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  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    Had a great time everyone! good to meet Bluesubie and spouse, and francophile too!

    Cheesteaks were nice but gross. The real post-show news was Termini's Pastries. Holy Cow, am I glad we stopped for that one! Mike Smith and I dropped something like 50 bux in there combined. cannoli to die for, chocolate stuff, almond horns...uuughgghgh (ala Homer)

    I think Q is leaning toward the WRX wagon, and away from Mini. We'll see if that holds up when Mini actually shows up. then again, the Exploder may not last long enough anyway.

    Thanks again Patti. GT-B.

    Lucien
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Yes, it was great to meet you all - even if I didn't get to speak with everyone. We had to leave early as my brother-in-law had to get back down to his ship in Norfolk and we wanted to have lunch together. My wife and I went down to 2nd St. to haul a barstool back home in the Forester afterward.
    Missed the WRX starting up, but I figure I should be able to finagle a test drive come March-April. Too bad the rest of the '02 Impreza line wasn't there - would've made a good comparison to the WRXes, which I loved!

    Thanks, Patti and crew. See you out here soon.

    Ed
  • francophilefrancophile Member Posts: 667
    Patti, you're the greatest. Cool gear bags (which looked great and helped keep *me* cool by giving me a place to put my overcoat) and cool toys with Subie logos on them. The flashlight even had batteries in it! Plus you arranged the VIP tour and got Omar to START UP THE WRX for us, right there on the convention floor and in front of thousands of visitors. That was fantastic, thank you thank thank you! I'll take a silver wagon, 5-speed, gauges, faux carbon fiber trim, thanks :-)

    It was great to see everyone from the Edmunds hangout again too. Unfortunately my friend turned out to be a bit of a lightweight in the gearhead department; one quick trip around the show floors and he was ready to book. Audi drivers - poseurs! So I missed going around with you guys and helping you dissect the various new offerings. Next time, no Audi wimps, just Subie faithful - promise ;-)

    High points and surprises: Patti-Subie-WRX, the new T-Bird, the classic English cars and other concours pieces (did you guys see the boattail Lincoln stuck in the back of their exhibit - beautiful!), Jaguar XKR. The third highest point of all is that I may have gotten my Audi friend to agree that all that gray and black gunk everyone is gluing onto the bottom half of their "rough going" vehicles is ridiculous. We were in his beloved Audi exhibit (okay, okay, they're nice cars) and we stood there and looked from AllRoad to A6; I commented on the stupid gray goop, and he said, "I can see why you might say that." There's hope for him yet! Second highest point was the WRX, a surprisingly practical vehicle all things considered. Highest point was seeing and meeting everyone.

    SIA, anyone?

    Cheers,
    -wdb
  • francophilefrancophile Member Posts: 667
    [Wherein wdb takes a bit of license with, among other things, the term "side bar", those boxes with little snippets of information in them that you see stuck in and around news and magazine articles.]

    I drove my '00 Legacy GT to the Philly car show with my Audi friend in the passenger's seat. As we were heading back to his place he told me we would be taking an exit ramp[1] that was a favorite of his. It's two lanes wide, gently banked, and curves around to the right in a broad, smooth, continuous 270-or-so degree arc. He told me he likes to rip through there in the left lane, passing people who are pooping along in the right lane.

    As we approached the exit I was thrilled to see that we would have the ramp to ourselves. I downshifted into 4th and set the car on its entry trajectory; my friend grabbed for the chicken bar. Oops, heheh, maybe my entry speed had him concerned; too late now to do much about it! The Subie hunkered down, grabbed on, and confidently took us into the arc at around 4000 RPMs (I did not look at the speedo). Once the suspension was set I added a bit of throttle, then feathered the throttle and steering to keep the well-worn RE 92s right on the edge of serious complaint. They were scrabbling and scratching a wee bit but were comfortably below the howling stage. The car tracked like it was on rails, felt very neutral, and as always pulled no surprises. Although we were in the outer, left lane I felt as though I could have switched to the inside lane at any time. Nice, really nice exit ramp! My friend was right.

    We eased off the end of the ramp into light traffic on Germantown Pike, headed west. My friend said, as he relaxed his grip, "wow, you took that pretty much faster than I usually do". Heh heh.

    Cheers,
    -wdb

    [1] For those of you familiar with the area the ramp to which he was referring is the exit from I-476 North onto Germantown Pike West, the last exit on I-476 before the PA Turnpike entrance.
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    ... I am in profile in photo 9 of Juice's portfolio, between Paisan and Scott. Bright blue jacket, navy cap. Glad it was a distance shot so you can't see my cold sore ;-( .

    BTW, people saw me in the SWRT jacket and started asking me questions as though I was an SoA rep. I think I did okay - it helped that I read this forum as well as the world motoring press. One 20-ish guy grilled me as to why the US wasn't getting the full-bore JDM WRX. I told him that SoA was gauging US public response, that the accessories from STi would help, and that the possibility exists that the WRX STi may be imported into the US in a couple of years. Seemed to satisfy him.

    Seriously, I think we caught poor Omar a little off guard. This is a well-educated bunch of Subaru fans!

    Ed
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Don't forget Dennis (bluesubie) and his better half were also there, plus WDB. We had more than a dozen folks!

    Did Mike make it home? ;-)

    Ed: did I see you there? You're not in any photos.

    Patti: thanks very much for the canvas bag, flashlight, CD holder, pen, etc. Love getting goodies, and other folks at the show kept asking where we got 'em! Sorry, VIPs only. ;-)

    Also appreciated the FREE passes and not having to wait in line. We walked by hundreds of less fortunate plebes and right into the show.

    The Subaru stand was fantastic, with a WRX wagon AND sedan - plus they started it up! I'm sure that was way, way against the rules so we appreciate even the short amount of time that engine was running (quietly and smooth, too). Unbeatable.

    Pat's cheesesteaks were great. Had mine "wit" and loved it.

    Trying to keep up with paisan was even better. Now I know why he swaps break pads fairly often!

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1400062&Auth=false

    Check out the WRX and Subaru Crew albums. The latter ends in a funny note.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Speedy? nah! Dennis (bluesubie) actually passed me on the way up the NJ TP. (of course it was cause we were hitting a rest stop)

    So when are we gonna have a BBQ this spring? Maybe in DE or something like that!

    Also let's get this SIA thing going. I think we'd have a ball!

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    BBQ sounds good. Come to SCOA's covered bridge tour in April, too.

    Besides that, let's keep each other posted on any rallycross events we attend. That ought to be fun.

    -juice
  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246
    Bob,

    I soon realized after I departed the convention center with Hutch, Lucien & Kirsten that upon arrival at the lot off 95 in MD (where we left the cars), Hutch would get into his Forester and I would be, um, walking. D'oh! That's what I get for carpooling w/juice and disengaging my brain.

    Fortunately, Loosh & Q are troopers and schlepped me all the way home to Silver Spring (40mins detour, each way)! Hats off to you two! I think you get 5 marks in your column for that big favor.

    Loosh, www.termini.com ! What a find. Good detective work!

    WDB, great story!

    Ed, I can't believe I missed meeting you; I'm bummed! Did you run into juice?

    Bluesubie, good to meet you and your wife.

    paisan, WDB, well actually everybody, wish I could have stayed longer.

    WRX is schweet!

    Patti, thanks again for showing us such hospitality and for introducing your sons and co-workers. I was so happy to finally meet the person that has been so helpful to owners on this board (and countless other owners).

    Cheers,

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    We half-way expected to find you there at 7pm, freezing like a popsicle!

    -juice
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Yes, it was a blast. Patti, thanks for the first class treatment.
    I was thinking of the wagon (in a year or so) but the sedan looked better than I expected. It was a pleasure meeting everyone.
    It was funny watching the kid questioning Ed (good job, btw). Later he called me around to the sedan and said the center console was in the way for shifting. I told him it was just because the knob was off of the shifter.
    Mike, yeah I figured you were going to the rest stop (wow, mike is in the right lane).

    Hope to see all (plus more) again soon.

    Dennis
  • natescapenatescape Member Posts: 176
    Has to be moved noath so us New Engladahs can pahticipate. Maybe New Jersey... :)
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Just checked out the photos -- looks like you guys had a great time!

    Nice job on the pics, juice!

    Ken
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    BTW, did you guys see a notable difference in the WRX sedan vs. wagon rear legroom?

    Just curious...

    Ken
  • barresa11barresa11 Member Posts: 277
    Ken: Yeah, I was wondering about the legroom diff too. According to the brochure (of which I've basically memorized) there is a 7/10 of an inch gain on the wagon, 33" sedan vs 33.7" wagon. There also appears to be 6/10 of an inch gain in headroom on the wagon, 36.7" sedan vs 37.3" wagon.

    Stephen
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I felt the difference. The sedan was merely adequate, still noticably roomier than the current RS sedan's "penalty box". One of the pictures shows me in the back seat - I wouldn't complain.

    The wagon, though, was great. The knee room may even be better than the Forester, because the front seats are scooped out, but headroom doesn't match the tall-boy Forester.

    The cargo area is potentially huge - until you have to close the hatch. Then tall, boxy items will not fit, and I'd miss that about the more functional Forester.

    Still, the roof rack looked sturdy. It needs cross rails and a roof rails, but then it's sweet.

    -juice
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Member Posts: 1,676
    Great Story - I could actually picture it and had a good chuckle. Thanks for sharing it!

    Patti
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I forwarded the Philly show pixs (URLs) to Glenn at New Impreza.com. Who knows, maybe he'll post them too.

    Bob
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    Wow - looks like you guys had fun - again! Starting up a WRX inside the show? That should've turned some heads towards the WRX's even more!

    I guess I'll put out one last request for anyone interested in meeting at the Chicago show on Saturday. I'm going regardless with some friends (I'm the only one with a Subaru). I guess those interested should contact me here or at bbear@execpc.com for more information. We could even stop for some good ol' Italian beef (none of that philly steak stuff) :->.

    -Brian

    Patti: any chance that the reps at the Chicago show would startup a WRX while I'm there?
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Omar (see photos Juice posted), from SOA, said he was heading to the Chicago show.

    Bob
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    I'll make sure to check in at the Subaru booth and look him up. Saturday is the official opening to the public (Friday is the charity night), so he should be there.

    -Brian
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Member Posts: 1,676
    folks from SOA to go to the shows. I'll let you know what I hear. Personally, I could use some of my frequent flier miles - - - - -

    Patti
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    'cause, althou he was a nice guy, Omar wasn't exactly all over his material. Didn't believe in the product enough to get too into it. His golf swing looked good, though.......

    Career salesmen. Doesn't matter if it's cars or industrial chemicals.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    And why would SOA hire people who don't know anything about the products to show them?

    I met Omar, but he was a dribbling idiot when it came to knowing subarus, and he was the best SOA had to offer?

    ;)

    -mike
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Do you think any one person will have as much knowledge as a bunch of Subaru nuts like ourselves?? :-)
    Dennis
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    SOA should be sending us to tell their story at these car shows. I'm the first to volunteer. :)

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I'll drive us to the events! Dramameen (sp.) will be given out to all occupants.

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Dramamine? With you behind the wheel, I think a sedative would be a better choice. (hehe)

    Bob
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    I'll go too!

    Look, I am not saying he had to know it all (but he should've, since this is a debut and people are full of questions), but the "budda-bing" attitude, gum chewing and golf-swing practicing aren't traits that jive too well with the Subaru demographic. Is all I'm sayin'. Bambi.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Road Show. The "Subaru Crewsters." Who knows, maybe we could even get booked in Vegas? ;)

    Bob
  • barresa11barresa11 Member Posts: 277
    Okay, now you got my attention. Maybe another reality based show?

    Stephen
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Can you believe the Pontiac Aztec is (still) sponsoring the Survivor II program—in Australia, no less? Boy, you would have thought Subaru would have leaped at that marketing opportunity!

    Bob
  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246
    lucien2 Feb 6, 2001 5:12am hehehehe

    paisan is a tad harsh (newsflash!) and Dennis makes a good point.

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • barresa11barresa11 Member Posts: 277
    Mike Smith: I find that Mike (paisan) usually says what I really want to say before I (try?) to edit myself somewhat. Actually, at times, what I really want to say (not in the Soob Crew site)is a lot more brutal than anything Mike (paisan) has ever said. I'm not sure this is a good thing. I've sure tested myself in the Aztek site though, to be sure! :-)

    Stephen
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    more often. Although I like people to know where I stand :)

    -mike
  • barresa11barresa11 Member Posts: 277
    I wasn't advocating changing anything Mike! I like reading some of your posts and saying to myself "RIGHT ON...why didn't I say THAT". BTW, I'm known as one who doesn't hold back much when I'm at work. Maybe, it's because something is in print in Edmunds that I tend to catch myself....who knows.

    Stephen
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    You can't blame 'em - they hire pretty models (mostly gorgeous women from my experience) that aren't hard to look at, and then train them to know basically what's in the brochure. No more, no less. That's what the public wants.

    The catch is we aren't typical buyers, or show-goers, for that matter. How many "normal" people go to TWO auto shows in one year, both of them out of town! And miss the local show?!

    SoA should have an open house for club members only, and have a little show and tell where we can drive the cars.

    Anything less, especially what's intended for the public, isn't going to please everyone here.

    -juice

    PS I think Pontiac nabbed the show and has a long-term contract. Shame they're wasting the exposure on such a lame duck
  • FrankMcFrankMc Member Posts: 228
    It's too early, you have to give the managers a chance to change jobs so a new guy can come in and blame the old guy.
    Frank
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    Oh they've given up allright. It goes under the knife later this year, with an emergency re-skin. They've actually only sold 7,000 of the miserable things, not counting the giveaways and the 2,000 that execs have to drive around Detroit in.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Man, I'd quit. Or ask to be reassigned to Subaru, so I could drive a WRX demo!

    -juice
  • FrankMcFrankMc Member Posts: 228
    They are in the "Oh Oh, we have to patch this up" mode.

    Frank
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    It'll still be hideously ugly. It's the overall package, not just some details, that make it ugly.

    Look at the shape of the D-pillar. It's both ugly and REMOVES utility from the vehicle. I doubt that will change.

    Plus, it's still on a not-so-safe platform with an underpowered, outdated, inefficient engine.

    -juice
  • FrankMcFrankMc Member Posts: 228
    I just know that they put too much money in it to give up so quickly. (How it got approved is beyond me)

    Frank
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    In that sense they haven't given up, but this is a corporate platform, so "giving up" isn't in the cards. I just meant on the looks of the thing.
  • soon2bsubeesoon2bsubee Member Posts: 137
    Michael and I went to the Cavallino Festival again this year. This is a gathering of Ferraris from all over the country; for four days, the color red rules the streets of Palm Beach Florida and that sweet sound you hear is the roar of V12s. I created a photo point album from the first set of photos (track day at Moroso). We are waiting for the photos of the Concourse D'Elegance at the Breakers Hotel...here is the link to the first album...enjoy


    http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1518651&a=11480675

  • barglebargle Member Posts: 13
    Does anyone (Patti?) know if Subaru will be showing off the WRX at the Denver autoshow (March 7-11), or for that matter whether they'll be there at all? The www.subaru.com web-site's events page mysteriously doesn't list anything after February 3...

    Bargle
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Not sure, but that's so close to the launch date that some dealers may have them around then.

    -juice
  • pattim3pattim3 Member Posts: 533
    I have heard that it will be there!

    Patti
  • barglebargle Member Posts: 13
    Coooool! Looks like I'll definitely be going to the show this year then. Anyone else in the Denver area thinking of going?

    Bargle
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