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Ford Escape Mazda Tribute Maintenance and Repair



  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    I think there are three manufacturers who try to limit consumer access to tsb's in the US - Honda, BMW and ? (anyone remember who else?).

    The justification is usually that the tsb info is meant for mechanics and consumers will just come to the dealer demanding that work will be done, even though the tsb may not apply to their model or VIN, or their car may not be experiencing the problem addressed by the tsb.

    Sort of like reading a Merck manual and deciding you have some rare disease :-)

    Steve, Host
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,229
    Our Civic's CarFax report stated that Honda will not report recalls to them. Since recalls almost always address some sort of safety concern it does not seem right to hide them. TSB's I can understand, although not condone.

    On the other hand, CarFax could pull the recall info from the NHTSA. I don't know why they just don't.

    CarFax does not include TSB's with their reports no matter who the manufacturer is.

    I did a little reading on the CarFax site. It seems that you can get vehicle recall information from them, but only nine manufacturers will give you recall info on your specific VIN. Honda obviously is not one of them.

    It's not that big of a deal I guess.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    Good research. fwiw, we pull our tsb and recall info from NHTSA for our Maintenance Guide.

    Steve, Host
  • uga91uga91 Metro AtlantaPosts: 1,065
    I know these two vehicles are the same. They may even be made on the same assembly line. My question to you Escape and Tribute owners is: Why did you buy one over the other? Did it even occur to you that they were related when you made your purchase? I like the looks of the Tribute more, but I see many more Escapes on the road. Does it really matter which one you buy--just get the one with the best deal? Thanks.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,229
    My wife and I liked that the Escape has a slightly softer ride and seemed more trucklike. The Tribute was a little fancier, maybe a bit too fancy, on the inside to us. More carlike would probably be a better term.

    At the time (about 13 months ago), Escapes and Tributes were very hard to find on the dealer lots. But the Escapes came better equipped than the Tributes we were seeing on the lots (very few of each), and on the order sheets. With the Tribute it was pretty much all or nothing and the popular features were grouped with some not so popular features. There were many more flavors of the Escape to choose from because everything was pretty much a la carte. I don't know if this is a problem now though. Mazda tends to do things like that early in the model years.
  • bessbess Posts: 972
    I prefered the Ford dealership and service, and the Escape has a more rugged (truck like) look to it than the Tribute.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,124
    I chose the Escape because I felt the look was more fit for a guy than the Tribute. When choosing between the 2 its all based on your styling preference. Some say Mazda programs the transmission to shift faster and at different points than the Escape, giving it more of a zoom, zoom feeling.. You can't loose when making the choice between these two...
    I feel its very, very unfair when Honda/BMW and whomever hides TSB information from the public. It makes other Brands look more problematic or of less quality. Escpecially when other automakers are opening there skeletons in the closet information.. and others choose to hide it... I will post this around the net and see what others think....
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    my friend who owns the Trib ('02 LX-V6) actually bought it based on a test drive he did in the Escape! He was comparing Santa Fe, VUE, and Escape, and he came away liking the Escape best.

    But he did not like the cladding, and when I mentioned to him that the Trib was the same vehicle, only no cladding AND quicker steering, he was onto it like a shot. He loved all the chrome as soon as he laid eyes on it.

    His was built after July last year, has 13K now, and no problems, stalling or otherwise.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • uga91uga91 Metro AtlantaPosts: 1,065
  • Hi all,

    I just purchased my '03 escape last week. It has only 55 miles on it. Everytime I turn off the engine I hear some metal cranking noise form the engine. It last for a few minutes. I talked to the service dept. and they said the noise is caused by the cooling -off of the heat shield and it is very common (and perfectly normal) for a new car. Is this ture? Does anyone experience the same noise?

  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,229
    Sounds like their right. All vehicles make that noise as far as I can tell. The noise is a little louder in cooler weather for obvious reasons.

    Haven't you ever seen that Cadillac CTX commercial where they guy's driving down the highway and the car turns cherry red to simulate that it's going really really fast? When it stops, and thus begins to cool, Cadillac cleverly added in the heat shield clanking noise for effect. It's not uncommon at all to hear that sound.
  • bessbess Posts: 972
    All of my previous vehicles have done it. The Escape does it as does my SuperDuty.
  • bj02176bj02176 Posts: 115
    Not on a Liberty, Forester, 626, Camry,just on my 2001 Tribute. Glad it's gone, does anyone remember the gas fumes or has that been fixed.
  • bessbess Posts: 972
    Problem was addressed and fixed over a year ago with the 2001 Escapes. There was a TSB issued for this, although I never needed it for my Escape.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    He clearly stated that these noises were after he turns off the car. The creaks heard are from the exhaust system metal cooling down at different rates. It's a noise that any car will make under the right conditions. I know it's been a fun ride home when I pull in the driveway and shut down my Mazda6 only to hear the nearly overheated exhaust finally getting a rest.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,124
    gas fumes, steering wheels falling off, manifold issues were taken care of after the first 6months of production of the Escape. There are no recalls for the 02 and 03 Escapes/Tribs.
    My engine makes the same noise after you turn if off. Perfectly normal. My wifes Accord does the same thing too...
    Personally I like the cladding. I use my Escape to get to my favorite fishing spots, hiking spots and I believe it has helped with less rock chips. As an FYI to all those who have the cladding. Use a product called Black Chrome by Turtle wax and It will make it look like new every time!
  • rotarykidrotarykid Posts: 191
    the noise from the exhaust on the tribute is normal but seems to be louder than most of the mazdas. I could hear the noise while working on the enigne (running) while its warming up.
  • officerozofficeroz Posts: 25
    We bought ours based on price, as well as looks. To get the same equipment we have on our 03 Tribute, painted cladding and all, we would have had to spend 27K to get the same thing on an Escape Limited. Both of us prefereed the painted cladding since having the rough stuff on a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Leather, heated seats, and sunroof seemed pricier on the Escape. It's the wife's car, and it is less trucky, but she loves it....
  • rverderverde Posts: 3
    Trucky or not, Guys car vs. Girls etc.

    If you drive mountain roads or enjoy curvey highways, you will prefer the Tribute suspension and better low end pick-up
  • bessbess Posts: 972
    I don't think there were any engine changes between the Escape/Tribute. only suspension tuning and steering linkage.
  • zaimonzaimon Posts: 124
    The Tribute's AT is supposedly programmed with different shift points for livelier acceleration. Tests have only proven though that acceleration differences between the two are insignificant.
  • bessbess Posts: 972
    interesting, so i was wrong, and right. (wrong in there was a computer change, right in that it had no performance impact).
  • marys235marys235 Posts: 23
    FYI, I was getting a hissing, whistling noise when I let my foot off the brake pedal in my 2001 Ford Escape 4x4. I was told (after 2 trips to the dealership) there was a defective seal in the master cylinder which caused the noise, and the entire master cylinder will have to be replaced. It doesn't affect brake function, just causes that irritating noise. The service guy told me it is a common problem in Escapes, just thought I'd pass it along. He mentioned they had tried lubricating the seal on some cars, but the noise always comes back. Glad it's still under warranty.
  • lboadalboada Posts: 1
    I had an unfixable puncture on my right/rear. Because of the awd system, do I need to replace both tires on that axle or can I get away with putting another of the same type and size? It currently has General Grabber AW 225/70 - 15 on it now all around. They have about 25K on them now.

    Any help greatly appreciated.
  • I had a previous post describing my brake hissing noises on my 01 Tribute (when I released the brake pedal). Dealer had tried to tell me that this wasn't a problem, but the hissing was incredibly annoying. The car turned out to have a bad master cylinder, but that wasn't the problem. The dealer called the Mazda tech line, which had the dealership replace the brake booster rod. That solved the problem. It took a lot of arguing to get them to call, but it was well worth it.
  • odie6lodie6l Hershey, PaPosts: 1,172
    what's the mileage rated for the wear out on your tires. (ex. 30k, 35k, 40k, 50k, 90k mile tires)

    You say you have 25k on your tires... if they are due to wear out around say 30 or 35 k ... I would just replace all 4. But that's only my opinion.

  • utopiautopia Posts: 24
    Haven't been on msg. boards in a while. Just an update -- we have now owned our '02 Escape over a year. It's perfect - no problems, drives like a dream, gas mileage is approx. 22-24 mpg around town. We intended to buy the Tribute (after much comparing between Tribute/Escape/CR-V), but once we parked them side by side, decided we liked the sportier look of the Escape. Tribute's are nice too, just "dressier" looking. Anyway, bottom-line, we could not be happier with a vehicle!
  • reb22reb22 Posts: 1
    I purchased a 2003 Mazda Tribute and after 4 months, I noticed all of the metal parts under the dash and under the seat were rusting. I took the car to the dealer and they had to remove the seats, carpet and dash to remove the rust. When the car was built, they did not seal the windows correctly and water slowly leaked into the car. The service manager stated that the 2003 Tributes interior metal parts are not sealed like the previous models.

    Anyone else having similar problems.

    If you purchased a 2003 Tribute you may want to look under the dash and under the driver seat.
  • I have enjoyed driving my Escape over the last month or so, the only complain I have is the excessive wind noise, especially on the highway. I check all the doors, windows and sunroof to make sure they are closed. I do not know where the wind blows in. Does anyone experience the same ? How do you deal with it.

  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    Did you check the roof racks?

    rotarykid Jan 23, 2003 10:38pm

    Try a discussion search for "wind" for other posts about this issue.

    Steve, Host
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