Hyundai Santa Fe 2007+

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  • gizzer777gizzer777 Member Posts: 335
    it is pretty well hidden and I believe the capacity is 3500 lbs...

    Dr. Doug had to tell me where to look since the manual is wrong. If you have the touring pkg, the wiring is on the driver's side behind the rear tire well...it is some funky looking pair of connectors. Also your factory window sticker should have noted it. As of now, hyundai has not made a connector to attach to them to convert them to normal
  • slateblueslateblue Member Posts: 110
    Towing capacity for the 3.3 V6 without the trailer package is 2000 lbs. With the trailer package it is 3500 lbs if the trailer is equiped with brakes, without trailer brakes it is 1650 lbs. Capacity for the 2.7 V6 is 2800 lbs if the trailer has brakes and 1650 lbs without trailer brakes. There are limitations of 350 lb tongue weight on the 3.3 and 280 lb tongue wwight on the 2.7(all with the trailer package). Tongue weight on the 1650 lb limit is 165 lbs. for both engines.
  • gizzer777gizzer777 Member Posts: 335
    Update:

    BEWARE: Just spoke with Hyundai AGAIN about the Trailer harness issue and asked about after market hookups....The rep said any after market hookup WOULD void the electrical warranty!!!.

    On a more positive note, she did say that a kit was in the works to make the map lights come on when opening the doors etc on the earlier builds.
  • gizzer777gizzer777 Member Posts: 335
    Thanks for the update Slateblue....you are correct of course and I neglected to put those caveats in my post (I have the pkg). Of course hooking up to trailer brakes at this point in time is moot until they come out with their harness if ever!
  • davesuvdavesuv Member Posts: 149
    Very interesting. My factory window sticker makes no mention of any pre-wiring. I've very carefully examined all around the rear of my Santa Fe (crawling around under the car with a flashlight and feeling up into every space) and there is no wiring harness or connectors.

    My factory window sticker says:
    *Touring Package includes:
    7 passenger seating with third row
    3rd row auxiliary climate control

    Nothing else with the Touring package. Mine was built about the end of August or beginning of September based on the serial number.

    2007 SF AWD Limited with Touring and Premium packages
    Dark Cherry Red with beige leather interior
  • gizzer777gizzer777 Member Posts: 335
    .Interesting and confusing

    BTW: your build date should be on a label on the driver's side door pillar

    MY WINDOW STICKER SAYS:

    "touring Pkg includes"
    7 passenger seating w/ 50/50 split folding 3rd row
    3rd row climate control"

    THEN directly underneath...

    TRAILER PREP PKG!
    Trans cooler
    Upgraded radiator
    Upgraded radiator fans
    Trailer pre Wiring.
    $1300
    (Which is the full price on my touring pkg including your items and mine!
    BTW: I have an 07 Santa Fe SE AWD usa model build date is oct 06.
    I wonder if they added that stuff after yours was produced...

    What makes it confusing is that before each "optional" heading is an asterisk.

    The trailer prep pkg has no asterisk!VERY confusing for a change :confuse:
  • davesuvdavesuv Member Posts: 149
    My build date was 8/1/06. The trailer prep package is not mentioned on the window sticker. The price listed for the Touring Package is $1200. For an extra $100, that trailer prep package sounds like a great deal, regardless of the non-standard end on the wiring harness.

    They must not have had the trailer prep package available when they first started building the Touring package. Oh well, I'm just using my hitch for a bike rack anyway, so it's not a big deal. I'll probably add the aftermarket wiring kit (seems really easy to install) just in case I want to pull a U-haul or something. Thanks for the info.

    2007 Santa Fe AWD Limited with Touring and Premium packages
    Dark Cherry Red with beige leather interior
  • skagwaypilotskagwaypilot Member Posts: 18
    Gizzer77 said:
    "On a more positive note, she did say that a kit was in the works to make the map lights come on when opening the doors etc on the earlier builds."


    My call to Hyundai Customer Affairs on March 23 resulted in a different answer. The representative excused herself for a minute when asked about a wiring update. When she returned, she stated that the lack of lighting in the front when the door was opened was a 'feature' :confuse: of our model of the SF. When I commented that a feature should be an attribute, she then stated that the lighting was working as designed and there were no plans to offer any retrofits to present SF's. :(
  • gizzer777gizzer777 Member Posts: 335
    Sounds like the ole run around for both of us. I do not like it but can live with it...the Hitch wiring is a different story.
    How someone could claim the lack of front lighting is a feature is beyond me....
  • dr_dougdr_doug Member Posts: 9
    Hey Dave,
    I see from follow-up postings that your SF was apparently built before they added the towing stuff to the touring package. Mine was manufactured Jan. 2007, but I actually started shopping for one late October of last year. At that time, the towing add-ons were already part of the touring package in the sales brochures. I'm wondering if they added them at the same time they started putting the XM radios in as standard equipment. That happened sometime in October.
  • 4pmg4pmg Member Posts: 12
    I took my new Santa Fe (4 weeks old & 800 miles) in for service, while I was out of town this weekend. I honestly have to say I was shocked to see the work that was completed when I picked up the car. The Santa Fe was in to have the front passanger interior door handle replaced. I have a Limited with a black leather interior. When I returned for my car I found the part was replaced with a part for a grey interior! It is almost as if no one noticed. It's as if a blind person replaced the part. Imagine not noticing the difference between black and grey. The door lock needs to be replaced in conjunction with the door handle. No one, again no one, noticed the difference and I waited 4 weeks for this part to arrive. Are all service visits this disapointing? Having traded a 2 year old Audi A4 for the Santa Fe, I can honestly say I would never, never have had this type of shotty work performed by Audi. Are my expactations to high of Hyundai?

    On another note the service director knew nothing about the map light fix. In fact, he himself complained that he thought his demo Santa Fe was very dark inside at night. I explained to him that a fix is in the works. He knew nothing of it.

    While I have confirmation from Corporate Hyundai that this will be fixed in earlier generation Santa fe's, if the owner has filed a claim with Hyundai...it makes you wonder if the dealer network is really kept informed or we the consumers know more and educate them.

    Even though I am upset about this service vist I still love the car. While I was away I drove an 06 Mercury Montego Premier AWD...I couldn't wait to get off the plane and get into my Santa Fe! Now if I can only get good service I'd be completely happy.
  • brookevillebrookeville Member Posts: 8
    Folks: I'm getting very close to purchasing 2007 SE AWD Santa Fe. Can anyone with 2007 SE or Limited who has had their SF for a few months or more and done good amt of highway driving comment on road noise or harsh ride. Seems to be some conflicting opinions on this road noise and harsh ride issue. I test drove the base model GLS with 16 inch wheels (and smaller engine)and thought it had just a bit much body lean in turns. During the work week I do more highway driving and high road noise would bother me! Any responses from experience appreciated!
  • serenoa1serenoa1 Member Posts: 7
    I know what you're saying. I now have a 2007 FWD Limited and do notice the road tire noise more than the harsh ride. However, it isn't nearly as bad as Lexus. I have a 2000 Lexus RX300 and a 2004 RX330. The 300 has 16" tires and is fairly quiet, but the 330 has 18" Goodyear Eagles and is much noisier than the SF. In fact, I have been known to say I hate those tires. They say Michelins and Bridgestones are much quieter. I think this is a price you pay for the better handling of 18" tires and most mfrs are going to them. Your tire wear will also be about 30% less judging by my experience. I got 52K on the 300 and it looks like maybe 35K on the 330.
  • davesuvdavesuv Member Posts: 149
    Hi Brookeville,

    I've had my 2007 Santa Fe AWD Limited for 6 months now. In my opinion, my Santa Fe is one of the quieter and smoothest riding cars of the ones I've owned. Only our Lexus RX350 tops it, and not by much. Noise and ride quality are very important to me, and my Santa Fe has not disappointed me. I've read several posts about road noise. I agree that this is very tire dependent. Only certain road surfaces produce any noise with the Santa Fe Bridgestone Dueler H/T D684 tires and this has never been objectionable (or even to the point where you'd notice unless you were listening for it). These tires are rated middle of the road for noise (5.8 out of 10 at TireRack site).

    What really surprised me about my Santa Fe is how much fun it is to drive. I'm not really a car person, usually just relying on them to get me from point A to point B as safely as possible. Every time I get in my Santa Fe, I find myself saying "I love this car!". Something about the combination of steering, smooth ride, ample acceleration, tight turning radius, driving position, etc. just gives this car a personality that none of my previous cars could claim. I also really like the way it looks, both inside and out. My Santa Fe pictures

    Good luck with your Santa Fe purchase. I hope you like yours as much as I love mine!

    2007 Santa Fe AWD Limited with Touring and Premium packages
    Dark Cherry Red with beige leather interior
  • edmac1edmac1 Member Posts: 36
    Hyundai has made a lot of progress in their quest to turn out high-quality vehicles. My new SF is excellent. However, their dealers are a different matter. I have read numerous complaints on these forums about problems that new owners are having with their dealers, who either don't know a lot of things they should know, or don't care. I took my 07 back to the dealer twice because it was drifting or wandering slightly to the right. The first time they gave it back to me and said they had fixed the problem by adjusting the front tire presssure. Of course this didn't fix anything, so I took it back. This time they did a front-end alignment. This didn't fix the problem either. Then I discovered a section in the service manual (hmaservice.com) entitled "Checking for pull and wander" which described the recommended procedure to correct this problem. I took my vehicle to my own mechanic who switched the two front tires. Problem solved. I have read comments from others about experiences with dealers who don't know what is in their own service manuals. On both visits to the dealer I asked them to activate the automatic door lock. The first time I was told that their mechanic who was trained to do this (it's a very simple procedure) was on vacation. The second time I got the runaround that others have reported, namely to wait until the first regular maintenance visit. Since this visit is not called for until 7500 miles, this could be six months for a lot of people, which longer that a person should have to wait. Someone on one of these forums reported that dealers have been instructed by Hyundai to ask new customers if they want the auto door lock turned on so that it can be part of the new-delivery prep, but most dealers apparently don't want to be bothered. Of course Hyundai is not the only manufacturer suffering from incompetent or indifferent dealers but I think this problem could be hindering them in their goal to catch up to Honda, Toyota, etc.
  • edmac1edmac1 Member Posts: 36
    My experience with my 07 SF SE FWD is opposite. The 18" Bridgestones seem to give a somewhat harsher ride than I am used to, but it is otherwise smooth and quiet at high speed.
  • skagwaypilotskagwaypilot Member Posts: 18
    4pmg wrote:
    While I have confirmation from Corporate Hyundai that this will be fixed in earlier generation Santa fe's, if the owner has filed a claim with Hyundai...it makes you wonder if the dealer network is really kept informed or we the consumers know more and educate them.
    Can you tell me who told this to you? As I noted in my previous post, I was advised by Hyundai Consumer Affairs on March 23 that there are no plans to retrofit early SF's with the map light fix. Should I insist that they accept a claim?
  • mleone7mleone7 Member Posts: 7
    In response to skagwaypilot, I have also been working with a Hyundai Consumer Affairs rep and filed a claim. He told me today that Hyundai has no plans to fix the map light/door issue on earlier models. He said it would be up to my dealer to do it, and if they did it, the mod would be considered "out of warranty." Hyundai's official word on this was "It's a rolling fix, and if you have an older vehicle without the feature, Hyundai will not have it fixed for you." Someone smarter than me will mod this soon enough. Maybe the wiring for the dome light runs through the map light area. I'll have to check.

    In other bad news, he also told me the trailer wiring harness would not be available for separate purchase from the hitch, which means you either pay for Hyundai's overpriced tow package, or you go elsewhere and the "pre-wiring" as of this date is totally useless. Again, he said any after-market mod I do with the wiring (IE Hidden Hitch plug-in harness) brings the warranty out of compliance. So I guess if you have one of these, and you develop electrical issues, take it off before you bring your truck in for service.

    Then to top it off, he told me at this point, there was no plans to fix the hiss in the Infinity Stereo system.

    It wasn't a banner day for Hyundai Consumer Affairs. I've owned 3 Santa Fe's, and while none of these issues with the 2007 are by any means serious nor do they make me regret my purchase, just the fact that I hit brick walls with all of them makes me wonder what will happen if there is a serious problem. The worst of the 3 for me is the stereo hiss. I hope they figure it out.
  • gizzer777gizzer777 Member Posts: 335
    Had a feeling they might pull that with the wiring harness and Hitch as a Pkg only. If true, I can live with the light issue

    Remember if you use a 3rd party wiring harness and have an electrical problem. They must prove that the 3rd party part caused it per the Moss magnessun act. Sounds like hyundai needs a class action suit to get them straightened out

    It is not the vehicle but hyundai's manner in dealing that I object to. I think This will be my 1st and last auto from them.
    To make it worse, you just cannot get the same answer from any 2 reps out there. Hyundai seems to think they can now get away with this stuff...they will lose out pretty quickly IMHO.
  • gizzer777gizzer777 Member Posts: 335
    Finally spoke with a manager at consumer affairs...The previous poster was correct. The Harness is/will be available but only as part of the entire pkg...hitch. ball cover harness etc...cost between $400-500...that is completely nuts
    Part# U8610-2B000.

    Hey with the price of gas going up...You will have to take on a second job to tow anything anyway

    CONFIRMATION:
    The above is the part # and it is only available as the entire kit...cost=$400...available if you want to shell out that kind of $ for a kit that should not cost over $200 complete!!! :mad:
  • nhskigirlnhskigirl Member Posts: 1
    The dinging is driving me crazy. I wear my seat belt, but not on short stints like to the bus stop, down my driveway etc...

    AAGGGHHHH!
  • bperotsbperots Member Posts: 8
    Statistics say most accidents occur less than 1 mile from your home, so be very careful. :sick: The ringing in your head will be worse than the seatbelt ring.
  • gogregogogrego Member Posts: 15
    Mine (Ltd w/touring+prem pkg) has the trailer wiring and it is listed on the sticker. The wiring/connectors are tucked up behind the left rear qtr panel. Laydown underneath the car and you'll see them. A supplemental owners manual called "XM Radio and Trailer Connector" came with the car which explains the XM radio and the last page (pg 31) explains the wiring. I called the dealer for the connecting harness and its not available (without getting the hitch ofcourse). So I ordered a Drawtite Modulite #118176 connector. Cheapest site I found was hitchshopusa.com in Florida for $27.23 plus $5.17 shipping to Calif. The Santa Fe trailer wiring has 2 separate connectors. One has +/- straight from the battery and the other has 4 pins for the lights. You have to buy a hitch connector that is powered from the battery! The Modulite I ordered should be exactly what I need. It also has short circuit protection. I already installed the drawtite Class III trailer hitch and it looks and works good. I bought it at etrailer.com for $121. Ball mount and locking pin is another 40 bucks. The hitch is real easy to install if you have a floor jack and a friend to help. It is heavy so you will need help holding it in while you put the bolts in. 4 bolts and torque them to 70 ft-lbs.
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    bperots,

    Statistics say most accidents occur less than 1 mile from your home ...

    The statistics don't have quite that resolution. The statement is that most accidents occur within 25 miles of home -- which should come as little surprise since almost all of your driving is within 25 miles of home. Trips further away are more dangerous typically because you're on unfamiliar turf.

    nhskigirl,

    Beware the dreaded interlock when disconnecting the seatbelt buzzer. It may cause other things not to function such as headlights, stereo, cruise control or something else which you may not discover until an inopportune moment.

    tidester, host
    SUVs and Smart Shopper
  • wjanerwjaner Member Posts: 25
    I really hoped to see some indepth analysis of the 07 Santa Fe. You would think that fuel eficiency would be utmost in the thoughts of the average Santa Fe driver. I first started the Hyundai program back in 1999. I went to a large So Calif Mercedez dealer armed with the invoice prices of the 300 series Mercedes and my check book. I have always been a Caddilac and mercedes driver as I was able to amortise the cost to my business. The mercedes dealer was arrogant to say the liest and he didn't bat an eye when I wanked out the door. By chance I stopped in a Hyundai dealership and I negotiated purchase on a 99 Elantra station wagon with a 5 year warranty. I could have purchased three 99 Elantras for the price they asked for the new Mercedes.
    To be continued
    Sparcap
  • wjanerwjaner Member Posts: 25
    This posting is a continuation--- re the 99 Elantra station wagon which was and still is a good car. The 99 Elantra has a 4 cyl engine which was a basic Mitsubihi design and it renders 44 miles per at 60 mpg. I enjoyed the transformation from the Stutgart aura and Detroit iron so much that I then bought a 2002 Santa Fe with the upgraded 4 Cylinder engine. Now the car weight went from 2800 lbs in the elantra to 3400 lbs in the Santa Fe and the milage dropped down to 32 mpg. By the year 2004 Hyundai had dropped the 4 cylinder replacing it with the 6 cyl engine in the Santa Fe and now the milage had dropped to 28 miles per gallon. Why has Hyundai allowed the economy in her vehicles to deteriorate? Is it Hyundai's fault? I think you all know the answer!
    To be continued.
    Sparcap
  • wjanerwjaner Member Posts: 25
    This posting is a continuation--- re the 99 Elantra station wagon which was and still is a good car. The 99 Elantra has a 4 cyl engine which was a basic Mitsubihi design and it renders 44 miles per at 60 mpg. I enjoyed the transformation from the Stutgart aura and Detroit iron so much that I then bought a 2002 Santa Fe with the upgraded 4 Cylinder engine. Now the car weight went from 2800 lbs in the elantra to 3400 lbs in the Santa Fe and the milage dropped down to 32 mpg. By the year 2004 Hyundai had dropped the 4 cylinder replacing it with the 6 cyl engine in the Santa Fe and now the milage had dropped to 28 miles per gallon. Why has Hyundai allowed the economy in her vehicles to deteriorate? Is it Hyundai's fault? I think you all know the answer!
    To be continued.
    Sparcap
  • dr_dougdr_doug Member Posts: 9
    What a coincidence. I was looking at that same modulite box last night thinking it would probably do the trick. There are several of us on this chain that would really be interested in the details of how it works out for you. Are you planning on cutting off the existing prewiring connectors and wiring the box in direct? Or have you found someplace to obtain the connectors for the existing harness?

    P.S. Thanks for the pointer to hitchshopusa.com, since their prices is about $20 less than etrailer.com's for this same box.
  • 4pmg4pmg Member Posts: 12
    Skagwaypilot:

    I spoke to the Director of Consumer Affairs, in Hyundai's Corporate office (I did not contact anyone at the Consumer Affairs call center). This is about as high up the food chain as I guess you can go. The day I spoke to the Director they had just come out of a meeting where this issue was addressed. I was assured my Santa fe would have the map light issue corrected. I was told it would take time for these parts to become available.

    I hope this helps. I would like to think the the Corporate Director of Consumer Affairs would know what they are talking about.
  • mleone7mleone7 Member Posts: 7
    Hi 4pmg,

    Do you have any additional contact information for the Director you spoke to? My Case Manager at Consumer Affairs keeps insisting that this issue will not be fixed for my vehicle and I would like the fix. Did the Director mention that this may come out as a TSB or do we need to push the right people?

    Thanks!
  • davesuvdavesuv Member Posts: 149
    I think you have the right idea about wiring up your Santa Fe. Unfortunately, the early 2007 Santa Fe's did not include the trailer prep package with the Touring Package. Mine was built on 8/1/06 and it definitely does NOT have the wiring harness, nor is the trailer prep package listed on the window sticker :( . As near as I can tell, the trailer package started showing up as part of the Touring package in early October, about the same time that the XM radio became available (I also don't have that). I guess it doesn't pay to be an early adopter.

    2007 Santa Fe AWD Limited with Touring and Premium packages
    Dark Cherry Red with beige leather interior
  • rockyteerockytee Member Posts: 35
    Do you know who makes the 3.3l engine in the new Santa Fe's. Is it still Mitsubishi and is it old technology?

    The 6 cyl engine in the Santa Fe and now the milage had dropped to 28 miles per gallon.
    Is this for the 3.5l engine?
  • davesuvdavesuv Member Posts: 149
    The aluminum 3.3 L V-6 Lambda engine is manufactured in Hyundai's Alabama plant at the same facility where the Sonatas and Santa Fe's are assembled. This is a new engine, introduced on the 2006 Sonata.
  • joe97joe97 Member Posts: 2,248
    As per above poster, the 3.3/3.8 Lambda engines are brand new, all-aluminum engines built in-house by Hyundai.

    I don't believe there are any relations with Mitsu on the 3.5L V6 Sigma engine which resided in the previous generation Santa Fes.

    There have been no Mitsu ties on Hyundai's mainstream models, for a long time now.
  • rockyteerockytee Member Posts: 35
    As per above poster, the 3.3/3.8 Lambda engines are brand new, all-aluminum engines built in-house by Hyundai.

    So the reliability of these Lambda engines remains to be seen? What about the 2.7 V6, are these a better bet as far as reliability?
  • joe97joe97 Member Posts: 2,248
    The Lambdas are capable and durable engines, you won't find any problems under normal operation for much much more than 100K miles.

    The 2.7L V6 is just as durable but I can't comment further since I haven't had much experience with such.

    Bottom line, Hyundai has a more than stellar record with its own engines, especially many recently introduced ones. Trust me, either engine would be the last thing to worry about for a long time.

    The other interesting tidbit about the Lambdas are its flexibility. In addition to the above capability and benefits, they can be tuned to as much as 300hp.
  • lv2drvlv2drv Member Posts: 132
    I just bought my SF Limited last week. I was reading through the owner's manual and one of the first things it mentions is the immobilizer. What is this???? And why is it there? I really love my SF!
  • davesuvdavesuv Member Posts: 149
    The immobilizer is available on the European version of the Santa Fe (built in Korea). It's just a special key with a transponder in its head. The car won't start unless that key is near the receiver. Hyundai must have considered using this system in the US version of the Santa Fe too, since they elected to put the info about it in the user manual.
  • edmac1edmac1 Member Posts: 36
    Joe97: I don't doubt what you are saying because you sound like you know what you're talking about, but I'm curious how you can be sure that the Lambdas will be so durable since they seem to be of fairly recent design - introduced in 06. I'm rooting for you to be right because I have an 07 SF with the 3.3L engine, which runs great but I can only speak for the first 4000 miles.

    P.S. where can I get one of those 300hp tune-up kits?
  • joe97joe97 Member Posts: 2,248
    Hyundai has claimed to have 300,000 miles (or KM) lifespan on these new Lambdas (don't quite recall which classification) - actually introduced in 05 for North American markets and even earlier in its home market. I was being conservative @ 100K - why? Because I am not a 100% believer, yet, only time will tell. I do believe, however, the fact Hyundai-built engines have showed good durability, for the most part, the current new engines are likely and will be better, and so far, that assessment has been holding up.

    Talking about new engines, Hyundai will soon debut a new V8 engine on a production car (has resided in concept versions a few times already) - Tau family (4.6L, 5.0L, 5.5L), with early speculations including superchargers and engine deactivation feature. Hyundai has not release much info to the public but look forward to seeing more in the upcoming months.

    I have a friend working fairly high up at Hyundai Motor America (HMA) corporate office. He's been feeding me some vital information, including the capability of the Lambdas. I don't know much more other than it has been internally tested and is possible. I will try to get more info out of him...
  • ddulddul Member Posts: 2
    For those of you that have been doing some serious towing with your SF. I am looking at buying and would appreciate some input on how it is really handling larger tows in the 3,000 - 3500 lb. range.
    And has anyone been able to get from the dealer the tow prep without the 3rd row seat? The touring package bundles it all together and I don't really want the 3rd seat - just the tow capability.
  • gogregogogrego Member Posts: 15
    So far I've only towed my quad (atv) with small trailer. Total weight with trailer is about 500#. The SF doesn't even know its there. It does tow it real nice on the beach and no problem at all getting through softsand. Beach? Yeah Pismo Beach California.

    Greg
    07 SF AWD Ltd w/option pkg 36.
  • gizzer777gizzer777 Member Posts: 335
    Suggest you d/l the manual from their site...trailer pkg comes with HD Fan, HD radiator, and trans cooler. who knows what else it has except a funky connector :mad: . Without those, I would not try HD towing w/ a SF...tires could also be an issue without the pkg...Just MHO...remember, this is a crossover...not a truck...BTW...I did not need the 3rd row seating either but wanted the ability to tow just in case.
    Do like the vehicle though
  • gwillygwilly Member Posts: 51
    I finally got the chance to return the phone call from Hyundai
    consumer affairs. I gave them my list and suffice to say the local dealer service person called me right away. The trailer harness and auto-lock feature will be taken care of in the form of "Hyundai dealer service credit" in that they do NOT give cash for your problems.

    I told them what the dealer wanted for the auto-lock feature to be turned on and what I paid for the T-one harness 118415 and the person "graciously" doubled the amount because they could authorize this themselves. I also was informed that this was a "one time credit" , it sure felt like the show "Deal or No Deal"

    I will use this for some oil changes, they wanted me to get accessories for this credit. The MPG issue was touched upon, however as others have spoken about the "BRICK WALL" was hit in this regard. They have a canned answer for any MPG issue, "we did not set the sticker values...the government did..blah...blah...blah"

    At the end of this conversation, I felt like I had been talking to a shrink, in that I had to feel good at the end.
    ........Yay
  • hooshoos Member Posts: 7
    I agree with davesuv. I have 5,400 miles on my FWD SF Limited that I took delivery of on New Years day. It has the Bridgestone Dueler H/T D684 tires, and the ride is smooth and quiet.
  • skagwaypilotskagwaypilot Member Posts: 18
    We have a 2007 Santa Fe Limited.
    There is a flashing red light on top of the instrument panel at the base of the windshield directly in front of the driver.
    The owner's handbook refers to a temperature sensing unit at that location. There is a similar device on the right side of the instrument panel but it does not have the light. My first guess is that the two sensors are a part of the dual zone automatic temperature control. But the flashing light has me puzzled. :confuse:
    Anybody know what the light is for? It flashes all the time, even when the car is not locked which makes me think that it is not part of the car alarm.
  • jimsistjimsist Member Posts: 62
    have a 2007 gls with premum pk it has the auto light control. the red light is the alarm control the other is the auto light censer.when cleaning the dash do not clean the sencers with anything but a dry cloth. it will do harm :D
  • gizzer777gizzer777 Member Posts: 335
    Yep...what he said...My flashing red (alarm) light goes solid (alarm is armed I guess) and stops flashing,when you lock the doors with the key fob....when not locked and the doors are closed without anyone inside , the red light flashes away.

    My SF is the Se model that also has the auto light control.
  • kmwilsonkmwilson Member Posts: 17
    I just purchased a 2007 SE with Ultimate Package AWD. I am still within a 5 day period where i can change my mind. My husband and I do not yet have children but will within the next 2 years. I am now thinking that maybe I should have looked at the 3rd row seating option a little more. Can anyone who has the 3rd row of seats and/or children tell if the 3rd row is worth the purchase. Will I regret not having more seats as our family grows? I plan on keeping the vehicle for a very long time so I want to make sure I have made the right purchase now.

    Thanks,
    Karen
  • rlrose313rlrose313 Member Posts: 2
    Hello,
    I have two twin 1 yr old girls and we have the 3rd row seat. Its really comfortable and roomy. Both my mom and I were able to fit in the 3rd row. My 6 ft brother also fit back there even though his head hit the top a little. I think it will be of more use when my girls have their little friends come with us places.

    I would definitely recommend getting it.
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