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  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    When it drops down does it just flop down or is it pushed down? In other words, could it just rest on top of the high if in place when it drops down? Also you wouldn't drop down the rear and drive around with a trailer on your vehicle, or you'd crunch the tailgate, so I don't see that as an issue.

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    << When it drops down does it just flop down or is it pushed down? In other words, could it just rest on top of the high if in place when it drops down? >>

    Not sure, but I don't think so.

    << Also you wouldn't drop down the rear and drive around with a trailer on your vehicle, or you'd crunch the tailgate, so I don't see that as an issue. >>

    I see your point, but you still should be able to drop the tailgate if you need to, even with a trailer hooked up. I don't think you can do that with the way it is now.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    For $700 I'd still wait and get a 2003. But I doubt it'll increase that much. My guess is $300 or so.

    They had bikes in the bed, so they did not even close the tail gate. That meant we could not see how the license plate gets lowered.

    I had the same thought you had, paisan, about not needing the bed to open when you tow. Maybe it's not a big deal, but they said they were working on it still.

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    virtually every image I've seen, is with the Baja having the tailgate down, and using that bed extender. The bed is very short, as we all know, so if you have to trailer with the tailgate closed, you won't be able to carry much in the bed. You wouldn't be able to put bikes in there, that's for sure.

    Bob
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    while I'm still aching for a Blitzen, the '03 sounds like a promising direction.

    -Brian
  • lucien2lucien2 Posts: 2,984
    ...like they're getting us ready for a B4. Just so long as they're not getting us ready for no more manual in Legacy sport models at the same time.....
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    This is a problem that is unique to the Baja, as it is the only pickup that has a swing-down rear license plate. My understanding is this is done for legal reasons; the license plate must be visible at all times.

    Not being an engineer, I don't know if there is an alternate (easy) solution, other than re-thinking the placement of the rear license plate. If it were mounted on the rear bumper, like other pickups, it wouldn't be problem, but that requires a major redesign.

    Maybe (hopefully) Subaru will offer a drop-down, "U-shaped" hitch that will circumvent the lowered license?

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Probably does not need to be visible if there is a trailer attached.

    A U-shaped hitch would be a big mistake. It would cost a lot more than the $10 straight tube you can buy at any Walmart.

    I'll bet that the plate doesn't swing down but rather just falls down as you lower the tailgate, if that is the case, it can rest on the hitch w/o a problem.

    -mike
  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    juice & Bob,

    Nice scoop on the NY Auto Show! I was very excited to hear that Subaru finally decided to do a little more for the Legacy GT! I'd love to see that sport-shift in person. Any hints of a bigger powerplant in the near future?

    Ken
  • chief1989chief1989 Posts: 19
    What do you want to bet! My prediction is a B-4 in 2004. You heard it hear first folks.

    Chief
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I'll be shooting a ton of pics tonight so look for links tomorrow.

    -mike
  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    Hmmm I wonder if that will translate to the WRX slushbox?

    -Dave
  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    Dave,

    Outside of the US, the auto-WRXes have the sport-shift. It just may be a matter of time.

    Ken
  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    Ken-
    Was hoping the "matter of time" would come, say, MY2003 :D

    I'm leaning towards being daring and go for the Midnight Black wagon.

    -Dave
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    the '03 WRX automatic also gets the Sport-Shift.

    Bob
  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    So, did you guys see any literature on the 2003 models? I checked Subaru's News Room but didn't see any formal announcement on the 2003 model changes yet.

    Ken
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    I believe the '03 Legacy GT wagon did have leather. I remember you and I commenting about it still lacking map pockets on the back of the front seats, and as I recall, the seat backs were shinny, as in leather or vinyl. If they were cloth seats, I would think that would also be cloth.

    Still don't remember as to whether it got the All-Weather Package though. Paisan et al, can you guys remember to check?

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    teaser brochures on the Forester and Baja.

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Hmm, if they would just offer an H6 I might pick that up once the Trooper is paid off, maybe it'll have to be the blitzen though.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The teaser brochures didn't really have anything that we didn't already know. No prices yet, either. We spoke with two fairly knowledgeable guys on the stand, both dealers I believe, and they even showed us the complete list of changes.

    I think Bob is right - I'm leaning towards the GT having heated leather, actually. If so, that could be my wife's next car. Leather and AWP were all that were missing from the wagon. And it did not say "Limited", it was a 2.5 GT.

    The shiftronic was cool. The lever went straight back, unlike the jagged pattern on the current autos. Then you could push it to the right, where you could tap it forward or back to shift. This is much better than the side-to-side tapping on the Chrysler Autostick, for instance. No buttons on the wheels, IIRC, though. Still, one of the better designs.

    Given the auto WRX already has VTD, I bet it's very likely the next to get shiftronic. That would be a big plus.

    I'm with paisan - GT H6 shiftronic and I'd probably buy it. I know it's not a manual, but still, that would be close enough. I've come to realize no car is perfect.

    (finally, the whole Crew takes a sigh of relief!)

    -juice
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    was it still a 4 speed AT or (gulp) a 5 sp? I too checked the subaru site for info and couldn't find anything.

    I did say a while back that they should give the Legacy "at least the VTD". Maybe I should have said "at least the Blitzen motor". ;)

    My wife could care less about the Legacy having the new tranny. Before our Outback, I really wanted a Legacy GT Limited sedan (only one available with moonroof). But, she didn't like the looks of it. And she (we) wanted something that could haul Brooke (and her stuff) around, so we got the OB. I'm trying to propose to her that we ditch her Saturn for the '03 2.5 GT and hold out for the SUW in '04. She'd get the OB, I'd get the GT.

    I'll wait for more info to surface. And pictures!

    -Brian
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Brian: you gotta ask for more, buddy! It worked last time! ;-)

    4 speed, for now. I hope a 5 speed is on the way.

    paisan ought to get plenty of pics.

    -juice
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    juice,


    Did the Shiftronic look like this:


    http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/img/t_photo_01.gif


    That's the one offered in Japan for the WRX.


    Hmmm. A Legacy GT with the sport shift and H6 would be hard to resist. I'm thinking of getting another Subie maybe next year and I'm debating between going for all-out-fun and getting the WRX wagon or try and balance some fun with more room and go for a Legacy GT 6 or Turbo.


    What would you guys do?


    Ken

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Well, reverse it. The manual section was on the right side. Thanks for the photo, BTW.

    Also, it didn't have that steering wheel, or at least I don't think so (again, paisan, buddy, help us out!).

    The power was disconnected so I did not see the gear display.

    -juice
  • odd1odd1 Posts: 227
    I'm an inner-looper and recent transplant who goes home to Austin frequently. When I see that dealership on the I10 parking lot I know I'm half way to Austin, time wise. I don't own I Subaru yet. Trying to talk wife into giving up the mini van(my car) for a Forester. I don't care for the van in Houston traffic both size-wise and in gas consumption. We did grad school here. So, the all wheel drive and clearance appeal to me for those torrential downpours and flooded streets.

    I haven't been on the I club boards. The people on this board(and Patti) have me sold on Subaru already.

    I just wish there was something Subaru bigger than the Forester that wasn't a wagon. The wife says NO WAGONS, but she is willing to accept the Forester; go figure.

    I will be going to the Houston Auto Show next week sometime. I hope the '03 Forester will be there.
  • breldbreld Posts: 4,406
    Will everyone please stop saying that a tiptronic auto is "close enough" and that they'll be happy with that? I don't want SOA to catch wind of such comments!

    It may be good enough for someone like Juice who has the Miata alternative in the garage, but for those of us who want sportiness and practicality in one vehicle, we need the manual! :)

    SOA - bring on a higher powered Legacy (be it H6 or turbo) with a manual, and I'll be returning to the Subaru family (and if you can do it before my Subaru card points expire, all the better!).

    2018 Audi Q7 - 2018 Audi A5 - 2017 Miata RF

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    OK I'll stop. I prefer a proper manual myself! :-)

    -juice
  • fandcfandc MinnesotaPosts: 51
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    that's the dark blue I saw on the com.jp site a while back. vroom!

    -Brian
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