engine serial numbers
Can someone tell me where I can locate the engine serial number on a 1967 Ford 289? Thanx
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You can easily identify the engine as a 289 vs. a 302 by looking at the casting numbers at the rear of the right cylinder bank. But guessing the exact year of the engine, that takes some research and reading. And mating it to the exact car you have----well good luck.
ENGINE IDENTIFICATION
"10243880, 350CID, 95-00, 4B Main, Gen.I crate motor, roller cam, one piece rear seal, 330HP"
ZZ4 engine -- this is a crate motor sold by General Motors, so it was never installed in a car at the factory.
Any help would be appreciated.
Anyway, casting numbers are quite large, at back of engine, driver's side, just where block meets the bell housing. You may have to get a flashlight and lay down on the fender.
I know it's embedded somewhere in the engine but where, and how many letters/digits
It's urgent.
Thanks
TL
but couldn't identify the engine serial number. The engine I have has a serial number next to the distributor that says "DR140622CAL", which is different from the serial number layout on the above web site. Is there any other sources engine serial number searches?
The other interesting fact, is that everyone, including the old timers, has told me that the 1950 216 has babbitt bearings, which I understand to mean that the bearings are integrated into the piston rods and crankshaft main bearings and are adjusted with shims. When I pulled one of the rod bearing caps off it had a bearing insert. One of the old timers came over and verified that the engine had insert bearings. I also under stand that the 1950 216 engine was a light blue color like the engine compartment, but the engine is orange. I'm wondering if the engine is a different year? Like I said above, I'd like to track down this engine serial number
http://www.inliners.org/becks/BCN2.html
There is also a 235 babbitt engine in some early heavy duty Chevy trucks. Old timers don't always know what they're talking about.
You might also look for "235" stamped on the right side of the engine, way down low near the front, where the block meets the oil pan.
216 inline head casting #: 1950-53 3835517 All 216
216 inline block casting #: 1952-53 3835849 216 Passenger, Truck
52 AKCA. AKCM, BKCA, BKCM, KAA, KAM, KAC, KAP, KBA, KBM, KCA, KCM, KCD, KCQ 3835849
53 ALCC. ALCP, BLCC, BLCP, LAG, LAT, LAJ, LAV, LBA, LBM, LCA, LCM, LCC, LCP, LCD, LCQ, LCH, LCU 3835849
Makes me think it's a 52/53 engine. Where do the prefix letters come into play? Still baffled by the DR140622CAL serial number.
Here's some info on GMC casting numbers and even some Canadian engine #s.
http://home.znet.com/c1937/Cast.htm
Yes your "DR " number is a asigned ID number. Many years ago many states used both engine and chassis ID numbers on titles. So you got a GM new replacement or reman engine you had to go down to the DMV and get it inspected and the title corrected. Dad replaced the engine in our 41 Chevy in 51 and down to DMV we went. Most car makers stopped using engine IDs towards the late 50s and states started using just the chassis ID on title.
I'm pretty well convinced that the the 50 truck has a 52/53 216 engine. When getting parts I'll probably treat it as a 52 or 53 engine.
Yes your engine and your trucks' title could have the same VIN.
So what did your *casting* number tell you? That's what you go by.
216 inline head casting #: 1950-53 3835517 All 216
216 inline block casting #: 1952-53 3835849 216 Passenger, Truck
No, DMV doesn't mess with engine serial numbers. If you truck had a VIN # on the title that was the same as the engine number (this often happened back then, even though your truck has a perfectly good chassis # which SHOULD be on the title), and then if you changed the engine, your truck would still carry the old engine # on the title.
If your truck has a CHASSIS # on a plate somewhere, I would make THAT the VIN on the title.
As for which engine you have, that's important for ordering parts, as you say, but you don't necessarily have to know the YEAR of the engine, just the type.
If you have a 216, then you don't have insert bearings. One tip off is if you drop the pan, you'll see little "dippers" attached to the crankshaft to splash oil on the bearings.
It's a very primitive engine and if you are ambitious, it would be nice to put a 235 in there someday.
The chassis number is correct. This is a 1950 3100 series built in Van Nuys California in March 1950, and unless changes, the engine would be a 216 of course.
head casting #: 3835517 (Research says this is for 1950-53 All 216)
block casting #: 1952-53 3835849 (Research says this is for 1952-1953 216 Passenger, Truck)
My friend, that was a fleet mechanic for the railroad (long, long ago), says my egine definitely has insert bearings, not babbitt. Maybe I should pull the rod bearing and post a picture.
So okay, you have a 216 with modified bearing inserts and rods. I still think, if you are going to keep and restore this truck, that putting in a 235 would be a good idea.