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Buick Regal



  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    I'm not sure where you are coming from about replacing the 3.8. I have not seen anything about it being replaced until atleast 2005. The Rendezvous has a 3.4 litre that is used in many cars like the base Impala, GM Minivans, and Century. Apparently the 3.8 will not fit in the Rendezvous or minivans.

    GM has a 4.0 litre, 250hp DOHC v8 in the Olds Aurora.
  • jpstaxjpstax Posts: 250
    Raced a Dodge Ram pickup with my '98 Regal GS yesterday. The Dodge has 240 HP with 300 ft-lbs of torque, so we were pretty evenly matched. I beat him to the next light by ~1/2 car length ('goin about 55). He rolled down his window and said I had a bad *ss car for an old geezer (I'm 58). I laughed. BTW, he didn't want a re-match.
  • verdi942verdi942 Posts: 304
    jumper - I misspoke; the Rendeszvous does run [an underpowered] 3.4, which is the only engine that fits since they're using a Pontiac minivan platform for it. As to a new Regal powerplant, may I point out the new V6 Altima which makes 260 ponies [on premium gas] as the kind of competition that did not exist in this segment 4 years ago. Of course, the Regal is a more refined design and it sells for less [though the MSRP's are close] these days.
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    Altima has 240hp, Maxima has 260hp.

    The next Grand Prix has a more tuned version of the 3800SC motor and is supposed to get 280hp/280lb ft. Details are on Pontiac's site. The next Regal may end up with this motor too. It is going to be 2005 before the next Regal though, since Lutz vetoed the proposed '04 one.
  • elmoblatch1elmoblatch1 Posts: 134
    Going on vacation & wondering how much of a difference the higher octane nectar will give me in terms of mpg.

    Anyone here already done the comparison ?

    I have a 2002 Regal LS-

    Thanks in advance.
  • Stick with 87. The rest will just empty your pocket.
  • pgorgespgorges Posts: 28
    What in the world are you doing racing a Dodge Ram pickup?! I own both and the Regal would be one sad sedan if it couldn't outrun my truck. How could you only beat it by a 1/2 car length? I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but that match up makes no sense. At least I wouldn't be bragging about it. That is the big problem with the Regal, it is thought of as an old geezer car.
    I'm 35 and realize I will be a senior citizen soon enough, but I want to be driving a Corvette or something similar when I'm over 50. Buick shoots themselves in the foot my marketing to the AARP crowd almost exclusively. Even on this board, I see people posting about their sore backs or other ailments. Not exactly performance sedan chat. I'm not trying to be a smart [non-permissible content removed] or offend anyone, just voicing my 2 cents. The Regal need not be a "Sleeper" car if Buick would pull their head out. Make it a true performance sedan with class. Unfortunately, it will never happen.
  • jpstaxjpstax Posts: 250
    A lot of people over at the Impala discussion group are whinning about the new 2004 Impala SS only getting the L-67, instead of a new V8 with RWD. They should be very happy to finally get this great engine! Chevy tried to fit a detuned LS1 in the engine bay, but it was too cramped. I love my Regal GS. I think GM will have to develop a new motor for the Regal GS and Pontiac GTP to compete with Chevy.
  • jpstaxjpstax Posts: 250
    "What in the world are you doing racing a Dodge Ram pickup?! I own both and the Regal would be one sad sedan if it couldn't outrun my truck. How could you only beat it by a 1/2 car length?"

    He must have had some mods to stay pretty much even with me. I saw and heard (loud) dual exhausts. He also might have had the 3500 series motor, which is a 5.9 liter V8, with 345 ft.-lbs. of torque.
  • I am keeping the Regal and its going in for the routine maintenance on Monday. It has almost 125,000. I am also taking a crack at fixing the A/C display this weekend.

    Related to the 3800 and with some insider info, it will be around until at least 2008 and likely longer. They are expanding the plant where these are built. I understand that thay have manufacturing problems with the 3.5 and can't get the volume they need. GM considers the 3800 not techie enough and that is true, but the darn thing performs.
  • BushwackBushwack Posts: 258
    The G35 is a very sweet car. I drove one for four days and can't say enough good things about the car. As for a Regal GS/G35 comparison, it can't be done. The G35, in its first year of production, is as solid as can be. Its craftsmanship is far and away better then a Regal. About the only (minor) complaint I have of the G35 is the nav. system isn't as refined as Acura's.

    If I was in the market to trade my '00 GS for a car, the G35 would fit my needs perfectly.
  • jackjtjackjt Posts: 178
    Could give us some feedback on the SC3800 vs the G35's engine? What about ride and handling?

    Or is the G35 so much better than the GS that you can't make a comparison?
  • verdi942verdi942 Posts: 304
    What about real-world [NOT MSRP] prices for Regals vs G35's?
  • I did the A/C display fix and they now work fine. My only investment was a soldering iron. If your slow and careful, this is about a 2 hour job.
  • BushwackBushwack Posts: 258
    From the drivers seat, the engine of the G35 is quieter. I'm sure much of that has to do with insolation. Acceleration of the G35 comes on very smooth while the GS is more V8-like. Without a doubt the GS snaps your neck back when the supercharger kicks (can't say that about the G35). Handling of the G35 is far better then the GS. Of course the cars are not meant to compete with each other (FWD vs RWD). The Maxima is a better comparison for the Regal then the Altima or G35.

    The (boulevard) ride to me was about the same. The difference is that you have the feel..the surroundings that the G35 is put together so much better the the Regal. For the interior, everything just fits better in the G35. Much better then a new Regal; which has had 5 years to 'get it right'. Of course, in comparisons to other DOMESTIC cars, the Buick's fit/finish is above average. But compare it to a Maxima, G35 (Avalon or Mazda 6), and the Buick looks like crap.

    Back to the engine. I'm sure the hi-reving 3.5 ltr G35 is costlier to maintain. If I had my choice, I'd raher have a tried and true engine then a newer one (though the 3.5 ltr has ben around at least 12 years). But any hi-reving, 4 valve per cylinder engine is bound to cost more $$$ then an ol' pushrod. But if you're leasing, it doesn't make a difference.

    Pricing?? The G35 is in demand. So while a loaded Buick GS can be grabbed for $24,000, I think a G35 currently demands a premium price.
  • jackjtjackjt Posts: 178
    Liked you comparison. You are right on-- re: the interior. The GS is nice, but can't compare to some of the foreign competition. The leather is cheap looking with the dash and gauges quickly becoming outdated. Love that engine though! Have really enjoy my 01 GS. Only have about 11,000 miles on it now.
  • BushwackBushwack Posts: 258
    From the most minute detail in every car, surveys, corporate discussion groups and various testing procedures are used to determine the type of plastic, fabric of carpet and types of exterior nuts and bolts should go into every car. ANything that the public eye can see has been nit-picked and scrutinized before going into production. yet it still amazes me how off base the Domestic car makers are. They DO NOT have the pulse of what "Joe America" is looking for in a car.

    Take the Corvette: Its interior plastics and flimsy leather interior is pitiful. How all these cheap pieces can go into a fine mechanically-tunes car is amazing! Corvette sales would increase tremendously if GM would emulate the Imports procedures on determining aesthetic 'pieces' that go into a car. The Boxter, The SLK and the 3 Series Bimmer wouldn't sell as many cars as they do if GM would make the interior of the Corvette as 'world class' as its engine and suspension is.

    This all holds true for the Infinit G35 vs the Regal GS. Hell, its been this way for the last 25+ years ever since the imports made a dent in domestic car sales. I just can't understand what GM, Ford and Chrysler are thinking when they put the interior pieces together.

    The Lexus LS 430 & Caddilac DTS should be compared head-to-head. But the interior refinements of the Lexus takes that car many levels higher then the DTS or any domestic luxury car. There should be no reason(s) why these two cars shouldn't have equal sales numbers. Again, GM has dropped the ball on what the consumer wants in a car and therefore, with the import car makers actually listening to consumer input, they pull away in just about every segment of the market.

    OK...gotta get to work - getting off the soapbox.
  • mwdreammwdream Posts: 91
    If you need your AC unit display fixed, somebody on Ebay offers this service for around $50. You need to pay for shipping...

    check it out.

  • verdi942verdi942 Posts: 304
    You are so right. From cupholders to radio knobs, GM and Buick are dropping the ball that the Japanese carry so well for the same MSRP. For just one example, the volume knob on my '02 LS Monsoon radio is made, I swear, out of a leftover Coke 2-liter bottle cap. It actually BENDS and SQUEAKS when I turn it! Of course, the fact that very few Buicks are sold for full price may be a factor in their cheaping-out on the very pieces of the car that the owner sees and touches every day. Sort of a chicken-and-egg thing, I guess.
  • alogoalogo Posts: 1
    2002 Regal LS: With the climate control "neutral" i.e. not blowing hot or cold, I found my steering wheel audio control buttons were very warm to the touch, as if the bulb behind them (it was at night and the headlights were on automatically) was heating up. I've had a 2001 Impala and a 1989 Bonneville with steering wheel controls and never noticed them being warm to the touch. Has anybody else noticed this?
  • nels1nels1 Posts: 25
    The warmth seems to be a common complaint. Have heard them referred to on this site as "wrist warmers." Wish I had said that.
  • verdi942verdi942 Posts: 304
    You can cool down those steering wheel control buttons by dimming the dash lights. Of course, now you can't read the guages as well. Or just wait for winter when you'll be glad for a little extra warmth. Seiously, this is just another example of WWTT [What were they thinking?] when they designed these details?
  • How often should you change the oil on my 2002 Regal GS. It has a gage on it with the % of oil life left. Should I go by the gauge or change every 3000 miles. The book says go by the gauge.
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    Most probably, it does not matter.

    Personally, I changed oil at 2k miles and 5k miles. Than switched to Mobil 1 synthetic with Pure One filter, and am changing according to the oil monitor. About every 6k miles with our driving pattern and driving style. 2000 GS, mostly my wife's car.
  • BushwackBushwack Posts: 258
    Always...ALWAYS change your oil (and filter) every 3,000 miles. I suppose synthetic can go about 7,500 or a wee bit longer.

    Over the past few days during daylight hours, my thermometer reading on my display has read 62 degrees when it should read at least 85 (as is the weather here in L.A.). Oddly, the evening reading seems correct. This will be the 2nd time in 15 months that the dealer will be changing the thermometer (I doubt its the display) under warranty. Anyone else have this issue?

    Lastly, it seems my OEM GoodYear LS tires need replacement after 23,000 miles. In highway driving, anyone have any first-hand experience with Michelin MVX tires? I'm looking for a quiet, highway ride. Wet weather performance is of little issue here in L.A.

  • armtdmarmtdm Posts: 2,057
    I changed the first time at 4300 miles and switched to synthetic. Next change was at 16,000 miles (filter changed at about 10,000). Currently have about 28,000 and time for the next change (filter was done at 23,000) First two analysis looked good except for some higher copper numbers which I believe are due to break in as they are going down. Next analysis should determine this. I just reset the computer when I change the filter or oil. At about 6000 miles the read out still has more then 30% oil life left. On current fill with almost 12,000 miles (granted about a quart in make up oil with filter and usage) the color is still amber and looks good. These engines are not hard on oil, no DOHC or gears to shear the oil.
  • Jack44Jack44 Posts: 221
    How did the new Dunlops turn out?...
  • I just changed my GY Eagles on my '99 Regal GS at 33,000. Couldn't stand the road noise anymore. I put on Firestone Affinity LH30. Road noise is gone, handling is fine.
  • BushwackBushwack Posts: 258
    I don't think I'd buy Firestones. Besides the Firstone/Explorer mess of a few years ago, Firestone has had similar problems for as far back as I remember (circa 1973). As I recall, back in the '70s they had a massive recall after many deaths related to three specific brands of Firestone tires (the deaths were directly attributed to tread separation).

    So, Firestone lives on but never on a car I'll drive no matter has well 'respected' they may be in the automotive community.
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