slugline: I thought the alphabet soup was exclusively on the menu at the Acura joint. Not really. Honda joint got the alphabet soup first, by about thirty three years (T360, S500).
I thought I saw an earlier post about the size of the 2002 CRV oil filter. Has the oil filter changed on the 02 CRVs? I e-mailed hparts.com and they said all of Hondas oil filters are the same. I realized the accords were the same, but can the same filter that fits the accord fit the 02 CRV? I will need to change the oil soon, but haven't taken a look at the filter yet! Thanks.
While driving to Denver from Bartelsville, we noticed that there is a humming noise at around 62mph it is not very noticeable at 60 or 65 has anyone with an 02 CRV noticed this. This howling noise seems to be coming from the front of the vehicle it is readily duplicated by driving at 62 mph. Any ideas rockycow
Does the 2002 CRV have speed sensing wipers? I was driving my wife's 2001 Odyssey in the rain today and was amazed when the the interval between window wipes drastically increased when the car was stopped. I was floored! It's a pet-peeve of mine when wipers chuff and hop across a dry window so I think this is a great feature.
Any 2002 owners out there know if this is a feature on the new V? I can't find any info about this on Honda's site (it's not mentioned for the Ody either!).
I had the same problem. Basically the humming sound is noticable between 55-60MPH. Some guys on this board think it might be caused by the over-pumped tires and suggest let out some air. I havn't given it a try yet though.
Roll back couple of pages you will see the original post. Good luck!
The previous generation CR-V and Civic do use the same filters as the current generation Accord and Odyssey. I took a look at the Mobil1 e-Store and see that the new '01+ Civic now uses a different Mobil1 filter. They don't have the '02 CR-V listed yet, although I suspect it will need a different kind of filter too. Not only might the engine blocks have changed, but both the Civic and CR-V now have 10,000-mile oil-change intervals, too. I guess we must assume that compatible filters must have longer lives to match.
Jim - Don't tell me you've just been looking at the pictures all this time? Sorry, there are no speed sensing wipers. In fact, they only have a single speed variable setting.
Yessssssssssss!!!! Got my new V. It's a wonderful ride. Got it at Community Honda in Orland Park, Illinois for $500 over invoice. It's a nice experience dealing with the salesman. Look for Tim Quirk if anybody's interested with this price.
Hey neighbor, I live in the area as well. Tell me about the deal on your new V. I see their advertised special reads "2002 crv ex for $20,501" from their website, but not sure if it is auto or manual. What did you pay? If you don't mind me asking. Edmunds invoice numbers are 20,302 for manual and 21,040 for auto. thanks
We've had our CRV for about a month now. It's a nice vehicle. Our first Honda. Kind of strange the intermittent wipers have only one setting. My only complaint is Honda thinking they'll do us a favor by not letting you lock all the doors using the power door lock button on the inside of the door. Rather, in order to lock the driver's door when you're exiting the vehicle, you have to use the keyless remote button, or you have to use the key in the door. This sucks. I know their intent is good, but c'mon! I can count only 2 times in 21 years of driving that I've locked my keys in my car. At least it doesn't have those annoying automatic headlights.
Topsail - Hold the inside latch open, while you press the lock button. This is how it works with the first gen model. I'm told it's a Honda thing. For a while my keyless entry wasn't working (dog chewed on the remote) and I got quite good at doing it one-handed.
There aren't speed sensing or even variable speed wipers on the '02 CR-V, but I have a 2000 Accord and I have the same sense of the variable wipers speeding up or slowing down when driving, stopping, etc. It is a nice feature. I don't know if this is different from the 1st gen CR-V, but the rear wiper is only a fixed intermittant wiper too.
Honda Motor Co. Ltd. of Japan said it was recalling 1,997 CRV vehicles manufactured between September and December last year because computer controlled systems for the vehicles' engine operations were incorrectly programmed. The faulty programme could result in excessive emissions of harmful substances in exhaust fumes, Honda said.
The Wall Street Journal today has an article titled "Honda Report Challenges Rivals on Feasibility of CAFE Changes." Honda argues that higher fuel-efficiency standards for SUVs would not harm auto safety.
Honda testified at a Senate Commerce Committee hearing that the preliminary results of a new Honda study are that the weight of the average vehicle can be reduced by 100 pounds with only a "very small and not statistically significant" effect.
All of this relates to a possible increase in the CAFE rules on light trucks. A trade group representing many manufacturers other than Honda argued that the NHTSA rather than Congress should make the decision on the CAFE level.
A Commerce Commitee aide mentioned the possibility of coupling together a change in the CAFE standard with a requirement for stronger SUV roofs to protect occupants in rollovers.
beatfarmer - congrat! yeah this board is fertile. I should let anyone who plans to have children to join this board
odds009 - congrat. on you new V!
samstr & angelica2 - I don't have clicking noise from the steering column, no seat rocking problem either. I even drove it a couple of days without the radio/cd on trying to listen to any clicking noise. Don't settle for the dealer's explaination. Ask when the next new V comes in, have the dealer proves it is a characteristic on the newly arrived Vs. I did have some rattle at the back, but it turns out to be seat belt for the middle passenger in the back. I buckled the middle seatbelt and the rattle went away.
bestofdixie - the negative terminal of the battery is the reference(ground). Most electronics don't like to be plugged/unplugged "hot". Removing the reference makes it safe, kind of like birds sitting on power line.
jquant - yeah, share the pictures.
Anybody installed the cladding by himself/herself? It looks like a lot of work from the instruction. Personally I like the look without the cladding, but it is sure practical.
Today's Colorado Springs Gazette said in a story on upcoming Japanese models that Acura had a concept car based on the CR-V.
"Based roughly on the CR-V sport-utility, the RD-X is made to haul mountain bikes to the country on the weekend after navigating in a congested city during the week." Concept version has a 250 HP 4 cyl (guess that would mean premium fuel)powering the front wheels and 2 25 hp engines for the rear wheels, along with a six speed "clutchless manual transmission." (What's that?).
The design studio that did the Pilot did the RD-X. Story said that it might be difficult to build that concept vehicle as displayed. But it then quoted the head of the studio as saying, "But we don't do anything we don't want to build."
Makes sense that if the MD-X become a Honda, that the CR-V could also become an Acura.
Also said the rear door opens in the middle. (Would that mean the spare mounted underneath the vehicle?)
I tried to link to the story, but the Auto Section wasn't even listed at gazette.com. It was a Knight Ridder story, so probably a syndicated story running in many other papers.
The CRV pictured in this article is manufactured in Swindon , England and has the hard spare tire cover similar to the 01 SE. Anyone knows if this version will ever be available in the US?
I bought a new CR-V the beginning of this month. I had to pay almost MSRP ($100 below) for this Silver colored one from El Cerrito Honda in SF Bay Area. I was in a rush to get one so that I and my wife can start commuting separately as my office moved. I wanted to provide some feedback to the board, as I immensely benefited from reading the posts here. We bought this mainly as a compromise between a car and a minivan. (an alternative to a station wagon). We have a 7 month old baby and we needed more space for the Home Depot runs as well. If you have similar requirements this is a good car. The power is sufficient, but not exhilirating (much better than my 93 Accord). Still considering the mileage (24-25mpg) this is a good compromise. The handling is surely not like that of a car and so the steering is 'lose' as well. But I got used to it (figured the comfortable speed for me to take sharp turns) in a few days. The quality of construction is not like that of Accord of Camry but like that of Civic. Functionally, you dont have climate control, speed sensitive wipers etc) but you do have tinted glass, moonroof/alloy wheels (in EX).
hmm..what else..CRV does not like macho like the Liberty, but I am sure it is roomier, fuel-efficient and (hopefully) trouble free than the Chrysler product. This trouble free point can also be said in comparison with Mazda/Ford Escape, IMHO.
I would have liked to own the Highlander, but I am not sure it is worth the extra money for what I would use the car for. Since I like Honda's pricing strategy (DX, LX, EX) I would like to take a look at the new upcoming Honda SUV (if my money manager lets me in the future..I mean my wife )
I last posted several weeks ago about my parents' CR-V search, and seeing high prices in CT and Westchester County, NY. My parents ended up ordering an EX at MSRP. Well, they took delivery 2 days ago.
First the good news: The parents are very happy with the CR-V so far. I'm very impressed with the roominess and openness of the interior, and the overall utility of the vehicle. The CR-V drives well for what it is. I'm used to a sportier ride than the CR-V, but it's adequate.
Now for the bad news: This could take awhile, so I think I'm going to split this into 2 posts. We (I got roped into doing all the legwork) ordered the car and put down a deposit on January 2. We were told we were being allocated the one Chianti Red CR-V they had available for February delivery. They couldn't give us a date more specific than "sometime in February. Could be early Feb, mid Feb., or late Feb., but we definitely have one coming in that month." So we figured that meant sometime in mid-Feb was the best guess.
Salesperson called us on Jan 11 to tell us the V had shipped. Tells us we may have it by the end of the month. Turns out it was delivered on Jan 22. My aunt and my cousin both had similar experiences when they ordered their Odysseys, when they were initially told of delivery dates some 2 months off, and in fact got the vans some 3-4 weeks early.
While most people would simply be happy they got their cars early, I'm somewhat perplexed how this can happen. The Honda sales and distribution machine can't forecast delivery with greater accuracy than plus/minus 1 month??? With all the software and technology out there, this is the best they can do?
I believe the dealer my parents bought from knew the car was shipping by the 2nd week of January when the order was placed. Actually, how long is a vehicle in transit from Japan? It may have already shipped when we ordered it. I think that in the interest of creating an illusion of greater demand than actually existed, they told us "February."
Has anyone else, particularly in this area, taken delivery weeks earlier than they were initially promised? Anyway, there are definitely '02 LXs sitting on lots now in CT, and I cannot believe that the waiting list for EXs is more than a couple of weeks now.
My other complaint is entirely specific to the dealer, so I'll post is separately. Here's a teaser: getting this CR-V was probably the most unpleasant dealer experience that I have ever had...
The dealer wants to charge MSRP. How can s/he most easily do that? By creating the illusion of great demand. So they tell us it's not available until February. All along they have to know it will be in much sooner.
So I order the car thinking there's 6 weeks worth of buyers lined up for one, when in fact it's more like 2-3 weeks. It's dishonest and helps them pump up the selling price. But like I said (and as your question suggests), most people are thrilled the cars came in "earlier than expected," never bothering to ask how or why it happened.
We had already agreed on a price, so yes, we were happy it came in sooner than expected. But, I would have been a lot less likely to pay MSRP if I had known the real supply/demand.
Regarding the clicking noise coming from the steering column....I realised today that it only happens when you come to complete stop while the car is "drive". It doesn't happen if it is in 2nd or 1st gear. I have a 2002 Crv EX auto and I took it in to the dealer today to have it checked out. The mechanic listened to it and told me he would call tech support in california to see if anyone else has reported the problem before he tried to fix it. He said he hadn't had any other complaints yet. Unfortunately it is hard to detect unless you are trying to hear for it. But once you know it's there it'll drive you crazy.
I bought mine from Main Line Honda just outside of Philly. I know there has been one other person out there that has complained about this (angelica2). Has anybody else experienced this, and if so was the problem resolved.
Okay, I am going to describe the reasons I disliked the buying experience. There is a list below of the specific unpleasant actions of the dealer. These are all things that I have not previously seen in the car buying process (or at least not recently). In the past 10 years, my family has bought a Toyota, 2 Nissans, a Lexus, and a Mitsubishi, but no Hondas. I am not suggesting that all Honda dealers do all the following, but from my experience this time around and from hearing from several others, I do believe some of the following may apply to many Honda dealers.
I won't name the dealer in this post, but I will tell you they are located in a town right near the border of Fairfield and New Haven Counties, right off of a Route whose number is somewhere between 7 and 9. If that doesn't make it clear, drop me an email and I would be delighted to tell you exactly who.
1. The whole delivery date misfire. See posts 5287 & 5289.
2. Aggressive selling of crap. These guys peddle everything there is, from vin-etching to "paint protectant." They wanted $73 for wheel locks, which seems ridiculous to me, although I don't know what other dealers are charging. These guys are shameless: hours before we were going to pick up the car, they called my dad at the office to ask him about paint protectant.
3. They only allow up to $1,000 on a credit card. I look forward to car buying as an opportunity to earn some major points on my cards. When I paid for my Lexus last summer, I put nearly $5,000 on a credit card. These guys can't stomach the 1-2% cut Visa takes when they're selling the car at MSRP?
4. They put a sticker advertising their dealership on the car. To the left of the spare tire in back. WHO PUTS STICKERS ON A BRAND NEW CAR? Unbelievable. They nickel and dime you to death, but feel free to take advantage of our car to use it as a free billboard for themselves. I spent an hour getting it off the next day.
5. They make you sign waiver forms for NOT TAKING the extended warranty and vin-etching. My dad signed all these forms, but I certainly would not have. Signing forms for something I don't want? It makes no sense. It's just a way for them to instill some doubt or regret in your mind one last time about not taking it.
6. Practically begging my parents to give the dealership "Excellent" ratings on the survey. She brought this up twice, telling us something like "Anything less than 90% is unacceptable. Please keep that in mind."
Maybe I have just been lucky, but I have not experienced most of these ever before. Have others had to deal with any of the above?
Several weeks ago there was a discussion about what people want out of dealers (see post #4793). These guys are clearly on the "smile while we screw you" end of the spectrum. When we went to pick the car up, the salesperson spent a good 40 minutes showing us the car, although too much time was spent on stuff that she really had no business talking about like "when to use A/C" or "how to drive with ABS." This whole presentation probably stirs up a mixed response: my parents (particularly my mom) liked it. I liked that she showed us things specific to the CR-V like seat operations, but I did not care for the "general driving tips."
I would recommend avoiding this dealership, unless this is typical of Honda dealers, in which case what difference does it make?
Thankfully the CR-V appears to be worth the effort.
A LOT!! Not just stickers, full emblems/logos that are PERMANENTLY tacked into the car's rear bumper! Our family's Accord still has "Planet Honda" written on a corner of the rear.
My lovely bride and I "ordered" a Chianti red "02 CRV EX in mid-December. We were told that it would be mid-February before the car arrived and two days ago the dealer called us with the VIN. Our buying experience was very satisfactory at St. Johns Honda in Portland, Oregon. Sales Manager, Dan Barney dealt with us personally and it took all of 15 minutes to strike a deal. Most Honda dealers in our area are asking for anywhere from $2K - $3K over MSRP and try to load you up with every phony accessory in the catalogue. We are paying MSRP ($22740) and got fair trade for our "98 Sonoma pickup. No hassles and no typical dealer BS. We are RV'ers and the flat-tow capability with the automatic transmission is what tipped us toward the CRV. The Toyota Hilander is a really great vehicle but about $5K more money and about another $1100 to get it tow-ready. Our other car is a '99 Accord EX which has proven very satisfactory (75K miles and like new) with only normal maintenance items. For Portland area Honda shoppers, St Johns Honda is really hard to beat. We hit most of them and waltzed through the same old shuck and jive. Very refreshing and when we buy our last new vehicle in two years at retirement, I am certain that St. Johns Honda will be in the picture.
When I bought my 2000 EX, it was a straight-up no-hassle deal for just the car. No attempts to add on any accessories or anything superfluous. I could see that the VIN was already etched on every window and on several locations in the engine compartment -- I just figured that this was done at the factory as standard operating procedure. Where else would extra etching go?
You know how the pre-2002 CR-V came with a tire cover reading "Honda CR-V"? Well, two Decembers ago, we were vacationing in Knoxville, Tennessee. I immediately began pitying my fellow CR-V owners who had their covers modified to read "Airport Honda CR-V." Yes, these poor folks are driving around with their dealer's name silkscreened in three-inch-high lettering on the back of their vehicle!
I'd be going with the "naked-spare" look from Day One if it was mine. . . .
Diploid: The last car we bought that had permanently tacked on dealer logos was a 1979 Chevy Impala. You may want to request "no dealer markings" next time you buy at Planet Honda.
Slugline: Vin-etching on the windows. Your Accord came with window vin-etching at no extra charge?
I picked up our '02 CR-V EX auto about a week before Christmas and have been generally quite pleased so far with all aspects of the vehicle.
I do have the rocking seat phenomena like some others, but haven't heard the clicking noise yet. I'm usually listening to the stereo, so next time out I'll keep it turned off and see if I have this problem as well. I see that not everyone has the rocking seat problem, so this would seem to indicate that this is not/should not be normal, and the dealer should be able to perform some type of fix. Is this an accurate statement?
I was only able to put about 300 miles of so-called "break in" miles on mine before I had to take a road trip from Michigan to Texas and back. I tried to not use cruise control until I had racked up maybe 500-600 miles and varied the speed somewhat between 60-70 MPH during that time. After that I used the cruise quite a bit. Does anyone feel that this would have any adverse effects on the engine?
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To distinguish it from a certain cross-shopped vehicle. ;-)
Or maybe Recognize Additional Value 4 years to come.
-juice
Not really. Honda joint got the alphabet soup first, by about thirty three years (T360, S500).
Here is an interesting link about more alphanumeric Honda soup,
http://users.tinyonline.co.uk/sheikh/cars/Honda/HondaCars.htm
Recreational
Vehicle.
[i think]
Never could figure why the hyphen.
-juice
rockycow
varmit Jan 23, 2002 8:02pm
isellhondas Jan 24, 2002 7:50am
Any 2002 owners out there know if this is a feature on the new V? I can't find any info about this on Honda's site (it's not mentioned for the Ody either!).
Roll back couple of pages you will see the original post. Good luck!
-juice
Yesssssssssss!!!!!!!!!
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vehicles manufactured between September and December last year
because computer controlled systems for the vehicles' engine
operations were incorrectly programmed.
The faulty programme could result in excessive emissions of
harmful substances in exhaust fumes, Honda said.
Honda testified at a Senate Commerce Committee hearing that the preliminary results of a new Honda study are that the weight of the average vehicle can be reduced by 100 pounds with only a "very small and not statistically significant" effect.
All of this relates to a possible increase in the CAFE rules on light trucks. A trade group representing many manufacturers other than Honda argued that the NHTSA rather than Congress should make the decision on the CAFE level.
A Commerce Commitee aide mentioned the possibility of coupling together a change in the CAFE standard with a requirement for stronger SUV roofs to protect occupants in rollovers.
odds009 - congrat. on you new V!
samstr & angelica2 -
I don't have clicking noise from the steering column, no seat rocking problem either. I even drove it a couple of days without the radio/cd on trying to listen to any clicking noise. Don't settle for the dealer's explaination. Ask when the next new V comes in, have the dealer proves it is a characteristic on the newly arrived Vs. I did have some rattle at the back, but it turns out to be seat belt for the middle passenger in the back. I buckled the middle seatbelt and the rattle went away.
bestofdixie - the negative terminal of the battery is the reference(ground). Most electronics don't like to be plugged/unplugged "hot". Removing the reference makes it safe, kind of like birds sitting on power line.
jquant - yeah, share the pictures.
Anybody installed the cladding by himself/herself? It looks like a lot of work from the instruction. Personally I like the look without the cladding, but it is sure practical.
"Based roughly on the CR-V sport-utility, the RD-X is made to haul mountain bikes to the country on the weekend after navigating in a congested city during the week." Concept version has a 250 HP 4 cyl (guess that would mean premium fuel)powering the front wheels and 2 25 hp engines for the rear wheels, along with a six speed "clutchless manual transmission." (What's that?).
The design studio that did the Pilot did the RD-X. Story said that it might be difficult to build that concept vehicle as displayed. But it then quoted the head of the studio as saying, "But we don't do anything we don't want to build."
Makes sense that if the MD-X become a Honda, that the CR-V could also become an Acura.
Also said the rear door opens in the middle. (Would that mean the spare mounted underneath the vehicle?)
I tried to link to the story, but the Auto Section wasn't even listed at gazette.com. It was a Knight Ridder story, so probably a syndicated story running in many other papers.
Thanks
http://www.honda-newsletter.co.uk/jan2002/generation/index.html#sub
We bought this mainly as a compromise between a car and a minivan. (an alternative to a station wagon). We have a 7 month old baby and we needed more space for the Home Depot runs as well. If you have similar requirements this is a good car. The power is sufficient, but not exhilirating (much better than my 93 Accord). Still considering the mileage (24-25mpg) this is a good compromise. The handling is surely not like that of a car and so the steering is 'lose' as well. But I got used to it (figured the comfortable speed for me to take sharp turns) in a few days.
The quality of construction is not like that of Accord of Camry but like that of Civic. Functionally, you dont have climate control, speed sensitive wipers etc) but you do have tinted glass, moonroof/alloy wheels (in EX).
hmm..what else..CRV does not like macho like the Liberty, but I am sure it is roomier, fuel-efficient and (hopefully) trouble free than the Chrysler product. This trouble free point can also be said in comparison with Mazda/Ford Escape, IMHO.
I would have liked to own the Highlander, but I am not sure it is worth the extra money for what I would use the car for. Since I like Honda's pricing strategy (DX, LX, EX) I would like to take a look at the new upcoming Honda SUV (if my money manager lets me in the future..I mean my wife
First the good news: The parents are very happy with the CR-V so far. I'm very impressed with the roominess and openness of the interior, and the overall utility of the vehicle. The CR-V drives well for what it is. I'm used to a sportier ride than the CR-V, but it's adequate.
Now for the bad news: This could take awhile, so I think I'm going to split this into 2 posts. We (I got roped into doing all the legwork) ordered the car and put down a deposit on January 2. We were told we were being allocated the one Chianti Red CR-V they had available for February delivery. They couldn't give us a date more specific than "sometime in February. Could be early Feb, mid Feb., or late Feb., but we definitely have one coming in that month." So we figured that meant sometime in mid-Feb was the best guess.
Salesperson called us on Jan 11 to tell us the V had shipped. Tells us we may have it by the end of the month. Turns out it was delivered on Jan 22. My aunt and my cousin both had similar experiences when they ordered their Odysseys, when they were initially told of delivery dates some 2 months off, and in fact got the vans some 3-4 weeks early.
While most people would simply be happy they got their cars early, I'm somewhat perplexed how this can happen. The Honda sales and distribution machine can't forecast delivery with greater accuracy than plus/minus 1 month??? With all the software and technology out there, this is the best they can do?
I believe the dealer my parents bought from knew the car was shipping by the 2nd week of January when the order was placed. Actually, how long is a vehicle in transit from Japan? It may have already shipped when we ordered it. I think that in the interest of creating an illusion of greater demand than actually existed, they told us "February."
Has anyone else, particularly in this area, taken delivery weeks earlier than they were initially promised? Anyway, there are definitely '02 LXs sitting on lots now in CT, and I cannot believe that the waiting list for EXs is more than a couple of weeks now.
My other complaint is entirely specific to the dealer, so I'll post is separately. Here's a teaser: getting this CR-V was probably the most unpleasant dealer experience that I have ever had...
Still...why was that a problem? I would think you would be happy!
Perhaps the salesperson padded the time so he could under promise and over deliver?
But, it sounds like the dealer problems were deeper than just this.
The dealer wants to charge MSRP. How can s/he most easily do that? By creating the illusion of great demand. So they tell us it's not available until February. All along they have to know it will be in much sooner.
So I order the car thinking there's 6 weeks worth of buyers lined up for one, when in fact it's more like 2-3 weeks. It's dishonest and helps them pump up the selling price. But like I said (and as your question suggests), most people are thrilled the cars came in "earlier than expected," never bothering to ask how or why it happened.
We had already agreed on a price, so yes, we were happy it came in sooner than expected. But, I would have been a lot less likely to pay MSRP if I had known the real supply/demand.
Have fun.......
I bought mine from Main Line Honda just outside of Philly. I know there has been one other person out there that has complained about this (angelica2). Has anybody else experienced this, and if so was the problem resolved.
I won't name the dealer in this post, but I will tell you they are located in a town right near the border of Fairfield and New Haven Counties, right off of a Route whose number is somewhere between 7 and 9. If that doesn't make it clear, drop me an email and I would be delighted to tell you exactly who.
1. The whole delivery date misfire. See posts 5287 & 5289.
2. Aggressive selling of crap. These guys peddle everything there is, from vin-etching to "paint protectant." They wanted $73 for wheel locks, which seems ridiculous to me, although I don't know what other dealers are charging. These guys are shameless: hours before we were going to pick up the car, they called my dad at the office to ask him about paint protectant.
3. They only allow up to $1,000 on a credit card. I look forward to car buying as an opportunity to earn some major points on my cards. When I paid for my Lexus last summer, I put nearly $5,000 on a credit card. These guys can't stomach the 1-2% cut Visa takes when they're selling the car at MSRP?
4. They put a sticker advertising their dealership on the car. To the left of the spare tire in back. WHO PUTS STICKERS ON A BRAND NEW CAR? Unbelievable. They nickel and dime you to death, but feel free to take advantage of our car to use it as a free billboard for themselves. I spent an hour getting it off the next day.
5. They make you sign waiver forms for NOT TAKING the extended warranty and vin-etching. My dad signed all these forms, but I certainly would not have. Signing forms for something I don't want? It makes no sense. It's just a way for them to instill some doubt or regret in your mind one last time about not taking it.
6. Practically begging my parents to give the dealership "Excellent" ratings on the survey. She brought this up twice, telling us something like "Anything less than 90% is unacceptable. Please keep that in mind."
Maybe I have just been lucky, but I have not experienced most of these ever before. Have others had to deal with any of the above?
Several weeks ago there was a discussion about what people want out of dealers (see post #4793). These guys are clearly on the "smile while we screw you" end of the spectrum. When we went to pick the car up, the salesperson spent a good 40 minutes showing us the car, although too much time was spent on stuff that she really had no business talking about like "when to use A/C" or "how to drive with ABS." This whole presentation probably stirs up a mixed response: my parents (particularly my mom) liked it. I liked that she showed us things specific to the CR-V like seat operations, but I did not care for the "general driving tips."
I would recommend avoiding this dealership, unless this is typical of Honda dealers, in which case what difference does it make?
Thankfully the CR-V appears to be worth the effort.
I'd be going with the "naked-spare" look from Day One if it was mine. . . .
Yes, these poor folks are driving around with their dealer's name silkscreened in three-inch-high lettering on the back of their vehicle!
I wonder if they were also charged an advertising fee for the privilege of carrying the emblem! ;-)
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And also i found some extra charges suddenly appear on the finance sheet which was just mailed to me.
Seems my post-buying feeling is not a good one.
Slugline: Vin-etching on the windows. Your Accord came with window vin-etching at no extra charge?
I do have the rocking seat phenomena like some others, but haven't heard the clicking noise yet. I'm usually listening to the stereo, so next time out I'll keep it turned off and see if I have this problem as well. I see that not everyone has the rocking seat problem, so this would seem to indicate that this is not/should not be normal, and the dealer should be able to perform some type of fix. Is this an accurate statement?
I was only able to put about 300 miles of so-called "break in" miles on mine before I had to take a road trip from Michigan to Texas and back. I tried to not use cruise control until I had racked up maybe 500-600 miles and varied the speed somewhat between 60-70 MPH during that time. After that I used the cruise quite a bit. Does anyone feel that this would have any adverse effects on the engine?