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Now I know where you stopped in Montvale on your way home from your recent trip when the puppy had an accident...my former company was next door to Mercedes on Mercedes Drive and I lived about 3 miles from you in River Vale.
Small world.
Regards,
OW
Oddly enough, and unfortunately for me, my several year contract with MB-USA (down the hill next to the farm) ended just six months before we built the house on Glen Road. Go figure.
Best Regards,
Shipo
When the entire wiring harness to the steering wheel needed to be changed to correct the airbag sensor failure about 3K miles into my lease on this'06 330xi, I felt spot on that i had made a good decision to lease. Also, major repairs after the warranty expires are much higher for the nameplates in this forum.
The current technology is giving dealers problems with repair, IMO. So, even though an engine is mechanically fine in build quality , the systems that affect it can sometimes be a detriment and that is the price that is paid. Garbage in, Garbage out. Mrs. OW's '03 Yukon had a MAP sensor failure in 2005 that the dealer could not fix until the third try and imminent lemon law procedure was presented to them (NJ is a lemon law state). The engine was/is flawless otherwise (Mobile 1 since inception).
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OW
In the last 4 months or so, I have been visiting BMW dealers 5 times to fix various problems.
During those trips, I had my fuel pump, fuel filter and fuel tank itself replaced, respectively.
Still I had problems with filling fuel.
Today, it happened again:
1) after the fuel pump popped at ~14 gallon (about a full tank), and I pull out the fuel pump nozzle, I saw there was about several ounce of overflowed outside;
2) then, about 10 seconds after I drove the car, there were two moments of "engine shake", each lasted about 1~2 seconds and their were about 5 seconds apart.
All these may sounds subtle, but after considering the history in the last a couple month you won't think they are subtle:
1) 3 months ago I first found it was impossible to pump more than 9 gallons of fuel into this 16-gallon tank;
2) Then I took it to the dealer(s). After a couple of "denials" from the dealer(s), one dealer finally got a magic error code. So, the fuel pump and filter can were replaced;
3) a few hundred miles later, the tank couldn't take more than 9 gallons again;
4) took to a dealer, and another magic error code was found, so the whole fuel tank was replaced;
5) a few hundred miles later, the tank couldn't take more than 9 gallons again;
6) took to the dealer, and that time there was no magic error code. So, "no error code means no problem", and the dealer somehow managed to pump a full tank in by themselves.
7) Today, now is the first time I try to fill the tank full again by myself, after the dealer did it last time.
*by the way, the fuel pumping problem have been reproduced by myself in 3 different gas stations, in various occasions.*
Depressed I regret didn't buy a lexus, mainly because that lexus salesman was rediculously arrogant for nothing.
I assume there is a pressure problem that develops but not every time or the problem could be a combination of pressure and really sensitive gas pump check valves. It did happen at several different gas stations also but I was able to make sure the tank was full.
I had this problem before on a 1994 Suburban. In some cases I needed to rotate the handle 180 degrees to allow the flow not to trip the switch.
Change your gas cap. See if this helps.
Regards,
OW
Best Regards,
Shipo
What i do is to set the dispenser to one or two clicks ( ie not, pumping gas out a max speed ). Then i can go inside and grab a coffee, or clean the windshield.
I guess pumping at a lower flow-rate might avoid this problem in short-term, as suggested above.
But my question is:
will this kind of problem develop further overtime? I don't want this problem to be a time-bomb to explode after the warrantee expires (two years from now). I have this concern mainly because the fact that the idle engine speed did "fluctuated" significantly (the car was shaking like my old 1990 toyota camry) for two moments after yesterday's refuel. This could be an indication that the fuel system (including the tank) problem may be hurting the engine in long term.
By the way, one thing BMW did really lower-than-standard is the fact that this same below-standard fuel tank happened on TWO consecutive tanks. What is the odd for that?
Have you tried a different dealership?
It's sad, but it's the truth for today's BMW service. It funny that a car missing its hood and steering wheel would be considered as "no problem", because "there is no fault code".
Thanks
If you have more than one BMW dealer in your area, I recommend you contact the Service Center or Finance Office of the other BMW dealers and ask what they charge. This plan may be purchased from any BMW dealer. Although BMW offers a suggested price of $1195, I've been told this price provides little margin for the dealer. The dealer has the option to set the actual price he charges.
I haven't purchased mine or enquired yet, and so I do not know all the details of its coverage.
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Follow-up Question: How would you recommend we search the net for pricing info on the extended maintenance plan? I've attempted several Google searches on the web, but it seems as if this price info isn't readily available on the net. I also searched a popular BMW-enthusiast forum, but all I found there was the original MSRP of $995 when this plan was first introduced a few years ago. :confuse:
Were you implying we should cold-contact several different dealers directly, via contact info from the web? Or, can you suggest any hints of how/where we might be able to search for this info more efficiently -- assuming you have some knowledge/experience in this area?
TIA!
The dealer that I hear about most often is Nalley BMW in Decatur, GA.. I'm sure there are others..
Worst case, you should at least be able to get the list price of $995...
Disclaimer: I've never personally dealt with either of these dealers, but they get rave reviews, mostly.... and seem like good guys.
regards,
kyfdx
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By the way, I think your price might no longer be valid.
I was told by two different local dealers that the list price increased late last year from $995 to $1195. One of the sources of this info was from the dealer who tries to charge $1495 now. (He stated the list price of $1195 doesn't provide enough margin.) The other source was from a dealer that typically charges $1195.
Hence, I'm wondering if your info might be slightly out of date? Please speak up (or type up!) if you are convinced the list price is still $995.
In the meantime, I'll follow up on the leads you provided.
Thanks!!
Those dealers I mentioned have a pretty good reputation.. If they say it's gone up, that is likely the truth..
Good luck,
kyfdx
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I am actually considering going in for the original owner protection program - will extend my bumper-to-bumper to 2011 and 100k miles.
For this one - I am being quoted $2575 - if I buy it along with the $985 extended maintenance plan above.
Was wondering (1) whether this is a good plan, and (2) whether there is a 3rd party that offers a comparable plan.
The service manager at my dealer was doubtful about this issue. When I pointed out that this might effect the accuracy of the odometer and consequently the life of the warranty he was simply dismisive. As some of you may know this issue has been posted on other discussion groups. Some respondents have said that the speedometer may read high but the odometer is accurate. This seems unlikely as these two must be coupled in some way. In addition a class action law suit has been settled against Honda for an identical issue. As a result miles for warranties and leases were extended.
Any thoughts on this issue?
Your error vis-à-vis your GPS unit sounds just about dead on with the typical speedo error. Have you checked the registered miles on the odometer? I'd be interested to hear what you find.
Best Regards,
Shipo
2) It doesn't affect the odometer( they work via a different mechanism ). If you want, you can cruise at a fixed speed and reset the "average speed" on your trip computer, then see your spot-on speed. This is what's used to determine "arrival time", "miles to empty" and your odometer readings.
What do you mean when you refer to checking the "registered miles on the odometer."
Idoc2
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Shipo
Here is the answer to your question about about the accuracy of the odometer on my 2007 328xi when compared to the "trip odometer" on my Garmin C530 GPS navigation unit. Over a relatively straight stretch of Interstate, while the car's speedometer was consistently 7% higher than the Garmin's indicated speed, the car's odometer measured only 0.66% greater. Car's odometer = 61.0 miles vs. Garmin 60.6 miles.
Frankly, I am surprised and puzzled that this discrepancy exists.
As for your speedometer, I've never heard a satisfactory explanation as to why our BMWs register high. I will say this though; the ONLY two cars I've ever owned where I didn't get even a single speeding ticket were my two BMWs. Hmmm.
Best Regards,
Shipo
I don't understand why you would be surprised? What reason do you have for thinking that the speedometer needle is directly correlated to the omodeter reading, once you know the speedo is inaccurate?
Speed = miles/hour. Odometer=miles. If miles/hour is wrong its because either distance or time unit is wrong. It seems reasonable to assume that the speedometer is somehow coupled to the odometer and that if it reads erroneously high that the odometer may be doing the same.
Regarding a car built in 1975 I would absolutely agree with you. That said, there is no reason what-so-ever for a car in this day and age to have the Speedometer and the Odometer register results that are consistent.
Best Regards,
Shipo
Is this still true?
Regards,
OW
Yes, but...
Given that modern cars have a speed sensor (or two) that determines the rotational speed of the wheels, they are easily reprogrammed. If you take the factory rubber off your BMW and replace them with rubber with a different Outer Diameter (OD), then you will see a net change in both the Speedo and the Odo in inverse proportion to the net change in OD size. Said another way, the greater the relative OD, the lower the relative indicated speed and distance.
That said, in theory at least, simply taking your car to your dealership for a quick programming change will recalibrate your instrumentation to factory norms.
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Shipo
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Cars are complex machines, and there are a lot of items that require service/replacement over 100,000 miles of use. Tires, brakes (pads, rotor, and fluid), transmission fluid, differential fluid, axles, flex disk, clutch, control arms, tie-rods, shock absorbers, bushings, belts, O2 sensors, catalytic converter(s), and more.
It depends on how the car was driven and maintained, what environments it was exposed to, and a host of other internal and external factors.
its like that Gilda Radner used to say on Saturday Night Live "if it is not one thing, it is another thing.'
Steering wheel alignment is a very touchy thing - there is very much an "art" to getting it right, and very few shops can. I have found only a couple of private shops in my area that can do a proper alignment, they they are specialty shops that cater to high-end sports cars and race cars. A very reputable body shop would be a good place to start if you don't know of any "race shops" in your area.
How old is/was your battery? Have you replaced it recently? What condition is your charging system (alternator) in?
That's a start anyways. I'll do a little more research for you.
P.S. I am surprised that no one has responded to or perhaps experienced the same nonlinearity of their accelerator that I mentioned in my recent post #3225.
Idoc2
See the following for audio/video of our problem:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187584
There is an extensive list on e90post's forum (12 pages so far)
GL
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13504
I took my car into Casey BMW in Newport News, VA for some minor service items: wiper blades and trunk lock. They took care of both issues quickly and returned my car neatly washed. However, they put that grease on the tires and my three year old found it in a flash--result: one brand new dress ruined. (My wife is ready to kill me). Why don't they use Armor All like everyone else on the planet?
With the exception noted above, I've got to give kudos to Casey for getting the job done quickly and effectively.