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Dr. Doug had to tell me where to look since the manual is wrong. If you have the touring pkg, the wiring is on the driver's side behind the rear tire well...it is some funky looking pair of connectors. Also your factory window sticker should have noted it. As of now, hyundai has not made a connector to attach to them to convert them to normal
BEWARE: Just spoke with Hyundai AGAIN about the Trailer harness issue and asked about after market hookups....The rep said any after market hookup WOULD void the electrical warranty!!!.
On a more positive note, she did say that a kit was in the works to make the map lights come on when opening the doors etc on the earlier builds.
My factory window sticker says:
*Touring Package includes:
7 passenger seating with third row
3rd row auxiliary climate control
Nothing else with the Touring package. Mine was built about the end of August or beginning of September based on the serial number.
2007 SF AWD Limited with Touring and Premium packages
Dark Cherry Red with beige leather interior
BTW: your build date should be on a label on the driver's side door pillar
MY WINDOW STICKER SAYS:
"touring Pkg includes"
7 passenger seating w/ 50/50 split folding 3rd row
3rd row climate control"
THEN directly underneath...
TRAILER PREP PKG!
Trans cooler
Upgraded radiator
Upgraded radiator fans
Trailer pre Wiring.
$1300 (Which is the full price on my touring pkg including your items and mine!
BTW: I have an 07 Santa Fe SE AWD usa model build date is oct 06.
I wonder if they added that stuff after yours was produced...
What makes it confusing is that before each "optional" heading is an asterisk.
The trailer prep pkg has no asterisk!VERY confusing for a change :confuse:
They must not have had the trailer prep package available when they first started building the Touring package. Oh well, I'm just using my hitch for a bike rack anyway, so it's not a big deal. I'll probably add the aftermarket wiring kit (seems really easy to install) just in case I want to pull a U-haul or something. Thanks for the info.
2007 Santa Fe AWD Limited with Touring and Premium packages
Dark Cherry Red with beige leather interior
"On a more positive note, she did say that a kit was in the works to make the map lights come on when opening the doors etc on the earlier builds."
My call to Hyundai Customer Affairs on March 23 resulted in a different answer. The representative excused herself for a minute when asked about a wiring update. When she returned, she stated that the lack of lighting in the front when the door was opened was a 'feature' :confuse: of our model of the SF. When I commented that a feature should be an attribute, she then stated that the lighting was working as designed and there were no plans to offer any retrofits to present SF's.
How someone could claim the lack of front lighting is a feature is beyond me....
I see from follow-up postings that your SF was apparently built before they added the towing stuff to the touring package. Mine was manufactured Jan. 2007, but I actually started shopping for one late October of last year. At that time, the towing add-ons were already part of the touring package in the sales brochures. I'm wondering if they added them at the same time they started putting the XM radios in as standard equipment. That happened sometime in October.
On another note the service director knew nothing about the map light fix. In fact, he himself complained that he thought his demo Santa Fe was very dark inside at night. I explained to him that a fix is in the works. He knew nothing of it.
While I have confirmation from Corporate Hyundai that this will be fixed in earlier generation Santa fe's, if the owner has filed a claim with Hyundai...it makes you wonder if the dealer network is really kept informed or we the consumers know more and educate them.
Even though I am upset about this service vist I still love the car. While I was away I drove an 06 Mercury Montego Premier AWD...I couldn't wait to get off the plane and get into my Santa Fe! Now if I can only get good service I'd be completely happy.
I've had my 2007 Santa Fe AWD Limited for 6 months now. In my opinion, my Santa Fe is one of the quieter and smoothest riding cars of the ones I've owned. Only our Lexus RX350 tops it, and not by much. Noise and ride quality are very important to me, and my Santa Fe has not disappointed me. I've read several posts about road noise. I agree that this is very tire dependent. Only certain road surfaces produce any noise with the Santa Fe Bridgestone Dueler H/T D684 tires and this has never been objectionable (or even to the point where you'd notice unless you were listening for it). These tires are rated middle of the road for noise (5.8 out of 10 at TireRack site).
What really surprised me about my Santa Fe is how much fun it is to drive. I'm not really a car person, usually just relying on them to get me from point A to point B as safely as possible. Every time I get in my Santa Fe, I find myself saying "I love this car!". Something about the combination of steering, smooth ride, ample acceleration, tight turning radius, driving position, etc. just gives this car a personality that none of my previous cars could claim. I also really like the way it looks, both inside and out. My Santa Fe pictures
Good luck with your Santa Fe purchase. I hope you like yours as much as I love mine!
2007 Santa Fe AWD Limited with Touring and Premium packages
Dark Cherry Red with beige leather interior
While I have confirmation from Corporate Hyundai that this will be fixed in earlier generation Santa fe's, if the owner has filed a claim with Hyundai...it makes you wonder if the dealer network is really kept informed or we the consumers know more and educate them.
Can you tell me who told this to you? As I noted in my previous post, I was advised by Hyundai Consumer Affairs on March 23 that there are no plans to retrofit early SF's with the map light fix. Should I insist that they accept a claim?
In other bad news, he also told me the trailer wiring harness would not be available for separate purchase from the hitch, which means you either pay for Hyundai's overpriced tow package, or you go elsewhere and the "pre-wiring" as of this date is totally useless. Again, he said any after-market mod I do with the wiring (IE Hidden Hitch plug-in harness) brings the warranty out of compliance. So I guess if you have one of these, and you develop electrical issues, take it off before you bring your truck in for service.
Then to top it off, he told me at this point, there was no plans to fix the hiss in the Infinity Stereo system.
It wasn't a banner day for Hyundai Consumer Affairs. I've owned 3 Santa Fe's, and while none of these issues with the 2007 are by any means serious nor do they make me regret my purchase, just the fact that I hit brick walls with all of them makes me wonder what will happen if there is a serious problem. The worst of the 3 for me is the stereo hiss. I hope they figure it out.
Remember if you use a 3rd party wiring harness and have an electrical problem. They must prove that the 3rd party part caused it per the Moss magnessun act. Sounds like hyundai needs a class action suit to get them straightened out
It is not the vehicle but hyundai's manner in dealing that I object to. I think This will be my 1st and last auto from them.
To make it worse, you just cannot get the same answer from any 2 reps out there. Hyundai seems to think they can now get away with this stuff...they will lose out pretty quickly IMHO.
Part# U8610-2B000.
Hey with the price of gas going up...You will have to take on a second job to tow anything anyway
CONFIRMATION:
The above is the part # and it is only available as the entire kit...cost=$400...available if you want to shell out that kind of $ for a kit that should not cost over $200 complete!!! :mad:
AAGGGHHHH!
Statistics say most accidents occur less than 1 mile from your home ...
The statistics don't have quite that resolution. The statement is that most accidents occur within 25 miles of home -- which should come as little surprise since almost all of your driving is within 25 miles of home. Trips further away are more dangerous typically because you're on unfamiliar turf.
nhskigirl,
Beware the dreaded interlock when disconnecting the seatbelt buzzer. It may cause other things not to function such as headlights, stereo, cruise control or something else which you may not discover until an inopportune moment.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
To be continued
Sparcap
To be continued.
Sparcap
To be continued.
Sparcap
P.S. Thanks for the pointer to hitchshopusa.com, since their prices is about $20 less than etrailer.com's for this same box.
I spoke to the Director of Consumer Affairs, in Hyundai's Corporate office (I did not contact anyone at the Consumer Affairs call center). This is about as high up the food chain as I guess you can go. The day I spoke to the Director they had just come out of a meeting where this issue was addressed. I was assured my Santa fe would have the map light issue corrected. I was told it would take time for these parts to become available.
I hope this helps. I would like to think the the Corporate Director of Consumer Affairs would know what they are talking about.
Do you have any additional contact information for the Director you spoke to? My Case Manager at Consumer Affairs keeps insisting that this issue will not be fixed for my vehicle and I would like the fix. Did the Director mention that this may come out as a TSB or do we need to push the right people?
Thanks!
2007 Santa Fe AWD Limited with Touring and Premium packages
Dark Cherry Red with beige leather interior
The 6 cyl engine in the Santa Fe and now the milage had dropped to 28 miles per gallon.
Is this for the 3.5l engine?
I don't believe there are any relations with Mitsu on the 3.5L V6 Sigma engine which resided in the previous generation Santa Fes.
There have been no Mitsu ties on Hyundai's mainstream models, for a long time now.
So the reliability of these Lambda engines remains to be seen? What about the 2.7 V6, are these a better bet as far as reliability?
The 2.7L V6 is just as durable but I can't comment further since I haven't had much experience with such.
Bottom line, Hyundai has a more than stellar record with its own engines, especially many recently introduced ones. Trust me, either engine would be the last thing to worry about for a long time.
The other interesting tidbit about the Lambdas are its flexibility. In addition to the above capability and benefits, they can be tuned to as much as 300hp.
P.S. where can I get one of those 300hp tune-up kits?
Talking about new engines, Hyundai will soon debut a new V8 engine on a production car (has resided in concept versions a few times already) - Tau family (4.6L, 5.0L, 5.5L), with early speculations including superchargers and engine deactivation feature. Hyundai has not release much info to the public but look forward to seeing more in the upcoming months.
I have a friend working fairly high up at Hyundai Motor America (HMA) corporate office. He's been feeding me some vital information, including the capability of the Lambdas. I don't know much more other than it has been internally tested and is possible. I will try to get more info out of him...
And has anyone been able to get from the dealer the tow prep without the 3rd row seat? The touring package bundles it all together and I don't really want the 3rd seat - just the tow capability.
Greg
07 SF AWD Ltd w/option pkg 36.
Do like the vehicle though
consumer affairs. I gave them my list and suffice to say the local dealer service person called me right away. The trailer harness and auto-lock feature will be taken care of in the form of "Hyundai dealer service credit" in that they do NOT give cash for your problems.
I told them what the dealer wanted for the auto-lock feature to be turned on and what I paid for the T-one harness 118415 and the person "graciously" doubled the amount because they could authorize this themselves. I also was informed that this was a "one time credit" , it sure felt like the show "Deal or No Deal"
I will use this for some oil changes, they wanted me to get accessories for this credit. The MPG issue was touched upon, however as others have spoken about the "BRICK WALL" was hit in this regard. They have a canned answer for any MPG issue, "we did not set the sticker values...the government did..blah...blah...blah"
At the end of this conversation, I felt like I had been talking to a shrink, in that I had to feel good at the end.
........Yay
There is a flashing red light on top of the instrument panel at the base of the windshield directly in front of the driver.
The owner's handbook refers to a temperature sensing unit at that location. There is a similar device on the right side of the instrument panel but it does not have the light. My first guess is that the two sensors are a part of the dual zone automatic temperature control. But the flashing light has me puzzled. :confuse:
Anybody know what the light is for? It flashes all the time, even when the car is not locked which makes me think that it is not part of the car alarm.
My SF is the Se model that also has the auto light control.
Thanks,
Karen
I have two twin 1 yr old girls and we have the 3rd row seat. Its really comfortable and roomy. Both my mom and I were able to fit in the 3rd row. My 6 ft brother also fit back there even though his head hit the top a little. I think it will be of more use when my girls have their little friends come with us places.
I would definitely recommend getting it.