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Isuzu Trooper



  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    With the higher profile tires your milage will go up, but then it will be balanced out due to the extra weight/friction of the AT tires.

    AT will be louder than M&S tires.

    Handling with more sidewall will be reduced as well.

  • bawbcatbawbcat Posts: 118
    The factory in-dash 6-disk CD changer in my 98 Troop skips very easily, even from relatively small bumps on typical paved streets. Is this typical? If so, the person who decided to put that changer into a 4x4 was a moron. I haven't driven much on dirt yet, but I imagine that the changer would be pretty much unusable in that environment.
  • cwmosercwmoser Posts: 227
    What specs in a tire should one look for if one is more interested in on-road handling - not off-road?

    Does sidewall stiffness have a relationship to handling?
  • i'm looking to get a trailer hitch installed on my 2001 Trooper S. does anyone have any advice:

    1. what type of hitch to get?
    2. best deal? i've considered U-Haul and the dealership and wondering if anyone has experience with either/other, positive/negative?
    3. any other considerations i should be aware of?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I bought it and put it on in ~3/4 hr. Great hitch, I tow regularly and usually tow 5000+lbs with it. :)

    JC Whitney carries it and I think it's about $125 shipped.

  • Yeah, I think Hidden Hitch is the way to go. Hides completely behind the bumper, looks better than most OEMs. I seem to recall being confused by the directions as to whether I had to drill an additional hole, then figured out that it's not necessary. Just unbolt the rear tow hook and then use the existing holes. Went on easily. Got ours from Automotive Accessories Connection for $140 plus $30 for the wiring connector and $6 S/H. Part numbers for our 2002 LS are 87544 and 38817 respectively. They had it drop shipped directly from HH. Phone 888-425-2885 (I don't work there, just had the receipt right by the desk). Check JC Whitney, they may be cheaper.
  • cmunizcmuniz Posts: 604
    bawbcat - The early CD changer factory installed on Trooper have a tendency to skip. The newer ones are ok. The one in my 2000 Trooper S worked fine.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    My 2000 has skipped about 3 times in 46K miles of which I've done a ton of offroading which is usually when it skips.

  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    the main problem was jamming, but the unit was a little more skippy than it should have been. The new one is improved and does not skip much at all during use (all on-road, none off-road).
  • For the last two days during my morning commute (when it's cold but not freezing) I hear, on and off but mostly on, low frequency cricket-like, muted vibration sounds coming from somewhere under the hood. It happens on the highway, at speeds between 70 and 75 MPH and only when I press the gas pedal very lightly. Therefore, it is related to the engine operation and not some other loose body part flapping in the wind. If I accelerate or slow down the sounds are no longer there. Since that speed is my normal and preferred speed you can imagine how irritating and unnerving this can be considering I just turned my first 3000 miles on this new vehicle.

    While I was getting my first oil change yesterday at the Isuzu dealership, the service guy told me it could possibly be related to low-quality or low octane fuel and he called it "spark noise" I think :-) He suggested that I get some good brand gas during my next fill-up and see what happens.

    I've been getting my gas from Costco since it's cheap but don't all fuels come from the same pipe anyway? Could it be that I got a bad tank of gas or could it be something else? What do you all think?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Or it could be your AC Compressor pulley. I can't tell without hearing the noise myself. Do you notice it with the defrost on? off?

  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    It can't hurt. If it's not the gas, then you will still have the funny noise. If it is the gas, the noise will go away or become quieter.

    Gas comes from relatively few refineries, but each brand has its own additive package. This sometimes explains spark knock. Also, the gas at Costco could be stale if they don't have a very high turnover (doubtful though - Costco stations always seem to be pretty busy due to the low prices), or they might have somehow gotten a bad batch.
  • Just so potontial Isuzu buyers will know, my 1999 Trooper with 29,800 miles
    is using 1 quart per 1200 miles. Isuzu Owner Relations says this is normal

    Seems like adding 6 quarts of oil between recommended oil change intervals
    is a little excessive to me.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    But if you read ANY owners manual of most cars today they all say 1Q/1000miles = normal range.

  • I have a 99 Trooper with approx. 45K miles. Initially, the 6-disc changer gave me several problems (skipping, wouldn't accept discs, etc.). Eventually the dealer replaced it free of charge. The technician told me they'd had a lot of problems with the changers. My new changer has been virtually trouble-free.

  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    Ditto, my changer has been fine since it was replaced under warranty.
  • I don't understand what you mean by "Seems like adding 6 quarts of oil between recommended oil change intervals is a little excessive to me." Do you change your oil every 7500 miles? The only time I would consider doing this if I were driving 90% highway and using synthetic oil. Judging from the low mileage of your truck (30k in 4 years) you are waiting too long to change the oil. What is that, 4 oil changes in 4 years? Regardless, your consumption is considered normal if it's constant.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    To me, a consumption rate of 1 qt every 1000-2000 miles is too high. It doesn't matter if most manufacturers say a quart every 1000 miles is okay or normal or acceptable - to me, it's not. Still, I live with it on our 98 Trooper because I'm convinced it really is common on these engines and the engines seem to be durable anyway. Plus we love the vehicle and it, as well as the '96 Trooper it replaced, has been one of the most trouble-free vehicles we have owned. Before we bought the '98, I was well aware of the relatively high consumption reputation of the 3.2L and 3.5L Isuzu engines. We bought the vehicle anyway because to me, the consumption was not in itself a big issue.

    96_i30_5sp does make a good point. A 7500 mile change interval is fairly long and I agree it's advisable only if the vehicle is using a TRUE synthetic (Mobil 1, Amsoil, Redline; NOT Pennzoil, Castrol, etc.) and/or spending most of its time logging highway miles.
  • If you are stressed over the 1qt/1000mile oil consumption, swap to another Trooper, I think even among Troopers oil consumption at that high rate is rare. And change the oil very often like 3K miles using the best oil and filter.


    A thing to try: Valvoline MaxLife 5W30 oil. It has seal conditioners and other things intended to reduce or prevent oil consumption. Use it for two 3000 mile oil changes and let this discussion know the results. I don't work for Valvoline, but I have good results keeping my lifters quiet. I sure would like to know the results of this test and Maxlife is not expensive to try. (My 1995 SOHC Trooper does not consume significant oil, except when heavy towing, then not as bad as yours) Thank You.
  • My friend's Acura Trooper has, I think, I Valley hitch. I have the Hidden Hitch, which I'm happy with, except that it really is hidden. There are some accessories (bike racks, in particular) that will not clear the spare tire. The rack my friend uses on his Acura Trooper - which clears his spare by about an inch - will not fit on the Hidden Hitch without bashing the spare tire cover.

    You might want to consider other hitches if you are thinking about accessories.

    That being said, the Hidden Hitch installs easily, seems very well designed, and is pretty darn hidden.

    On an earlier question, mydaughter calls our Trooper "Truckasaurus." my wife calls it "the Trucklet," and my son and I call it "The Troop."
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    I like 'Truckasaurus' and 'The Troop' is solid too. But 'the Trucklet' has gotta go!
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    boxtrooper, good suggestions.

    I probably should consider using the Valvoline MaxLife. Unfortunately, I like the roughly $1/qt price of conventional SL oils better than the $2/qt for MaxLife. Plus I have about a 30-quart supply of conventional SL oil (mostly Citgo SuperGard and some Chevron Supreme). I've heard many good, and no bad, things about MaxLife though.

    But assuming the oil consumption is not in itself a problem and is not indicative of some other problem (this may be a BIG assumption), using $1/qt oil and adding 1-2 qts per change interval is a cheaper route than MaxLife with reduced or no consumption.

    I'm already changing every 3,000 miles and using Purolator PureOne filter (the oversized PL24458 instead of the PL14459).

    Can someone remind me whether an engine is likely to consume/burn/use more 5W30 than 10W30, and 10W30 more than 20W50, etc.?
  • You already have a great oil with the new Chevron Supreme SL, it's almost as good as full synthetics. I'm in South Tx and use Mobil1 10W30 with Purolator filters but I'm considering switching to Chevron SL.
  • Don't know if this has been discussed anywhere else but I thought I'd post it for us Trooper fans:

    The good:

    1. lowered MSRP prices for 2003 by more than $2000.

    2. increased roadside assistance to 7yr/75k (not a big deal to me).

    The bad:

    1. Prices were lowered by making some equipment optional. Most likely some parts were also cheapened/eliminated.

    2. Powertrain warranty is now only 7yr/75k.

  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    It sounds like that means Isuzu until 2010...then nothing.
  • I got my first oil change done on Thursday and just on a hunch I decided to check my oil level on Saturday.

    I noticed oil all over my new engine compartment, so I was really pissed off since I thought they spilled it while filling it up. Well, that was before I saw a gaping hole in a place where the oil cap should be... Then I noticed more oil all over my driveway and my garage floor. The word 'furious' would understate how I felt.

    They made me drive back to the dealership to get a new oil cap next day. I put my old sock in the hole to prevent oil from spilling all over the place again. They cleaned the engine and gave me the next oil change for free but I'm not sure I want it anymore.

    I will never feel uncomfortable to pop the hood and check everything right away at the dealership or even look over their shoulders while they're performing this highly complicated "service". Who can you trust?
  • mkayemkaye Posts: 184
    "Isuzu Ascender, introduced in October as Isuzu's new flagship"


    I STILL haven't seen the Ascender at any local dealerships. Not that I'm looking though.
  • I've seen a few rows of them in Atlanta during my recent visit to the dealer. I didn't see a single person on the showroom floor on Saturday, so it doesn't look like a blockbuster for Isuzu yet - too bad :-( Those things look like road trains 'cause they're so long (and the sunroof is tiny)! The Trooper LTD standing right next to it looked rather small in comparison. The Ascender had a few Isuzu "touches" but you could definitely tell that it was made 100% in the USA plus it said so on the sticker ;-)
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    order and AScenders til someone orders one. They are gonna focus on Axioms and Rodeos.

  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    Is there another dealer nearby that you can use? Or try a Jiffy Lube next least you can't be as upset if a jiffy lube screws it up. I think that sucks, however with the given state of Isuzu and dealerships, there is little or no re-course you have. Maybe call the service manager and complain? Even if Isuzu is a small part of the dealership, I am sure they want you to get your next car from might be able to play that up.
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