Subaru Forester (up to 2005)

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  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Bob,

    I believe the Avid H4 is a good tire, but they don't seem to get very good ratings for snow. The lower speed rated Avid T4 seems to have better all-around performance but sacrifices the H-speed rating. Discount Tire sells their own brand of Yokohama Avid tire (I think they call it the YK420) and it's between the two. The price is usually pretty good.

    For all around performance I would recommend the Dunlop SP Sport A2. It's relatively inexpensive, gets good ratings and performs well. I bought a set for my wife's 2000 Jetta GLS VR6 and like them. I believe they are a tad noisier than standard touring tires, however.

    Another good choice would be the Dunlop Sport SP5000. It's a higher performance tire, but a favorite among i-clubbers for it's all-season traction.

    For Bridgestone, you might consider the RE950 (gets about the same reviews as the SP5000) or the Turanza. The Turanza is Bridgestone's premium touring tire and has a lot of high-tech tread compounds in it.

    I find that Michellins and Goodyears are a little overpriced for what you get.

    Ken
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    I am really close to test driving one. Wondering what this boxer engine will feel like compared to my 180hp 1.8T Jetta.
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    The 2.5L boxer has a relatively flat torque curve and revs quite readily. I think you'll notice that it has a bit more low-end grunt than the 1.8T.

    Also, boxers have a very characteristic "burble". When attached to an aftermarket exhaust, they make quite a nice deep grumble unlike Hondas.

    Ken
  • lakepoplakepop Member Posts: 221
    IMHO if you are interested in a Forester....drive one FIRST, then if it still holds your interest .....start asking questions/doing some searchs. Seems like you are doing the reverse. Drive one then come back with some opinions and questions. We all pretty much love ours for many different reasons. We are most friendly and WILL share!
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    i have driven one, just not a 2003. i am familiar with the boxer engine sounds. i don't mind - it just sounds mechanical, but not in a bad way. i just have not driven one since I got the VW. so back in 01 the Forester was fine, but i wonder what i will think now. i will be sure to post my feelings once i finish the drive!

    i do want to drive the 03, since i have read that it has had some suspension mods.

    at this point, i am looking for any glaring reliability issues. so far, i have heard of NONE. that is a good sign!

    thanks again!
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    getting the Yokohama Avid H4s. Maybe not as good in the snow as the Geolanders, but hopefully better in the dry. We'll see. heading up up to the Catskills in the AM. Maybe they're will be some snow to test them out. ;)

    I sure like the look of the blackwall tires. Much classier than the white-outline-letter Geolanders.

    Bob
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Bob,

    The Avid H4s are great tires. Tire Rack recommends them quite often.

    Remember to go easy the first hundred miles or so on your tires. Brand-new tires need to be broken in until they start performing the way they were intended.

    Let us know how you like them!

    Ken
  • lspivalspiva Member Posts: 49
    Folks,

    You won't believe what I saw today driving in California traffic. It was 2003 Forester XS but with so much aftermarket staff that I hardly recognized this car, even though I drive exactly one like that. That car had (I would guess) 19" or 20" low-profile tires on awesome polushed-aliminum rims. And that's not all, the windows were tinted in silver mirror color. Huge front aluminum polished grill and tail lights cover. And guess what else, 4 off-road lights on a top bar. This car looked so awesome so I wanted to do the same modifications on mine. I check Net, but couldn't find anything similar to what I saw today. Does anybody knows where I could get this kind of the staff? I will be appreciated for any respond. Leo
  • leo2633leo2633 Member Posts: 589
    Bob,

    I agree that the blackwalls look 100% better than the white letters. That's why I had mine taken off the rims, reversed and remounted when my '01 Forester S was 2 days old. I didn't do that with my wife's '02 Outback, but I wish I had. Now I'll just wait until it's time to replace them. BTW, my Geo's are at almost 46K (probably 80% highway driving) and have worn beautifully. I guesstimate that they have perhaps another 10K left in them. They've been run at 32 PSI all around, and rotated every 5K since new.

    Len
  • xccoachlouxccoachlou Member Posts: 245
    Since I am in a cantankerous mood and offering free advice tonight, let me offer this...

    Can we please have simpler color selection in the Forester line?

    Cayenne Red in the XS would be hot. A completely Woodland Green monotone Premium would be Waldenesque.

    While I love the Black Java Gold, the grey interior, well, one comment I heard was that it felt like being in a hearse. Maybe a darker grey interior, more towards charcoal? And that Silver Metallic Premium with gray interior is too silvery.

    So, for next MY, here are the LOU approved colors.

    Ice Blue Pearl with grey interior
    Seamist Green with grey or beige
    Java Black Gold with charcoal interior

    Keep the Cayenne Red, Aspen White, Woodland Green, and Silver.

    The Ice Blue would replace pacifica blue.

    Lou, who wonders how he would look in a Woodland Green XS Forester...
  • allhorizonallhorizon Member Posts: 483
    Lou,

    You forget one thing. Where it is really hot and sunny 80% of the year, you want white, light grey, silver, light blue/green etc. as exterior colors, and nothing but a light gray/beige interior. And Texas, California, and Florida (sorry Arizona and New Mexico) make up quite a bit of the US population (which compensates for the lack of snow in these areas).

    - D
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Can we please have simpler color selection in the Forester line?

    Just remember what Henry Ford said: You can have any color you want, as long as it's black! (I think he was talking about the Model-T.)

    Let's be thankful for choice -- and everything else! Happy T-Day, all!

    tidester, host
  • jtm4jtm4 Member Posts: 60
    Subaru should offer the XS premium in the Woodland Green. My wife and I think that's their best color. The beige interior is a little more yellow than we like, though. We wish that you could get the sunroof option in the X model. We like the value of the X model but would like the sunroof. Maybe they'll change some things before we're ready to trade in our 98 L.
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    I was disappointed by the relative lack of colors in the top-of-the-line Forester XS Premium. I wanted the sunroof, as well as the leather, and that limited the color selection significantly (black, white, silver, gold, red). No green or blue as in the X.
  • xccoachlouxccoachlou Member Posts: 245
    the wonderful folks on this forum who are gracious, helpful, and friendly.

    I hope you remembered you are what you eat. :) I try and avoid Turkey and Nuts... :) But I eat mushrooms cause people tell me I am Fungi :)
    lol
  • allhorizonallhorizon Member Posts: 483
    that includes automobiles and meals.

    I get frustrated when manufacturers start making choices for me. XS premium? No, I want a manual. So I will need to go aftermarket for a sun/moonroof and leather. Wait, rumors are the turbo will only be available in automatic. Argh...

    VW Jettas and Golfs are available with 4 different engines, 5 if/when the R32 comes over.

    I know, lower sales numbers means less choice, still -- I can be wishful.

    Happy Thanksgiving, and don't go cold Turkey on all that seasonal food.
  • joseph50joseph50 Member Posts: 235
    Grey in Black like riding in a hearse?
    I greatly like the dark brown/beige in my dark green '01S. With a little toy stuffed racoon sitting up on the dash (putty on his butt to keep him in place), my favorite skinning pocket knife in the dash storage bin, a sticker of my favorite sports team strategically placed, I feel like I ride comfortably in my private, cozy little den; great for arriving at any destination in a relaxed frame of mind.
  • lhuesolhueso Member Posts: 2
    We are very satisfied with our silver Forester. Almost 4,000 miles and all is well. Averaging 25 mpg between highway and local driving. I read a number of posts which helped me decide to buy the nice heavy duty floor mats from 1st Subaru Parts.com. They are nice and at a good price. Has anyone found a source for an arm rest extension besides the local dealers? This is the only item that my wife misses from our Voyager van. We love the quick response of the steering and the short turning radius. We first looked at the Forester about two years ago, but we are glad that we waited for just the right amount of changes to be made in the interior /exterior that finally sold us.
  • jason_elsjason_els Member Posts: 57
    How is the A/C in the '03 Forester? I read a review that said it wasn't very good but I'd really like to know what people think, particularly if you live in a humid area. I live in New York where the summers can get very muggy and if you're stuck in traffic on a hot day the temps just soar from the highway and vehicle heat.

    Thanks for the input!
  • declansdaddeclansdad Member Posts: 120
    I can only speak of my 2000 Forester's a/c and let me tell you, I've never had a problem keeping the cabin cool. I live in the Wash/Balt area and do not have tinted windows, yet the a/c keeps my family comfortable. I really can't see Subaru changing the a/c units that much...so I don't think you'll have a problem.

    Some other members have their windows tinted and they have stated that the a/c unit has to be kept at a low setting or they freeze (? Juice).

    Just my $.02--Michael
  • dcabdcab Member Posts: 101
    We got our '03 XS in July and found no problem cooling the car this summer.
  • rochcomrochcom Member Posts: 247
    The AC in my '98 has been fine, although sometimes in very hot, sunny weather, it takes a bit of time to cool down. I think that the large glass area is the problem, but I have not had mine tinted because I am afraid of night vision problems.


    Husco makes armrests that fits most Subaru models at prices in the 60-70 US dollar range. I have one, and the sliding feature is very worthwhile. It can be moved out of the way when not used. Unfortunately, they do not yet have a design for the new model. They do custom work and may be able make one, but you would need to talk to them. They just came out with a design for the WRX, so I imagine they are working on the Forester also.


    http://www.husco.com

  • leo2633leo2633 Member Posts: 589
    I have an '01 Forester S and I find that the A/C is quite powerful. I agree that on a really hot, humid day, it will take a little longer to cool down, but once it does, it keeps it there with no problems. I had the windows tinted on mine (15% metallic film), which may help some. BTW, I haven't had any problems with night vision due to the tint. As a matter of fact, you can hardly tell the windows are tinted when looking out at night, unless you compare the view through the non-tinted glass.

    Len
  • jtm4jtm4 Member Posts: 60
    The A/C in my '98 Forester works great. I have tinted windows. I usually never go above the 2nd fan setting and I live in Texas, where it gets hot and humid.
  • jimbob17jimbob17 Member Posts: 77
    Lou- dont take away my silver. My first new car in thirty years and I like the silver, gray and charcoal contrasts.
    Come to think of it I never saw silver for cars till Hondas had it in the 70s or 80s.
    I almost bought a blue X with the manual tranny but when I made up my mind the next day they had sold it. The dealer got me a silver one from another dealer in the region.
  • scirocco22scirocco22 Member Posts: 721
    lhueso-- allsubaru.com has the OEM extension for the 2003 for $93.56 ...maybe a little pricey but still less than retail at a local dealer.


    allsubaru.com is another Washington (state) based online vendor which is an arm of a local dealer. For those of you in the NW, you already know that allsubaru.com is run by SubieGal (illustrious and well-known rally enthusiast in these parts) out of Carter Subaru in Seattle. I'm sure you'll get excellent customer service because Jamie is a dedicated Subaru enthusiast. She has her own website and message board and is a prominent forum moderator on the NASIOC boards (the "old" i-club ...won't get into that controversy, though *laughs*)


    Click here for arm rest extension description or go to www.allsubaru.com and navigate to the proper page.


    --'rocco

  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Just got back from the Hunter Mountain ski resort, in the Catskills. We stayed at the Scribner Hollow Lodge; great food! Put roughly 850 miles on the Toaster with the new Yokohama Avid H4s, in four days. They seemed to work fine.

    The car was packed—I mean PACKED! The cargo area was almost totally blocked. With 4 adults, and gear, I'm sure I was near the Forester's payload limit. The rear sagged just a tad, so I wished we had the (not-for-America) self-levelling rear suspension. :( I had the tire pressure at 29F & 36R, as the owner's manual recommends for full loads.

    We had snow up there. It was 20 degrees when we arrived, and there was snow covering the ground. It also snowed yesterday, while we were visiting the Howe Caverns just west of Albany. The (so-so snow-rated) Avids did fine. I didn't push them, (to test their limits) as I had family aboard; but they seemed to handle the light snow just fine.

    The car is a MESS! Road salt up the wazoo! Need to take it to a car wash—soon...

    BTW, as I was fueling up the Subie, upon leaving Hunter NY for home, some guy pulled up along side of me at the gas pump in a brand new—and clean as a whistle, 6-speed Mini Cooper S, the supercharged model. He cetainly wasn't driving in the snow! My wife and daughter want one!

    Final trip comment: I sure wished the Forester had a turbo. The car was somewhat taxed going through the mountains. We drove through the PA mountains too. I would have loved to have another 40 or so HP! With all that mountain driving (from MD to NY, via PA), and heavy load, we barely got 21 mpg!

    Bob
  • xccoachlouxccoachlou Member Posts: 245
    JimBob,

    I don't want to take away silver. I agree it is one of the best colors out there. For the past 12 years I have driven a silver car. I'm just a bit tired of silver. Honestly, though, the best looking Forester XS Premiums are the Silver, followed by the Black, then Red and finally White.

    I'm still Subaru-less. Apparently, all this Zero percent financing and rebates have dropped the value of my car like a rock.

    I was at three different dealers this weekend to no avail. One wanted a "firm commitment" to buy before he would appraise my used car. I laughed and said how much car I can buy depends on how much cash I have, and how much cash depends on the value of my car. He came in $1300 under KBB.
    (and that's KBB for "rough" condition since the car is mechanically solid, but has some scratches and dings)

    Another had an '02 Blue Forester S, 5 Speed, in clean condition with 11,910 miles. He was asking $18,886 and was offended when I pointed out _his_ newspaper ad offering a new 03 Forester X with automatic for $100 more than that.

    I was also told by a dealer that my cars value would continue to drop. Guys, nothing from nothing is nothing. :) This was also the same guy that said his new car sales are down by 20% from a month ago. His used car prices weren't that bad, but he offered the least amount for my car, $1500 under KBB.

    So, I wait... some would say like a Vulture... ;)

    - Lou
  • newtosubnewtosub Member Posts: 1
    I am seriously considering a '03 Forester XS 5 speed and need both advice and recommendations. First, options: should I get the auto dimming mirror and arm rest extension? I live in a congested area and the vast majority of my driving is either in traffic or short hops. I also plan to use this vehicle for trips to the Cape and think I will need the roof for cargo. Any suggestions on the roof rack options. Since the roof will be used for cargo, the bikes will need to go on the back: do I need the Subaru bike hitch or will most bike racks work? Finally, is the rear differential protector a good idea? I will NEVER be off road with this vehicle. Is it a small investment for alot of protection or a waste?

    Next, recommendations on dealerships. I live in Rhode Island and will probably buy from either Anchor or Somerset (mainly because they are the closest to home or work). Does anyone have any experiences (good or bad) with these dealers? Are there other recommendations for dealers in my area?

    I am totally new to Subaru, so all help is welcome. Thanks.
  • bigfrank3bigfrank3 Member Posts: 426
    My wife and I have bought 3 Foresters from Somerset (formally Metro), and my wife's cousin makes 4. We have always come away pleased, and the couple of times we have used the service dept., they have been very accommodating.

    Since you are new to Subaru, I would recommend you talk to Paul or Bob. They are both long time salespersons there, and are very knowledgeable. Paul (Furtado) has always been our salesman and has done a very good job meeting our needs. He is very straightforward and honest.

    As far as options go, I would try to find a vehicle they have in stock, or coming in, that meets your needs. That's where the best prices are. If you have them, or any dealer, add options, the price becomes less good since they have to pay their folks to install them. When push comes to shove the prices are better when the options are factory installed.

    We like the armrest extension, and you will probably find many vehicles that already have it.

    Don't forget that you can always buy options after the fact through the Internet, at prices close to cost, and install them yourself. Subarus are pretty much set up from the factory so that all normal options can be easily added.

    Good luck!

    Regards,
    Frank
  • spudmanspudman Member Posts: 32
    I've had my Forester close to a a month now and can only respond to a couple of your questions.
    In my opinion the arm extension is a must have. I can't imagine not having one. The in stock model I bought already had the auto dimming mirror installed. It's not something I wanted, but came with the car. Even though I had a negative attitude about this feature from day one, I've really grown to like it. I've almost forgotten what it's like to have glaring headlight reflections in the mirror.
    Ironically, the rear net, something high on my list of wants, is mostly a hindrance and a nuisance to me, and I generally keep it unhooked. Go figure.
    I like this car quite a bit and have never for a second regretted my choice of vehicles.
  • drives1drives1 Member Posts: 4
    I never intended to personally test my '98 Forester's crash-worthiness, but the young lady in oncoming traffic who made a sudden left into my lane sealed my Forester's fate. 40+ mph head-on... and I walked away both shaken and stirred, but very much alive. Same for my 85 year old mother who was in the passenger seat. She too walked away unharmed. Just thought all you readers of this discussion would be very comforted in knowing the Forester is quite the safe vehicle. If you're considering one, be smart... buy one.
  • jtm4jtm4 Member Posts: 60
    Drives1, I'm glad to hear that you and your mom are O.K. I've always had piece of mind knowing that the Forester does well in crash test results. I have a friend, who's son rolled over down a hill in a Forester. He walked away from that mishap, unharmed, too.
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Newtosub- You definitely don't need the differential protector if you're not planning to take it off-road. And if you do decide to in the future, the Forester has sufficient gowned clearance for most situations. Re the transporting bikes, hitch mounted bike racks fit any standard hitch so you're not locked into the Subaru model. Re the roof rack, since the Forester comes standard with a roof rack, I'm assuming you mean what type of carrier should you get? The hard shell ones are more aerodynamic and secure because they're lockable but they are also more expensive and usually hold less. And of course the reverse holds true for the canvas ones.

    -Frank P.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I found it to be very useful if you drive in snowy/icey areas where you might encounter chunks of ice under the vehicle. Very cheap protection IMHO.

    -mike
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Mike- Oh come on now. There are literally millions of vehicles driving around in the Snow Belt without diffy protectors and I'm pretty sure that the number which have suffered damage to the rear diffy from a chunk of ice is statistically insignificant. It may be cheap protection but it's still unnecessary.

    -Frank P.
  • burnsmr4burnsmr4 Member Posts: 318
    WHERE IS THAT DARN CLICKING COMING FROM?!

    (Please note -- the poster may have already gone nuts.)

    I drove my 2002 Subaru Forester S to North Carolina this weekend for allergies, traffic, too much food, and excessive holiday activity planning by the wife. Happy Friggin' Thanksgiving. I wouldn't feel so bad about it, except for the fact that my Forester's HVAC CLICKED all the way to and from my various holiday destinations.

    Mind you, it wasn't just the occasional click of the fan or something. It was a click-click-click-click -- GOD! I'M HEARING IT NOW IN MY OFFICE! -- from underneath the passenger-side dashboard. Could it be a leaf stuck in the filtration system underneath the glove compartment? Is a fan going bad? DEAR LORD, WHAT IS CAUSING THIS ANNOYING SOUND?

    I had to run the heat all weekend -- it was cold. But, was it better to run the heat and hear the click -- ARRRGGGHHH!!! -- or turn it off for sanity's sake and just drive trembling and cold while I followed the wife's itinerary? I ran the fan at 1 all the way to 4 and the click just got slower or faster. The faster we drove, the less I heard, but that could've been wind noise drowning out the...no...I won't say it again....I have work to do.

    Please...what can I do? Tell me...before...what's that? Is the vent in my office clicking now? NOOOOOOO!

    burnsmr4
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Burnsmr4- Sounds like something is definitely interfering with the passenger compartment fan blades. Since it's still under warranty, why not just take it in to the dealer to get fixed? I would think that maintaining your sanity is worth the inconvenience.

    As an aside, when I'm on a road trip, I seldom use the fan for heat. I find that with the setting on outside air and the temp control set to heat, that there's sufficient airflow to maintain a comfortable cabin temperature.

    -Frank P.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    You are correct, but someone driving a Forester is more likely to venture out of the normal driving habits during snow storms than the average driver.

    Lots of things are un-necessary, (Moonroof, power door locks, leather, heated mirrors, rear wiper, etc. etc) but for $150 it's a worthwile option, IMHO.

    -mike
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Mike- There's a difference between unnecessary but useful and just plain unnecessary. Drivers benefit from moonroofs, power door locks and leather on a daily basis. Heated mirrors and rear wipers can also get used frequently. However, a rear diffy protector on a vehicle that never goes off-roading is as close to superfluous as you can get. And while $150 may not be a lot in the grand scheme of things, I can still think of better ways to spend it.

    -Frank P.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I'll agree to disagree :)

    -mike
  • gened1gened1 Member Posts: 256
    Up here in the New York frame of mind where snow and cold prevail we need to have the heater on especially when the windows start to fog up. The car heats up enough but the windows are eternally clearing. By the way did I mention that the windows fog up?? In Atlanta maybe its different but it is annoying. Almost as annoying as a clicking in the passenger compartment. At least you can see to hear the click(LOL).
    I'd even put a diffy protector on if I thought it would help.
    Gene
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Check out the 48hrs of Tri-state http://isuzu-suvs.com/events/48hrs-2 we'll be rolling through your neck of the woods with 10-20 subies!


    -mike

  • burnsmr4burnsmr4 Member Posts: 318
    ...quoth the raven. Friggin' raven. HE'S the one in my dashboard. Click click click...quoth the raven.

    burnsmr4

    P.S. - Insanity aside, I did notice that the cabin air filter is supposed to be changed every 7500 miles, according to the manual. True or not? If true, why come those goofs at dealership no change it out nearly 7500 miles ago during my first 7500 service?
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Burnsmr4- Those cabin air filters aren't cheap. I'd visually inspect mine before changing it after only 7500 miles. It should last considerably longer except for those that drive in very dusty/dirty environments.

    Gene- I've driven I-81 north from Syracuse in the winter several times (lake effect snow belt for those unfamiliar with the local geography) so I can relate to what you have to deal with. With the cold temps up there, the heater + fan is a must. The heated windshield on the XS is also a definite plus. Further south in more moderate climes, once you've cleared the windows and warmed the cabin interior, the outside airflow generated by 70 mph is usually sufficient to keep the windows clear and cabin warm. An exception is when it's 50s and raining. Then you pretty much have to use the AC to keep the condensation off the windows.

    -Frank P.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    I asked about the cabin air filter when I got my car serviced yesterday as I drive in dusty conditions frequently. Dealer says they remove and inspect. If mildly dusty, they use an air hose to blow off the dust or replace if needed. It involves removing the glovebox.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Did you check if the cabin filter was one of the service items at 7500 at your dealer? If yes, I'd go back and get one -- they're $$$$.

    If you ever look at a filter after about a year's use, you'll appreciate what grime it stopped for you.

    Ken
  • jimbob17jimbob17 Member Posts: 77
    I get a click every once and a while in the X. Its not from the fan or dash board though. Sounds like its behind me. My sister asked what it was and I said probably in the seat belt control. I pictured a swinging weight that helped engage the restraining mechanism but it was a guess.
  • capybaracapybara Member Posts: 10
    Hi everyone,
    After six months of researching and comparing cars, we finally have our new Subaru Forester XS! Thanks to everyone on the CR-V and Forester boards for your input. I would never have thought of getting a Subaru if it weren't for your suggestions and comments. We decided on the Forester because of its excellent safety ratings and bumper crash tests, good reliability reputation, true AWD, sporty handling, cargo space, great rear visibility and parking maneuverability. It's perfect for our needs for city living. We were initially considering the CR-V, but the poor rear visibility and bumper crash tests swayed us. The Element sounded interesting, but again would have poor rear visibility. Plus for both of them, Honda dealers aren't willing to budge off MSRP.

    We got our Forester XS for $300 over invoice. Not bad for the Bay Area. I researched prices using Edmunds, and used the Subaru.com website to check inventory at each dealer. I found that in order to get the options we wanted, it was better to get a car already loaded with everything rather than add on only the things we wanted to a base car, because they charge much more to install options at the dealer. I called Carlsen Subaru and they quoted the $300 over, which was the best price I got among the various dealers. Ron Price had the car in stock closest to what we wanted, so I had them match Carlsen's price.

    So we got a silver XS with automatic, upgraded sound package, armrest extension, autodimming mirror, security system, bumper cover, splash guards, and tailpipe cover. To that we added a tow hitch (for our bike rack), air filtration, cargo tray and wheel locks. Sweet! I have to say, even though we weren't looking for the premium stereo, that and the sporty handling makes it really fun to drive the car, and we fight over who gets to drive the Forester instead of our RX300.
  • gened1gened1 Member Posts: 256
    Mike,
    The Tri State run sounds like fun.If you go into Canada from Niagara Falls for the Casino etc. be prepared to be checked out closely. I won't be able to meet the group but you should check out the Dinosaur Barbeque in Rochester. They are famous in Syracuse and Rochester.
    Have fun and bring your warm clothes. How about a spring fling kind of drive?
    Gene
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