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XS Auto with no options is $24,245.
S auto now costs $24,220, so it looks like that only went up $25. Much better.
Oh, if they have 2003, I'll put the wife in a Premium just to see her reaction.
-juice
• Towing
A while back, Patti said the braked towing for the 5-speed had been raised to 2400 pounds. Is that true only for the 5-speed, or is it also true for the automatic too? Also, what about unbraked towing? Is it still at 1000 pounds for both 5-speed and automatics, or has that been raised a bit too?
•Roof Rack
Is the roof rack capacity still at 150 pounds?
• Spare Tire
Is it still a full-size spare?
Thanks!
Bob
I'll ask if they have any in stock tonight.
-juice
Also, I believe the Canadian Forester comes with a trailer wiring harness. I wonder if the same is true for USA-spec Foresters?
Bob
-juice
Greg
Mike
-juice
Is alcohol, the rubbing kind, too strong or will it work just was well?
Mike
If you do want to remove it yourself, you might also want to try Goo Gone.
Ken
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As an intro, I've lurked on the Forester/Subaru boards for 2+ years, patiently waiting until my current Honda dies (>200k miles). I'm targeting a 03 Premium AT, but may consider a 02 depending on timing and pricing. I may also consider MT since I'll be leaving the DC beltway area for FL.
I have a question regarding tax and buying out-of-state(more specifically double taxing). I'm a newbie. I currently live in Virginia. Let's say I buy soon at fitz(white flint), I'm guessing I'll get charged the VA sales tax?? If I then move to FL in a few months, FL will charge me a 6% use tax. Not good.
What if I wait until I'm a FL resident. If I purchase and pick up the car @White Flint, will I only owe FL tax? Do I need to take delivery in FL? An advice is appreciated.
Thanks.
The cars with the gray interior look great. The updated dash and console are very well done. I'm a little concerned about the "blue" that they chose. But I'm sure we won't have a problem selling them. Hey people like Barney right?
-mike
-mike
Here in NM, we live on the border of Texas, and if we had purchased a car in Texas the dealership would have charged and collected NM sales tax (less than Texas tax by about one-half).
That being said, I remember Northerners complaining about getting screwed on car registrations and maybe something about use taxes, which are a substitute for sales tax and a way to collect tax that was not collected in the state of origin. (I used to practice law in FL, but I never had to deal with this particular issue, though I dealt with related issues.) In my experience, in FL, FL vendors could fill out paper work indicating that the item purchased, an airplane or yacht, for example, would not be used in FL and no tax was due
on it. There may be a similar procedure in other states. Also, I remember that if you could prove you paid sales tax in another state, no tax was due to FL (provided the tax was equal to or higher than FL tax, I think -- not completely clear on that, never had to deal with it.)
What I would do: Call up FL Dept. of Revenue in Tallahassee -- the agency people are usually pretty knowledgeable and helpful; it will take one, two, possibly three transfers of your call, but you'll get an answer from the FL side.
Of course, this is no substitute for legal advice in the states in question. I strongly encourage you to consult an lawyer in the states where you will be purchasing the vehicle and the state where you plan to reside. That is the surest and safest course of action.
-mike
For instance, I did not have to pay California sales tax when I MOVED from Texas to California. (For that matter, I didn't have to pay customs for items purchased in Europe when I moved back to the States after spending 3 years in Germany courtesy of the US Army, and come to think of it, my husband didn't have to pay any customs on his household goods moving from Canada to the US. But that might have been because he was still a Canadian at the time).
However, when I was looking at buying a car in Nevada as a legal resident of California, the rules were different. I would have had to pay California sales tax, regardless of whether I paid in Nevada or not.
So checking it out with the individual states is a good thing...
So it's probably safer to wait and buy car in FL. States do try to encourage in-state purchasing by "punishing" for bringing in an out-of-state vehicle.
nello
bluejean: I believe you pay the tax when (and where) you register it, so if you register it twice yes I think you'll pay twice.
nello: no, you can pull the grid out, the wires are right there already. Piece of cake.
-juice
Subaru dealer here in NH said they had to pull the door covers off and it would take an hour to do. Is there any soldering involved or putting on any new connectors?
nello
:-)
Ross
-juice
I saw red and green one. Overall I was not really that impressed with it. I liked it more than the 2002 model but the dash looked a little cheap with the single CD and the empty slot with the plastic door thingy. I also found the back seat to be a little more spacious but not really too much....still a little tight for me. The exterior was nicer than the 2002 and to par with the pictures.
The dealer told me they were waiting for some chip to arrive because they only go 10mph without this chip. He said they ship them like this for security. Is this true?
Right now I'm debating between CR-V and the XS. Silver is my color of choice with a sunroof. I think the Soob definitely drives better by my experience test driving the 2002 but the CR-V is definitely roomier.....what to do...what to do.
I think the sticker on the forester had an MPG of 21/27 for the stick and 21/27 for the AT. I thought they would be a little higher based on the new weight.
I really don't want to spend more than 23,500 before tax and lic. I can get the CR-V EX AT for 22,100....is an XS doable for under 23.5k?
In today's USA Today, a "Good Becomes Better" review for the '03 Forester.
In a comparo with the RAV4, it is stated that the Forester has "more legroom and cargo volume behind the back seat and a roomier rear seat."
This does not seem to square with what others have said on-line.
John
Huh? I thought the Forester was always EPA classified as a passenger car.
I also thought it was funny how many reviews keep saying that the 2003 Forester isn't a redesign. I don't know if they realize it's all new sheetmetal from the ground up.
Ken
In my previous post I had the RAV4 mixed up in my mind with the CR-V, which, by reports, is roomier than my Forester.
(That the outline of the Forester was described in the review as that of a comfortable old shoe -- I can easily go with that.)
Bob
• Towing
A while back, Patti said the braked towing for the 5-speed had been raised to 2400 pounds. Is that true only for the 5-speed, or is it also true for the automatic too? Also, what about unbraked towing? Is it still at 1000 pounds for both 5-speed and automatics, or has that been raised a bit too?
•Roof Rack
Is the roof rack capacity still at 150 pounds?
• Spare Tire
Is it still a full-size spare? (I'm almost certain it is, but you never know)
• Any other new interesting tidbits of information, not already known here?
Thanks again!
Bob
Still has full sized spare in the back. But not as much room in the compartment.
Roof racks carry 150 pounds of cargo.
All of this is from the owner's manual.
-Frank P.
-Brian
Bob
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I was wondering if anyone knows what the new color "Java Black Pearl" looks like? I hope I like it, having bought the '03 sight unseen.
I am also wondering about the woodgrain dash. My dealer did not have it available as an option and some of the "auto show" pictures out there do not show wood, but some auto show pic's do show wood. I will probably have it added at the same place that will do the glass tinting (metallic type - based on prior postings to this site). Even though it is not real wood (gotta go to the $80k jag for that) it seems to add some warmth (need it in upstate NY) and breaks up the monotony of the plain plastic dash materials.
Also, for anyone looking for a new SUV type vehicle, I spent the last 3 months driving all kinds: Acura MDX, BMW X5, Lexus RX300, Toyota Highlander. I found that the Forester had all the key features (Leather, heated seats/mirrors, AWD, adequate back seat leg room for growing family, excellent safety report and good exterior styling, etc.). So if you are looking - just go out and buy a Forester - and save $20 to $30k versus the fore mentioned "luxury SUV's".
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I wonder why they claimed 2400 lb towing for the 5 speed if the manual doesn't reflect that? Maybe it was a late change?
Still none at Fitz, I went again today (wife bought Legacy L wagon). They said it would be MSRP at first, their no-haggle price, that is. Should come down soon, though.
-juice
-fern