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  • golfmoregolfmore Member Posts: 1
    This is the first Subaru I have owned (well, almost) i had A 1988 GL WAGON 4wd for 4 years. It was rough cond, but worked well in the snow. The latest one is a luxury car compared. I'm not sure what mileage to expect. I am getting 21 in the city with the air on. Going on a trip in it next week. Hope to get 26 or so. This one has 40K miles. What can I expect for repair costs? I have a 100K warranty bumper to bumper on it.Any comments are appreciated. Thanks. moregolf@worldnet.att.net
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Congrats, moregolf, although since you didn't get a VW should we call you NOmoregolf? Or moreAWD? ;-)

    Mike: inverted outlet? No way, all mine are horizontally opposed, of course! -: :-

    Drew: so, according to your display, you have 9.2 BARS in your vehicle! Woo-hoo! Serve me up a cold one! :-)

    Congrats to Richard, too. Give us more details!

    Someone asked, so my photos can be found here.

    Pardon my whacky mood. It's Monday.

    -juice
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Mark: Mustangs have been used by a number of state police/highway patrol units over the last decade. I have seen them in New York, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida livery. I have also seen Camaros used in Georgia and Florida. South Carolina had a single last-gen BMW M5 patrol car, but I think it was used primarly for propaganda purposes concurrently with the opening of the BMW manufacturing plant in Greer.

    The current Drive magazine (SoA house publication) features an Outback used by the Burlington, NJ police department. I can't remember what the accompanying letter stated but I think Burlington uses it for crowd control activities.

    Last-gen Impreza Turbos have been used as pursuits in Australia and the UK; can't speak of their use in other countries.

    Ed
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    they also use Subarus (Legacys?) as police cars.

    Bob
  • drew_drew_ Member Posts: 3,382
    Heh heh, well it can be configured to PSI too, instead of BARs.


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  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Bob,

    Yep, I saw some last year when I was vacationing in Rome. There was some big parade with the military, police and other armed forces and I caught a glimpse of several Legacy wagons among the emergency vehicles. Pretty cool!

    Ken
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    You gotta love this place. Every other day someone's going to Europe. Can I squeeze into someone's bags?

    -juice
  • hammersleyhammersley Member Posts: 684
    Graham: That makes more sense... Foresters as first response, non-transport vehicles would work well. Transport vehicles don't have to be as fast as they used to me, since pre-hospital care & treatment protocols have expanded & improved over the years, making the "haul [non-permissible content removed] to the hospital" mentality less of a necessity. Size does matter, however... it's far easier to do CPR, airway management, trauma care, start multiple IV's etc. when there's room to work. Our newest ambulances in our community mount the stretcher in the center of the rear floor, rather than against the street-side wall, to better allow access to both sides of the patient.

    Drew: Gold star for your golden hour answer. We also use the "golden 10 minutes" as a guideline for our on-scene times.

    More than you probably wanted to know :)
    Cheers!
    Paul
  • yellowbikedonyellowbikedon Member Posts: 228
    My daughter, a 2000 Outback owner, has had repeated problems with the interior moulding coming off the rear hatch. She has brought the wagon into the selling dealer five times and five times the "fix" (which included using the "new red clips") failed. The service department has tolds her this is a common problem with Outbacks.

    Has anyone heard of such a similar problem? Does anyone know of a real "fix?"

    My daughter is hesitant to call SoA and leave a message for Patti. She feels the dealer will hold this against her.

    I'd appreciate any feedback.

    My e-mail address is .

    Thanks in advance for any help forthcoming.

    Don
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I wonder if the dealer can use an epoxy or sealant to hold it in place. I've never heard of that type of leak, only door windows not adjusted to seal properly.

    -juice
  • yellowbikedonyellowbikedon Member Posts: 228
    Juice,

    As always, thanks for the comments!

    Now, anyone else ever hear of the problem of the interior moulding coming off?

    Don
  • originalbitmanoriginalbitman Member Posts: 920
    Nope. Nada. Actually no interior trim problems at all.

    bit
  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246
    Don, This is a new one on me. A quick search on the yahoo Outback mailing list turned up nothing. Encourage your daughter to open up a case so SoA can track the problem -- documenting a problem now, no matter how small, is good insurance for the future. It's also good for Subaru owners in general as SoA uses the info to spot trends.

    Though I doubt a dealer would hold a contact with SoA against a customer, if it were true, I'd want SoA to know about that questionable dealer practice.

    Since she won't listen to her dad * , tell her the Subaru sages suggest that she open a case with SoA.

    ..Mike

    * I don't listen to anything my dad says either. So he's got a few years on me and infinitely more wisdom -- how could I possibly benefit from that? ;)

    ..Mike

  • mouse409mouse409 Member Posts: 34
    Just got a new PC and do not have it figured out yet! The car is a Sapphire Blue 2001 pretty much the base model, With a 5spd, it only now has 580 hi on it. It is my first Subaru, my first AWD. It is replacing a 93 Escort wagon which did give us very good service, and excellent mileage. So far the car has been very good. I look forward to better driving in our Central NY winters, last year we got 195" of snow. We also have a 99 Cougar and a 79 Dodge Magnum
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Member Posts: 640
    Just got in for the first time, just now, 1:22 p.m. CDT.

    Jim
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Just got in myself... No one around? Like a ghost town.

    -mike
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Member Posts: 640
    I also mean that I couldn't access the page until now. I even went in the long way from the main Edmunds page, and no discussions would work. Just wondering.

    Jim
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I think their server crashed.

    -mike
  • drew_drew_ Member Posts: 3,382
    No the server didn't crash. There was a problem with the uplink provider in Web Crossing's area, so Town Hall wasn't the only site that was affected. Apologies for any inconvenience.


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  • Karen_SKaren_S Member Posts: 5,092
    Oh, Drew, let's get technical, shall we?

    The bobbledingle in the crannycleft went kaput and it took most of the day to find a replacement at Walmart.

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    A-ha, that's it. I thought it was the Code Red worm.

    I'm sure it'll pick up soon.

    -juice
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    This site better not be running on IIS! Therefore CodeRed is no problem at all...

    -Colin
  • drew_drew_ Member Posts: 3,382
    Karen, can't get more technical than that ;-)

    Colin, uh I don't think it is, heh heh.


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  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Member Posts: 640
    Did I miss Patti's reply to our production numbers question? I saw where she mentioned it was going to take longer than she thought, but then I may have missed a few posts here and there.

    Jim
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    No answer yet. Hopefully soon.

    -mike
  • pattim3pattim3 Member Posts: 533
    I haven't been posting and responding. I have a nasty illness/flu?? and reading is very difficult. Hopefully, the medicine will work by tomorrow and I'll be back.

    I apologize - but sleep seems to be the remedy (durg induced)? I'll be back in a day or so.

    Sorry for it the inconvenenience.

    Patti
  • yellowbikedonyellowbikedon Member Posts: 228
    Get well soon. Sleep can be a wonderful remedy. But, stay away from "durgs." They really don't help!

    Don
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Get well Patti!!

    Not exactly a bumper crop of new SUVs...

    http://www.autonews.com/html/main/stories0730/bumper731.htm

    Bob
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  • drew_drew_ Member Posts: 3,382
    Bob, it's so that the screen width doesn't get skewed by long URLs. Next simply add a line under each URL and it should work. Or, add a "br" tag (replace the quotation marks with < and >) after each URL.


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  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Bumper Schmumper!

    They totally lost all respect from me, cause they said that the fact that all Envoy/Trailblazers come with a hitch and that the hitch protected it, they invalidated their own test results and rated it poor anyway. Either their test works or doesn't work, you can't use the test for some things and not others! ARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!

    -mike
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Member Posts: 640
    Paisan, and you were more diplomatic than I would have been.

    Patti, as far as I'm concerned, you really need not "apologize for any inconvenience" when you're not feeling well. I hope you feel better soon, this is really inconvenient :-).

    Jim
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    for my diplomatic posts. Usually it's like a bull in a china shop for me.

    -mike
  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246

    ..Mike

  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    My new issue of Automobile magazine arrived yesterday, and in it there were a number of interesting articles, one of which was on a 1901 Ford racer called the "Sweepstakes," which Ford just built a replica of to celebrate its 100 year anniversary of this vehicle.

    Some of the specs are:

    &#149; It had a 539 cu in (8830 cc) TWIN cylinder boxer engine! Think of it as an early mutant BMW motorcycle engine. ;)

    &#149; It put out 26 hp @ 900 rpm.

    &#149; Each piston weighed 35 pounds, and the flywheel weighed 300 pounds.

    &#149; Top speed was estimated to be about 72 mph.

    &#149; It weighed 2200 pounds.

    &#149; Pounds per horsepower = 84.6.

    &#149; The vehicle was mid-engined (surprisingly modern!)

    &#149; The original racer had to be towed behind some horses to get it started. The replica was towed behind a Ford F-250 to get it started.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I have to disagree with that IIHS data (what, am I joining paisan's camp?). I'm sure the Aztec would look far better after a collision than it would before! ;-)

    A dozen Subies? We've only got 3! Now get that Blitzen and a roadster over here and we'll fix that.

    Bob: yeah, but it was recalled because the wheels were falling off, though Ford blamed the problem on faulty Firestone tires. ;-)

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    They didn't test the all new Exploder 2002, I wonder why? I guess Ford made their donation to the IIHS....

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    If the vehicle comes standard with a rear trailer hitch, I agree that should considered as to part of the rear end protection. After all, what really is being discussed is rear end protection, regardless as to whether a bumper or hitch does the protecting.

    Having said that, the trailer hitch is a relatively small fixture, centered on the rear of the vehicle. If that vehicle is rear ended off-center&#151;and misses the hitch altogether, then the bumper DOES take the hit.

    I always keep my trailer hitch attached to the vehicle just for that very reason. It has protected me at least twice. It's also caused some very painfully banged shins. :(

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    will be tested at some point. Same with the new Liberty, which I'm sure will do poorly because of the rear-mounted spare.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Bob - but then their tests should be redesigned to show representative scenarios like yours.

    It's funny, because their crash tests are done at an offset angle, but the bumper tests are done straight on.

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    It's not a perfect test, but then again, what is? Every car crash test out there has its critics.

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    If they are going to make an exception to their bumper test by saying that the hitch protects and therefore they can rate it poorly, even though it aced their test, then their test is not good, and shows how poorly their test are in general. It's like setting the bar and then as the guy goes to jump through it, you make it a moving target, but only for 1 out of 7 competitors. :)

    Just get the hitch with matt's rear bumper protector system like I have and you won't have to worry about it, even on the edges :)

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I'm just saying, you gave a perfect reason for them to try the tests at an angle instead of head on.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    They should do that, and they should also open car doors into other car doors and see how much damage is done, and take an SUV and run it over a honda, then force a recall on the honda, because it's bumpers are too low! :)

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I think your Trooper could safely drive over my Miata and completely clear it without touching anything at all. So they're both safe and pass the test, right?

    ;-)

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    They should revise the testing.

    I think the reason they do it straight on for rear end collisions, is that is often the case. I think offset rear end collisions are less likely to occur than offset front end collisions.

    But I agree, I think they should do both types of tests, straight on and offset. Of course that will double the cost of testing, in that they would have to purchase two vehicles instead of one, so it probably won't happen.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They already have to test them twice - for flat barrier and pole tests.

    But bumper bashers should test at an offset because you back out of parking spots at an angle almost all the time.

    Having said that, Forester did well straight on, and I can attest to it doing well at an offset, too. I had minimal damage compared to that Saturn.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I don't understand the point of their test though. Is it for parking lot type accidents? with non-moving objects? Or is it 2 moving vehicles? If it's 2 moving vehicles, then there should be the same # of rear off-set as front off-set collisions.

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    and that's all it is, is that they're more concerned about being rear-ended on the highway, because the greater speed usually means more $$ damage. When that happens, it's more likely to be straight on, rather than offset.

    And, as everyone one here agrees, if a trailer hitch comes standard and offers some degree of extra protection, then it should be applauded, not discarded.

    Bob
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