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  • alingaling Member Posts: 598
    "We'll coerce you to buy one eventually! ;) Maybe when a) your van begins to show its age and b) Subaru comes out with an Exiga-like vehicle (i.e., Outback w/3rd row of seats). Interesting that some MB models have "soft" brakes and some don't.

    ..Mike"


    Hehe, that may be a while yet. I'm currently saving my pennies for the '02 S430 4-matic.

    My van is already starting to show its age ( MY1994 Grand Voyager LE AWD), but it has been okay mechanically (still on my first tranny), and only has about 89K kms. Also, ocassionally I (or my parents) do need to bring out of town visitors or relatives around, so I'll probably have it for at least another 1.5 years.

    Option B is certainly interesting, but a Subaru AWD minivan would be nice. The only AWD minivans on the market currently are the Chryslers, and I think that Subaru would do well with this idea, especially in Canada. Perhaps the Grand Forester will incorporate 3rd row seat idea. I just hope they don't make the vehicle one size too small.

    In the mean time, my neighbour has been itching to get rid of her Honda CR-V. She has already shown interest in the Outback wagon (specifically a Winestone Pearl, just like Juice's dad's). Another neighbour of mind has already bought a white OBS, upon my recommendation. So, I do what I can for Subaru :-)

    Drew
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Kate: I'd "add" a cancellation notice to Motor Trend. ;)

    Kidding. They are my least favorite, though.

    Road & Track is owned by the same folks that do Car & Driver, so that's a bit redundant. Go with Automobile.

    Unless you have an RS, in which case Sport Compact Car would be more appropriate.

    Since you enjoy the couch, Motorweek is right on TV, if you don't mind that type of media. Plus, they're much more Subaru-friendly than Edmunds.

    -juice
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    If C&D and MT are not enough, I guess you could add Road & Track too, but I've always thought C&D was the one and only car mag for me, so I can't officially recommend R&T! (even though they are part of the same publisher now). Anybody remember the days when the writers at C&D made wisecracks about MT and R&T? They were constantly bashing the dorks at one magazine or the wimps at another, and it was pretty hilarious.

    Seriously, though, I think C&D is about the best monthly out there. Their technical dept is top notch -- they actually use empiracal data correction methods to standardize their performance data to reference conditions, so you can be sure that performance of one model tested in 90 degree weather in July is an even comparison with another model tested in the dead of winter. To my knowledge, they're the only ones who do that. Besides the technical aspect though, I like their writing style and sense of humor.

    Craig
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    I have dropped everyrhing but Autoweek. I like their writing style. I liked C&D's testing, but my god, could they give the anti-liberal anti-conservation anti-environmental thing a rest dor just ONE issue?!? I just started getting really irritated by their editorial stance. Look, the tech isn't great yet, but they are cars for chrissake, so why not encourage things like the insight and Prius, and look on them with interest instead of disdain? VW TDI Beetle article, under 0-60, they said "fugedaboudit." Well damn people, it is a diesel! Shift around 1500 or 2000 instead of riding it up to 6000 like a gas engine, and you'd be turning in the 9 second 0-60 times that experienced diesel drivers all over the internet were reporting. I just buy it off the newsstand now when it looks interesting.

    I do like some of the UK mags, especially, I think it is called "Car" or "Auto" Shucks, i am overwhelmed at work here and can't remember. Anyway, a much more balanced approach...they actually test normal cars! Like a legacy L!! Cleverly written, with engaging text and lots of wit. I like the term "Yank Tank" they use for imported SUVs. Plus a huge test digest in the back, lots of slightly OT articles, too. Russell Bulgin had a great piece on the lure of Sony Playstation GT2. It really is more of a lifestyle mag for car nuts. Imagine that, a Euro mag that is stylish, and sophisticated! It is to US car mags what Mojo is to Rolling Stone, or the Economist in to Time. IMHO. But I'm not opinionated or anything.

    ;)
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
    Found this on another Town Hall Topic

    http://www.autosite.com/editoria/asmr/svolsu.asp

    should start some interesting comments :)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Drew: my neighbor sells carpets and goes through vans like toilet paper. They typically last him 80k miles or so on the first tranny, or about 128k kms. Hopefully you can trade up once you hit 110k or so.

    GM is supposed to come out with an AWD van, since the Aztec will get AWD soon, but it's not much of a safe platform and the AWD would be unproven.

    So yes, a Grand Forester would be nice. Though I actually desire the "one size too small" you're thinking of. A 3rd row just for emergencies would be nice.

    GM will have the folding 3rd seat soon, so why not copy that for the Grand Forester?

    Craig - another plug for C&D: they're the only ones that do top speed testing on every vehicle.

    Loosh - I fully agree about the editorials, and have basically started skipping them. I think you're talking about Car. They're the ones that tested a Forester Turbo against the Volvo XC and Audi Allroad, which they call Estates of course!

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Thanks for sharing the info, tincup.

    Explorer sales will tank. That was July, before all the media hype.

    Other surprises, to me at least, are how low sales are for the Rodeo, RAV4, Grand Viagra, and Trooper.

    Escape/Tribue at zero. That's funny. I had guessed they'd be near the top.

    See, told ya everyone but the EPA considers the Forester an SUV. The fact that it's an excellent little AWD wagon can be our little secret!

    :)

    -juice
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
    I read Autoweek and C&D, I agree about the right wing editorials, feel like I'm reading nutcase militia monthly. My take on Motor Trend is that they are soft on whoever pays the most advertising dollars. Check out this link and see some of the past "Car of the Years", good for quite a laugh.

    http://www.motortrend.com/oty/index.html
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
    Those weren't for sale in July...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    "nutcase militia monthly" - LOL!

    They probably weren't for sale due to the recall. I missed the chance to drive one at Edmunds Live for the same reason.

    I remember they picked the Caprice over some more interesting cars, and that was when it had the rear fender skirts and not the Impala SS model.

    -juice
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
    That and some of the other's are very funny
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    Heh. I like C&D's stance, but then again I'm a card-carrying NRA life member who also works for an oil company. ;)

    The liberal voice is well represented, so I find it refreshing for a change. Then again I don't care enough to subscribe.

    -Colin
  • rabergraberg Member Posts: 2
    Thanks to eveyone who responded to my questions about the alarm. The information has been useful. I will likely get one in the near future. I plan to speak with the deal about the Subaru alarm -- I particularly want the ignition cut off feature in any system I have installed.

    Richard
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    I am not a raving liberal, but I am not a raving conservative either. Within the context of this one publication, i would say it does lean in one direction. See, I am a car nut. I also know that, arguments over the validity of global warming aside, oil is a non-renewable resource, a resource upon which my infatuation depends. So I get annoyed when they go off on these anti-conservation rants, or anti-hybrid rants, becasue hell, that may be the only way to get behind a wheel at some point. It just bums me out, because all this emerging technology is pretty cool, and they just blow it off. That's it, really, it isn't that political to me, it is about the cars, and the technology involved. There are 300hp VW diesels runnung SCCA type races in Germany for pete's sake!

    their stance strikes me as shortsighted, and comes off like a bunch of grumpy old men. OK, great, you invented the Cannonball run, and you there seem to pretty attached to that Malamute/wolf mix of yours, but you aren't speaking to this hombre.
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    oil is a non-renewable resource

    Don't be so sure about that. ;)

    -Colin
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    There is a guy I read about on the TDI boards a while back that was recycling french fry oil in his diesel. Yeesh, talk about compression, huh?
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    do you really work for an oil company?
  • alingaling Member Posts: 598
    Isn't that call Eco-diesel? I know that VW ran an eco-diesel modified VW Beetle in one of the races in Germany and it actually came out on top of regular diesel powered Beetles.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    You know, I had forgotten about the grumpy old men editorials at C&D. Probably because I don't take them too seriously -- they usually range from amusing to ridiculous on my scale, with an occasional yeah maybe. Bedard does back up a lot of his opinions with data, but you have to interpret it cautiously. He also had an article that argued the heat and entropy generated by automobile brakes was more a contributor to global warming than ozone depletion. So in other words, why not just remove brakes from cars instead of worrying about emissions? As wild and silly as that sounds, he backed it up with some thermodynamics. Being a mechanical engineering student at the time, I found that one very amusing! As entertainment, the editorials are usually pretty good -- just don't take them too seriously.

    Craig
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    Yep Lucien, I do work for an oil company -- the second largest privately held US corporation. www.kochind.com

    I wasn't talking about recycled cooking or even motor oil. I was referring to a theory being tested that crude oil is actually the product of geothermal processes-- a bit like coal, and not long-dead plant and animal remains. Not a popular theory because environmentalists don't like the idea and people selling crude oil don't like it either. But there are some documented examples of oil fields refilling... I'll leave it at that, everyone probably is sure I'm nuts now. You can research it a bit if you care, I'm not joking though.

    Hey, did you ever get my email reply about your performance and track questions? You hinted at it in another post here but never sent an email. I replied from work the same day you I got your message.

    -Colin
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    The pick of the UK car magazines is Car, published monthly and a very thoughtful, well written journal. I'm not sure that I would call it a lifestyle magazine but flicking back though some old copies I am reminded of the many interesting topics addressed. From time to time the columnists are barking mad, pushing some pet theory which excites comment from readers, but the writing is excellent, the tests objective and the photography superb. Car is printed on high quality gloss paper and is an all round good read.
    It has a sharply edited, pithy, summary of all cars on sale in Britain, sometimes known as "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly"

    The next most useful read is probably Autocar, the world's oldest motoring paper (originally "The Autocar" and merged with "Motor"), published each week and giving probably the best, most objective tests of any magazine I have ever seen. It is the paper which all the motor trade read and there is a funny little section at the back where the motor trade advertises for staff etc. It also has a car by car summary of the essential specs (top speed, 0 to 60, horsepower) with comparisons to some past greats (I remember the VW Beetle and Golf GTi Mk i and Mk ii) for ease of cross checking. This is much harder to come by outside the UK but its tests and opinions are quoted widely. Try a search under Google quoting Autocar UK and Subaru for some references.

    Oddly, the flavour of both Car and Autocar has been set by Australian journalists with the Editor in chief of Autocar being Steve Cropley, who grew up in the outback town of Broken Hill. That's where my mum and dad met and it is fringe desert country (actually by US standards where rainfall below 10 inches per annum is a measure of desert, it is seriously desert country). It's the sort of place where you can, as my father once did, lose a car in a dust filled pot hole. On the way back from their honeymoon, mum had to push the car for twenty miles through mud formed by the bulldust, wetted by sudden rain, as dad drove, the speedo showing they had covered sixty due to the wheels slipping in the mud. I am not sure how Cropley made the transition from outback Australia, but he is an extremely interesting writer on motoring topics of broad interest as well as having his finger on the pulse of the international motoring industry.

    There is also a good although slightly down market, car comparison magazine called "What Car" which is unashamedly targeted at the non car-nut with lots of comparison tests of fleet type vehicles. In the UK, the majority of car purchases are for fleet vehicles, the tax system having historically made company supplied vehicles very attractive as a salary packaging tool. Most users have a range of choices available, possibly several hundred different cars within their leasing price range. On this basis, a car comparator showing really useful items like the number of cupholders is really important for potential buyers. However, What Car is written for an audience barely literate and probably incapable of intelligent thought in the automotive plain (there is a glorious English phrase for such types - Bottom Feeders - which implies the sort of fish which poke methodically but unimaginatively along the river bottom, looking for scraps. Translation to humans is unkind but very English). I am forever grateful for the Video distributed by this magazine where the Editor, unintentionally, explained to me that the pronunciation was not "What Car?" but "Whaccar!" (possibly "wocker") expressed in a peculiar dialect known as Estuarine English. Imagine funny working class Englishmen with greyhounds and flat caps and you have the general idea. If you have never been to England, try thinking of New Jersey or maybe Pittsburgh and you will get the general idea. Thinking about it, that pronunciation of "Joisey" is very similar.

    When we moved back to Australia, I kept all the Car magazines but dumped the rest, the Autocar's being really hard to part with.

    In Australia, the best car magazine is Wheels http://www.carpoint.com.au/wheels/wheelshome.asp which was actually the training ground for many of the UK journalists. The all time best motoring article I have ever seen was published over two editions of Wheels - a recollection by Evan Green, a respected rally driver and motoring journalist, of his time with Malcolm Campbell as he pursued the World land Speed record in Bluebird on the salt flats of Lake Eyre in about 1964. This has not, apparently, been republished elsewhere although it is really worth locating.

    That's enough

    Cheers

    Graham
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Member Posts: 1,676
    my thoughts about you folks with others here at Subaru. You are really great for our business (Drew's quite the sales guy as of late). I just thought you all should know how much you are appreciated by everyone at Subaru. We're noticing and it really helps reaffirm our commitment to this site!
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Hey patti, when you have a good product, you get dedicated people like us, it is great to know that people @ SOA actually care what their constituents have to say.

    -mike
  • hardenbrhardenbr Member Posts: 11
    Patti, can we take advantage of the good mood at SOA and get some inside info? I read a post on another forum regarding Suabaru's intention of bringing a vehicle based on the ST-X into production for 2002. Is this program on track? How close will it be to the concept ST-X? If you don't have this information, at least know that some of us are waiting impatiently to see the results.

    I love driving my wife's Legacy, but I'm used to having a PU bed. I'm afraid I'd miss it too much to go with any current Subaru model for myself.

    Is anyone else out there looking expectantly to the release of the ST-X?
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Besides Mac computers, Subaru is one of the few "products" that I actually see people get excited and enthusiastic about. In my short time as a Subaru owner, I can see that Subaru customers have a lot of brand loyalty and are extremely passionate about their cars. You're lucky to be involved with such a great car company.

    I'm really glad to hear that Subaru is so tuned-in to the customer -- it reaffirms what I've come to learn about the whole Subaru experience.

    Craig
  • bat1161bat1161 Member Posts: 1,784
    Picked up my Outback last night. Unbelievable! I love it so much I picked up my boss and 2 other co-workers and drove them in this morning. They all agree that it rides beautifully, and looks great.
    I love my Subaru!
    Mark
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Mark: Cool! Have fun, and start thinking up excuses to go out for a drive whenever you can.

    Patti: One thing I forgot to mention -- I hope you get a chance to follow the other active Subaru topics on Edmunds, like the Legacy/Outback #451, Subaru Wagons #353, and the Forester #2674 and #2928 (among others). I can imagine these would be a gold mine of information for Subaru.

    Craig
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Graham - Great post on your take of auto rags - as usual. My take on UK car publications is, that while very informative and well written, they almost all have some degree of anti-USA bias when it come to American cars or driving. Some of it is well deserved, but not all of it.

    One UK writer whom I really enjoy is that oddball L.G.K Setright (I'm not sure if that's correct spelling of his name). No question about it, he lives in his own zip code, but he's very interesting and entertaining.

    Patti - Glad to hear we're having some impact at SOA. Hopefully some of our comments on future product will bear some fruit.

    Bob
  • rangerron7rangerron7 Member Posts: 317
    Hi Everybody!
    I've been lurking here on the boards for the last few months and owe it to you all for guiding me toward my purchase of a '00 OB. I've had it about 2 1/2 months now and have about 2800 miles on it and love it so far! The week after I bought my OB, my sister-in-law picked up a Legacy sedan at the same dealer. It's the first "good car" she has ever had and she loves it as well. (Considering that all she had to compare to was a Pontiac T1000 and Hyundia, you can see why.) She really likes the idea of AWD.
    I've got a question for the esteemed panel: I remember several years ago, there being a Subaru small pick-up type truck that had seats in the bed facing rearwards. Was that the "Brat" and what's the deal with two seats in the bed facing rearwards?
    Ron
  • qsubaruqsubaru Member Posts: 37
    which stands for
    Bi-range
    Recreational
    All Terrain
    Transport
    And Subaru added the rear seats so it would qualify as a car for export use.
    That helped keep the export taxes to
    a minimum.

    Darlene
  • rangerron7rangerron7 Member Posts: 317
    Thanks Darlene.
    That explains the goofy rear seats!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Congrats to Ron and Mark. I know Mark's been patiently awaiting his new wheels.

    Graham: thanks for reminding us there are other countries on this globe! I should add "Quattro Rodas" from Brazil, but only for the Portuguese speaking contingent. They're very unbiased, and test cars from all around the world.

    Colin: does that mean you get discounts on gas? ;)

    Craig/Patti: sorry, we're keeping her to ourselves! Actually, I keep up with those topics and invite folks over here, so they're aware of our access to SoA.

    Grumpy old men at C&D, well put. Csaba Csere (a fun name to pronounce) is too spoiled and only pays attention to luxury cars. Brock Yates is the militant conservative you all are talking about, and uses the word "[non-permissible content removed]" too often and to descrive any opponent of his. Patrick Bedard is a statistics freak, too much so. And they just lost their coolest editor in a high speed run of a hot-rod Benz. Bummer.

    Their former editor was much better, I forget his name but he just retired a year ago or so.

    -juice
  • kate5000kate5000 Member Posts: 1,271
    Am I correct guessing that this stands for "Four Wheels"?

    Obrigado, Juice (that's as much Portuguese as I can master ;)
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Do you get any USA car magazines down under? If so, do you have any favorites?

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Since we've been discussing car rags here, does anybody have any favorite editors?

    Without a doubt, my favorite is David E. Davis, from Automobile. You either like this guy, or you don't. There's no middle ground with D.E.D. Also, one of my favorite writers, from long ago, is Tom McCahill from Popular Mechanics. He's the guy who invented automotive journalism as we know it today. I used to read him when I was a kid. (Just how old are you Bob??)

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Correct, Kate. Way to go! :)

    My favorite is Denise McCluggage from Autoweek. How can you beat a female enthusiast from a generation that had no female enthusiasts?

    Even today, she could spank any one of us silly on a track. My kind of woman.

    In another life time, I'd have married her.

    -juice
  • centavocentavo Member Posts: 24
    I'm suscribed to Car & Driver, Motortrend, Road and Track and Consumer Reports. I prefer the C&D magazine, especially the quality of the reviews and the comparisons. Euro magazines are very good, I find only C&D may somehow compare to them. Of the British, Car is the best. Italian, Spanish and German publications are state of the art.
    CR have good reviews, but are a little soft on the driving aspects, so it came to me as a big surprise when the BMW X5 won top honors, because it has so little luggage space.
    My only blame on C&D is that there are only two or three young editors.
    About off road magazines, the best, by far, was Open Road. Sadly, some one on this forum told us that is no longer to be printed.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    PS Frank - that tint looks schweet.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Check out my latest web page, which I call when police officers attack!.

    James and Frank's Soobs are pictured.

    Pardon my lame attempt at humor, it is Friday afternoon!

    -juice
  • alingaling Member Posts: 598
    Wow, that has got to be one of the best looking Foresters I've seen yet! Love the blue, as well as the wheels.
  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246
    Indeed, Frank and James, schweet color and alloys. I've ogled that Blue Ridge Pearl on an RS; it's scrumptious! James, fitting that an officer in blue would also have a ride in blue (ok, I realize a helicopter pilot's flight suit
    probably isn't blue;
    it's the best I can do).

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    OK, Patti, tell the product planning folks to keep the Blue Ridge Pearl, but offer it on an Impreza WRX turbo (wagon please!) and WITH the fender flares from the sedan.

    That and the Grand Forester, maybe in Winestone Pearl monotone, with a supercharged H6 and 3 rows of seats that flip and fold like our parent company GM will offer on its vans.

    I may just have to get both!

    -juice
  • mr_markmr_mark Member Posts: 4
    Well, I didn't have a chance to send Juice a picture of my 2001 Forester S, but now I don't have to. It looks exactly like Frank's. I love the blue ridge pearl color!

    I've now had my Forester for about two months and have 1700 miles on it. I LOVE IT! Installed my arm rest extension the other day (ordered from Darlene of course). Did my first oil change at 1500 miles myself using a Subaru filter (again, ordered from Darlene).

    The only thing that bothers me is that little click I hear sometimes when the auto shifts into third gear. Would someone reassure me that it is the transfer case changing the front/rear torque distribution? I think I read that somewhere on one of these boards, but would feel better if someone like Patti said so. Patti?

    I am getting right around the stated 22 city and 26 highway MPG. I understand that this might improve after it is thoroughly broken in. I'm happy with the 26 though.

    I loaded the Scooby Doo to the hilt two weeks ago when I took my Daughter to college (she is a freshman at Purdue). Drove 70-75 MPH with the full load and a bike on the hitch mounted carrier and got 26 MPG. Ya just gotta love it!

    Have a great holiday weekend everybody!

    Mark
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    Australia is fairly weird on the magazine front. There can be whole racks given over to car magazines, some of the at the very highly specialized end of the market. I have to admit that most are of the "Big engine, cool paintwork, trick stereo" type with an average reading age of about ten (probably recognizing that the prime demographic for motoring magazines is teenage boys), but there are some exceptions.

    Even suburban newsagents stock magazines from around the world, with just masses of foreign car magazines. You can even get Car & Driver at my nearest Service Station news stand. You also tend to get the wackier European things which have exquisitely chic art photos of (almost always European) cars in improbable settings. The text is as wacky as most style magazines. They are the sort of magazines you find in the reception areas for advertising houses and graphic studios; you know the sort of thing where you read them and wonder whether there is any possibility of communicating using a common language.

    We also get things like Japanese language mags and also some out of places like Indonesia (I think that's where they come from, anyway). Whilst of the cool paintwork variety, they have much better production values than the Australian magazines as they sell to a much larger market.

    My favourite US magazine is Road & Track, which has fascinated me since I was a child and it appeared in our small country town library every month. The writing is mostly pretty good and years ago they always had a lovely end piece on the final pages. Perhaps, the concentration is a little to much on the fast cars end of the spectrum for my taste.

    Car & Driver appeals less. I am one of those readers who likes to form their own opinions from intelligent analysis, not from pre-digested opinion pieces. If I read something with an excessively left stance, my views tend to swing fairly right wing. If, as with Car & Driver, the stance is outrageously conservative, I suddenly go over all-liberal. For a long time, I found the wackier views of LJK Setright in Car too extreme for my tastes, but he did express them very well.

    Mention of the phrase "living in his own zip code" reminds me of a lovely, although not directly equivalent Australian phrase " A few kangaroos short in the top paddock". Isn't the English language fun?

    Cheers

    Graham
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Graham - He also wrote a bit for either Car & Driver, or Automobile, for a while a few years back. I remember a few editorials written by David E. Davis describing some of the situations he found himself in with Setright. Those stories were absolutely hilarious.

    Speaking of the English language, I don't know of any other automotive scribe who has a better grasp of, or how to exploit the subtle nuances of the language, than LJK Setright.

    Bob
  • armac13armac13 Member Posts: 1,129
    A few clowns short of a circus.
    The wheel's spinning, but the hamster's dead.
    A few feathers short of a whole duck.
    Couldn't pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel.
    He bought an Aztek.

    Ross
  • nypdaunypdau Member Posts: 38
    Thanks Juice, for posting my new Soob:) I am absolutely in love with it, all 123 miles so far! The guys I work with swear that I "drank the Kool-Aid" at the Subaru dealership! OK, so some cults are not evil:)

    Funny to see obrigado again, I visited Recife and Olinda a few years ago as a guest of the Pernambuco police--The other word they taught me was goshtoza, (sp?) you can enlighten the group Juice as I forget the exact translation.

    Mike- Thanks, I DO love the blue ridge! As a matter of fact our flightsuits ARE blue as well, which makes them a pain to order as nomex doesn't dye well, and most manufacturers stick to sage and royal blue. If I remember to bring the camera to work tomorrow, I'll pull the Forester onto the flightline to catch both of my "rides" on one image!

    Frank- Congrats brother! Your Soob looks awesome with the tint! I am very tempted to have mine done as well, but I shudder to think of a poorly done tint job. I have no experience myself, but I have seen some poor jobs. I would be loathe to accept even a tiny bubble. Is there an trade association of auto window tintmen? What do you folks think about ensuring a proper job?

    Patti-You and your company have earned my respect and loyalty. I really did the research on this purchase and it has been a great experience:)

    More pics to come:)

    James
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Light's on, but nobody's home.

    Bob
  • tlimatlima Member Posts: 124
    Forester involved in serious crash during test drive. Here's the link:

    http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/story.pl/news/04172361.htm

    There was some footage of the scene on local news. Looked like a Black '01 Forester S+. The car was completely destroyed. They had to remove the roof to get the people out. Although I did not know this salesman, I purchased my '01 Forester from this dealership 2 weeks ago.

    Seeing this stuff always makes you realize that every car has it's limits. Although we enjoy the great handling characteristics of our Subarus, our limits are much higher, especially in poor road conditions, resulting in a much more serious situation when those limits are broken. Be careful out there...

    My prayers and best wishes are with the victims for a complete and rapid recovery.

    -Tony
  • aussierooaussieroo Member Posts: 78
    two sandwiches short of a picnic.
    two floors short of an elevator.
    ninety cents in the dollar.
    mad as a cut snake.
    silly as a two bob watch.
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