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Our Sequoia has only been with us for about 2 weeks. I'll write up my thoughts on it after we've used it a while longer.
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Highly recommended. I might even buy the mat for just behind the 3rd row for when I have them in the car. It's that good.
I bought mine on Nov 4, 2000, and have been REALLY happy until this event. My experience with the brakes at 15k miles, was like others, resolved by adding a little fluid - pad life is about 40% now.
Any help on the noise would be greatly appreciated - although I may be leading the contingent with milage and age.
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We had to buy the paint ourselves from a local auto paint shop. My father-in-law paints cars for a hobby so I had a connection there.
baseballmom94:
The 2002 SR5's I see advertised here in NE Florida have the running boards as an option. They come with the alloy package or can be purchased separately. I'm in the Southeast region and from what I've seen on this board, this region differs from the others when it comes to options and dealer add ons. For instance, my SUV came with LoJack already installed....
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So the question now is this--I currently have a Toyota Service Survey for a previous service(not the 7.5K service)-how should I fill it out? Do I focus on the service they are asking about(which was fine) or do I use the survey to address the current issue--service advisor never getting back to me after he was to discuss the brake fluid charge with the service manager(three calls over a week)and the whole nickel and dime mentality associated with the $39 charge-as stated in my original post very different than my Lexus and Volvo dealer.
Opinions please--Cliffy I would be most interested in your thoughts. FYI my wife is in the market for a new car and we were seriously considering a 2002 Avalon or Camary--this situation (as petty as it may sound) pushed us to another Volvo--
By the way I really love the Sequoia but I wish I could take it to Nordstrom's to be serviced
Now, I'm not saying you didn't research this and I don't know how much choice you have in your area. There are those people who only shop for the lowest price and ignore the fact that some dealerships have better service after the sale. I'll give you a real world example from one of my customers. A guy bought a Sienna from me and 2 months later had a "problem" with his suspension. The lower shock mount broke and the van had to be towed in to us. It was pretty obvious that he had hit something but he said no. Rather than argue the point, my service department looked up his records and saw he purchased it from us and slid it through a warranty claim with no cost or questions to the customer. Even though he might have been able to save a few dollars by purchasing elsewhere, in the long run, he got the best deal.
Now, back to your question on how to handle the survey. If your advisor didn't treat you to your complete satisfaction, make it known. If things were out of his control and you think he made a good effort to help, mark the survey "completely satisfied" but continue your efforts to right the wrong. Those surveys directly and personally affect the writer and his pay check may be involved.
Also, wondering if anyone cares to share any monthly lease rates for a 2002 2WD SR5 Sequoia. Is it possible to find out about monthly lease payments BEFORE visiting the dealer? Any helpful websites?
As to the warranty, if the VIN has been entered into the TMS system by a dealership, you will have no warranty issues. If it hasn't, you'll have to find a shop that is willing and able to do it before making any warranty claim.
The other thing that has not been discussed is resale value. Put yourself in the position of a used car buyer three or four years from now. You have been looking at used Sequoias and have learned the differences in equipment and options. Suddenly, you come across one that seems to differ in equipment from the others you have seen. You learn that it is a gray market vehicle. Are you going to pay the same money for it? Neither will the guy you try to sell it to.
Does it work out similiar to the MDX?
Looking at base model with leather,sunroof 4 by 4,
wheels ect. Figure 38,000 purchase price.
Thanks
We also checked with the local Toyota dealer to price compare, and even they said that they were selling Seqouias from Canada at the time, so it's not just non-toyota lots that do it.
As far as affecting car re-sale, that's anyones guess. I think it would depend on desirably and availability of used Seqouias at the time, and who you are dealing with. There is a good chance that the price would probably have to be adjusted to compensate for lack of being able to disclose true vehicle mileage. But then, on the other hand, you got the vehicle for much less than the going U.S. rate so it may balance out.
If you are buying intending to keep it until it quits (like us), it may warrant consideration. If you think you are going to sell it in the next few years, you may want to pass because the Canada issue may come back to haunt you.
Good luck!
Thanks
I've had good luck with Blizzaks in the past on other vehicles. Recently have heard good things about Nokian winter tires. Anyone know anything about them, or if they are available in size for Sequoia?
From a towing perspective any of the GM f/s vehicles you listed and the Explorer XLT are clearly superior tow vehicles with higher payload, hp, torque, tow capacities and CGVWR than a Sequoia.
While the Acura MDX gives up 1700 lbs in tow rating to the Sequoia its somewhat surprising that it has a higher payload rating than the "heavier" duty Sequoia.
Tahoe 1750lbs - Pay 8200lbs - tow
Explorer XLT 1500lbs - Pay 7000lbs - tow
MDX 1367lbs - Pay 4500lbs - tow
Sequoia 1305lbs - Pay 6200lbs - tow
Otherwise the vehicle has been fantastic. It is the smoothest and quitest vehicle I have ever had. Drove a caddilac deville all the way to toronto and back (more than 1000 miles). This was brand new and there is no comparison with the toyota sequoia.
You are very good with statistics, but statistics don't always translate into the best tow vehicle. There are many factors besides payload ratings (which you seem to focus on) such as braking ability, ability to handle tongue weight, quality of ride while towing, ability to resist sway, where the torque curve falls in the RPM range and the list goes on.
Trailer boats magazine (a very unbiased and reputable boating magazine that features a towing vehicle every month) awarded the Sequoia "Tow Vehicle of the Year. It was a direct comparison with the larger engine Tahoe and the 5.4 Triton Ford Expedition.
The Sequoia won both the towing and non-towing sections of the comparison. And did so quite handily.
While all of these vehicles are fine vehicles and clearly all have their individual personalities (strengths) the Sequoia should be given full credit. It also shone in the toughest part of the test- mountain towing in which it attained better performance than the other two. Again, lower specs but better real world performance.
I have yet to see the Sequoia bettered in comparison tests by any major publication (although I don't claim to scout them all!).
Comparing it to an MDX for towing purposes is really not a direct comparison. Similar to if a Sequoia was compared to a 2500 Suburban.
Hope this helps those wondering about towing.
P.S. I tow a 5500 lb. boat. It is a wonderful towing vehicle. Did a 2500 km. trip this summer with it.
Anyone can repeat specs, but I am speaking from real world experience. What does payload have to do with towing, except to reduce the amount of towable weight. If you really want to look at useful specs lets look at three that folks who are serious about towing care about -- the distance from the rear axle to the hitch, the weight of the tow vehicle and the torque curve of the engine. The shorter the distance from the rear axle to the hitch, the less leverage the trailer has on the tow vehicle and the less likely the rig will "porpoise" a 2002 Suburban, for example, is 15" longer than a Sequoia. The heavier the tow vehicle the better -- so as not to get pushed around by the trailer. The Sequoia is the heaviest vehicle of the group (it weighs 150# more than the 2002 Suburban!) and, thats the actual weight of the vehicle, not the theoretical loaded maximum. It's engine torque that does the work and you want lots and low RPM. The Sequoia puts out 315 ft# @ just 3500 RPM, the GM 5.3L puts out 10 ft# more, 325 ft#, but at 4000 RPM. I have towed the same load many hundred of miles with all of the aforementioned vehicles and I can say that the Sequoia is the best tug. OK, I can't resist doing a 1 - 10 tow rating so here goes:
2002 Sequoia: -9- Easiest of all to tow with
1999 Sub 1500 4WD 5.7L V8: -8- Good tug, bad, bad brakes
1999 Sub 1500 4WD 5.7L V8: -8- see above (I know, I had two; it's a long story)
1993 Explorer 4WD v6: -6- Seemed ok at the time but in retrospect got pushed around quite a bit
1982 Bronco 4WD 5.0L V8: -3- No power, scary brakes, but was heavy and had a short axle to hitch distance so it didn't get pushed around.
The best tow vehicle? a 3/4 ton anything, but IMO overkill for anything under 5000#. Just for the record, my '99 Suburban's had a GCVW of 12,000 pounds, a tow rating of 6000#, and they had a 5.7L engine that put out 330 ft# at a really low 2800 RPM (they had plenty of power). I think GM is in a specmanship war with Ford and Dodge and is overstating their current tow and load ratings. Not to take anything away from the Suburban platform as a tow vehicle -- It does very well, but in 1500 (1/2 ton) trim, it is not superior to the Sequoia.
THD
Aside from the obvious intrumentation issues like Km/hr, Celcius, etc. One US dealer told me that tempered glass is not required in canada, etc. Is there a list of these differences floating around somewhere?
Most (not all) mileage issues can be addressed by looking carefully at driving habits. The other variable is fuel, because some parts of the country will be switching to oxygenated fuel next month to reduce ozone. This is a regional and seasonal thing and will reduce your fuel economy over the winter.
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Three businessmen were waiting to board a plane back to Chicago when the airport was closed. They had to get home. They walked out to Route 1 and found this dealership. They pooled their money and bought a Sequoia and drove off toward Chicago.
This dealership actually sold a few cars that day because there was a NADA conference just down the road. Several dealers were there and purchased cars at wholesale to drive home as well. The Chicago businessmen were the only retail deal though.
I know this is a meaningless story, but I thought some of you might like it.
It is very irritating having those stupid streaks behind the gas cap. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.
Toyota says they've never heard of it, and is waiting to see what the dealer finds. My wife is concerned that they won't find the problem, and if it is a weld, then it's a structural integrity problem (roll-over protection...).
This is getting ridiculous. We could have bought Brand G.M. and had this kind of problem, but really thought Toyota would deliver on quality....it's not happening
We've loved the truck up to this point, and had a 16 year old 4Runner before it.
Any thoughts or help would be hugely appreciated!
I'm sure the Sequoia is a fine tow vehicle. However, there is no comparison to a 1/2 ton Suburban let alone a 3/4 ton Sub. I've towed for 20 years with trailers from 4500 to 9000 lbs. There is no comparison between the light duty suspension in the Tundra-based Sequoia and the computer controlled suspension with self-leveling in the 1/2 ton Sub or the rear leaf spring set-up in the 3/4 ton.
I've owned the latest 1/2 ton Denali XL and 2 previous 3/4 tons. Payload matters substantially in towing. The proper weighting for a trailer places 10% of the trailer's weight on the tongue of the trailer. This is applied to the payload of the tow vehicle.
If your boat weighs 5000#s than the tongue weight should be around 500lbs. That 500lbs must be subtracted from the payload for safe towing. In the case of the Sequoia a 5000# boat leaves just 800#s of payload or maybe 4 average guys and no gear. By comparison that same 5000# boat leaves a Suburban with nearly 1500 lbs of payload or nearly twice that of a Sequoia. These are not marketing details but specs that really matter (or should) for anyone serious about their safety when towing.
After 20 years of towing, my view is that the Sequoia is poorly suspended for moderate to heavy towing within the manufacturer's specifications. It may ride nicely and excel in many areas that consumer's are looking for in an SUV. My view (and the data supports that view) is that moderate to heavy towing is not one of the categories a Sequoia excels at when compared to the f/s GM SUVs.
For the record:
1500 Suburban 1976#-payload 8700#-towload 5224#-curb weight 285hp 325ftlbs
Sequoia 1305#-payload 6200#-towload 5295#-curb weight 240hp 315ftlbs
You stated the following: "... My view (and the data supports that view) is that moderate to heavy towing is not one of the categories a Sequoia excels at when compared to the f/s GM SUVs...."
This stated "opinion" of yours was in response to a Seq owner who has experience in towing using the truck, and who provided a persoanl user experience using the Sequoia to tow, and comparing it to his personal experience towing with his 2 previous 1/2-ton 1500 Subs, Ford Explorer and Ford Bronco.
All of this user's claims you dismissed simply as, ehm, "flattering opinions".... !!
Well, how shall one describe yours then ? For one, you have no personal experience towing with the Sequoia. At least none that you have provided to us here. For another, you provide "opinion" that you deny others of.
So we have to weigh both sides and both force of arguments and figure out who to believe. Who then shall we believe ? The guy that owns and uses the Sequoia to tow, or a Denali XL owner who reads manufacturers and magazine brochures and makes conclusions of the Sequoia based on paper specs ?
Hummmmmm !!!
My wife and I (and now three boys - 5, 2 and newborn) picked up our Sequoia on Saturday. Got just about a fully loaded Silver SR5 (sticker = $42.3K) for $38.8M (before TTL) and they gave us $9K for our '95 Explorer (which we had a hard time selling on our own). Think we got a pretty good deal - could have beat them up more on the sticker but we were prepared to spend this much.
Love the ride, room and the comfort of this "SUV". We drove the Expedition, new Explorer, Mercury Mountaineer, Acura MDX, Lexus RX300, Toyota Highlander and GMC Envoy & Yukon before landing on the Sequoia. I've always driven Acuras, so we really wanted the MDX but didn't want to wait 4-5 months. And we really love the extra room, comfort and quality/security of the Sequoia. The US vehicles couldn't compete on build quality, ride or car-like smoothness.
You'll pay a little more but I think its worth it. Simply put, we'd recommend it to anyone with a growing family. Let you know what the next few months bring.
Joe V.
(Newtown, CT)
P.S. Also used peoplefirst.com for the loan. Great business plan...approved us in 15 minutes and we had a blank check (good for 45 days) at our door the following day (6.75%). Very easy.