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  • I haven't experienced it myself but I have seen it mentioned before. I remember that it was somewhere on so if you do a search there you should be able to get an answer to your query. I never noticed if mine went off right at the turn off or if it dimmed after time. I will look next time I think of it. In the meantime, check out

    Good luck!
  • sell2sell2 Posts: 1
    Planning to buy a 3.0 X5 soon, but trying to decide on options. I've heard the leatherette is virtually the same, but maybe more durable. Less susceptable to cracks/scratches? Is leatherette colored on top surface or throughout the fabric? Leatherette may better handle the rapid temp changes over the years of heated seats? We have a leatherette couch in our basement that is basically kid-proof. Bottom line... I'm willing to pay for what's best.
  • I liked the leather, too. I didn't see that it was worth $1450.00 PLUS all the care it required. I have other people take care of stuff like that as I simply do not have the time...but why have extra if you don't have to?

    As for the color being through and through, sorry, I'm not willing to cut into mine to determine that. Honestly, I don't know...and don't know where you could get that answer. Try asking a BMW sales person. They will be able to find out if nothing else.

    Good luck!

  • Anyone done Eurodelivery? I'm planning to get the M3 (on order). It is planned that they are going to start to have Eurodelivery starting for MY2002.

    Do I have to tell my dealer now?
    Is this a quicker method?
    How do they handle trade ins? How should I expect to handle it or ask them to handle it?

  • My trans light stays on all the time.
    Did anyone notice the small red lights in the overhead console? They go on with the exterior lights and throw a little light on the center console. Did I miss this in the manual? I'm still reading>
    Saw another X5 at a stoplight. We both agreed this is a great SAV.
    I notice that Jeep drivers and others are doing alot of staring at the X5!
  • #108 seems like you got a great deal for $612/month. Did you put any money down? where is your dealer?
  • there is really no big deal about deposits on vehicles. It is really a very old concept. It is done partly to filter out those that are not particularly serious about the vehicle and also to prevent you a prospective buyer from going all over the place to put their name on a list. This is especially true on much sought after autos. If you are against it then go elsewhere. Good dealers will accept that point of view.
  • BMW has an independent temperature control rolling knob in the middle of the dash. If you roll the knob up, it increases the temperature and if you roll the knob down it decreases the temperature. It is therefore possible to get cold air from the vents in the middle of the dash while you are getting warm air elsewhere. Yor climate control must be on though. The dealer should know this though... This should be on X5.
  • I gladly put down my $500 deposit. Only have to wait 6 weeks for an X5 to be built to order. It's worth it not to worry that you'll get it, as it is a hot seller! As mentioned by others, it is completely refundable, and you have the protection of the credit card, just in case. It will be like "found money" on delivery day!
  • I test drove 3.0 and 4.4 extensively. With and without sport pkg. on each. Pricing and better fuel economy on the 3.0 makes it very tempting, and you don't even have to pay extra for the standard shadow line trim. However, Since I'm coming off a 2 year lease on my 540I I/sport pkg. Driving the 4.4 I/sport was the hands down winner. Clearly worth the extra $ for the smooth power and acceleration. The 19" rims and sport tires are nice, but have lousy winter traction, so I bought a set of 3.0 18" rims to mount some Blizzaks to for winter seasons to come. Can't wait for delivery in March!
  • ctk1ctk1 Posts: 79
    To X5loux5,

    I have a similar Trans light on all the time.
    I check with other from the the, the recommendation is having the dealer replace the "Directional Indicator".
    I contact the services tech from my dealer,about this problem. He then contact BMW North America, the answer is the latest build X5 , light always on and it is normal.
    My is build in Jan 2001. X5/3.0i
  • danm8danm8 Posts: 5
    Had my X5, 4.4 spt since August. Love it except for the lousy performance of wipers. Drove through a blizzard last Sunday and the wipers were terrible. Squeek like hell and don't clean the windshield very well. Mentioned during last service visit and they supposedly corrected them, but worse than ever. I've had some really cheap crappy cars over the years but I think these wipers are the worst. A shame.
  • Looking for any feedback from owners of the 4.4 X5 who have the 19" wheels. How is it in the snow and ice? Has anyone changed to the 18" wheels and put snow tires on or all season radials? I'm picking mine up on 2/10/01
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    BMW states that the performance tires/19" wheel combination included with the Sport package is "not intended for winter/snow usage". I myself have test driven the Sport Package equipped V8 X5 in 2-3 of inches of snow in an empty parking lot and there was plenty of sliding (understeer and oversteer). Oversteer - fish tailing - is exacerbated because of the X5's uneven permanent AWD torque split (32% front/68% rear). DSC constantly and significantly reduced the X5's forward momentum due to the lack of traction.

    Most X5 owners with this combination (V8 Sport Pkg) have also found driving very tricky due to the lack of traction from the Sport package dry/wet weather performance tires on even a little bit of snow. I even recall someone recently spinning 180 degrees. That scared him enough and he ordered the winter tire package. So do yourself a favour and do the same. You don't want to have to learn the hard way just to save some money (albeit not a small amount).

    Good luck!

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  • I am looking for an X5 3.0 in NY area, and I was wondering what the best deals off MSRP that people are getting.
  • to ctk1: My X5 3.0 is also a Jan 2001 build date, so I guess the trans light is supposed to stay on, but I can't imagine why.
    to danm8: My wipers do a great job of clearing the windshield. However they are noisy, it sounds like when you scrape ice off of the windshield with a scraper! But they seem to be getting more quiet now.I would insist to BMW that they replace the entire arm if necessary. Maybe the arm pressure is not strong enough to press the blade against the windshield.
    Two weeks and 1000 miles and I'm loving every mile.
    Paid MSRP at Rallye Motors , Roslyn, Long Island.Ordered in Dec 2000, so they were not discounting. But they threw in a full set of rubber mats, and gave me a model of the X5, small compensation for paying MSRP on an expensive SAV. My sales rep.,Nick Soldo, said they might start discounting if you are willing to wait. Good luck.
  • egrandegrand Posts: 14
    Anyone know about a 2002 BMW "XL" extended wheel base with larger interior? Will there be a third seat? Thanks if any info known. Rumors OK too. Elliot
  • tclubtclub Posts: 22
    I've now seen a few X5 on dealership lots, does anyone know who in the No. VA area may make deal on these or is MSRP the best I can hope for?
  • Contact Fred Meloan at BMW of Arlington (which used to be Heishmann BMW). I don't have his number at my figertips but you can find it locally, I am sure. Fred is the internet manager and a SUPER guy!

    Tell him Joanne sent you!

    Good luck!!
  • The largest true "winter" tires I have found are 17" Michelin Pilot Alpin and 17" Dunlop Winter Sport M2.
    I have noticed some posts about 18" snow tires, what kinds of tires are being used?

    I've seen posts about Pirelli Scorpion tires. I believe that these are classified as all season tires. How have these performed? Which type of Scorpion was used Zero or S/T?

    Thanks for any and all input.
  • vasylvasyl Posts: 9
    We picked up our '93 325is in Munich. The procedure is essentially handled by the dealer. For the German made cars they gave you a 10% break on the price (usually close to what you could negotiate here) and provide you with insurance while in Europe (EU countries only). You don't really save any money other than it's really great to drive around in your own car. The down side is that you ave to put on a few thousand kilometers for break-in before you can go over say 70mph, which puts you in the "slow" lane.

    America is the best country on earth but we have the suckiest drivers. Imagine cruising comfortably at 100-110 MPH (safely) and not encountering the left lane asswhipes going 55 with no intention to move over! And when the light turns green people actually take off. Here in the South Texas area everything is mostly flat and straight (it's hard to shake an F-150 or Suburban) so being in the mountains of Switzerland or country roads in France puts a lot more emphasis on handling and braking and sometimes your nerves (try the rotary around the Arc de Triomphe!) In other words it's an absolute blast to drive.

    Anyway sorry to stray form the subject. This is the X5 board after all,which by the way leads me to say that I heard you can arrange for European delivery of your X5!! But no break price wise. So just skip on down to your prefered BMW dealer who will do all the preparations, finance etc and simply specify when you will arrive in Munich and where and when you will leave your car upon returning to the states ( they give you several locations to pick from). When you arrive your car will have the European radio as well as the mandatory first aid kit and roadside reflector - the later 2 you must take before dropping the car off.

    BMW has an information package detailing all the above. And oops almost forgot that pesky import duty (a few hundred bucks if I remember correctly). Your car winds up back at the dealer (with the US radio) in about a month.

    Well this was the deal in '93, so please check the details directly- suppose you can find it online. Hope this helps.

    With "Der Schlickmeister" Out and GW In, we may even have a chance to afford our X5 and pick it up in Europe later this year.
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Errr...FYI, the BMW X5 is made in Spartenburg, SC. You won't have to go all of the way to Germany to pick up the vehicle :-) Unfortunately, I don't think factory delivery is available as of yet.

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  • tclubtclub Posts: 22
    Seems like alot of X5 problems that the dealers take forever to fix or can't fix! Is this still happening. Things like wind noise, electrical, cutting off, & poor fit? Ms_Joanne have you had these on your X5? I do plan to contact Fred Meloan.
  • So far I have been very lucky. I have not had a single problem with my X. Not all X5's have problems, to be honest, I think it is the minority of them that do, but with that said, if I coughed up a ton of cash (which I did) for this car and had lots of niggling problems (which is what seems to be the most prevalent) I would have a friggin' cow and I would be unbelievably vocal. I don't dismiss a word that anyone says because I can only imagine how I would feel, as stated.

    I had my car serviced yesterday for a recall (no problems, thankfully) and the guy told me that my car was the best X5 he had ever driven (they have a service where they come get my car, leave me one, bring mine in for service, and then return mine and get theirs...AWESOME SERVICE!! That alone made the purchase worthwhile!!) So again, I consider myself very lucky that my X is, thus far, pretty darned perfect. It was a good day in Spartansburg the day my baby was built...cause that car rocks more than any I have ever owned. WHEW! I swear I get high driving it!

    Joanne (who is totally smitten with her car )
  • tclubtclub Posts: 22
    What Dealerships in the No. VA area do folks recommend for the BEST service? Ms_Joanne - do you get yours serviced at Patrick in Chicago?
  • vasylvasyl Posts: 9
    According to my very knowledgeable source at BMW of Houston North, X5's are available for delivery in Europe. Spartenburg produces X5s not only for the domestic market but also for all of BMW's worldwide locations. At the factory you can see right hand drive X5's for say Australia/UK and colors / options not available here. Essentially the transport vessels have a lot of room heading east so no problem to get your X5 a ride. Lead time however is I believe about 6 weeks to make the arrangements, so it's something you cannot do on the spur of the moment.

    Naturally it's easier to buy the car here. But if you can spend a few weeks in Europe -it's more fun than you can imagine. Renting this type of vehicle would be almost impossible and very expensive for something similar. Even a couple of weeks would set you back about a grand. If you ever wanted to tour Germany, Austria, Switzerland or France your just a days ride out of Munich. Go in September/October when rates are lower - Remember Octoberfest is at the end of Sept -not Oct!
  • And I use Knauz for a backup as they are closer to me. I will probably have them detail the vehicle once the winter is over so I can get all the salt residue out of the carpets and such. Mechanical stuff I will have Patrick do, though, because the Red Star service is available for as long as I own the vehicle.

    As for picking up an X5 in Germany I don't see the sense in that as they would have to pay for shipping it over there and then pay for it to be shipped back here again...not to mention salt air that would be on it twice. I don't think it would be worth it. Save the extra grand it would cost and go visit BMW over there and drive one of their vehicles on the Autobahn. That just doesn't seem logical to me. :)
  • vasylvasyl Posts: 9
    The "grand" I refered to was about how much you'd pay for a rental car in Europe for 2 weeks - there much more expensive than here. There are no shipping costs added. Wouldn't worry about sea salt - you'd have more exposure from some McDonald fries in the back seat than you would experience on a modern ocean transporter.

    Obviously not for everyone , but if you ever wanted to vacation in Europe it's not as crazy as you might think.
  • OK, I'm ready. Help me make the best decision. I'd love an X5. 4.4
    Are "they" dealing at all? I'm fine with the Fairfax dealer, any other suggestions?
    This 19" wheel business has me nervious, whats the best option?
  • Wide World of Cars in Spring Valley, NY just sold me a 4.4 with the options I wanted for $1,500 below MSRP for delivery in 4-6 weeks. No hassle. Just go to and ask for Michael Speranza. Tell him William sent you. If you have a frequent flyer account at US Airways you can also get 15,000 bonus miles if you buy through this dealership. Go to before you buy.
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