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The bottom cushion as well as the seat back was divided so you lifted either side and folded the cushion, viola flat floor and still room for three.
Cheers Pat.
I think if Subaru can officially "attach" the Porsche name and/or image to their cars, that's great—as long as they don't also attach the Porsche price tag.
Bob
http://www.veh-tech.net/
-mike
-Colin
Bob
Full Stories for November 16
..Mike
..Mike
Boy, can you imagine the impact that will have as an "image-maker" for Subaru!
Bob
-mike
Bob
-mike
In any event, Porsche has for years done work with other car companies, Subaru being one.
Bob
Jim
As you may, or may not, be aware; VW is going to market a super-sportscar shortly. It will have either the W-8 or W12 engine. This car will be marketed directly against the Porsche 911. Surely Porsche can't be too happy with that thought.
If this Porsche/Subaru venture works out, Porsche may be thinking of marketing another brand along side Porsches in their showroom—if the current VW alliance goes south. Having a Porsche-influnced Subaru would offer a more "mainstream" (but still sporting) model on their showroom floor for those who prefer a sedan or wagon.
But wait you say, what about Audi? Good point, but remember Audi—even more so than Porsche—is closely aligned with VW. If VW does market that hyper-sports car, Porsche may want to end their relationship with both VW and Audi. It's unlikely, but it could happen.
If that does happen, they would have Subaru as a backup showroom model. Hmmm... sounds like a good plot for the next "Survivor" series... Think of all the alliances and cat-fights that this could produce...
The question is, how does GM fit into this, if at all?
Since this news broke just yesterday, my sense is that we won't really see much of this collaboration until the Legacy is redesigned for the '05 model year. Porsche could have quite an impact on the design of that new model. Anybody remember the Shelby Mustang? I wonder if we could end up with a Porsche-Subaru somewhat along the lines of a Shelby Mustang?
It's interesting food for thought...
Bob
Any how, VW is going after Mercedes Benz. Piech got peeved when the A-class went after the Golf's market, so this is payback. VW goes luxury. W8 is just a start, then D1, supercar, etc.
Audi will remain sporty and attack BMW. There was even talk of splitting Audi from VW, but I doubt they will.
Porsche did suspension work for some of the limited edition WRXs. I can imagine their input in a coupe version, perhaps, and calling it the SVX, would make marketing sense. Me like!
But they didn't touch the engines. That means Subaru still has to come up with a suitable engine for the Legacy, if Porsche has input into that platform. Please, baby, that's my next car if they do.
Subaru is making a big deal about the Momo steering wheel and BBS wheels, so it follows that Porsche's input would be welcome.
-juice
This will boost the Subaru name brand...in terms of qulaity.......
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At least it will mitigate the notoriety of partnering with GM.
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It would be great if Subaru cut GM loose....
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The moment GM starts messing with Subaru product directly.......as it does with isuzu, suzuki, ford with mazda....Subaru will be doomed ! I will stop buying subies at that point.
1. FOr the first time, CR officially listed Outback in the SUV list. BOth limited & VDC are listed separately
2. What's that they always say that Subaru emergency handliing is tricky ? I believe that's why it has not been ranked as highly as it used to be.
3. Both OB & VDC are given higher than avg. relaiability....if you all remember,...when the comparison was made with highlander, randevous...they gave VDC avg reliability.
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WRX listed as No.1 Sports car ? Did you all see it......it says WRX is excellent !
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Though OB, VDC are listed in the 3rd, 4th position.....they are given excellent rating....
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Still CR is in love with VW Passat. I get a feeling that are getting emotional these days about passat.
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If subaru comes up with new LEGACY [non-permissible content removed]-kicking model ! It will capture the market big time !
I hope the new legacy is bigger than the current one.
-mike
Dr. Porsche designed the original VW for Hitler back in the 1930s. "Volkswagen" was known as the "people's car." The original "Porsche" cars were little more than modified VWs, which eventually evolved into the 911. So the ties between VW and Porsche are almost like "family" if you will. Still, I think the current Porsche company is totally separate from VW, unlike Audi, which is under the VW umbrella.
Bob
Matt
You're right about the name Colorado and VW.
Bob
Reliability rules the car world for me, and this makes the OB an option for me again, next year when I car-shop again, whoohoo!
--Bart
Bob
http://www.auto.com/industry/iwirx17_20011117.htm
Chevy "heritage concept": Hope it's better than that drop-top '50 Chevy pickup-inspired thing.
Insightful comment on the Malibu v. Camry. GM really needs to improve its bread-and-butter lineup - in appearance, content and quality - so that others besides rental agencies will buy them. Can anyone remember when the Cavalier/Sunfire were last redesigned? I can't.
Best line of the piece: "But Fuji is jealous of its technology and wants to make sure it's used right." You go, Subaru.
Ed
Sounds like FHI isn't going to be such an easy mark for GM to exploit!
-Frank P.
-Frank P.
Ed
-mike
its been nearly two weeks since you posted that teaser about new info for the above models. Any news??
Stephen
"..if anyone doubts the legitimacy of AWD, they should drive the 200-horsepower-plus European version of the Subaru WRX.."
Dennis
Bob
Stephen
Stephen (in Seattle)
Bob
Bob
I'm waiting on information and have been assured I will get it "early" to provide you folks information. Just nothing yet.
Patti
FHI made 133 million profit first half, helped by strong US auto sales. Should be enough money there to Federalize the GTB wagon!
Dennis
The current VW corporation has nothing to do with what may have happened in WW II. I hope you're not suggesting that VW owes reparations for whatever happened in WW II. To suggest that, is like suggesting that your ancestors may have had something to do with slavery here in the United States. Should you (or VW) be punished (or pay money) for something that your forefathers may have participated in, or supported? I think not.
Geez... I never thought that I would be discussing this on Thanksgiving, of all days...
Bob
If these are examples of how we might expect Porsche to "massage" the current lineup, I'm all for it!
Bob
Since I am leisurely shopping for a car, maybe I should wait for a Porche/Subaru joint venture, sounds like a winner.
-mike
As I had mentioned earlier, the VW was designed for Hitler by Dr. Porsche in the 1930s. The first car to wear the "Porsche" label appeared in, I think(?), 1949. It was based on a modified VW platform. So yes, the ties between VW and Porsche are long and deep.
Bob
Bob
-mike