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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    Willcox, AZ, 87 no-lead will gouge you from $3.10/gal(lowest price)to $3.19/gal(highest price). This is the first time that I've been checking ghastly prices in this little cow town in AZ that I've noticed the lower price over $3.00/gal. Eeeks!

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  • Karen_SKaren_S Member Posts: 5,092
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  • odie6lodie6l Member Posts: 1,173
    this morning (9am) at the sunoco and turkey hill right near the med center (Hershey, PA) the 87 grade was $2.999. Then at 10am when I drove past, the gas was up to $3.099. I know we are not as high as most.. but OUCH. Even a proctologist will use KY once in awhile.

    Odie
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  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    ...and my usual Sunoco in Palisades Park reflects AAA's New Jersey average of $2.947 - every other state is over $3.

    87 - $2.959
    89 - $3.059
    91 - $3.119
    93 - $3.159
    diesel - $2.679

    Better economy and 28 cents cheaper... yep, I'm good with diesel :D

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  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    Mt. Arlington Exxon, Mt. A, NJ

    87 - $3.089
    89 - $3.239
    93 - $3.369

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  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,296
    $3.35 regular unleaded. Usually we're at the low end of average national gas prices. :cry:
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Right behind ya...price drop of 10 cents to $2.99 for 87 at Sheetz today, with 93 at $3.19 (central VA). Diesel steady at $2.79.

    For once, "Lowest Price" (that's really their name) actually meant it: also $2.99 for 87.

    So, I haven't paid more than $2.99 in my area, ever. (But there was that pesky $3.29 in Truxton, AZ in March.)

    This could be a pre-Memorial weekend ruse!
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Several ARCO stations are down to $3.21 per gallon on regular. County average dropped 2 more cents today. It must be the oil companies playing with our little minds. :blush:
  • jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    I think we're getting your prices:

    Latest increases (prices listed are for 87 octane):

    Monday started off @ $3.499; My usually place was $3.459.

    Monday afternoon increased to $3.539 ~ $3.559, Shell & BP; Mobil stayed at $3.499

    Tuesday afternoon increased again to $3.659 at Shell / BP / Speedway; Mobil at $3.569 but increased to $3.639 today.

    The Citgos, Jewels and the like are in the $3.559 range.

    In total we've had a +35 cent jump in a little over a week's time (starting from last Monday at $3.299)

    I'm guessing the increase yesterday was due to that pipeline disruption in Alaska, though the articles I read stated there shouldn't be any supply problems. Or maybe it was due to the article that stated the hurricane season was going to start June 1 and this year looks like a doozy. I figure it wasn't because of Memorial Day weekend since in the past the prices didn't jump up until Thursday / Friday so I am expecting another increase tomorrow.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,672
    $3.499 is the norm here. Some stations were slow to raise the prices fom $3.19-3.29 up to the mandated $3.499. But now it seems most are there.

    This all on the days when the crude oil prices went down.

    Perhaps they're celebating the decrease in crude with an increase?

    Here in the Ohio region the BP Prudhoe 25% slowdown shouldn't be affecting us. But I was told in the past Marathon, BP, and Shell were the suppliers in this area.

    Does anyone know.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • tpetpe Member Posts: 2,342
    The inventory reports regarding oil and gas stockpiles get released today. It will be interesting to see if gasoline inventories show a surprising increase. I think that they will due to almost 2 straight weeks of record prices, which had to have some people cutting back. If that's the case we might see some relief at the pump in the short term. Which will of course be followed by increased consumption and a return to the record prices.
  • larsblarsb Member Posts: 8,204
    The oil companies do not set retail gas prices.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,672
    >The oil companies do not set retail gas prices.

    Strange. I was at the Kroger station when the manager came and told the cashier to change the prices. Does he get orders from the tooth fairy, as Judge Judy would ask? And does the tooth fairy tell all these companies to change their price to $3.499 just on a whim. Am I to believe they all set that one price just by accident within hours?

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Actually in our area there is a very wide range of pricing even within one brand. However the Oil companies now own most of the stations. Mom and Pop lost their stations to the environmentalists years ago. They may not call each station and have them change the price. According to a friend at Costco they change the price to reflect the current tanker price paid.

    I think most of the oil from Alaska ends up in the West Coast refineries in WA and CA. So any interruption will probably impact our prices.
  • larsblarsb Member Posts: 8,204
    Nothing like these forums to teach one to be able to support one's own statements:

    HOW GASOLINE PRICES ARE SET

    Oil companies do not set wholesale (rack) or retail prices based solely upon the cost to manufacture and sell gasoline; rather wholesale (rack) and retail prices are set on the basis of market conditions, including the prices of competitors.
    Most oil companies and gasoline stations try to keep their prices at a constant price difference with respect to one or more competitors. As a result of these interdependent practices, gasoline prices of oil companies tend to go up and down together.

    Who sets retail gasoline prices

    More from NPR:

    Good lesson for us all
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    That is all good info. My point being the oil companies also own that tank farm down by the docks. It is the place the tanker trucks come in and get a load of gas or diesel. They haul it to the stations. If the station owner pays $2 per gallon for that load of gas he will sell it for $2.10 or there abouts. I would imagine they have a monitor in the back that tells what the daily price for all grades of gas are. They just change the price on the pumps to reflect the changes they are seeing. When this surge started in February I was running errands and gas was jumping 20 cents while in the bank. I kept driving toward home until I found a station that had not jumped. When I went in to fill up I saw the reason. They were having problems with their computers. So I filled for 20 cents a gallon under all the surrounding ARCO stations. We have very few choices in my area. Both Valero and Spirit are 30 cents higher than ARCO and Costco on average. The only independent is a truck stop which is higher for gas and lower for diesel. No shell stations left close to me. One Chevron in a 3 mile radius. Seven ARCO plus Costco in that same area.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,672
    Who is Valero? They have started showing up station by station in our area over the last year. Is this the Venezuelan company?

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    They claim to be the largest refiner in the USA. I guess they want all the money. They are competitive in some areas of San Diego. Others they are much higher than the competition. I think the Spirit stations are Russian owned.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Citgo is from Venezuela I am not sure where Valero is from.

    Continental Europe maybe?
  • jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    Perhaps they're celebrating the decrease in crude with an increase?

    Probably. Either that or the "official" beginning of Summer Driving season has been changed back to Memorial Day Weekend. Before it stated the increase was due to summer driving season starting early due to the early change in Daylight Savings, now it's back to Memorial Day.

    I just can't take any more of these lame-a** excuses and lies about why the prices are so high.
  • hbgti1hbgti1 Member Posts: 16
    Valero is based out of San Antonio, TX.
  • tpetpe Member Posts: 2,342
    The House of Representatives just passed a bill making price gouging illegal. I'd like to think that most people are smart enough to realize this is nothing more than political grandstanding meant to appease the mindless masses. The wording was that it would be illegal to sell gasoline at prices that were "unconscionably excessive". What the hell does that mean? Is 10% unconscionably excessive? Well that would be around 30-35 cents a gallon. I guarantee most stations owners profit margin on gas is about 1/3 of that. Gas is expensive because we consume a lot of it, a whole lot of it.

    This kind of garbage that comes out of DC is so moronic as to be offensive.
  • phinneas519phinneas519 Member Posts: 113
    I was also wondering how the vague wording would equate to any effective pump policing. You pretty much nailed it on the head, tpe, so now I've been saved from making an extra rant today. Thanks! :D
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    This kind of garbage that comes out of DC is so moronic as to be offensive.

    I think it has gotten worse since the last election, if that is possible. If it looks totally stupid to a lowly technician such as myself. What must it look like to a rocket scientist or brain surgeon?
  • lablover2lablover2 Member Posts: 115
    3.70 yesterday here
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,672
    Prices here were set to $3.499 by the nonexisting group pricing method a couple days back. Now a group are down to $2.259--a bargain we've been trained to believe.

    Since I believe they'll have another refinery emergency before Friday morning I'm going to stop and fill up the car that's down part way.

    >The wording was that it would be illegal to sell gasoline at prices that were "unconscionably excessive"

    The problem is most of us find congressmen "unconscionably excessive." It's going to take a complete change in government attitude to get them working as representatives of the people again, instead of their being representatives of their party.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • larsblarsb Member Posts: 8,204
    Most places are $3.05 to $3.15

    I got lucky and found a "gas war" between two stations across the street from one another and got 16.436 gallons for $2.99 yesterday. The other station was $2.96 this morning - just missed out !!!!
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,672
    larsb: Weren't you advocating higher gas prices in the past because that would discourage usage? Here you are getting the lowest price possible, maybe the lowest in the country at present. Or is my memory failing me? ;) grin.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • larsblarsb Member Posts: 8,204
    I absolutely want higher gas prices !! They stimulate creativity, they stimulate reduced consumption, they stimulate car makers to build more efficient cars, they stimulate more mass transit usage, they reduce road rage and rush hour congestion, they increase sales of smaller cars which then reduces pollution.

    High gas prices are important in many ways.

    I could have paid $3.15 but there was a station within 2 miles of my house with $2.99 gas, so why not take advantage?

    When gas hits $4, I'm still gonna look for the lowest price in my area, regardless. :)
  • tpetpe Member Posts: 2,342
    I don't think that searching for the lowest price is inconsistent with advocating higher gas prices. I also believe that gas prices should be higher but not for the sake of simply paying more. These higher prices create a greater desire to do whatever you can to reduce your gas expenditures because they are now a more significant chunk of your budget. It is this desire that will cause people to want more fuel efficient vehicles and to drive them less. It will also result in people shopping for the cheapest possible gas. Again, there is no inconsistency here.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    they reduce road rage and rush hour congestion

    I don't think so. People still have to go to work and most, are not going to, or cannot ride a bike, bus or Segway. People may start thinking about cutting out extra trips to the store etc. Probably the only affect will be an economic downturn. All prices go up with the cost of fuel. Especially food, as it requires lots of fuel from the farm to the market.

    Hope your gas price holds through June. I have to make a trip through there to NM.
  • tpetpe Member Posts: 2,342
    All prices go up with the cost of fuel. Especially food, as it requires lots of fuel from the farm to the market.

    That's a pretty common argument and it sure sounds reasonable but it doesn't hold up. Gas prices have tripled in the last 8 years. If what you're saying is true that should have had a profound impact on the price of food during this period. I do my own grocery shopping and I sure haven't seen it. Yes food prices have gone up but not outside the normal 2-3% inflation rate that would be expected. Also, part of this increase is due to higher corn prices, driven by the push for ethanol, which has nothing to do with transportation costs.

    So if you would have told me 8 years ago that tripling the price of gas would significantly drive up food prices I might have believed you. But I've now seen real world data that tells me it isn't that big a deal.
  • larsblarsb Member Posts: 8,204
    Well, I don't know about most cities but in Phoenix, public transportation ridership is up in the last two years (since Katrina) and that takes cars off the road.

    And I'll accept the trade off of paying more for my veggies while keeping pollution down and all the other benefits of higher prices.

    IMHO the benefits outweigh the negatives.
  • keepitsimplekeepitsimple Member Posts: 4
    $3.65/gallon, for #87
    Roselle, Illinois

    P. S.: HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!!! :sick:
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,672
    >I absolutely want higher gas prices !!

    Then you should just pull up to the first pump on the road without paying attention to price.

    It's like those who advocate higher taxes. They are free to send an extra check to the US Treasury every time they want to do so.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • larsblarsb Member Posts: 8,204
    As evidence of a previous post of mine today: Higher gas prices leading to increased mass transit ridership in Phoenix and LESS POLLUTION:

    High gas prices altering commuting habits

    And the comment about "Then you should just pull up to the first pump on the road without paying attention to price" is not my philosophy at all.

    My point is that the "greater good is served" by higher gas prices causing things like the story I posted here.

    That does not mean that I personally want to always pay the highest gas prices possible - that would be ridiculous.

    There will ALWAYS be stations which are a few cents cheaper than the absolute highest priced stations - and those will be where I buy the VERY SMALL AMOUNT of fuel which I use.

    Another point is that high gas prices are encouraging people to change their commuting habits and buy more fuel efficient cars. I have done BOTH of those already.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    rule when buying ghastly, and rightly so. This holds true even if I were driving from Arizona to Illinois on vacation. $20 is plenty to go to these hoodlums at any one time.

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • tpetpe Member Posts: 2,342
    >I absolutely want higher gas prices !!

    Then you should just pull up to the first pump on the road without paying attention to price.

    You just don't get it. People advocating higher gas prices are doing so based on the premise that no one wants to spend a lot of money on gas, not even themselves. If that wasn't the case then there would be absolutely no merit in this approach to encouraging conservation and alternatives. I'd actually like to see people spend less on gas. How is this possible if I favor higher gas prices? I'll let you figure it out.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,672
    >Higher gas prices leading to increased mass transit ridership in Phoenix and LESS POLLUTION:

    Evidence of lower pollution levels would be hard to prove. The people having to ride the metro are those of lesser means. The people with more money to spend will continue to commute at 80 mph in their Sequoias and Highlanders and pickup trucks with one person in them. There's something wrong with that outcome. It's kind of Gore-esque. It's like his pitch for attention about global warming (alleged) and everyone should conserve as he operates more than one large house with huge electric bills, e.g., and commutes by SUV and flies around in jets...

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • 94accord_lover94accord_lover Member Posts: 42
    Hey, guess what? Not all of us live in the city! Not everyone can ride a bus instead of driving. I live in rural southern Ohio, and guess what? There is NO rural transport services! There is NO WAY else we can get to work and to college (me) but by driving. My dad has an 36 mile round trip to work, and it's costing him about $35-$40 a week to drive his 92 Olds 88 to work.
    By the way, that's another thing that steams me bad. Not everyone can afford to buy a Prius every time the gas prices go up! High gas prices do NOT conserve, they ENCOURAGE it, but it just can't happen! We (my family) cannot afford a new car payment. Gas is cheaper than a car payment. Yes, I would like to be able to trade our 99 LeSabre or my 94 Honda Accord for a new Prius or Civic Hybrid, but we cannot afford a payment for a $25,000 car. These gas prices are hurting us bad, and we can't cut back anymore. I have to drive to college, about 45 miles each way, and even though I drive a relatively fuel-efficient car (my 94 Accord), it's no miracle vehicle. It still would be more expensive to live there, but the prices are ridiculous. I payed $3.49 at a local BP station (we get a 6 cent break if we pay with cash), so 6.60 gallons was $23.30. This is far past post-Katrina prices, so what gives? Refinery breakdowns? Yea friggin right!! Mideast fighting? That's been happ'nin since the Good Book was written! Come on, it's all coming down to GREED! Refinery maintainance costs up yet RECORD PROFITS?!! :mad: It's BULL$#!^!! My blood's boiling, so I better stop.
  • stuckinohiostuckinohio Member Posts: 26
    3.49 for regular, Tipp City OH
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,672
    99 % of the area of the country is NOT served by mass transit. And in many cases the transit doesn't go where the masses need to go.

    It's a nice skipoff to tell people to use the mass transit but our economy hasn't evolved that way.

    In reality costwise the 4-cyl manual transmission version of a Honda or Corolla will probably be more cost effective than paying extra for the latest fad of Prius or a Hybrid in a Honda or Civic.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,672
    Prices at certain stations nearer Dayton are $3.24 on the north side nearer Tipp.

    I suspect Saturday the prices will moderate after people traveling will have left town.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • stuckinohiostuckinohio Member Posts: 26
    Tipp/Troy are stuck right at 3.49, seems like we always have the worst in area. They think we're rich or something. *scratches head and looks inside wallet*

    I think premium is sittin at 3.71.

    And like you said, try catching an RTA here. There aren't any. No bus lines up this way at all. In fact, I can't think of anywhere in Miami County that's serviced.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,672
    Major station prices are down to $3.499 around here now that it's Friday morning. I expect a drop to $3.29 by evening and Saturday morning. The cheaper cluster of stations in north suburbs of Dayton will go to $3.19.

    Troy/Tipp will stay high because of interstate travelers and Marathon's hold on number of stations along the interstate. If they can afford to travel, let them pay more. It's good for the future to pay more: grin. ;)

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • tpetpe Member Posts: 2,342
    There have always been people in this country that couldn't afford to drive. Maybe some new faces are joining this group but I don't see how that makes it any less fair. For most people gas is still not the biggest component in their transportation expenditures. If we need to do something to make it affordable for people to get from pt A to pt B then why stop with gas prices. We need to address car prices, insurance costs, registration fees, maintenance, etc. We need to get these prices down to where everyone can afford to drive. Do you agree with that or do you think that we just need to get prices downs to where people like you can afford to drive?

    I realize that many people can't just pick up and move or purchase a new car. Well all I've got to say is you better start making some long range plans because high fuel prices are here to stay. Yeah they may go down from time to time but the overall trend is definitely going to be higher.
  • larsblarsb Member Posts: 8,204
    Don't need hard numbers to "prove" it.

    More mass transit means less drivers on the road - just flat out common sense. And less cars on the road means lower pollution.

    Might not be MUCH, but everything helps.....
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,672
    >Don't need hard numbers to "prove" it.

    Since much of the pollution blamed on cars isn't actually from cars, I guess it would be hard for you to prove that it's not directly proportional to increased mass transit.

    >And less fewer cars on the road means lower pollution.

    Same.

    Gas prices are down to $3.139 in the price competitive area.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • larsblarsb Member Posts: 8,204
    No, it's not directly proportional at all.

    All I said, which is true, is that:

    more people using mass transit = fewer cars on the road
    fewer cars on the road = less pollution put into the air

    That's not my opinion, it's logical fact. Doesn't need to be backed by facts - just by common sense.

    Regardless of what pollution is blamed on cars which they do not cause, cars DO pollute, to varying degrees.

    Fifty cars off the road per day in a town like Phoenix is at least 14,000 undriven commutes per year. No matter how you want to spin it, that means less pollution spewed into the air.

    Gas prices in Phoenix still hovering around $3.10 - $3.20. Lowest in town is $2.95 today.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    more people using mass transit = fewer cars on the road
    fewer cars on the road = less pollution put into the air

    It depends on the buses. Are they all hybrids or CNG? If not there is a chance they are causing more pollution. I am sure that one old city diesel bus will pollute more than the cars it replaces. San Diego Trolley system is electric and most of our buses are CNG. Of course they run empty due to the high cost for most riders.

    Most ARCO stations in my area down to $3.21. They peaked at $3.36 two weeks ago. We are headed back to 2 dollar gas :shades:
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