FYI, in the Central Atlantic Toyota region (PA, DE, MD, WV, VA) there will be a factory price increase on the Sequoia starting May 1, 2001. What this means is that any Sequoias that were on the dealership's lot around May 1 or before are not subject to the price increase...any delivered to the dealer around May 1 or after are subject to the price increase. The increase breaks down as follows... Sequoia 4x2 SR5 - Base invoice is $27,425 + $576 TDA...will be $27,692 + $582 TDA Sequoia 4x2 Limited - Base invoice is $34,670 + $728 TDA...will be $34,936 + $734 TDA Sequoia 4x4 SR5 - Base invoice is $30,566 + $642 TDA...will be $30,832 + $647 TDA Sequoia 4x4 Limited - Base invoice is $37,413 + $786 TDA...will be $37,677 + $791 TDA Freight will not be affected, nor will the price of factory options. I know the difference is not much but if you are close to making a purchase you might want to do it sooner than later. Hope this helps
How fast can I go in 4x4? I know I have to be under 62 mph to engage it but can I speed up after that? I saw limits on speed if I was in 2 or L but not in D in 4 high.
I believe that you can go 110 mph in 4WD. At that point the computer won't let you go any faster (another safety feature, probably related to 112 mph rated tires).
Seriously, except for actually shifting, there is no documented upper speed limit in 4WD.
ka5ljb, I also think VCS and rev. limiting is a product liability feature designed to prevent a Ford Explorer-like roll-over fiasco. Safety was probably just a fortunate (for us) byproduct.
Stability control systems were first introduced on cars, and years before they were available on SUVs. The first stability control equipped car was a Mercedes-Benz S-class flagship, and this was over 5 years ago. The first SUV to be equipped with stability control (as standard equipment) was the Mercedes-Benz ML320, back in 1998. As you can see, this was all way before the Explorer rollovers.
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I have noticed that when I first take my foot off of the brakes to back out of my garage in the morning there is often a "clunk" followed by a "twang" from the front end. Has anyone else heard/felt this? Is it normal?
I think our SEQ's were built by the same guy (robot?) on the same day!! Yes, I hear the same "clunk" when backing up, have the same ticking sound below 60 degrees, and just about every other anomoly that you mentioned except the flashing A/C light. I'm still waiting for that to occur.
I actually wasn't referring to the invention or first introduction of VCS -- I was commenting, more tongue in cheek, on the interesting correlation between the Explorer / Firestone situation and the sudden scramble on the part of several manufacturers to deploy VCS systems, which, according to the PR, are specifically designed to avoid such things.
But since you mentioned it, we all know that SUV Rollovers pre-date the Explorer case. Consumer Reports doomed the Suzuki Samurai in 1988 (and the Isuzu Trooper, Acura SLX, and Ford Bronco II in 1997) for nearly rolling over on their test course.
CU prodded the NHTSA to investigate SUV rollovers after the Samurai case, but in 1994 the NHTSA abandoned any effort to make a rollover standard, concluding that such a standard would require a redesign of nearly all SUVs, vans and pick-up trucks .. and .. the cost for this redesign would be too high.
So with ABS becoming standard, cheap embedded computers, electronic throttle control, and a few position sensors, VCS systems can now come to the rescue. For the price of a few additional lines of microcode, manufacturers can offer systems that prevent a fair number of the kind of rollovers that SUV's are prone to do.
Ahh techies... Sometimes ya gottta think like a marketeer, or worse, like a lawyer.
It's not parking brake because it wasn't on. I may have my wife back it out while I look under. If she runs me over please don't nominate me for a Darwin award.
BTW, my A/C problem was indeed a loose valve. The dealer was able to tighten it a 1/4 turn to snug it up. That and a recharge and it's fixed. Just in time for the temp to drop to 40deg again.
And on the ticking thing... If anyone from Toyota is reading this and they can't duplicate the problem, I will gladly trade you my truck for a new one. You can then experiment to your hearts content.
This was discussed earlier in this topic, and the result of the discussions were that this is a "normal" sound. I think cliffy explained it, but I am not certain. If I recall correctly, it is caused by a self check of the abs or vsc system, I can't remember which.
Cancelled my Seq order last night. Gas is $2 per gallon and climbing - doesn't make sense anymore. Anyone else nervous about future Seq sales, starting this weekend?
I'm looking for something else now, but at least 20mpg avg. Minivans or Rendevous, but it's got to have 4wd for the winter, seats for 7.
I feel any business should be based on trust and responsibility. I am sure you would of had a number of negative comments to post if the dealer you ordered your Sequoia from called you up and said they have cancelled your order because someone else wants to buy the vehicle you ordered for more money. I do not know what your agreement was with the dealer and I understand it isn't any of my business but if you told the dealer to order the Sequoia for you and you do not buy it when it gets there, that is not the right thing to do.
15000 miles/yr @ 15 miles/gallon = 1000 gallons 1000 gallons x $1.50= $1500 1000 gallons x $2.00= $2000 $500 divided by 12 months= $41.67
Please don't take this the wrong way but if $42 a month is going to keep you from owning a $40,000 vehicle, it is probably best you look for another vehicle.
My only word of advice is to tell you that the extended warranty price is negotiable. We didn't realize this because we have never bought an extended warranty in the past 25 years. However, after we turned down the warranty and continued with the paperwork, the manager offered it to us for only $575 (less than half at what the salesman started at). Since we plan on keeping this car a long time, we took it! 75K miles, 6 yrs, 0 deductible. I know Toyota has a wonderful reputation for quality, but things do go wrong in every vehicle, so we figure one covered repair will pay for itself. Good luck and enjoy your Sequoia.
You could have passed the test as my Toyota salesman. Passive/aggressive.
You're right, it's none of your business. Feel free to send me the $42 per month, and I'll reconsider buying that $36K Toyota Sequoia.
Better math is 15,000 miles at $2 and $3 per gallon, and multiply that out for 5 years to give you a range for the financial impact. Compare that to 20mpg and then you be the judge.
BTW, are you willing to play over/under on new Toyota sales/orders for the next month? Not current orders in the pipeline being delivered, but new customers and new orders. Maybe it's strong, maybe it cools off a bit, or maybe prices drop. Uh, oh, this sounds like the stock market again. Prices go down????? heavens.
who knows, if prices drop, maybe I'll reconsider taking one off the lot that's sitting there!! That will pay for the extra $42 per month.
On that integrity note, I also expect people to do what they say they are going to do. In Toyotas case they HAVE NOT DONE IT YET!!!
I am disappointed to have had such a major problem with Toyota quality with only 300 some miles on my SEQ, but I also realize nothing is perfect. I could somewhat deal with that. But I am THOROUGHLY unhappy with Toyotas service, customer relations & factory rep. I have never seen such poor customer relations!! At my job if anyone screws up, including the doctor (which happened today), I am kissing butt all over the place so that patient satisfaction stays high.
The Toyota corporation definitely has a high & mighty attitude of themselves, especially when you've paid cash for your 40K+ vehicle. In my case, they have my cash & my car. I hope that no one else has to go through the crap I have for the past 2 1/2 weeks.
Maybe one of you dealers here could let me know if there is any step up from customer relations?? Someone to talk to when customer relations doesn't do anything. I would appreciate suggestions. Thanks Deb
Check out Toyotawarranty.com. This site is operated by Toyota of Iowa City in Iowa. I bought my car in San Diego and got my warranty through Toyota of Iowa City I saved a lot $$$. Talk to Paul and good luck.
I am in the process of trying to identify a dealer to service my Sequoia--has anyone identified a dealer that are comfortable recommending. I live in Poway and work in La Jolla. Obviously my first choice from a location stand point would Poway Toyota, but Kearney Mesa, Escondido or Carlsbad could also work. If I had to go further to get great service I would seriously consider it. Any help would be appreciated!
You mean there are customers, sales people and service people out there that don't do what they say? ask debbie v, or better yet, how about making a phone call on her behalf and protect the Toyota brand from further damage. Interested in trying to make a difference?
Thanks for the info. Looking at the toyotawarranty.com web site, I didn't see the Sequoia on the list. I'll call them tomorrow to check. Is negotation necessary with them?
Please drop me email at the address in my profile, but where did you order from that you got it in 3 weeks? Also, what did you order? Thanks. I am sweating a road trip in 7 weeks and a forecasted delviery time of anywhere from 4-10 weeks.
I find it hard to believe that you ever placed an order. You have done nothing but criticise and make negative/derogatory comments on this forum. Now it's the price of gas. Sure.
By the way, you are complaining about Toyota reputation and quality and you drive a Dodge? Give me a break.
Also just wondering since you've never uttered a positive word about Toyota why did you supposedly place an order? Doesn't make sense to me. Why would you order something you have no trust/respect for?
I had some serious problems with both a Corvette and a Chevy Blazer (both pre-1990). Just keep trying and keep getting names of their bosses and go up the ladder. Persistence pays off. I ended up having a dialogue with the head of GM service for Canada and then finally I got some satisfaction. Keep trying and let us know how you make out!
I have noticed the 2 clicks that the ABS and VCS make shortly after I start driving which is what has been well described elsewhere in this forum, but I have also noticed a thunking sensation in the brake pedal when I am reversing down the driveway first thing in the am. Brakes seem to work fine and they do not make any other noise, and this is not happening at the same time as the clicking noise of the ABS. Doubt it is a problem but it is an observation.
My father owned a Toyota. My mother owns one now. I never have, but I'm not blind to quality, nor to my bank account or my expectations.
Looks like gas is a non-issue for you, 714cut. I can afford the extra gas costs, but I no longer think it's such a great value to drive a house on wheels - maybe I'll just give up some space, convenience, etc and save my money for other things, like my old age. Unless some Seq. t-bones me in the intersection, while they're sipping the double latte and chatting up the neighbors dog on the cell-phone!! BTW, I don't care what you drive, just drive it safe and responsibly, even if it's a Dodge.
It does boggle the mind that I ordered one of these things - boy I'm glad that's over with now. I feel better already.
I'll feel even better when the Dodge is gone too, and the Jeep after that!! I realize now how much I miss the smooth ride of a finely-engineered car.
Now I didn't say a bad word about Toyota, salespeople or service this time, did I?
Just thought I'd share my experience yesterday. I just hit 1200 miles on my Seq. and at the stop light I started hearing this clickety clackety noise coming from the radio. I turned it off but the sound stayed. You can imagine my fear.. had one of the dreaded tickers!! But then I pulled onto the highway, didn't see the big pothole (b/c I was listening to the sound)and hit it. The sound went away! I'm happy again. Not that I recommend this sort of extreme treatment, but it worked for me. I'm keeping my fingers crossed : )
Could you please post a picture of the pothole so I know what I'm looking for. How fast were you going when you hit it? Which wheels went in? I don't mean to sound sarcastic but it seems that you are closer to solving the problem than Toyota is.
Just out of curiosity, did you happen to notice the outside temperature when this happened?
At $2 per gallon, the Sequoia will cost roughly $2000 per year at 15 MPG and 15K miles per year. A minivan getting 20 MPG will run $1500 per year at the same price of gas and the same 15K miles per year. That is a difference of $500 per year or about $42 per month or $2500 over the next 5 years if the price of gas remains static for the next several years.
To some people, this is a big enough financial disincentive to own the Sequoia. For many people, $42 per month can be the difference between making a car payment or paying the rent. I certainly would not criticize a person who needs a V8, 8 passenger SUV on a tight budget for not being able to handle an additional $42 per month. I can also understand why a person in this situation would want to step down to a minivan because in addition to the fuel savings, they also will save a tremendous amount of money on the initial purchase.
It is pure economics. $42 per month can tip the scales enough for many people to get them out of this market.
If an additional $42 dollar per month would have any impact on your ability to meet your fixed monthly expenses, you should not be buying/leasing a $35K+ vehicle. Period.
I had just gotten on the highway so about 55-60mph, only the left front tire went in but I didn't see the size of although it was a definite KACHUNK! that made me think about getting my alignment checked. It was 64F outside when the noise started and when I hit the hole. Last night we dropped to the 40s and no noise, this morning was also in the 40s and still no noise.
I have had my silver seq Ltd for 1 week now - it is the most solid, quiet, secure feeling vehicle i have ever owned - no sqeaks, taps, ticks,clicks booms, etc.etc.etc. what is all the complaining about?
I had mine for 2 weeks before it ever made a funny noise. That doesn't mean that I don't still love it. I just merely wanted to point out that my short lived problem was resolved. I don't think that makes me picky. Besides this IS a forum for Seqs. the good, the bad and the ugly. I'm happy to hear that you have had no problems and hope it continues that way.
BTW: you should hear 2 clicks when you first get going since the computer is doing auto-checking
I believe that 15 miles per gallon is optimistic for this vehicle unless you are constantly doing highway driving. My trip computer readout tells me that I am getting 16.2 miles per gallon. However, real miles per gallon averaged out to 12.6 after 2,500 miles of mostly mixed driving. Not quite what people want to hear on this forum. But it is what it is. Don't rely on the trip computer as it is not at all accurate!
After 2300 miles, my computer reads 15.6mpg and actual is 14.01mpg. It has improved over that period from about 13.5 to 14.4 average on last fill up.
After seeing several posts, I think the computer is 1 to 2 mpg high. If we had 30 or so accurate comparisons of the trip computer to actual, we would have a pretty good idea of its accuracy and variation.
I had a dreaded ticking Sequoia LTD...it ticked from the moment we owned it...temps were below freezing until just last week! I took it to the dealer armed with all my data from this site and tundra solutions...they insulated the feul injectors with a foam tape and voila! the sound is gone...I lifted the hood of the Landcruiser while I was waiting for mine and I was amazed to see the isulation box that is around the feul injectors...probably deadening the dreaded tick! Anyway, my ex-continous ticking sound had nothing to do with outside temp...it was COLD!
The Sequoia was built with the options I wanted and was delivered in 3 weeks and 3 day from the date of ordering. I notice no ticking noise. However, there is definitely very boomy bass even when the bass is turned down - it sounds like a cheap radio and speakers. Oh, well.
There was a small defect too. The driver's side mirror was not fully adjustable. It will be replaced when a replacement part comes.
I noticed that when I backed out of a parking space, right after engaging the 4x4 mode, the vehicle was resisting going in reverse and turning. That resistance went away when I put the vehicle back in 2wd mode. Anyone has an explanation?
A technician at the dealer told me that the 4wd of the Sequoia is different than that of the LC, and that he doesn't recommend leaving it in permanent 4wd. I read the manual and there seems to be nothing said about not leaving it in 4wd mode permanently. In fact, the implication is that it is o.k. to do so. There are so many opinions out there but none that is direct and coming from an official Toyota engineer or the like.
I must say that I had the best experience buying a car this time around. I've bought 8 cars in the past 13 years from dealers and individuals and this was the best experience with a dealer. This is maybe because I am a member of Navy Federal Credit Union and the dealer is a part of a dealer referral network of NFCU. I wish that I had known about the referral network before and that all car buying experiences were this good for everyone.
The technician was wrong and the manuals (users and service) and Cliffy and everyone else are right. I've driven mine backward out of parking spaces, dead-end off-road trails, and a long driveway every day for the last several months, and I don't notice any difference between 4WD and 2WD (which I finally tried two weeks age when it finally warmed up).
My technician tried to tell me that the Sequoia (and LC) had a heat friction-activated limited-slip differential. I studied the differentials in the service manuals for quite awhile and could find no such thing.
Now it would be a real stretch, but I suppose if you included the spinning tires, ABS disk brakes, and TRACs ECU in the equation, you might to be able to ... Nah. He was just misinformed.
In your case, the shift to 4WD may not have been completed (it can take awhile) when you tried to back out and that may have had an effect. I also assume you were in high-range, not low (or worse, low/low, which would have causes the symptoms you described).
If 4WD continues to act funny, you may have a problem to consult the dealer about. In that case, be sure to consult a technician who is familiar with the service manual.
Interesting reading after being gone for 4 days (Toyota work/play trip to Palm Springs, a hot almost 100 degrees) and as to the 999, I am sorry but if I told you, I'd have to kill you, LOL... what movie is that a line from?
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17 days and 1700 miles later, I love my SEQ even more. My idiosyncrasy is that I REALLY DISLIKE the non-adjustable, skinny, and ugly arm rest (I have an SR5 with cloth seats). My 87 Toyota van LE has a much better arm rest.
I cannot believe that Toyota would use this cheap design on a relatively up scale vehicle like the SEQ. Of course I knew this before I bought the vehicle, but everything else was just too great to pass up.
Has anybody tried to change this arm rest for a better looking and adjustable one? I agree that this is trivial to most, but I just can't ignore it all the time.
About 2" wider and at a good 1" thick padding on top would be real nice. I bet the new leather wrap would cost a bit though.
I thought about this before and wondered why it was so skinny and I kinda eye-balled it that a fatter armrest was going to rub against console if you moved the seat way up. I wasn't interested enough to move the seat up and see if that was the case.
Now that winter is over, I have some thick socks that I may slip over the armrest -- 3 or 4 ought to do the trick. Trouble is I don't think I have any oak colored socks. Maybe I should have gotten a vehicle with a grey interior...
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Sequoia 4x2 SR5 - Base invoice is $27,425 + $576 TDA...will be $27,692 + $582 TDA
Sequoia 4x2 Limited - Base invoice is $34,670 + $728 TDA...will be $34,936 + $734 TDA
Sequoia 4x4 SR5 - Base invoice is $30,566 + $642 TDA...will be $30,832 + $647 TDA
Sequoia 4x4 Limited - Base invoice is $37,413 + $786 TDA...will be $37,677 + $791 TDA
Freight will not be affected, nor will the price of factory options. I know the difference is not much but if you are close to making a purchase you might want to do it sooner than later. Hope this helps
Seriously, except for actually shifting, there is no documented upper speed limit in 4WD.
ka5ljb, I also think VCS and rev. limiting is a product liability feature designed to prevent a Ford Explorer-like roll-over fiasco. Safety was probably just a fortunate (for us) byproduct.
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But since you mentioned it, we all know that SUV Rollovers pre-date the Explorer case. Consumer Reports doomed the Suzuki Samurai in 1988 (and the Isuzu Trooper, Acura SLX, and Ford Bronco II in 1997) for nearly rolling over on their test course.
CU prodded the NHTSA to investigate SUV rollovers after the Samurai case, but in 1994 the NHTSA abandoned any effort to make a rollover standard, concluding that such a standard would require a redesign of nearly all SUVs, vans and pick-up trucks .. and .. the cost for this redesign would be too high.
So with ABS becoming standard, cheap embedded computers, electronic throttle control, and a few position sensors, VCS systems can now come to the rescue. For the price of a few additional lines of microcode, manufacturers can offer systems that prevent a fair number of the kind of rollovers that SUV's are prone to do.
Ahh techies... Sometimes ya gottta think like a marketeer, or worse, like a lawyer.
BTW, my A/C problem was indeed a loose valve. The dealer was able to tighten it a 1/4 turn to snug it up. That and a recharge and it's fixed. Just in time for the temp to drop to 40deg again.
And on the ticking thing... If anyone from Toyota is reading this and they can't duplicate the problem, I will gladly trade you my truck for a new one. You can then experiment to your hearts content.
I'm looking for something else now, but at least 20mpg avg. Minivans or Rendevous, but it's got to have 4wd for the winter, seats for 7.
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15000 miles/yr @ 15 miles/gallon = 1000 gallons
1000 gallons x $1.50= $1500
1000 gallons x $2.00= $2000
$500 divided by 12 months= $41.67
Please don't take this the wrong way but if $42 a month is going to keep you from owning a $40,000 vehicle, it is probably best you look for another vehicle.
You're right, it's none of your business. Feel free to send me the $42 per month, and I'll reconsider buying that $36K Toyota Sequoia.
Better math is 15,000 miles at $2 and $3 per gallon, and multiply that out for 5 years to give you a range for the financial impact. Compare that to 20mpg and then you be the judge.
BTW, are you willing to play over/under on new Toyota sales/orders for the next month? Not current orders in the pipeline being delivered, but new customers and new orders. Maybe it's strong, maybe it cools off a bit, or maybe prices drop. Uh, oh, this sounds like the stock market again. Prices go down????? heavens.
who knows, if prices drop, maybe I'll reconsider taking one off the lot that's sitting there!! That will pay for the extra $42 per month.
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I am disappointed to have had such a major problem with Toyota quality with only 300 some miles on my SEQ, but I also realize nothing is perfect. I could somewhat deal with that.
But I am THOROUGHLY unhappy with Toyotas service, customer relations & factory rep. I have never seen such poor customer relations!! At my job if anyone screws up, including the doctor (which happened today), I am kissing butt all over the place so that patient satisfaction stays high.
The Toyota corporation definitely has a high & mighty attitude of themselves, especially when you've paid cash for your 40K+ vehicle. In my case, they have my cash & my car. I hope that no one else has to go through the crap I have for the past 2 1/2 weeks.
Maybe one of you dealers here could let me know if there is any step up from customer relations??
Someone to talk to when customer relations doesn't do anything. I would appreciate suggestions.
Thanks
Deb
Any help would be appreciated!
Now it's the price of gas. Sure.
By the way, you are complaining about Toyota reputation and quality and you drive a Dodge? Give me a break.
Also just wondering since you've never uttered a positive word about Toyota why did you supposedly place an order? Doesn't make sense to me. Why would you order something you have no trust/respect for?
Persistence pays off. I ended up having a dialogue with the head of GM service for Canada and then finally I got some satisfaction.
Keep trying and let us know how you make out!
Whats the 999 referring to?
Looks like gas is a non-issue for you, 714cut. I can afford the extra gas costs, but I no longer think it's such a great value to drive a house on wheels - maybe I'll just give up some space, convenience, etc and save my money for other things, like my old age. Unless some Seq. t-bones me in the intersection, while they're sipping the double latte and chatting up the neighbors dog on the cell-phone!! BTW, I don't care what you drive, just drive it safe and responsibly, even if it's a Dodge.
It does boggle the mind that I ordered one of these things - boy I'm glad that's over with now. I feel better already.
I'll feel even better when the Dodge is gone too, and the Jeep after that!! I realize now how much I miss the smooth ride of a finely-engineered car.
Now I didn't say a bad word about Toyota, salespeople or service this time, did I?
Just out of curiosity, did you happen to notice the outside temperature when this happened?
To some people, this is a big enough financial disincentive to own the Sequoia. For many people, $42 per month can be the difference between making a car payment or paying the rent. I certainly would not criticize a person who needs a V8, 8 passenger SUV on a tight budget for not being able to handle an additional $42 per month. I can also understand why a person in this situation would want to step down to a minivan because in addition to the fuel savings, they also will save a tremendous amount of money on the initial purchase.
It is pure economics. $42 per month can tip the scales enough for many people to get them out of this market.
BTW: you should hear 2 clicks when you first get going since the computer is doing auto-checking
After seeing several posts, I think the computer is 1 to 2 mpg high. If we had 30 or so accurate comparisons of the trip computer to actual, we would have a pretty good idea of its accuracy and variation.
Anyway, my ex-continous ticking sound had nothing to do with outside temp...it was COLD!
There was a small defect too. The driver's side mirror was not fully adjustable. It will be replaced when a replacement part comes.
I noticed that when I backed out of a parking space, right after engaging the 4x4 mode, the vehicle was resisting going in reverse and turning. That resistance went away when I put the vehicle back in 2wd mode. Anyone has an explanation?
A technician at the dealer told me that the 4wd of the Sequoia is different than that of the LC, and that he doesn't recommend leaving it in permanent 4wd. I read the manual and there seems to be nothing said about not leaving it in 4wd mode permanently. In fact, the implication is that it is o.k. to do so. There are so many opinions out there but none that is direct and coming from an official Toyota engineer or the like.
I must say that I had the best experience buying a car this time around. I've bought 8 cars in the past 13 years from dealers and individuals and this was the best experience with a dealer. This is maybe because I am a member of Navy Federal Credit Union and the dealer is a part of a dealer referral network of NFCU. I wish that I had known about the referral network before and that all car buying experiences were this good for everyone.
My technician tried to tell me that the Sequoia (and LC) had a heat friction-activated limited-slip differential. I studied the differentials in the service manuals for quite awhile and could find no such thing.
Now it would be a real stretch, but I suppose if you included the spinning tires, ABS disk brakes, and TRACs ECU in the equation, you might to be able to ... Nah. He was just misinformed.
In your case, the shift to 4WD may not have been completed (it can take awhile) when you tried to back out and that may have had an effect. I also assume you were in high-range, not low (or worse, low/low, which would have causes the symptoms you described).
If 4WD continues to act funny, you may have a problem to consult the dealer about. In that case, be sure to consult a technician who is familiar with the service manual.
If you use your noggin, you'll know how to find me to ask offscreen, all righty?
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I cannot believe that Toyota would use this cheap design on a relatively up scale vehicle like the SEQ. Of course I knew this before I bought the vehicle, but everything else was just too great to pass up.
Has anybody tried to change this arm rest for a better looking and adjustable one? I agree that this is trivial to most, but I just can't ignore it all the time.
Thanks.
top would be real nice. I bet the new leather wrap would cost a bit though.
I thought about this before and wondered why it was so skinny and I kinda eye-balled it that a fatter armrest was going to rub against console if you moved the seat way up.
I wasn't interested enough to move the seat up and see if that was the case.