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..Mike
Deb (Dhelynn@Aol.com)
She has been told all area dealers are surcharged $500 from "the local distributor". Has anyone heard of this before? She is ready to purchase NOW so any help would be gratefully appreciated!
The wagon she wants is with automatic, upgraded speakers, auto dimming mirror, winter package and a chrome tailgate bar. A dealer has quoted $23611 before title and tax.
Thanks,
Don
if your daughter doesn't mind a little ride, you might send her West on the Pike about 20 miles or so. I just closed on a Forester and got a very aggressive deal (w/o any aggravation) at Tri-State Subaru in Webster (Pike to I-395S). Patrick (Worcester) is supposed to be aggressive on price and were eager to deal but seemed to want to grind, & I wasn't interested in that unless I had to. Natick Subaru (Rte 9) has a good reputation, but I couldn't get anyone to pay attention to me. All three had lots of OBs sitting on their lot, and the end of the month is coming, sooo....
Good luck. Hope my experience is of some help.
Take care.
Joe W>
Thanks so much for your comments. I'll pass them along in the morning!
Don
Good luck with your purchase and keep us posted.
-Frank P.
-juice
As a follow-up, my daughter purchased her Outback from Natick Subaru this afternoon. After comparing prices at three dealers (thanks to you) Natick was best and she and her husband thought the salesperson was very good! Her blue Outback is due to arrive this week.
I really appreciate your helping a father "look good" to his daughter!
Don
Don: so how many Soobs is that in the family now?
-juice
I'll keep trying!
Don
The Bimmer owner will have to wait until the GT gets a more powerful engine. 2002?
-juice
Does Subaru ever have a sale, offer rebates or low interest financing? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I haven't bought a car in about ten years.
My daughter paid $550 for delivery. She purchased from Natick Subaru. Their charge was the same as one quoted from Subaru of New England (Arlington).
Don
Stephen
This information was in an ad today in the Chicago Tribune.
Don
The $550 figure is consistent.
If you'd like more info, and another web site, try www.sne1.com They have a neat vehicle finder that you can use to locate the color and features you're looking for by model. Kind of fun.
Don, glad your daughter had things work out well! It's odd. So many people claim to have a good experience at Natick -- in my case the salesman told me he "didin't have anything in that would be what I wanted." I was asking about Foresters. So of course I went elsewhere. Weird.
TAke care.
Joe W>
And yes, they list a 4.9-6.9% financing, but that's in lieu of the rebates. They also say it expires 10/31.
If you really get the runaround, consider taking a train down the the DC area and then driving back. This dealer has no-haggle on-line prices:
http://www.fitzgeraldautomall.com/
And the 2001s are offered for $100 under invoice. No 2000s left, it appears.
-juice
I asked and they don't like to haggle. When I was talking to the salesperson, I mentioned that I'd like to pay 1-2% over invoice and she said that would be OK.
I also took heart in the fact that when I was there last time (and they gave me the keys to a sweet S Premium and said "Have fun, see ya in a couple of hours"), there was a guy from Vermont there buying an Outback. He came down to Somerset (way down between Providence, RI and Fall River) to get it because of the price and comfort with the dealer.
-juice
-mike
Still, it's smart to mention, but no dealer is going to give away much of that - it's their only profit at invoice pricing.
Let us know what region you're in and folks here can provide references, if you'd like.
-juice
For a number of reasons, I'd prefer the port installed hitch to an aftermarket hitch, so I'm a bit frustrated about this news.
Have any of you experienced this sort of shortage or do you have any idea about how long it's likely to last? ...or perhaps you have a hint about someone to talk to to get the "real story" (SOA had gone home today (Friday) by the time I got the word.) I'm inclined to think the dealer gave me accurate information, though they may not have pressed their sources too hard for additional information (i.e. "the last time you ran out, how long did it take to get 'em back in stock?")
Thanks to all of you for all the information you provide. My wife and I are looking forward to joining the ranks of the Subaru Owner.
Installation on the Outback is actually easier than on my Forester, since you don't have to drop the exhaust. A good torque wrench, some leverage, and you can do this job yourself.
They're huge and heavy, so I can see how they'd take a while to ship them.
As for timing, if it's in stock the parts I order from QSubaru arrive 2-3 days later. Out of stock usually takes 2-3 weeks, rarely more, but that's Subaru in Japan's hold up, not hers.
If the dealer is giving you the runaround, just order from Darlene. Even if she takes longer, she will keep you informed. Make sure you get reimbursed for it, though.
Finally, I've found that almost every bolt comes over-torqued, so I feel better when I do things myself.
-juice
I believe that some others here have also experienced out of stock conditions for port-installed items. I personally think that this is a consequence of the wildly popular "just-in-time" inventory management philosophy, which works fine until someone makes a wrong estimate about the demand for a given item.
In any case, if you take delivery without the item, make sure the dealer agrees in writing to install at a latter date and to eat the installation charges.
-Frank P.
Juice: Thanks for the info re the trailer hitch in "modifications".
I've actually experience badly over-torqued bolts, so don't assume you wouldn't do a job just as good or better.
-juice
I'm fairly convinced that if I go the aftermarket route, I can install the hitch without difficulty, and not having a turbocharged air wrench will only be a plus. The instructions at (for instance) www.hiddenhitch.com appear to be comprehensive. No hitches listed for 2001's yet though.
--Jay
-mike
paisan: I imagine with the Trooper the frame is easier to access. Heck, you probably didn't need ramps!
-juice
-mike
I have regular ramps, which are handy. They work for both our vehicles.
Heck, you can probably change your oil by just leaning over a tad!
-juice
I have a '93 Legacy L wagon, which unfortunately, is among the cars for which Edmunds lists "insufficient data" in terms of used car pricing. I am considering selling my car to a family member and am trying to find a fair price. In checking the Kelly Blue Book site, there is a range from around $2200 trade-in to $4600 retail.
The car has 126k miles, 5 spd., FWD, interior in excellent condition, exterior in good condition, mechanically sound, etc.
If any of you have experience in this area or an estimate on a fair price, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Bill
Since it's a family member, I'd ask for the wholesale price of $2200, especially given the very high mileage.
On the open market, I'd ask for $3500/obo, and settle for $2500 or better.
-juice
In reality, though, once mileage is that high, the condition of the car will determine everything. If it's clean and in good shape, has new timing belts and a fresh tune-up, then you're good to go.
If it's a beater full of dents and some rust, I'd give it to charity and take the tax deduction!
-juice
Mark
My dealer wasn't going to do the "pay the same as if port installed but we'll do it later" trick on the hitch... in fact she said she'd never installed, or brokered the installation of a trailer hitch in the 4 years she had been at the dealership. "People who want them go to U-haul", she said.
Subsequently, while still in the office, she called someone else and it appears I *may* be able to get a gate bar after all.
I'm going to take delivery of the car and go find my own aftermarket hitch. It is a bit beyond me how this story should have so much variability in it. The good news is that I expect to be highly satisfied when the car arrives, which I'm told might be soon.
--Jay
Tom is a great guy and I'm sure we can straighten this out!
And by "we" I definitely don't mean "me" as I have limited Forester knowledge -- I mean the cadre of enthusiasts that take the time to help others out. Hats off to everyone who contributes!
I know how you feel about the wait on an order; no matter how short or long, it is interminable! Once you've got it, please come back and share with us your likes/dislikes.
..Mike
..Mike
I have to say, that while I'm a car nut, I hate the process of buying cars. My wife hates it even more than I do. Linda Addison, our sales rep, made the process as easy and painless as possible. It was actually enjoyable!
Bob
..Mike
..Mike
Thanks all for your suggestions.
Bill
Unfortunately the wife and daughter are off to NC tomorrow. I'm already in withdrawal.
Bob
-mike
Rob Roy owns a Forester! YEAH Bay-bee! Congrats Bob.
The other Bob, too. Or at least your wife! If you can bring both to Fall Folliage, let Garry know, we're kind of close on the head count, and he might cancel.
paisan: the package names are kind of silly, but at least you get them cheaper as a group, if that's what you want.
-juice