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It could be the ISS, but I have a feeling that something else broke in there and it has nothing to do with the cradle...very weird.
Best of luck and hopefully is nothing major.
I had heard of 22" wheels, but when they showed the 24" wheels i was speechless. In the next segment they showed the 26 inchers!
If you call 20" wheels "dubs". What do you call 26" wheels?
or dry. 4 adults with luggage and then added a few bags of goodies to bring home.
just turned 10,000 miles while on the trip. Hope all had a great holiday and
didn't overeat too badly.
Our 2k LS developed noises again after the updated cradle was installed at 43k miles. This makes me wonder if GM has done something slightly different in the body structure, plus the updated engine cradle.
Possibly thicker metal , added braces, larger mount areas, more welds or something with the body structure?
The ISS is not a safety issue, neither is the cradle issue. The cradle was an intense annoyance with us, that is why we no longer own a 2k Impala, but now own a Ford Super Crew truck instead. We still miss the 2k Impala LS we had for 2 years, dang good car value wise.
Ford and fires? Late model Crown Vics have troubles, the Pinto had troubles when hit from the rear. Here in AZ we had one Highway Patrol officer burned to death when hit from the rear. A Phx police officer was severly burned when a taxi rear ended him at near 100 mph.
On the flip side , GM trucks 1973 through 1987 with side mount saddle gas tanks had a few fires when hit on the side.
And I am glad that I can login and post again. I have been unable to login for a week.
Tony
Last night while I was driving and pulled up to a stop, I thought I heard my A/C make a wierd growling noise (I assume it was the A/C since I had my heat on inside).
Any ideas?
Paul
s engine would return to idle. This happened at exactly 7K miles on my 2000 LS in August of 2000. Altough the Compressor still managed to churn cold air, the dealer tech said that the Harrison V5 compressor was about to go south. They ordered a new one and it took 1 week to arrive at the dealer and 1 day out of service at the dealer to install it.
This is a more obscure 1st year bug in the Impala.
Tasteless.
Drove my BIL's (brother-in-law the Parts Manager) 2002 Green LS for 1/2 a day while mine was getting serviced. It's different to have a loaner that's virtually identical to what you usually drive. However, once I got back into my own baby I realized just how much I've grown to love this car. It really does feel like a glove when I slide in, strap in, and let loose.
I know I've said it before but....I LOVE THIS CAR!
Brad
Overall, my average "actual" litres per fill-up has been 42.96 but the DIC litres used shows 38.02. However, the numbers have been off by up to 10 litres on occasion.
The one thing I have noticed is that regardless of what the DIC says, when the low fuel light comes on I have about 10 litres left in the tank. I'm confident enough of this to drive for up to 100km after the light comes on and I haven't been caught out yet (the biggest fill-up I've had was 60 litres after driving 689 km).
I don't think I'd call the option "useless" (I think it's a pretty cool toy), but you certainly can't take all its numbers at face value. Fortunately I'm anal enough to run all my own numbers so that I know what reality is. I'll be surprised if you get any response from GM - but let us know!
Brad
I phoned GM Canada and a serice rep asked me to phone back after I spoke to the dealership. The service manager phoned me back and informed me that Wednesday the area Supervisor was going to be at the dealers and they would discuss this situation further and get back to me. I live in Hamilton, Ontario.
John
1. I see a lot of discussion here about the ISS and cradle (apparently problems only on the 2k - with some varying opinions on that?). Are either or both of those problems on recall (in other words, if I buy a 2k and it has those problems, will it cost me anything to have them replaced)? GM reference numbers?
2. I also have been seriously considering a '99 or '00 Concorde LXi - more readily available, and $2-4k cheaper on the used market. Would I be stupid to pay more for the Impala? Would I be stupid to save a coupla grand and get the Concorde (I'm aware of tranny problems on the '98, but I would be getting a '99 or '00)?
3. What determines if an Impala has the Bow Tie or the Impala logo on the front? Year or trim package? I kinda like the Impala symbol - sets it off nicely from other almost lookalikes. Call me vain (go ahead) 8^)
Drove a '00 LS yesterday at a used car lot - 25k miles on the ticker - definitely some funny feelings/noises in the steering - so I figure it has one or both of the cradle and ISS problems. Salesman told me the lot owner also owns a GM dealership, so would fix them before delivery if recall items (he'd have to check). Actually that particular one is the bright red - not my color - I want maroon - but I'm interested in any comments in case a maroon one is located and it is excellent except has the same problems - any comments? And many thanks...
I sat in a Concorde several months ago and did not like it. It has been my experience that GM products are generally more reliable and have better dealer support than Chrysler products.
If it is consistently off all the time, then why worry about it. I take my gas mileage manually anyway at every fill up.
I can't see myself getting a rep from Chevrolet involved.
If you are happy with this feature that gives you better gas mileage figures than reality thats all that matters.
John
Its really not a big deal, but I compare it to buying a $200 or $300 watch that doesn't keep good time. (don't tell me that you are just going to turn it off and forget about it) Hopefully you are going to return it to the store for it to be repaired, replaced or your money refunded.
The lady that I spoke to at GMCanada informed me that if the DIC couldn't be repaired or replaced with a device that works the way it was intended to then I would possibly receive a credit for this item.
If they want to disconnect this and credit me the money, I would be happy then I could buy practical options like locking wheels or better quality floor mats.
John
Let us know what you get off your DIC issue.
Teo: The DIC is not a bid deal, but if your 32000$ car tells you that your are doing 9.9L/100 km in mileage, you would like to believe that your car is telling you the truth.
The DIC comes bundled in the 1SB option package on the Impala LS (At least in the USA). You can always bypass the DIC by purchasing an Impala LS with the standard 1SA package thus saving the $300.00+ charged for the 1SB package.
Name one Asian or European car under $25K that comes equipped with an onboard trip computer standard or as an option....
But, I would understand if arguing makes you feel better. It's pretty frustrating. ;-)
Even if it only costs $150, it should work with a better accuracy than +/- 20%. Imagine a watch or a PDA that costs $150 being off by 20%? Forget about it!
Also, I noticed, while removing the spare tire, a guide tool (terminology in the owner's manual). What is the guide tool used as? All and any posts to this subject matter will be of great importance to me. Thanks and may all have a grand and glorious day!
I myself I am anal with quality (Quality control is my line of work)but the truth is that if you have some basic math knowledge and use the trip odometer, you can figure out the MPG rating yourself. I have had many cars devoid of the DIC and had had no problems...I just appreciate the fact that GM put it in there at a very reasonable price.
But yes, it should work better.
Chevy service manager informed me that too many Impala owners are overfilling their fuel tanks. When the gas station nozzle shuts off at eg. $14.41 round it to $14.50 not $15.00. The filler hose to the tank is small in diameter. Below the gas filler on the car is suppose to be a carbon filter. If gasoline is spilled by overfilling it can severly damage this unit and is over $500 to replace (not under warranty) Service manager says he has seen many unhappy Impala owners in the past 2 years regarding this matter. "SOMETHING TO REMEMBER"
John
How's the Imp doing?
What if the radio tuner was off that much? Would you want to tune to 107.1 in order to listen to 102.3?
How about if the tranny were off that much? That would be a whole gear off on a 5 speed!
An inaccurate DIC is no biggie in the big picture scheme of things. But, it is an indication of how people are willing to tolerate and accept lower quality and performance from the things we buy, and how the manufacturers will continue to do so until they see otherwise.
But in regards to the DIC I have yet to see one trip computer that works 100% all the time. Even my co-worker's new BMW X5 (A $40K + vehicle) trip computer also reports some inconsistencies with MPG, so it seems the problem is more widespread.
To me the radio accuracy to tune in radio stations is much more important than the accuracy of the numbers shown by the DIC. I expect car radio technology not to have problems of that sort at this stage of the game with digitally controlled tuners..as a matter of fact never had.
I am not disagreeing at all with both sides of the argument, but you also need to understand that the Impala is a car that offers a great content ratio for little money in its price segment so one can expect the DIC not to report 100% at all times, again not a big deal IMO.
To me ISS, engine hesitations, warping brakes are more critical problems, while DIC readouts come way down at the bottom of the quality/reliability list.
Heck even when Acura released the NAV system in the '99 TL, it had problems reporting the correct location of the vehicle in the map and in some areas it would report inaccurate streets or directions, so Acura switched to a DVD system in 2000. Those first NAV customers paid $2,000 for the gadget and it didn't work properly as advertised by Acura. Even on recent road tests made on the RL, the NAV has also messed up the directions..imagine if your life depends on these NAVs to be 100% accurate at all times...you'll be toast. Also I would be very mad if my $2K gadget doesn't work properly and instead of taking me to the Opera house it drives me instead into harm's way in a bad neighborhood..that's is really bad IMO.
Will this be the reason why now Acura offers OnStar as standard equipment on their flagship 2002 RL sedan?
Oh, let's not get into how accurate Speedos are or are not..
On the news last night I saw another huge recall announcement on the Focus (over 350,000 units, I think). I wasn't paying close attention but I think it had to do with steering system corrosion. Makes the DIC issue seem rather small 8^)
Brad
2. What determines whether an Impala has the Impala symbol or the Bow Tie symbol? Year or trim package, or something else?
Thanks.
The fact that I still have 2+ gallons left when the gas gauge reads empty is bothering me too.