2001 - 2006 Honda CR-Vs

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  • phillyguy3phillyguy3 Member Posts: 88
    My daughter borrowed my CR-V and when she went to return it, she backed into an electric pole. The bumper crumpled like a a tissue paper in the rain! I am so disgusted that I am thinking of getting rid of it after I get it repaired. Don't have estimates yet, but I expect that they will have to replace the bumper. She was only going 3mph for 6 feet( I was there ). If it's that fragile, I can't imagine what would happen if I got rear ended. I think I'll go out shopping for other vehicles just to relieve the stress.
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    phillyguy3,
    Goodluck finding another car with a stronger bumper! I guess you will have to get a VW Beetle....

    Car manufacturers need to fix the bumpers n the cars, all of them are weak except a very few.

    BTW I had a guy back into me going about 5 to 8 mph and he hit my front end, No damage except for the liscense plate...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    blue: also consider the Mitsu Outlander, given your experience. The RAV4 and Forester are also reliable.


    The CR-V didn't fare well in the IIHS bumper basher, either, with $2700+ worth of damage in their rear-into-a-pole test.


    FWIW, the Forester suffered less than 10% as much damage in that same test:


    http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/low_speed_smsuv.htm


    -juice

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That's a safe bet. The Accord is all new, and the carry-over models seem to be getting tiny increases.

    That's good, inflation was 1.8% last year, so any less is the same as a price cut, effectively.

    -juice
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    Great link to figure a fun size tire for your vehicle!!!


    http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    "If it's that fragile, I can't imagine what would happen if I got rear ended."

    I feel for you, Phillguy. The CR-V's bumper performance is poor. No doubt about it. However, I would not be overly concerned with safety based on that experience. Low speed impacts do not come close to testing the safety crush zones.

    As Juice mentioned, there are several small SUV with much better bumper performance, but are you willing to take a $1,000 hit on a vehicle because of a $300 crash?
  • phillyguy3phillyguy3 Member Posts: 88
    Just came back from dealer collision center. Total cost(bumper,lenses,tailgate) $1500!! I will still need to have it repaired. My daughter will be responsible for the tab(all grown up,married.kids).
    My concern is ongoing possibilities. I have seen where if you hit the tailgate straight on, there is a possibilitity that the wheel and entire glass will destruct. I knew this going in, but it doesn't hit you until something happens. Of course, stuff could happen on any vehicle,and I may be overreacting since my CR-V is only 6 weeks old, but still, it's a wake up call. Once I calm down, I will probably come to the same conclusion that made the CR-V my choice in the first place--- Most SUV for the bucks, best track record, highest resale--sounds like I'm doing a selling job on myself.
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    just don't crash it anymore!!! j/k :)

    My current car was rear ended in the rear bumper in a parking lot, causing some bumper damage and a slight bend in the side sheet metal. The repair estimate was around $2000, and my insurance would have had to pay. I've been driving it that way for over 4 years :) I thought about getting a new bumper cover, etc, and fixing it myself, but it always seemed like a waste of money since it didn't look that bad.

    If it's only your bumper that's damaged, you might be able to buy a new bumper cover and new bumper pads and replace it yourself for significantly less. Body work should be left for the pro's, however :)

    Good luck, hope it works out for you.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    You don't have collision insurance? For $1500 I'd consider a claim.

    But if you do pay for it yourself, consider ordering the parts from Handa and then having a local body shop install them, I bet it saves you a bundle.

    -juice
  • mainemanxmainemanx Member Posts: 70
    Two words:

    IN SURANCE?

    Won't "they" cover it? Notwithstanding the effect on your rates :-(

    P.S. Oops ... great minds thinking alike at the same time :-) & I concur with the Handa advice ...
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    or install them yourself. bumper covers and lights aren't body work, and you can always tell everyone you rebuilt it :)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Thanks. :-)

    If you file a claim, your rates may go up by about $100-200 a year or so, but only for 3 years. Industry standard is to wipe that off your record after 3 years.

    Better yet, she was driving, let her insurance pay for the claim. The extra $150 per year she pays will make her drive more carefully and safely, I bet.

    -juice
  • tomsrtomsr Member Posts: 325
    I don't know what the big deal is about backing
    into a pole.If you back up without looking you should not be driving.If someone rear ends you the force will be more widely distributed and not as bad as a pole.The person who hits you has a
    problem because his insurance will go up and if he does not have insurance your uninsured motorist
    coverage is there.I have always wandered what
    happens when an uninsured motorist causes an accident,does he lose his license,or get his car impounded,take away his birthday?Since there are
    thousands of people driving without insurance and
    license on any given day what is the threat?You
    can say it is about personal responsibility but
    in today's world nobody wants to be accountable.
    All in all I think the CRV should have real bumpers like the Forester but that would raise the price.We need to change the laws that made two classes of vehicles a truck or a car.If it is
    a truck it does not have to have bumpers.
  • orangelebaronorangelebaron Member Posts: 435
    The bumpers on the CR-V are an absolute joke. There is no reason it should cost more to buy this car with a bumper beam and some energy absorbing material. There are cheaper cars that have better bumpers. And I think most people would gladly pay $100 more for the CR-V knowing that if they accidently back into a short stanchion at low speed, they won't get $2000 damage.
    Yes, I know the CR-V did well in the crash tests, but it can have decent bumpers as well. By the way, I happened to see a CR-V that was rear ended and it was pretty nasty damage. The back was crushed like a soda can.
    Honda should be embarrassed by the IIHS bumper results and fix this immediately.
    I was very interested in the CR-V but had doubts because the bumpers look so flimsy (this is New York) and then the IIHS results confirmed my feelings.
  • mmann1mmann1 Member Posts: 1
    May be a few days late for the subject, but according to my GPS Nav system (Garmin Street Pilot III) my speedometer is within a mile per hour.

    Isn't there a way to re-calibrate the speedo for bigger tires? you used to be able to get different size speedo drive gear. I suppose the speed info now comes from a sensor instead of a gear in the tranny, so it should be even easier.
  • surfactantsurfactant Member Posts: 36
    Is amsoil good synthetic oil?? I'm having a hard time finding 5w 20 oil where I live. I can order this amsoil oil and have it delivered to me. I have read something about it but could not find the thread. aNY help appreciated. Mark
  • jeffk59jeffk59 Member Posts: 1
    Hello everyone, Does anyone have/know of/know where to find any rollover information on all CR-V models. My wife and I are considering this 'crossover' vehicle, but with the wheelbase at only 103 inches, we are a bit skeptical without the correct information. Thank you for your help.

    Jeff
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I haven't followed it for a little while, but there's usually some Amsoil posts in the Synthetic motor oil discussion.



    The NHTSA has "rollover" information - the CR-V rates 3 stars, which is as high as most SUVs have earned to date, except for the 4 star Aztek and probably a few others I don't recall.


    Steve

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    SUVs, Vans and Aftermarket & Accessories Message Boards

  • mainemanxmainemanx Member Posts: 70
    Jeffk59 - " ... but with the wheelbase at only 103 inches ... "

    Wow! Are you expecting it to roll/flip end-to-end? I think I'd start with - or at least be more interested in - track and center of mass ... or something like that :-)
  • phillyguy3phillyguy3 Member Posts: 88
    My daughter's insurance would pay for the damage but my son- in -law doesn't want to file a claim. BTW, There is some tailgate damage, so the gate has to be repaired and repainted. I will be taking it to my own body guy to see if the savings is worth it. I tend to be pretty anal about keeping my cars in perfect condition and I understand the paint job has several layers and a clear coat to restore it to original condition. We'll see. Meanwhile, on a completely different subject, the wind noise coming from the roof rack is pretty pronounced, so I'll be taking it to the dealer. I read B4 that the rails can be reversed to eliminate this noise. I don't want the dealer to tell me that there is no fix,so any other info would be helpful.
  • barcinobarcino Member Posts: 8
    Hi I got my new 2002 CRV EX on Friday.
    I love it so far. My only question is when I am at a light on Drive and breaking I notice some ratteling on the steering wheel. It is worse if the AC is on. It is not terrible but noticeable and at some points I notice it on my seat as well. It only happens when it is on drive and I am stopped on traffic. Once I start going it drives great.

    Let me know if this is normal. If it is not I am taking it back to the dealer for them to check out. Also I am pretty sure the dealer told me that other than not drive the CRV rough at the beginning I did not need to do anything to break it in. Is this true? I hope so!!

    Thanks!
  • pgertkenpgertken Member Posts: 1
    I have only had my CRV for 2 weeks and love it so far. The only problem I am having is there seems to be a slight squeak coming from the back on the drivers side.

    Anybody else had anything like this?

    I can not re-create it by rocking it back and forth, but I am assuming that it is something in the suspension.

    I would take it to the dealer if I thought they could find it quickly, but I have plenty of warranty remaining so it is not critical.
  • crv4me2crv4me2 Member Posts: 15
    I have had a new CR-V for almost a month now, and have had NO squeaks or rattles. If those squeaks and rattles are annoying you, I would call your salesperson immediately while the deal is still fresh and while their hopes of getting all 5's on the survey is a concern. I would think it could be taken care of very quickly.
  • barcinobarcino Member Posts: 8
    More than a ratteling is a vibration. I know I am not driving a Pilot but I really dont remember the vibration on the CRVs I test drove. I am going to call. I hope they can fix it because I would hate to get a new car with a defect! (This is our first new car purchase)
    BTW how is honda when it comes to service? We have had Nissans before but never Hondas.

    Thanks!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    FWIW, Amsoil is a reputable company that also makes foam-type air filters for many applications.

    Jeff: for the compact class, 103" is a pretty long wheelbase.

    philly: the roof rails should look like air plane wings, i.e. with the round end pointed forward, the sharp end to the back. This is a very common issue with Foresters (they all have cross bars standard).

    I imagine there is a 1000 mile break-in period, which is industry standard, but I'll let one of the regulars chime in.

    -juice
  • dtruong8dtruong8 Member Posts: 27
    My CR-V is just past the 4000 mark in its mileage. I'm just wondering when do I have to take the CR-V in to the dealer for its first oil change? Since my wife drives the car, the car is driven very carefully, rarely revving the heck out of the engine. I remember some numbers flying around in the forum something like 3000 to 5000, but I'm not so sure.

    I heard from people getting free oil changes from their dealers if you regularly take the CR-V there for maintenance. How does this work out anyways?

    Thanks for your input!!!
  • fern88fern88 Member Posts: 42
    Hey All,

    So I've had my Silver EX now for 4 months and have 5000 miles on it. I think I'm noticing it making more noises when I go from reverse to drive and back. I've always have had some minor popping noises but they seem to be getting louder. I also have had a smell which I'm not sure if it's from the car but it smells a little like rotting eggs. I've smelled it 3 times so far and I was in different areas of the city I live in so I don't think it's an outdoor smell.

    Any suggestions?
  • arkydogarkydog Member Posts: 50
    Here's one I haven't seen mentioned yet in this forum:

    When I power up the driver's window in my new 02 LX 5-spd (1800 mi), it automatically reverses at the top and comes back down to wherever it was last open before it stops. The only way to keep the window up is to hold onto the "up" button for a few seconds when I first power up. Is this normal and if so, why would Honda design it this way?
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    arkydog,

    That is a flaw, you should power up and it should stop when it reaches the top. Try this....

    Turn on your CRV:
    1) Hold the driver window button down until it reaches the bottom and keep holding the button down for an additional 10 seconds.
    2) Hold the driver button up until it reaches the top and keep holding the button up for an additional 10 seconds.

    Then try auto up again and see if this fixes your problem! Let me know how it went!
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    Has anyone tried to unbolt the rear seats in the 2002, so they can be removed?

    Honda should really make these removable, I can't sleep in the back of my new CRV like I could in the 1st generation! Without the seats it would plenty big in the back.
  • rerenov8rrerenov8r Member Posts: 380
    The powers that be at Honda have split up the functionality of the CR-V and bestoyed some features upon the Element.
  • erics6erics6 Member Posts: 684
    I'm helping my sister-n-law buy a new 2002 CRV this weekend. Any suggestions on competitive prices in the Seattle area? She wants an EX 5 speed.
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    noises going from reverse to forward are probably brake pads shifting. I have this also. It doesn't bother me too much, but if it bothers you, the dealer might be able to put some pad compound that might keep them from sliding around?
  • phillyguy3phillyguy3 Member Posts: 88
    The roof rails go Across the top. Therefore,there is no front or back. I looked at it closely and it seems that there is a slight gap where the rails meet the brackets. I'll keep you posted when I take it in for 1st oil change.
    Re: Bumper bash,etc.-- The gate will have to be repainted after the dent is repaired. Although I have a very good body shop, I am concerned about matching the original finish. Someone told me it's a 4 step process. Any input??
  • theracoontheracoon Member Posts: 666
    phillyguy said: Re: Bumper bash,etc.-- The gate will have to be repainted after the dent is repaired. Although I have a very good body shop, I am concerned about matching the original finish. Someone told me it's a 4 step process. Any input??

    Last December my '99 CR-V was hit while it was parked, destroying the right rear door and damaging the right rear corner and the rear bumper skin. Estimate was about $3,500. I took it to a local Honda dealer since the other guys insurance was paying for it. The estimate specifically included painting, clear coating, and then color matching with the surrounding panels. My CR-V is Milano Red. Looking at it in bright sunlight you can't tell that it's been painted.

    Good luck!
  • arkydogarkydog Member Posts: 50
    Daveghh,

    I tried what you suggested a couple of times, but the driver's window still reverses after coming up and then goes back down part-way.

    In addition, I noticed that if I hold the driver's ("Auto") window button in either direction for a few seconds after it has seated up or down, the button becomes inoperative for about 10 seconds until it responds again. That could induce panic in a car fire or similar "gotta get out" situation.

    Has anyone else noticed this problem? The only way I have control of the driver's Auto window button is making the window come down in very short (1-second) increments. Otherwise, I have no control -- Auto either makes the window fly down or up and then partway back down if I hold the button for longer than a split second.

    Any other ideas -- or is this a service item?
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    sounds like a window that thinks it's not correctly adjusted height-wise, so it keeps going when it hits the top, and backs up because it thinks it is trapping something. I would take it in if you're still under warranty, definitely.
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    arkydog,
    sorry it didn't work it sounds like a service item to me.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Robmarch's explanation sounds pretty good to me.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Check the insulation around the glass along the window frame. On a previous car I had the rubber twist out of shape and it kept catching.

    The power window may reverse automatically thinking it's a kid's finger or something. Hey, at least you know that safety mechanism works.

    -juice
  • mainemanxmainemanx Member Posts: 70
    Has anyone ordered a 2003 and received a VIN number from their dealer?

    Swindon or Sayama?

    Prolly no ETA, but how about a build date?
  • saber86saber86 Member Posts: 128
    If vin starts with S, its built in england. If vin starts with J, its built in Japan. I don't see demand falling off for Cr-V anytime soon and i suspect honda will continue to manufacture at both countries to keep up with the demand.
  • acor2acor2 Member Posts: 16
    from College Hills Honda website (Ohio):
    Their "first allocation" with production date.
    Sure would be nice to know the 03 prices.....

    - 2003 Cr-v First Allocation
    - Cr-v EX Auto in Eternal Blue Metallic 0916
    - Cr-v EX 5spd in Mojave Mist Metallic 0913
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    21,511 units for the Liberty...I've never seen another small SUV rack up that much in sales for a month!
  • fern88fern88 Member Posts: 42
    Thanks robmarch,

    Overall the sound does not bother me as much as the smell. The smell is getting worse...... I can smell it if I leave the car idle in the garage for 1 min. I'm taking to the dealer tomorrow morning...... I read online that it could be the catalytic converter.
  • warren19warren19 Member Posts: 28
    diploid: I was wondering about that number myself. I thought it was a typo or something, maybe it's 12,511 :-) That's a pretty amazing jump in sales!
  • barcinobarcino Member Posts: 8
    Hi there!

    I am taking my brand new 02 EX Silver CRV to the dealer tomorrow. I told them about the vibration when idle (stopped at a light) and they said to bring it in and that they would provide me with a rental car while they look it over.

    I am trying to find out if other people have this issue so please do let me know if you have vibration while stopped at a light for example. Every time I am on Drive or reverse for that matter and I have my foot on the break the steering wheel and my seat have quite a bit of vibration/rattling. I didn't see this on the test drives and I sure dont think it is normal for a brand new car.

    I will update on what they say. Hopefully they will fix if not I am going to go test drive others again and if they are free of this issue I wont stop until they fix the issue or replace the car. Hopefully I wont have to get to that point!
  • barcinobarcino Member Posts: 8
    I was reading today on the 02 owner's manual that some sulfur smell is normal. I dont quite remember where I read it section wise. If I am not mistaken Sulfur does smell like rotten eggs. You might want to try reading through the manual to see if you can locate it to see what explanation they give. If I find it I will let you know the page.
  • mainemanxmainemanx Member Posts: 70
    Having spent several years in the deserts of Iran (Masjid i Sulieman and Abadan) I can confirm that your catalytic convertor may emit hydrogen sulfide, the God-awful (or Allah-awful) smell of rotten eggs ... brimstone being of course, sulfur.

    Burning gas, ignited by lightning strikes, from oil wells ... smells like "Hell" ... uhhhh, "Behave, or you'll be condemned to stand out there in the hot, smelly, burning ..." You get the picture:

    Bill ... P.S. I hear it's even hotter down below :-)
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