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Does this mean the vehicle had to be repaired by the dealer?
If so how should it affect the price?
Does this mean all 97 subaru legacy outbacks should be inspected for these flaws or just certain vehicles?
They told me the recall status of 3 different 97s I was looking at. I love Subarus customer service.
With miles and extras, Edmunds used Vehicle Appraiser gave me a price,for dealer retail of $11,640 .
Most Dealers in my area have this vehicle priced at $14,995 (there are lots of them too)
The Kelly Blue book gave me a dealer retail of $15,630
The Kelly Blue book trade in price for this is $10,735
If we stick by the blue book on both sides the dealer is looking at $4895
I realize this would not be ALL profit, but this is still way too high.
The Edmunds price is $905 over Kelly's trade in and that seems to be still a good chunk of change.
Every dealer I have talked with hates Edmunds.
The dealer I was talking to today said:
"Oh those Edmunds prices are just made up, they don't mean anything. Edmunds is out of of California so they don't know what's going on in the Eastern US"
Tell that to Bill gates
PS
(If any of the dealers I have been talking to are reading this, why not take this chance to explain your pricing policies)
Also, regional prices will vary simply because of supply and demand. An Outback is worth more in snowy Colorado than it is in San Diego.
Still, Edmunds' numbers are a national average, far from meaningless. The dealer hates Edmunds because his prices are high!
-juice
In general, I read in several places that dealers make more profit reselling used cars than selling brand new.
Granted, there are sometimes great deals and steals to be had (I bought my first car --used Plymouth Horizon -- for $1,000 only and it was in great shape) when dealer is anxious to move the car, but it's also true that good used Subarus may be hard to get.
Don't know about San Diego, but here in Bay Area Soobs are getting more and more popular, and when you go to skiing areas, you see a lot of them.
New England dealers are under the control and dictatorship of Subaru of New England not SOA. SONE charges their dealers $55 more for destination for example. But that's not all. Dealers pay more for their cars and all the options which of course gets passed on to us.
There is a demand for Outbacks in my area, but there is also a big supply.
-mike
Maybe for MY2002.
-juice
Guess what - no response! I think Subaru is doing everything they can to NOT sell me a car. I'll just have to make the time to do the whole comparison shop thing between dealers all over again.
Tom
-mike
You'll hear from someone today. Sorry for the delay, but hopefully we'll have some meaningful information.
Thanks
Patti
Anyway, Gina does have information about your vehicle. I think you'll be pleased with the news.
Thanks!
Patti
Tom
-juice
I was told by my dealer that if I ordered a Forester by the end of January, it would be delivered around the first or second week of March. Is this correct? (Important because my lease on '97 OB ends near the end of March.)
Thanks!
-Dan
Thanks for sticking with Subaru!
Patti
-juice
That's a $11,009 difference. Does anybody honestly believe that the VDC is $11K better than a base Legacy wagon? Remember, those are discounted prices too!
Bob
Think about it - AWD, 4 wheel disc brakes with ABS, power everything, A/C, cassette, etc.
But go figure - noone wants one. The Outback outsells all other Legacys 3 to 1.
Anyone on a strict budget would be wise to look at the Legacy L. Maybe the reason they don't is because the economy has prospered so well?
-juice
-mike
-juice
Bob
Smart shoppers know where it's at though!
-mike
-juice
-mike
-mike
Oh, that's right, we're not "inside".
I think we can put up with a little off-topic-ness so long as it isn't with bad intentions.
-juice
First time poster. I am looking for a used Forester (~1999). The local dealer
has one. Not much variety huh.
Has anyone bought online and had the vehicle delievered? I read all 700+
posts last night and this morning. (My job starts in 1.5 weeks can you tell?)
In the posts, I gathered a lot of great info. I also saw some speaking of
buying online but not necessarily getting it delievered. My last resort is Carmax.
Any suggestions would be appreciated
Her salesman at Open Road in Edison asked her if she was buying her Rodeo or leasing another. She told him she was getting an Outback. His response was, "That's a good car". :-)
Dennis
Daniel: people tend to buy and hang onto their Soobs, so you'll find few recent used models. They come with a 5/60 powertrain warranty, and I usually suggest this - don't get a loan that's longer than your warranty.
In other words, if you buy new, get a 5 year loan (or shorter). If you get a 2 year old model, make sure the loan is only 3 years or less, so you'll be covered at least until it's paid off.
When you analyze that, and look at Subarus' good resale value, I think buying new is a better deal.
Forester L's start at around $19k, and loaded S Premium autos (with that huge moonroof) go for $23k or so. Use this dealer as a price reference:
http://www.fitzmall.com/
Good luck.
-juice
-mike
mike, I know it's a long haul for you but maybe try Flemington. They have excellent Subaru service so I would assume their Isuzu service is good as well. In the past I was making the 15 minute drive to Bell, but the quality service at Flemington has made the 35 min. drive well worth it.
Good luck,
Dennis
-mike
What size of capital reduction (deposit) are you putting down?
-mike
-mike