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Jeep Wrangler



  • jacorobjacorob Posts: 37
    Nice looking jeep. Though i think some vandals got to yur license plate - from the looks of it U of Michigan fans. ;)


    PS - i'm a wolverine. hehe
  • nkelly1nkelly1 Posts: 105
    I had a few things to do last night, before the sun went down. I was talking to a guy at a ORV store in Tacoma today. He told me that when DC bought out Chrysler, there was a clause in the deal that they couldn't lay a hand on the wrangler. Anyone hear about this? He went on the say that they had build a plant in Ohio specially for the wrangler and the liberty is what DC is offering……. good news if its true.

    Any how I have been contemplating the "real" jeep question and have come up with my own ideas….. nothing solid yet, I will post them in a while.
  • dwranglerdwrangler Posts: 127
    Just wondering. I fell asleep watching the cardinal game....and brother did it get bad. Nice pictures of the jeep. Those pictures keep me going. Hope to see you all there tonight.

    Hug your Jeeps for me today :-)

  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    Don't believe it . Like the Chrysler is going to put a clause in about the Wrangler , a low volume vehicle . But forget about the GC , Minivans and LH cars, all high volume money makers . Don't think so.
    The built a new plant for the Liberty was because the Toledo Parkway plant( it built Cherokee and still makes Wrangler bodies) was one, if not the oldest assembly plant in the U.S . So building a new state of the art product needs a high tech plant.FYI- Did you also know that Wrangler bodies are still built in the old Parkway plant, painted then trucked on a semi trailer to the Stickney plant were the bodies are unloaded and built up.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Man, I am so glad you are posting again! You are a great source of info for all of us.

    Why don't you really fill us in on the process of building a Jeep (Wrangler, that is)?

    Could you post some links to info on the whole process? I think we would all enjoy learning more about how our babies are built.

    Tell us what happens from the day our order is accepted until our Jeep rolls off the line.

    You said you used to build them, right? (When they were made in Canada)

    Is there some nice long article somewhere that describes the whole process? If not, could you take the time to write up something and post it?

    You da man!


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Your Jeep didn't make it in time for the weekend, huh? That would have been pushing it, I guess.

    I am anxiously awaiting your post announcing that you have that Jeep.

    Hope it won't be more than a couple days now.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • madman390madman390 Posts: 72
    I posted a couple of pics in the picture section, both here and at Gill's.

    I've seen a few American-made cars here, but not very many. I guess that makes this Wrangler stick out even more. I also got some pics of a really nice Cherokee, but I haven't posted those yet.

    I've got 2 more weeks here in Japan, and a little longer than that till I get to pick up my Jeep. I can't wait.

    Hope everybody had a good 4th, and amid all the parades, fireworks, and beer, had a second or two to think about what it really is all about. The freedom to choose the most impractical, gas-guzzling, non-conformist, fun-to-drive vehicle ever built!

  • saharagalsaharagal Posts: 88
    Thanks for asking Tsjay. The sales manager hasn't been able to find out exactly where it is at this point, but on Friday the Norfolk Southern web site said that the railcar had been emptied.

    I'll talk to the dealer again today. It just might get here this weekend! Maybe today, for all I know. I already told them to take their time prepping it! I'm going to take my checklist from Twylie with me to the dealership.

    I'll definitely keep you posted!

  • madman390madman390 Posts: 72
    Laura: Hope you are able to pick up your Jeep soon. Let us know how the checklist goes for you. I "acquired" it from several other websites and tried to modify it to fit Jeeps (with some inputs from members of this board). But not having picked up mine yet, I am not able to cofidently edit that checklist.

    So if you do use it, let us know how it applied, and what should be added or removed.

    Good luck!

  • jeepboy727jeepboy727 Posts: 14
    Whats this about a checklist? Any info would be appreciated.

  • dwranglerdwrangler Posts: 127
    Yeah, please repeat that checklist. Although it may be awhile before I can afford to get my baby I want to be as prepared as possible when that time comes.

    Boy last nights chat was short. Hopefully we'll have a good one tonight. I'm still not sure about tomorrow night. I'll be leaving in the morning for a family reunion and I'm not sure when I'll be getting back. If I get back by 8:30 or later, I'll check in to see if anyone is still on


    I hope that you don't have too much longer to wait...the wait must be killing you, I know it would be me.

    Hug your Jeeps for me today :-)

  • nkelly1nkelly1 Posts: 105
    I am still on the hunt for a trailer. I may have found a source for those WWII trailers that were made for the jeep. I was told some of them have a built in (or on) gas tank.

    ottowrkr - (or anyone else) I found an ORV store that sells the computerized combustion control chips (or what ever they are called now), is there a good "brand" of these things? Then he said something about an "atomizer" that mounts under the throttle body that is suppose to increase your power, real or snake oil?

    Saharagal - Glad to see your getting closer, but you know what "they" say about a watched pot (or in this case jeep).

    jeepboy _ good to see your still with us.
  • dwranglerdwrangler Posts: 127
    Which format is better for chat, java or applet? I was just looking over my preferences and was wondering. I'll be checking this board and chat room at different times of the day today.

    Hug your Jeeps for me today :-)

  • wheelshighwheelshigh Posts: 30
    Hey, I have seen many of those WW trailors. Last summer I helped my Jeep parts supplier move 50 of those what a job. Anyway I know he was selling them for around 350 bucks but I'm not sure he has any left....they did sell fast. I never saw any with a gas tank...I know there were two kinds though, ones with rounded fenders which are older and worth more $$, and the ones with square fenders. If you have any more questions on them let me know.
  • nkelly1nkelly1 Posts: 105
    I do have another question. How can I get one?
  • bamatazzbamatazz Posts: 311
    for TAZZ..what a beatiful day..
    A little hot..but thats ok with me..
    Might rain tomorrow so I gotta get my top up.

    Saharagal..Almost there girl..we are with ya

    madman..Grat to see ya posting again..I'm sure you cant wait to get back to the USA. Keep us posted!

    Keep Jeepin!
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    NKELLY wrote-"computerized combustion control chips (or what ever they are called now), is there a good "brand" of these things? Then he said something about an "atomizer" that mounts under the throttle body that is suppose to increase your power, real or snake oil? - IMO, I don't believe any of that secret gas atomizer stuff . If it really worked don't you think it would be on new cars. DC would love to have a 100 M.P.G Jeep Wrangler, they would sell three times what they sell now. If your really worried about gas mileage ,man you guys sure picked the wrong vehicle to buy. This thing is a box on wheels . It has the aerodynamics of a brick.Don't get me wrong I love these things , but you got to remember what your driving.

    Tsjay- you want me to tell you how the jeep is built ? Man that would take some doing. .All I can tell you when we built the Jeep Wrangler from 87-92 in Brampton Canada, it was very low tech. No robots or anything like that. All welding was done with these huge welding machines run by line workers. The paint was all hand sprayed . We didn't even use clearcoat. We used to build one jeep every 2.5 minutes . If you really want to see why not write a letter to the Toledo plant with all your members of this TJ club and ask to have a plant tour. I bet they would be happy to show the people who bought there products around.
  • saharagalsaharagal Posts: 88
    Well, I spoke with the sales manager this afternoon--no Sahara yet! He guesses it hasn't been loaded onto a truck yet. Probably be early next week. BUMMER!

    Keep posting, please!!

    Laura (AKA Saharalessgal)
  • dwranglerdwrangler Posts: 127
    I feel your pain. I went to the dealer today just to drive a Sahara to get my fix for awhile. I wanted to take the top down, but I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to get it back up before I headed back to the dealer.

    I have about two more years on my firebird loan. Until then (and a better job), I'll just keep going by the three or four local jeep dealers and test driving them.

    Hope to see you all in the chat room.

    Hug your Jeeps for me today ;-)
  • ispygatorispygator Posts: 14
    DC has extended their friends program. If you know ANYONE that works for DC, they can give you a code number that will get you invoice less 2% of the invoice price. I believe the Employee Price is 5% below invoice. The dealer actually makes more on a Friends sale then on a regular one where the buyer knows his/her stuff. Instead of selling for invoice plus $100-$200, they get their full dealer holdback (3%) on retail window sticker, and they get 2% of invoice for taking care of the deal (about $500). Employees are allowed to obtain 2 codes per quarter for Friends as of July 1st. I think the promotion runs thru December 31, 2001.

    Start thinking about who you know.... factory workers, regional offices, Chrysler Financial
  • madman390madman390 Posts: 72
    Greetings all. How's this for coincidence? I just found out that my sister-in-law just bought a Wrangler SE. It's even blue, altough I think it's Patriot Blue, not Steel Blue. She lives in Denver, only about an hour from Colorado Springs.

    I guess great minds think alike!

    By the way, the new Jeep checklist can be found on Twylie's homepage. I don't have the link here, but I know it's in previous posts.

    Good luck.

  • nkelly1nkelly1 Posts: 105
    What I asked about was something that was "suppose to increase your power", not mileage. Thanks anyway, I'll keep nosing around.
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    how much more you want in your jeep? more power means less trans life, u joints and axle wear.
  • nkelly1nkelly1 Posts: 105
    Well we took it out in the woods, this time looking for a good place to hunt deer. A nice buck jumped right out in the road, about 100 feet, in front of us! We took a picture of it, but you know how those disposable cameras are. I got to get a CB radio, the logging company has the CB channel of their trucks posted (#39), makes it easier to keep track of them.

    Found a really nice mud puddle, about a foot and a half deep and 10 or 15 feet long, nice and slimy on the bottom. She just cruised right through it, when we got to the meadow it looked like it is a real mud hole during the winter…… this is going to be fun. Got pictures of that too.

    TsJay - We are developing the pictures, how many are you allowed to post?

    Spent the whole day "tear-assing" around the woods, I really do like this thing!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Well, my friends, tomorrow my baby girl goes back to the dealer to have her leak fixed. I am going to have to leave her overnight. :(

    I don't know if I can stand it! I have had to leave her in an airport parking lot for a couple days since I've had her, but, other than that, I haven't been away from her.

    I hope they take good care of her.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • nkelly1nkelly1 Posts: 105
    Sorry to hear that tsjay. I don't remember, what was the cause of the leak? I got the jeep pretty wet yesterday (under carriage), I didn't see any leaks, but I am going to check the carpets today. We had some pretty heavy rain a while ago, everything was bone dry.
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    the link to the Delivery Checklist:

    I take ZERO credit for this... Madman390 did the legwork and sent me the HTML file. I only host it, but will be glad to make any additions or changes that are needed as people actually use it.

    nkelly1 - I think you're referring to a throttle body spacer. I've heard that adding one can help combustion and give you a bit more power. I have not been able to find out if this works on all Jeeps. Someone on another board mentioned that DC used a slightly higher throttle body to achieve some of this effect on '00 and '01 model Jeeps, but I have not looked into this to see if it would help '01 Jeeps. A link on an outstanding Jeep site: scroll down and read what he writes on the Poweraid TBS.

    Great Jeep weekend here.


  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Three posts all day? That ain't good! Come on people, let's go!


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • steverstever Posts: 52,572
    lol, everyone is out crusing tsjay. You can't talk about them all the time, you gotta drive 'em now and then!

    Which begs the question, why are you and I here :-)?

    My new neighbor, who I haven't met, looks to be one of the several college kids who rent in my neighborhood for a sememster or year. His white Wrangler of unknown vintage was towed the other day, but was back home within a few hours. Curious to learn what sidelined him. I've seen him 3 times cruising in the neighborhood, plus his girlfriend (I assume) was driving it a while ago cutting through an alley and jumping the curb. The owner was riding shotgun with a big grin on his face.


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  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Drum us up some business!


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
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