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Actually, the side impact crash test does include ratings for the rear passengers as well. The MDX is untested as of yet, but because of the elevated seating position, it should also get at least 4 stars (more likely 5 stars) in the NHTSA's side impact crash test. Keep in mind though, that the NHTSA uses a 3500lbs car height ram. The results in a real world situation may be different if one is involved in a collision with another SUV/light truck or a minivan.
SUVs are not necessarily stronger. Thorax side impact airbags are far more important and only now are many manufacturers starting to offer them, let alone head curtain airbags. As of now, the only SUV on the market that has standard equipment side impact airbags for all outboard passengers front and rear is the MB M-class. For MY2002, it is extremely likely that the head protection curtains will be standard equipment as well (partly because there is not much else to add except foot airbags, which the '03 E-class/S-class will apparently get). BMW offers rear side impact airbags only as an option ($625, I think); they're not activated from the factory though. Acura may choose to offer head curtain or rear side impact airbags in future MDXs (along with a stability control system), but look for them to appear in their flagship 3.5RL sedan first before trickling down to other lower end Acura models.
I suspect your 6'1" friend probably sat in the right side 3rd row seat with the 2nd row pushed forward. A 5'9", I had trouble getting the 2nd row 40% section of the seat to move tilt back to its original position. Moving it all of the way back would have been impossible since I would have had insufficient legroom. For short trips (5-10 minutes), a shorter (flexible) adult should be able to tolerate it. I wouldn't recommend that a taller adult sit back there since his/her head would be close to the tailgate glass and that could be a safety issue in a rear end collision. The MDX's rear head restraints aren't exactly the best out there.
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Also one more thought: If you don't already have the Roundabout, some places will let you take it out in the parking lot to try the fit in your car before buying it. Babies-R-Us is like this (from what I have heard). Also I think most places are pretty liberal about returns for fit issues.
Drew, thanks for your feedback. I had been misinformed about the side crash data. Knowing that the MB will have both thorax and curtain bags makes the decision to get the MDX tougher. Especially since there is just such an aura of safety about Mercedeses generally, and the ML320 does have a stability control system too, doesn't it? But it seems to be taller and heavier than the MDX, which I would think would count against it, at least as far as chances of rolling are concerned, not that that is my most-feared type of crash.
I'm not sure what the seating configuration was like when our friend sat in the 3rd row, but I do think he was on the right, so you are probably correct. It was hard to get much of an appreciation of things because the MDX was literally crawling with lookers. One more question: does the proximity of the back glass make the third row a dangerous place to locate a child in a car seat? I wouldn't put one there routinely, but the whole point of getting a 7-seater is for flexibility, so might want to do it from time to time.
driving North/South and going through an intersection about 30 miles an hour. A Ford escort going East/West slid through her red light also going about 30 mph. She hit me so HARD!
I was sure my car was ruined and I pulled over
in a parking lot. Her car had a terribly smashed
left headlight, bumper dragging on the ground and
a very battered left fender. I walked around to
inspect my car and I couldn't find where she had
hit me. I thought I had lost my mind. Finally
I noticed the right front wheel which had obviously taken all the impact. Even so, all I
could see were scratches all over the wheel (no
real dents) and there was some of her car's paint
on the fender in front of the wheel ( also not
dented). No one could believe her car looked the
way it did and my car was so damage free. Let
me emphasize, she did hit me very hard. I will
be taking it this week for a damage estimate but
I think I was really lucky and the MDX is a
wonderful car.
Bottom line is take to the best body shop you can find and let your insurance company short change you. Good luck.
to the collision center which is owned by my
Acura dealer and it has a good reputation. First
I have to run it through one of those State Farm
drive-through claim centers where they will give
me an estimate and a check. The State Farm agent
assured me that if the body shop found anything
else that there would be no problem. You can bet
that I will tell them( Gunn Acura)to please find any hidden damage that the insurance company that
is paying doesn't want to find.
Couldn't edit the message in time. Anyway....
Insurance rates here in NY are definitely no picnic.
I don't follow minivan discussions, but I understand that the Odyssey within its third year of production still doesn't have stellar reliability. I am optimistically expecting that the MDX, marketed under the premium Acura label, will have additional quality controls beyond the Odyssey and its higher production numbers. Based on feedback I've seen here and in acuramdx.org, I am guessing the reliability of the major functions of the MDX has been very good, thus far.
In my point of view, my wife and I could have waited for a 2002 model. Much of our decision to buy now was because we wanted the cargo space now, rather than wait another year to replace our mid-sized sedan. It came in very handy on our recent trip to Texas. We could carry much more baggage (which seems to multiply now that we have started our own family!) than we previously could pack into our sedan. The MDX was the first SUV that we really liked. The ML320 was the only other strong candidate, but it seemed to be quite a bit slower and ride just a little bit harsher. (At the time, the RX300 was not discounted much at all. At today's discounted prices, we would definitely give it a 2nd look.) But now that we have the MDX, we really enjoy driving it. It's very responsive and rides very nicely for such a large vehicle. Yes, it has its "bugs" that we eventually need to have corrected, but we are both very happy to have purchased it when we did.
If you have a vehicle which still meets your requirements for the time being, then you might be wise to wait for the 2002 model. However, I personally doubt it will have curtain air bags. It seems that the Japanese brands lag behind the Germans (and even some American models) when it comes to airbag technology. However, I wouldn't be too surprised to see the 2002 MDX possibly have electronic stability control or HID headlights. (But I wouldn't count on either one for 2002 until you see that in print!)
Another consideration is that the base price of the MDX may increase for 2002. One theory I have is that the Base MDX will include additional features next year, such as a power passenger seat. Some people have stated that $2600 seems to be too big of a price jump for the Touring Package. It would not suprise me if Acura reduces that price differential -- by increasing the price on the Base model!
I suspect your salesman was saying 14-years and younger as a general guideline. In my opinion, he should have made that point more clear. I don't think there is any weight concern, and there is definitely NO age limit. However, there is only a small amount of legroom. I guess your salesman has a rule-of-thumb: most people over 14 years old would not fit very well in the 3rd row. On the other hand, Ann Job, auto critic for carpoint, said she fit back in the 3rd row seat just fine for a 30-minute drive across town. I don't remember, but I'm pretty sure she is shorter than 6 feet tall! ;-)
I'm not sure about Drew's comment regarding the rear headrests? He seems to say that an adult's head might hit the rear hatch glass?? I agree that the headrests for that row are not the best looking, nor are they very thickly padded, but they are adjustable. They can be adjusted up to stop an adult's head from snapping backward. With the headrests adjusted up, I see no reason why an adult's head would be in danger of hitting against the glass. But then again, I see no reason why any tall adult would be willing to sit back there for more than 5 minutes!
I've gone ahead and bought the Roundabout, though I'm still mulling over the installation. As you pointed out, Babies'R'Us is very good about return policies if you can't get it to fit. They told us that we could return the infant seat with original packaging if it didn't fit (they can help bring it out to the lot but they're often so busy with customers that they're only glad to have you try it on your own and return it if it doesn't fit!). Not to mention that we had one of their 20%-off-a-single-item coupons that expired this weekend; no one else seems to be able to get away with discounts on Britax.
My main concern has been rear-facing installation, as a number of folks have had problems with the Roundabout in that orientation. Seems like the seat needs the unique rear-tether for proper rear-facing installation. Unfortunately, most vehicles don't come with tether anchors for the front seats (logically enough, since one shouldn't put a childseat in the front, regardless of whether or not the airbag can be disabled).
I'll post my results when I try it; I just want to call Britax one more time about their new version of the Roundabout, the Advantage. Unfortunately it seems to be very slow to be getting through the retail channel so we'll probably stick with the Roundabout.
My other fear is whether or not our rather sizeable five-month old will outgrow the Britax before 12 months and the forward-facing point! And unfortunately the only car seats I know of that go past 30 pounds rear-facing are the Cosco ones which I'm somewhat leery of.
However, if you're someone who is very conscientious about safety and want every last measure possible, I would recommend you take a long, hard look at the 2002 MB ML320. I highly doubt if Acura will introduce either thoraxic rear seat side airbags or side curtains for 2002, though I could be wrong. Acura, and many other Japanese manufacturers, traditionally lag behind, as cotmc mentioned.
I agree with Drew that thoraxic side airbags (protecting the chest area) are more important in an SUV than side curtains because of the higher riding position of passengers. However, having side curtains are certainly a positive too.
When we made our purchase decision, with the timing based on our baby's arrival, the 2000 ML320 was notably deficient in some child safety areas -- the U.S. ones lacked child seat tether anchors (you could use parts of the seat frame or cargo hooks), and I think all of them lacked childproof door locks. However, U.S. law mandated the former into the 2001 model, and the latter is now available for installation by an MB dealer, at an extra cost ($100-$125?).
We also found the ML320's ride uncomfortable but that's a highly subjective item -- some folks find a vehicle very smooth, others find it jarring. I (personal opinion) also suspect that the ML320 is possibly less inherently stable than the MDX but with the use of stability control, it ultimately exceeds the MDX in some but not all conditions. This of course is highly debatable and the rougher ride can make it seem less stable than it actually is.
There's more room in the ML320's third row, especially if you slide the second row forward. There's slightly more room behind the MDX's third row, and also the second row (in terms of useable space). Please note that in either vehicle, placing children in the third row puts them closer to the rear impact zone and is not as safe as the second row. For folks who may be concerned about frequently putting children in the third row, a full-sized SUV may be in order.
If we had our baby this October instead of last September, our decision to buy an MDX over an ML320 might be different. I think I'd probably lean toward the ML320 _if_ the anticipated features come in and if the MDX did not show significant improvement. However, I have a feeling my wife would still prefer the MDX as she thinks its safety is fine, and she really disliked what she described as the swaying sensations she got in the ML320 (some folks exaggerate this to say the vehicle rocks all the time, but that's not the case; it's a truck and will have some different characteristics than a car-based SUV).
I just called Acura of Los Gatos (I've had a deposit there since Jan 5th) and asked them to cut a check for my deposit. Actually, the salesman there was very helpful, but he said he couldn't do anything for me. I told him that I wanted an MDX, as did my wife, but when we're talking $2k over MSRP for the MDX, vs $100 over invoice for a 2002 Explorer (totally optioned Eddie Bauer for $33k), I can't justify the $6.5k price difference. As previously mentioned in the discussions, the $2k premium is starting to make the M320 and option, the RX300 are discounted, and the Nissan Patherfinder (Nice, but small) is so cheap right now as well. I also informed he dealer about the lower cost, shorter time dealers out of the area, as well as some in the area (but if it's MSRP, the wait is longer).
I also pointed out that his dealership isn't doing themselves any favors by gouging the customers. If I had bought at MSRP + $2k, they NEVER would have seeen any money from me for parts or service. They only way they'd see me is for warrenty repairs! The salesman was sympethetic, but his hands are tied.
I hope that everyone tells the dealers that the premium prices are un-acceptible. I think that Los Gatos may be a little insulated to the compitition, cause where they are if someone wants somethign, they just pay watever it takes.
I must say that I'm rather dissapointed with the Acura dealers network (in general, but there are examples that are the exception to the rule). While I like the cars, I can't say that I like to corporate attitude toward happy customers. These premiums really start the relationship on a sour note.
I'm in the bay area in CA. Other than the dealer in Tuscon, does anyone know of other dealers that are more fair? I also have seen posts of people going toCanada to buy, and getting the exchange rate bonus as well. I haven't given up completely, but I'll be dammed if I'll pay over MSRP when the economy is slowing and there are discountes everywhere else.
Matt
Sorry I missed your question a while back about the Britax Roundabout. My now 2 ½ year old has been in the Britax since he outgrew the Century infant carrier we used – at about 5-6 months. The Roundabout in the rear facing position definitely needs the tether to become ‘immovable’. But, with the tether in our Odyssey and MDX, the seat simply cannot be beat IMO. We have a great local kid’s store that has periodic demonstrations of each of the seats. The Britax easily bested the others, but with the significant price penalty you alluded to. The Evenflo(sp??) Horizon was a distant second from the demonstrations I have seen, but at almost a third of the Roundabout price. Move the Roundabout, and the entire 80-100 pound display moves with it. Admittedly, I was a little ‘frugal’ and did not want the price penalty for 2 Roundabout’s and got the Horizon for the infrequent times he rides with me. A moment of weakness – should have gotten the second Roundabout, not that the Horizon is terrible, but . . .
To effectively use the rear-facing tether, you need to get a tether anchor – a 6” nylon strap with metal square ‘eyelets’ on each end – which Britax sells. Using this anchor, you loop the nylon strap around a support brace underneath the seat, both the Odyssey and MDX have a good tubular steel support bracket running the width of the seat. The tether clip attaches to the ‘eyelets’. Once tightened, the seat will not move if installed correctly. Also, the tether helps give a better than expected angled seat so that the youngster can fall asleep on the errands around town.
As for fit. Rear and front facing, the Roundabout fits the Odyssey and MDX very well with good seat angles for those on-the-road-naps while upright enough for good visibility. The adjustable seat backs are a definite help.
Finally, the growth curve really flattens out after month 8, so I would expect that you should be fine through month 12 with the Britax. If not, I guess we’ll be seeing you on a talk show with the 200 pound 2 year old ;-)
I agree that the MB M-class is rock solid if your biggest consideration is safety, but IMO, the MDX gives up very little to the MB in this area while gaining in almost every other category except off-road prowess.
Unless there is a gross oversight, and I don’t see one, the MDX will be unchanged for 2002 except for maybe IOSFIX/LATCH government mandates and additional colors. But, as has been stated, the price may go up, although the Odyssey did not even with the 6-9 month waits after year 1. IMO, the price will remain the same as competition heats up from the VW Colorado and Porsche Cayenne.
No, I don’t have any inside info – just more speculation. Although, the logic and prior Honda pattern are there.
Try Cerritos Acura in central Los Angeles - my sister got her Touring MDX there at MSRP and no unwanted options. They're a very high-volume dealership so they get as many MDXs or more than other dealers.
Yes, they always install mudguards & wheel locks, but she would have ordered those anyway. Deal was done via email and fax and she drove off in less than 90 minutes; extremely happy with whole experience.
I suggest that you only contact the Internet Sales Manager:
Mitch Franklin
Internet Sales Manager
562/355-0000
www.browningautogroup.com
Please mention that Jeff M. sent you 'cause I'm building some good will towards a Acura TL-S purchase later this year - and they're going over MSRP most places as well.
Good luck.
Anyway, I'd appreciate any and all opinions about buying now versus waiting, and any thoughts on Chicago Acura dealers. The Pauly folks are selling at MSRP, which seems fair given the demand.
Acura CS # 1.800.382.2238
The dealership should take a much bigger interest in resolving this in a matter of days as they are to blame also.
For all MDX owners out there - when you have a problem that is not being resolved to your satisfaction, speak up while remaining respectful and more times than not your situation will improve. And if it does not, that is Acura Customer Services job - keeping the customer base happy and working through these very issues.
DC
I was concerned about what extra equipment I'd need to install the Roundabout with. I think Britax must have gotten a lot of complaints because it seems they've wised up and now include the key components with the seat itself! E.g. besides the 5-foot long tether strap, it also includes that heavy nylon strap with the D-ring to attach it to (it loops into itself, around a support, and provides the ring to attach the tether hook to). I think it used to be sold separately.
Yes, you're right that my son will eventually taper off in his growth rate. Though the idea of him being a professional basketball or baseball player is a rather pleasant one (so long as he takes care of his parents ...).
FWIW, Britax claims to hold some of the U.S. patents on ISOFIX, but gave up their rights to them for "the greater good" of safety. I'm always a bit suspicious of manufacturers patting themselves on the back, but the quality of their seat seems to back up the self-promotion.
P.S. Britax is planning to release the "Super Elite" model this year. It will hold a child in a 5-point harness from 1 year to 8 years, or 20 to 80 pounds, without going to a conventional booster seat! Upside is that it'll fit the larger toddlers and let them stay in a harness for a longer period of time. Downside is that it'll probably be frightfully expensive, and some children may resist being in a 5-point harness for that long a time.
On Consumer Reports - I am a big fan, but the tesing was skewed. No tether was used although the tether was used on other seats if I remember correctly. In addition, no testing was done on side impacts where the Roundabout excels versus the competition. Straight ahead testing only. The orange seat belt 'locks' really prevent side to side motion, and no other seat I have researched has them. Also, the foam side padding for the head is a hard plastic in the other makes. IMO, the Roundabout with the tether would have outclassed the rest in the CR test, and they really need to test side impacts.
Right there with you on the increase in luggage with the first child! We were chagrined to find ourselves renting our first Smarte-Carte the last time we traveled by air.
Our car situation is, indeed, OK for the time being -- I drive a 1992 Nissan Stanza that never gives me a minute of trouble -- so we may wait for the '02 MDX. Will have to crunch some numbers and look hard at all the factors.
Thanks for the reassurance about the 3rd row. For a while there I worried that it wasn't going to be any more useful than the 3rd row in the wagons we first looked at (why do they even bother putting them in there?). I love how it folds so nice and flat into the floor; a big advantage over the Mercedes, although not as significant as the safety issues.
I am definitely going to have to think hard about whether we want the '02 ML320, considering the safety issues (including the considerations Dfc101a discussed) against my preference for the driving experience of the MDX. Kind of glad we have several weeks to really decide.
I, too, was weighing Horizon vs. Roundabout for car seats! I couldn't justify spending more for what seemed to me at the time to just be "the cool thing to have" in car seats, and opted for the Horizon. If buying again today, I would go for the Roundabout. The cost difference is inconsequential compared to the day-to-day hassle of getting the straps on the Horizon tight.
Msu #1825 -
Acura dealers got so excited about gouging folks on their MDX pricing that the TL-S is just too good to miss.
I spoke to four (4) dealers in So. CA and three of them told me it was MSRP Plus for the first shipment or two.
If your Houston dealer has 23 off the truck and sitting on their lot with only a few pre-sold, I wouldn't be surprised if you can do better. And, if they are still not sold down the line when the Acura floor financing runs out, they could well go under MSRP.
Even with the economy heading south, there's a lot of Californians (north & south) with too much money and not enough brains - and they gotta have the latest vehicle before their neighbors. Makes it hard for us intelligent, rational folks to get good deals!
Another option: They sell their demo models on a first-come basis after they've reached 2000 miles (at MSRP). The current demo is at 1500 (as of 3/4/01) so if you just go on a 500 mile demo ride it's yours...
Ive not heard anything bad about Pauly Acura but the folks at Acura in Libertyville were great to deal with. They are a medium size dealer and one of the owners is always there. I dealt with Glen Bockwinkle who is the owner in charge of sales. He was very upfront and didn't speak like the usual car dealers I've dealt with in the past.
They showed me where the factory ranked them #4 in the Nation for Customer Satisfaction in Service, which really won me over.
I considered the new Toyota Sequoia but the handling on the MDX was more sporty feeling.
Also, I noticed the acceleration in 5th gear is extremely weak. The cruise control often times can't even maintain speed going over an overpass without shifting down into 4th gear. Anyone have the same experience or should I get this checked out?
FWIW I get about 22-23+ on the highway @ 65/70 or so. Peeps on acuramdx.org report similar city/hwy mileage.
Now the interesting thing, I was at the dealer getting the seatbelt harness replaced for the recall - and they had an MDX with 18" wheels and Michelin 255/55R18 tires (like on the X5) - and I took it for a drive, and it seemed much peppier than mine - better acceleration and cornering... so much so that I'm adding them to mine. After driving this MDX, I wanted to make sure that it just wasn't mine that was a little less than perfect, so I test drove another with stock 17" Michelins and it felt exactly like mine.
I don't know how much the 18" vs. 17" diameter of the tires can effect the gearing -- but to me it felt much better -- the drive is a little less smooth - you can feel the road more with the 18's (which I like).
As for mileage - I'm averaging about 17mpg in Los Angeles surface/freeway driving.
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I came to a hard realization on the third row of seats in this or any other wagon where they face the back (which I think is all of them): they are useless. In my understanding, safety experts advise (and some states require) that children be in carseats or booster seats until they weigh 80 pounds, and no car seat is supposed to be used in a seat that faces the rear of the vehicle, but at least in the Volvo, the seats aren't supposed to be used by anyone over 88 pounds. So keep this in mind if you are counting on the 7-passenger capacity of a wagon! Sorry to be off topic here, but it is important to know.
To pass with authority, you either have to floor it (VTEC or whatever it is kicks in with a whoosh), or, better yet, drop your gear. I promise you if you drop the gear for passing, you'll feel enough power and then some ;-)
A lot of folks seem to be getting 15-16mpg in mostly city-oriented, non-highway driving. But folks who are doing a lot of highway cruising have been getting 21-23mpg. That actually isn't that bad given the general inaccuracy of applying EPA mileage (they don't say "your mileage may vary" for nothing).
Those with a heavy foot will do a lot worse, as posts here and on other systems have indicated.
Please also note that the trip computer can be off by a 0.5 mpg to 1.5 mpg, usually understating the mileage. Apparently this isn't unusual in many trip computers.
"I don't know how much the 18" vs. 17" diameter of the tires can effect the gearing -- but to me it felt much better -- the drive is a little less smooth - you can feel the road more with the 18's (which I like)."
This a classic "mod" to get better handling out of any vehicle. And it shouldn't affect the gearing as long as it's done properly. The proper way is to increase the rim diameter and then also decrease the tire sidewall height, what you end up with is an overall tire diameter that is exactly the same as your stock set up. Performance wise, what you end up with is less sidewall to "flex", which results in tighter handling and more road feel. And if you throw on quality wheel spacers, you can actually increase the tire tread width for greater grip.
Hope this helps,
TC
They do give you better handling though :-)
I've driven in NYC (cabbies from hell) and even downtown Boston traffic scares the heck out of me.
"getting cut off in Boston"
"off-roading through potholed streets"
"dodging pedestrians who ignore crosswalks and walk signals and cars that might hit them"? :-)
I wouldn't dare drive in NYC...cabbies are nuts there ;-)
Been lurking for awhile and came dangerously close to getting a Toyota Highlander, but ales, came to my senses and ordered a DE/Tour/NEVI DX. Normally, I don't advertise for dealers but I must tell you about Aura at Langhorne, PA.
First, I order a DE/Tour/NEVI in December 17th of 2000. Bill Edmonds quoted me MSRP no add ons, and Mid February for a date. Well, on Jan 24 he called letting me know that it had come in. Unfortunately, I had a family emergency and had to turn down the vehicle.
I called Bill back during on feb 16th and let him know that I was still interested and wanted to order another.
Well today it came in.......yes people...3 weeks from point of order, MSRP, no add ons.... I am going to pick it up today.
Give Bill a call, he does out of state sales...
215-943-7000. Tell him Brian Johnson sent you.
Brian
Need some owner input, after taking an all day drive, and aware of seat comfort. Seats on Volvo XC rated excellent.
It is not standard and it seems necessary for a short person.
For example, Consumer Reports says the Passat's seats are "very comfortable" but their review also stated that some of their testersfound "pressure points" in the back. Indeed, when we test drove one, my wife hated it after only 30 minutes.
While there have been some who have complained about seat comfort in the MDX, there have been many more who say it's very comfortable, including on several-hour trips.
As far as the Volvo XC goes, I find its ride to be way too firm, so a comfortable seat isn't going to help my comfort in it.
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