bags and a roof but without the LL package, I would be extatic. I have three customers waiting such such vehicles but I can't get them. Avoiding the leather is easy, but the Limited package isn't.

    Enjoy the ride.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    Bummer. Big bummer, but I'm glad to hear you made it through unscathed.
  • pkdlpkdl Member Posts: 10
    How much time would you figure for a car to get from the factory to a dealer via one of the east coast ports?

    And I'm still unclear about where the PIO options get added. Are they:
    1 - at the port in Japan?
    2 - on the boat, during the trip?
    3 - at the port in the US?
    4 - some combination?

    thanks for any insight on this - I am trying to figure out how picky I want to be about colors and options.
  • dianne4toyotadianne4toyota Member Posts: 343
    Oh goodness, thank heavens you were OK! At 70mph, I'd hate to think we'd be mourning you today. It's good to hear that the car lived up to your expectations in crash. I am sorry you wrecked your brand new car though! :/

    Dianne
  • dianne4toyotadianne4toyota Member Posts: 343
    Port options are called PORT options.... guess why!!

    They are installed at the port.
    These are items like rear spoilers, floor mats, gold packages, glass breakage sensors, and center console.

    Di
  • alangotchialangotchi Member Posts: 5
    You mentioned your Highlander is a base WAD, I assume you don't have SC, just wonder if you have SC, maybe it can stop your skidding.
  • alangotchialangotchi Member Posts: 5
    the spelling check messed up my post,I meant AWD and VSC
  • pkdlpkdl Member Posts: 10
    Hey Dianne, I'm not just being dense on the PIO thing. I found a previous answer of yours not completely clear, because it seemed to say that the options were already on the car when it landed at the port. Based on a question, it seemed maybe you meant 'land' to be the dealership, but then in post cliffy1 Feb 17, 2001 7:55am cliffy1 said that "The window of opportunity your dealer talked about is for the port options. Things like the floor mats, gold package and floor mats can be added or deleted before they reach the port" note the "before they reach the port" part. So - I asked for clarification.

    In order to minimize any forum churn on this, let's figure that all PIO options are installed at the US port after they are driven off of the boat. And that means that what cliffy1 was saying was that options had to be "added to the list of PIO options" before the car was driven off. If that's incorrect, then please clarify.

    I'm still curious how long the pipeline from factory to dealer is....
  • dianne4toyotadianne4toyota Member Posts: 343
    on the cars from Japan are the non PIO items...
    items that are NOT rear spoiler (unless the car is a Limited), the glass breakage sensor, mats, center armrest, gold package, cargo net, that sort of list of incidentals. I hope that helps!

    Cliffy's description was right... your dealer swapped to get a car (or requested a car) that was exactly in their build-mix, and simply PIO'd it for you the way you wanted it. I do it all the time. A build-order is way longer than 26 days on a Japanese built car.

    Dianne
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    First, I'm glad you and others are okay.

    Second, as another poster has asked, did your vehicle come equipped with VSC (Toyota's version of a stability control system)?

    VSC isn't a panacea, e.g. it won't help much when the tires can't get enough traction. But it can definitely help prevent skids that result from some tires (not all) losing traction, and from skids that result from emergency maneuvers such as the one you described.
  • deerlake7deerlake7 Member Posts: 176
    First off, I don't know all that happened behind the scenes, but, indeed, I received my Highlander 26 days after I ordered it and it's exactly as I wanted. Perhaps sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. I just returned from picking up our daughter at college, so it gave me a couple of hours behind the wheel. Overall, it's a solid and secure SUV and it delivers all it promises. On the other hand, I find it ironic that Toyota builds such great products, but sometimes falls down on the little details. Things like having a hood prop rod, as opposed to gas struts to hold up the hood, or having a whimpy sounding single horn, as opposed to dual horns, or not having doors that lock automatically are some of the little things that seem to be missing. Tomorrow, I'll be interested in my wife's reaction after she takes our daughter back to school. Although I believe the Highlander is the best SUV for us, for me, the SUV driving experience just cannot compete with my Passat. Why the SUV? It was time to say aloha to our Chrysler minivan (and Chrysler in general) and my wife insisted on something that sits higher than a passenger car and we're out of the minivan stage. On the other hand, we're heading for our lake home next week for some cross country skiing and I'm anxious to try the Highlander in the snow.
  • hobie1981hobie1981 Member Posts: 23
    Yikes: Your pain is felt here in Cowhampshire. That said..at least you are okay. The HL can be fixed ..and if your not happy with the repair..sell the bad boy and get another. Hey interest rates could be down, selling prices likewise. I hit a car tire with my 4Runner a few years back while driving on I95 in VA. It was 4:30 am..and did'nt see it until it was too late. Yeah..you want to avoid hitting those rascals. Not a lot of fun, as the SUV went up on the left wheels...no damage... other than had alignment checked..but incident scared the bejesus out of me. Good luck with the repair and remember..its just a car..Much more important things in life......;-) Hobie 1981
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Kind of makes one wonder if that tire tread was a Firestone "alligator" doesn't it? Glad to hear you guys are ok, mkstring.

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  • osoriobosoriob Member Posts: 44
    We just purchased a new Highlander V6/4X2 with some options, price ended up at $28K, and here in California dealers are not taking anything less than MSRP, as a matter of fact some dealers are adding $1000-$2000 to the price. If you get to a dealer like that, tell them that you are not willing to pay,that extra amount, if they refuse to do business with you run as fast as you can, and get you vehicle somewhere else.
    As for the vehicle it is worth every penny, I think; you will get a smooth ride and Toyota legendary reliability ( a MUST on my LIST)plenty of power from the smooth reving V6 and awsome trasmission. is really as close as you will ever get to a LEXUS. I fell very good about the vehicle, even though I paid MSRP, but comparing to other vehicles of the same price range, toyota beats them hands down.
  • osoriobosoriob Member Posts: 44
    Does anyone know if the optional fog lights on the highlander are available for sale yet?

    and can anyone tell me if they can be installed by purchasing them as a KIT? (LIGHTS-Relay-Switch and wiring harness)
  • skyrebskyreb Member Posts: 129
    osoriob, I appreciate your post, and could not agree with you more. I have committed to one equiped just the way I want for just a few dollars below $30k. I am really anxiously looking forward to it's arrival.
    I responded to your post because you said something that I have questioned. You mentioned the "V6 and transmission are as close as you will ever get to the LEXUS." Somewhere I read the engine is the same as in the Lexus? Is that true? If it is, is the transmission also?
  • dianne4toyotadianne4toyota Member Posts: 343
    Not all dealers in CA are at MSRP. Although people in Northern CA have told me most are asking MSRP, and some, on Limiteds, want more (!!!) than MSRP, the truth is that it isn't that way everywhere.

    I just delivered four Limiteds in a row to folks in San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, and La Mesa for well under MSRP. If you hold your ground, you are able to do better, especially if you shop a little harder thru the 'net as well. I love the car, and think the world of its smoothness and Lexus-like demeanor, but it's not a "Limited" enough production car to maintain a MSRP price for very long. Just looking at things "historically", you know?

    Dianne
    dianne@earthlink.net
  • drew_drew_ Member Posts: 3,382
    William, it was a Base AWD Highlander V6 without the VSC. I think VSC would've almost definitely prevented the skid in this situation. It would have detected the rear end starting to slide out, and aggressively (because of the high speed) applied the brakes to the appropriate wheels to prevent it from spinning out. That said though, the actual speed was probably less than 70mph due to the tire scrub while going sideways.

    mkstring, the important thing is that you're okay. You may be interested in this video clip. It will illustrate the benefits of a stability control system (both understeer - plowing - or oversteer - fishtail - situations), such as VSC.

    Good luck...

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  • dar8dar8 Member Posts: 3
    I just got my Highlander Limited in Tor onto, Canada after 3 weeks of waiting with $1500 off from MSRP. I have a few questions:

    1. How many master key with remote do we get ? 2 or 3. I thought the salesman gave me 3 master keys with remote but when he took a master key and drove the L out of the parking lot to the main entrance of the store to hand me the L, he forgot to give me back the third master key.

    2. How to change the Trip Computer display from L/100 Am to MPG or hemp from I to I or vice verse ?
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    Agreed (that VSC would have likely prevented this situation; it's almost a textbook example). Hope this will help persuade some buyers still on the fence about getting the VSC features.

    Too bad Toyota didn't put a cut-off switch for those more unique situations where it may be desirable to stop throttle reduction -- can't be a cost issue, can it? Are there other stability-control-equipped vehicles that don't have a cut-off switch? Thanks.
  • drew_drew_ Member Posts: 3,382
    I think it's more of a "cover one's behind" legal issue actually. Perhaps Toyota feels the Highlander drivers could benefit from VSC at all times, whereas the Sequoia which can go off-road, could benefit from the kill switch (it still doesn't turn off the traction control torque reduction feature as it does in the MB vehicles though).

    The Subaru Outback H6 VDC does not have a cut-off switch. Many GM vehicles (ex. Olds Intrigue) with Stabillitrak do not have them either. GM's reason is exactly what I wrote above; drivers will benefit from it at all times. With the Subaru though, the 4 wheel traction control system activation threshold is quite a bit higher than with other competing vehicles; their superb AWD system is the first line of defence. As such, the lack of a kill switch is not nearly as crucial. Nonetheless, I did suggest it to the Subaru rep, who in turn passed it onto the Product planning department.


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  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    Interesting, thanks. As stability control will eventually become as commonplace as airbags in many vehicles, I guess the "cover your legal rear" is going to come up more and more. Sort of like the entire issue of being able to turn off one's airbag.
  • kazumikazumi Member Posts: 8
    Does anyone know what type of traction control is installed on the Highlander? Limited-slip differential, Brake system traction control or Drivetrain traction control. If you get the VSC option does that also mean that the engine will power both front wheels? Thanks
  • ajbshrewajbshrew Member Posts: 3
    Help me with the sanity check - I have now looked at every SUV on the Market - I am 99% sure that the Highlander ia the one for me - I am in Mass. and a Limited Package - V6, Sunroof, Leather, 6Disk CD, Console, and all the other options - I am going to pay about 35K - The dealers are no budging off MSRP and the vehicle is moving from the dealer lots within 24 hrs. - I know I am paying about 6K for options, and thats OK with me - I can't get an MDX for at least 8 months so that eliminates that option for me - Do you think this is a good move at 35K or am I crazy -
  • ajbshrewajbshrew Member Posts: 3
    Yes the engine will power both the front wheels as necessary - Thats the All Wheel Drive - I thin itr is limited slip -
  • hobie1981hobie1981 Member Posts: 23
    Hello..We live in same neck of the woods. Did you check with Boch Toyota...he was selling the HL at $1000 off MSRP. As of last week. His web site lists 6-7 HL in stock as of this AM. If you are gona do Lojack...your target price should be no higher than $400. They (Lojack) will soon be going to a GPS system ...course the dealer won't tell ya that..:-)Oh...I'd pass on the $100 lifetime warranty on the Lojack if your gonna get it. If you get the basic "retrieve" system (I) it's totally passive...I spoke a Lojack tech. doing an install, and he had never seen one fail in the 8 years he's been working for the company.

    Good Luck with your purchase...I havent seen any other HL out on the street. Need some company...
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Unless you need a new vehicle NOW—I would wait until the demand subsides a bit. As you're finding out, with the Highlander and MDX, it's a now a "seller's" market, not a "buyer's" market.

    The other option is searching internet sites for better deals. If they're available, you may have to travel to find the vehicle you want at the price you want.

    Have you considered an AWD Subaru LL Bean Outback H-6? They can be had, here in Maryland, for a bit over $27K. I know it's a wagon, and not an SUV; but it can do just about anything a Highlander can do.

    Check out the following URL. Besides Subarus, Fitzgerald also sells Toyotas and a number of other brands, and they do a lot of out-of-state business. It's worth a look. Their prices are excellent, at least for Subarus.

    http://www.fitzgeraldautomall.com/

    Bob
  • 00san00san Member Posts: 14
    Has anyone purchased a highlander in black? The most common colour seems to be beige and silver.
  • grplavloffgrplavloff Member Posts: 138
    "Agreed (that VSC would have likely prevented this situation; it's almost a textbook example). Hope this will help persuade some buyers still on the fence about getting the VSC features. "

    ... if people can find vehicles equipped with them. Toyota does not encourage custom orders and at the same time it doesn't seem to install VSC on very many of the HLs and Siennas that it advertises it for. I was interested in VSC for the Sienna I wanted to buy but of the 25-odd Siennas I saw in lots in my area, only one had VSC, and that one had it probably because it had virtually every other option possible as well.
  • wbarnettwbarnett Member Posts: 5
    I am confused about the National Advertising Fee that shows up on dealer invoices. When I look at the sites that supply invoice pricing, I find the destination charge, but not the advertising fee. At one such site, they say that they've built in the advertising fee at a national average, but
    their invoice prices for the base vehicle and options are identical to those at the other sites, so I don't understand what happened to the advertising fee; and some of the direct online buying sites appear not to charge it at all. But all dealers say that the national advertising fee appears on their invoice for every vehicle, and is paid by them to the manufacturer. So when they talk about what they are charging "over invoice" it always is relative to the invoice total including that advertising fee. I've looked at some online consumer auto buying advice sites, and some suggest resisting that advertising fee, and some say it's legitimate. Dealers say that they do not pass on to consumers their local advertising costs as a separate charge to consumers, only the national advertising fee that they pay to the manufacturer on the invoice. Does anyone have any views about this? At the very least, this practice seems to defeat the consumer's ability to go into a dealership with full knowledge of the invoice price of a vehicle, since there is one entry on the invoice that is unknown to us unless the dealer shows us the actual invoice.
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    Toyota does not encourage custom orders and at the same time it doesn't seem to install VSC on very many of the HLs and Siennas that it advertises it for.

    That's a shame. Not having been shopping Toyota lots, is it something that seems to be improving over time?
  • kazumikazumi Member Posts: 8
    Thanks for the reply, however does that also mean that if you only have a 2WD Highlander with VSD it will drive both wheels?
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    It is NOT a national fee which is why the invoice sites don't tell you the amount. It varies by region. Northern CA and New York seem to be the highest. Southern CA is the lowest I know of. We can't negotiate this fee with Toyota when we buy the vehicles and it is added to our invoice. In the Central Atlantic Region, we pay 2.1% of "net-net" invoice.
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