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Also, make sure you do not have too much oil. I accidentally did that once.
i take it one step further. SAVE money, get a loaded VW that has all of the performance safety and quality (in my case so far anyway) of the stripper BMW, M-B, Volvo, etc.
When (and if) I can afford to, I will be buying an E class Mercedes. Cheesy to buy the lowest model in a class that is all about the benjamins. even if i liked an A4, i would have a hard time, cause people would think i was just too poor for the far superior A6 lets face it - people don't buy 3 series BMW cause they want to, they buy them because they can't afford a 5 excusing the 330Ci convertible of course. i would take one on of those. heck, even a 325 convertible would be acceptable
i WANT a convertible. but i really also want four somewhat usable seats i think. that leaves the BMW, and soon the Audi A4 Cabrio. thats it! maybe a used C70....
to the guy that kicks doors...i know you! hehe.
Even if the paint matches, even if you saw them get out of their car, slam the door into your car and walk away, throwing a lit cigarette on your hood while talking on a cell phone...you still have no legal or social justification for reacting with an eye for an eye or any violence. That is the way things get ugly, the reasons why road rage kills, and the reasons why I hate going out places. It is that instant anger that we all get when we are crossed, that moment of irrational thought (longer for some than others) that encourages us to behave so poorly makes a fool out of us all...
Just think how you might feel if you were the victim of someone else's irrational anger...it is unpleasant - to say the least. I know.
As much as it sucks, legal channels exist to protect us from ourselves and from the other guy. What if you are about to kick in that door, matching paint to ding...and as you reel off a good whack, he is coming down the lane, bad mood and all. You can't assure yourself of who he/she is, what they are capable of and to what lengths they might go to retaliate...so just leave it alone.
If I come out and see someone kicking my door, I am gonna be mad, but hoping not already mad enough about other stuff to keep my cool. If I call the police, prevent him from leaving or record his license number and let him leave, then file the report...he is the criminal, I am the victim.
If I get mad and attack him, someone else calls the police, I am arrested for assault (not reasonable to use excessive force to protect valuables, nor to retaliate with violence an act of vandalism. I would rather be sitting and chatting peacefully with the cops and watching the other guys shake a bit, then sitting in the back with handcuffs around my wrists. No matter how cool a person you are...you just look guilty and stupid in a pair of handcuffs.
Think about that - and match it up, then call the cops and take down his information. They won't likely come down, but they may be able to help you process the claim. Hopefully, they will arrive in time to help you confront the person, hopefully assuring you get money to repair your damages...but don't count on it.
On the carelessness angle...of course door dings are a result of carelessness. That is what an accident is!!!! Accidents are caused by carelessness: failure to be alert, failure to hold the door, failure to properly judge distance as you make a tight turn on a crowded city street, failure to use the brake when you are parralel parking. Accidents happen because of carelessness and failure to pay attention...how else do they happen? So every door ding should be accidental, and therefor blameless to some degree, at least enough to prevent one from kicking in their door to retaliate.
Sure, some people are just plain sad...purposely doing things, and they deserve punishment...but we don't get vigilanty justice without a cost.
or am I wrong?
E? Come on, go bling bling and get the S! MB makes some nice looking vehicles now. The SL is downright sexy.
>>even if i liked an A4, i would have a hard time, cause people would think i was just too poor for the far superior A6 <<
Hmm, strange I wouldn't think that. I'd figure you value performance and fun over staid, roomy and restrained. Nothing wrong with an A4. It's a slick little car and when you get the S you're in compact sedan heaven. Yowsers what a fun car.
>> lets face it - people don't buy 3 series BMW cause they want to,<<
Justin, should we cross-post this to the 3 series topics? Talk about hate mail. Some people favor the smaller, more agile, quicker 3 over the bulkier, slower, less responsive 530/540. I do. The 5's nice (the M5 is the uber-sedan) but it's not as attractive visually to me, it's too large and it doesn't offer that razor sweetness. I'd bet many 3 series owners would agree. Many can easily afford a 5 but choose the 3 for other intangibles.
>> they buy them because they can't afford a 5 <<
The cross post would get you killed.
>>i would take one on of those. heck, even a 325 convertible would be acceptable <<
Nice, smooth car.
>>i WANT a convertible. but i really also want four somewhat usable seats i think. that leaves the BMW, and soon the Audi A4 Cabrio. thats it! maybe a used C70.... <<
Yeah it's a short list if you want performance, comfort, luxury and 4 seats sans roof. What about a Bentley? LOL
For me I'm still stuck loving the 3 series design (99-01 - I hate the look of the 02s), but fearing the reliability. The more I read about the G35 coupe, the more convinced I am that I should save my nickels for a December purchase.
why do you think they take notes for? i hope it's for more than insurance purposes. perhaps they want to gather information along with information from similar incidents that would provide clues to who the criminal is which would eventually lead to the criminal's capture which would prevent further vandalism. hence, the police would be protecting us.
Well, that flies in the face of the SDPD's motto "To protect and serve."
Hmmm, I pay the police to protect my property. In fact in a lockean view (Locke heavily influenced the founders) the gov't exists to do a few things and one of those is to "protect private property."
Personally, I'd prefer if they wouldn't protect my Jetta.
To be honest, I find most vehicles to be quite a racket though...I long for advent of cars that are whisper quiet and we don't even hear tire noise.
I am talking about door dings. I would never be "the victim of someone else's irrational anger" with regard to door dings because I DON'T DING DOORS! I don't even put myself in a situation where I might ding a door. If I can't park and get out without possibly dinging a door, I find another parking spot. If I happen to "accidently" ding someone's door, I will leave a note and offer to pay for the damage. It's really pretty simple. If everybody else could figure this out, the world would be a better place.
"On the carelessness angle...of course door dings are a result of carelessness. That is what an accident is!!!!"
I'm sorry. I should have been more clear about this. IMO, door dings are an act of negligence, and carelessness. With regard to my door kicking incident, the ding that the person left was HUGE. HUGE dings ARE NOT ACCIDENTS! They are the result of wrecklessly swinging open your door without any thought given that there might be a car next to them.
And how about that passerby with a cell phone who sees you kick the car who dinged your door? What are you going to tell the cops when they come after you because that person called and gave your license plate number and reported you?
That's the chance I take I guess. Believe me, when I kicked that door, I was very careful and tried to make sure no one else was looking. I don't know many people who live by the "two wrongs don't make a right" philosophy. They may claim to live by that, but few people do. I'm not the kind of guy who "turns the other cheek". Sorry.
Keep in mind, you might not see them, but someone is always watching.
Sounds like you want a Maurauder!
5 adult seats, convertible!
The police are there to keep law and order in society. They do NOT watch out for individuals.
I stand behind my original statement. The police are NOT there to protect you! You are responsible for yourselves.
Hey, I can have anything printed on the side of my car also.
"Hmmm, I pay the police to protect my property."
You do? They are there 24 hours a day watching your car?
"In fact in a lockean view (Locke heavily influenced the founders) the gov't exists to do a few things and one of those is to "protect private property." "
There is case law to the contrary. The police ARE NOT THERE TO PROTECT YOU OR YOUR JETTA (on topic connection here!)
here is your homework:
http://www.guncontrolvictories.com/gc_nopolice.html
http://digital.net/~kenaston/Patr/PoliceNotLiable.html
http://www.totse.com/en/law/justice_for_all/policeno.html
Dial 911 and Die
http://www.jpfo.org/dial911anddie.htm
http://www.a-human-right.com/RKBA/s_protection.jpg
"Personally, I'd prefer if they wouldn't protect my Jetta."
They don't!
:-)
Just recently, I noticed a little blue smoke on startup. Haven't checked the oil level lately. Will likely do that tomorrow (Saturday).
basically, police are largely a REACTIVE entity--i.e., you call the department, and officers respond. of course, the officers patrolling are proactively looking for things, but they can't be everywhere at once and if they don't know something's happening, they can't do anything about it. when you report that someone left a huge dent in the side of your jetta, even if your particular case is not solved, the data you give (time, place location, suspect info, etc.) is helpful. the more information that comes in gives a clearer picture of what kinds of things are really happening in the community. after the information is analyzed, the agency can become PROACTIVE and come up with a plan to address the particular problems of the community.
before everyone jumps on me about how the police suck, i admit it's not perfect, and there are a lot of things that factor into how the job gets done. but some agencies really do try to assist the community and address their needs.
I agree that police are mostly reactionary. They have to be. Nobody knows when exactly crime will happen...they can only a) work to prevent it and b) act when it happens.
You can't blame the police for not chasing down somebody that dinged your car. Think of the larger picture...your car ding vs. somebody running a red light, causing a major MVA. Door dings are very low on the list of priorities.
Police don't suck. That's all I'm going to say about that.
the fuel pump failed, leaving my wife (then girlfriend) stuck in an unknown neighborhood at night. .... UNDEPENDABLE VW!!!!
doing tires tonight or tomorrow. standard wear items.
doing exhaust and brakes next Wednesday. it's getting there in years.
needs rear axle beam bushings. ...SHODDY VW!!!!!
No, I do NOT support vigilantism or revenge acts.
As for the protect thing...sorry but in the Lockean mold the government exists to encourage commerce, provide infrastructure and protect private property (that doesn't mean camping by it 24/7 - it means an effective military, police force, laws, prisons, punishments, etc.). The cops can't be around my house all the time but they can patrol often, they can aggresively follow-up on crimes and prosecutors can send up the baddies for a long, long time...all of this helps to protect my property. The mere presence of a cop is only a cog in the machine.
If you really want to pursue it, why don't you go to the Meet the Members topic in your Owners Club -- any subject is welcome there (of course subject to your Membership Agreement).
We need to remember that this is not a social chat board for folks who happen to (or happen not to) own a Jetta.
It is a Town Hall discussion provided for folks to discuss their *vehicles* and directly-related issues, as well as a place for folks interested in the Jetta to ask questions and find a knowledge base.
On the other hand, you are welcome to use the Meet the Members discussion as a social chat board -- that is exactly its purpose!
Thanks for your understanding.
Pat
Sedans Host
My engine worked fine until about 9k miles. That's when I had to add some oil (around 10 cu. in). My friend's car consumed more oil when it was 9k.
I guess you just have to wait for some more miles. Just watch the oil stick!
Another time the ignition system was suddenly dead when I took off from the stop light (at night also ...). Those two happened when it was 6 years old. And the next year, the front left suspension was broken so that I had to tow the car to my friend's shop.
So can I say that mazda is not dependable?
Winsan, it seems to me that you may say your one Mazda was not dependable, and leave it at that. Somehow mention of Mazda anything throws this discussion into a turmoil, so if you have further comments to make, please go to an appropriate Mazda discussion or comparison discussion.
And you lurkers wanting to defend the Mazda, just skip it this time, okay.
Thanks.
Pat
Sedans Host
Anyway I hope the jetta holds up well because my sister does not take care of anything.
all for a VW engine. fancy!
my instructor who drives a 2000 528 AND a 98 LS400 told me today that he is looking at a commuting car, and that after seeing my car, he is smitten. all that luxury and safety for $20k. he doesn't even know how it is possible. of course, i said he can have it - i will be glad to take the used LS400 off his hands.
BLUE - talk about silent cars. driven the granddaddy Lexus?
also - just helped a friend out of a Mini and into a Golf. saved him thousands, got him better performance, and blue lights. my good deed for the year
this board is busy busy busy all of the sudden. whats up? i can't keep up!