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Mazda MPV

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  • lyndamarielyndamarie Member Posts: 12
    1. Easier to clean up spills, just in case you have kids(in my opinion)
    2. No static problem after getting in and out of the car with silk dresses and some suits. I HATE getting out of a vehicle and having my dress "stick" to me. It may sound prissy, but ask any woman about "static cling" and they'll say the same thing. (I know bottgers, you don't wear dresses too often (joke!), but how about your passengers?

    We live in Colo Spgs, so hot/cold seats or humidity (sticking to the seats) is not a problem that it might be in warmer/colder climates.

    We've had the MPV about 1 month (1K mi) and love it so far. Like that back well for grocery bags, it's perfect. I have noticed three minor things that I feel Mazda should consider for future models:
    1. Power rear vent windows
    2. Cargo cover so people cannot see what's down in the 3rd seat well.
    3. An extension on the sun visor. The sun visor does not extend to cover all the glass, so when the sun is setting, it can sneak in the side on you. (This may not be a problem for taller people)

    Other than that, we really like the van and will be taking it to TX for spring break. A little fun in the sun. Happy spring break everyone!
  • lmn908lmn908 Member Posts: 34
    Both Thule and Yakima make very good products, and their web sites are pretty informative. An advantage to the aftermarket racks is their increased carrying capacity. (The yakima can carry up to 165 lbs whereas the factory rack is limited to 100 lbs.) The rack also adds some wind noise, which would be less of a problem with a removable rack. We have the factory rack on our 2000 MPV and while I think it is a decent design, if I had to do it over again, I would get the van without the rack and go with a Yakima or Thule for the increased load rating, even though it would cost somewhat more.
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    It's nice to get a woman's perspective once in a while. You don't see much of that in here.

    You pretty much guessed it, there isn't much dress wearing going on in our family, so the static problem isn't an issue. Some friends of ours have a vehicle with leather which we've ridden in several times. We live in Cheyenne, so our weather isn't a lot different from yours. Even with milder weather, leather is cold in the winter, and miserably sticky in the summer. Our family does a lot of shorts wearing in the summer, and leather is absolutely horrible for shorts! There obviously seems to be a lot of folks who like leather, but I'll never have it.
  • scannerscanner Member Posts: 295
    Rutger,

    I didn't opt for the rear climate control because I don't ever plan to have passengers back there, but optional rear heat sounds like a good idea for those in warmer climates who don't need it. I agree Mazda should go ahead and include it with vans shipped to cooler climates.

    BTW, where are you getting your resale figures? Personally, I rather take a $3,000 savings at purchase, than wait years later for just slightly more at resale.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Rear heat comes in the 4-seasons package. I guess Mazda must figure that people in cold climates would order the 4-seasons package, those in hot climates would order the rear air, and those with a little of both would get both.
  • nw_in_xnw_in_x Member Posts: 4
    Looking for some answers...

    I bought a 2002 MPV in Sept:
    I was told that the ^ button on the steering wheel radio cntls would advance thru the preset radio stations. I have not been able to make it work as advertised. I have found that the ^ arrow button works like a scan button rather than a cntl that will advance to my preset stations. How is it suppose to work?

    Also, I thought the rear air cntls also worked for delivering heat. Is this not true.

    Thanks
  • poor_billpoor_bill Member Posts: 6
    I kinda assumed my ^ button worked like it's supposed to, which is the same as yours where it scans rather than controls. I would really prefer the control, but it never even bothered me enough to even look in the owner's manual.

    Can't help you on the heat though, I live in South Florida and haven't had the need..

    However, based on what other people have stated here I think the rear air is only cooling unless you got the 4 seasons pkg.
  • tccmn1tccmn1 Member Posts: 278
    I purchased the 03 LX with 4 Season and rear AC (both separate options). The heat comes out the ducts on the floor and the AC comes overhead. Therefore, you need to order both to have both.

    That radio toggle on the steering wheel is only a scan as far as I know...and have seen so far.
    I too wished it would key in the preset channels! Especially with that darn 3 foot long shifter! But, I knew about that stupid thing going into this vehicle. So far, so good.

    On the need for a rear power vent window. I had them on my two previous Chrysler mini's and did like them...HOWEVER, with the rear power slide down windows, I don't miss them. As you may know, on other minivans, you either pop open the second row manually or have that power rear vent window. The MPV configuration works for me and my kids who like the windows open.

    Today we almost hit 70 here in the Twins Cities; my first chance to open the sunroof and windows since I got this thing. It was a great ride! I really like it so far...500 miles on her now. Zoom-Zoom.
  • nw_in_xnw_in_x Member Posts: 4
    Thanks for the feedback.

    I am disappointed that the ^ button on the steering wheel does not work as my sales person told me. I swear I saw her use it to advance to the preset stations while she was giving me the sales pitch. When I went back for the 1st oil change and check-up she could not figure out how she got it to work the day I bought it. The guys in the service dept were no help. Oh well, I'm still happy with the vehicle.

    I have the 4 seasons package so I assume the rear heat cntl is enabled. At least I hope so since we've had a fairly cold winter here in the Midwest and I use it for the kiddies. Hopefully I have not been sending cold air to the back.
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    Excuse me for asking, but even in the seek mode, doesn't the radio stop on your preset stations? It should. So you have to push the ^ button few more times, what's the big deal?
  • maltbmaltb Member Posts: 3,572
    Hopefully, the MPV will soon get controls like the Mazda6: volume, mode(cd, radio), up/down arrows (control presets and CD tracks) and mute. The other side of the wheel has all the cruise buttons.
  • tccmn1tccmn1 Member Posts: 278
    So with the Toyota Sienna being updated and receiving rave reviews in auto releases, and the MPV being out since 2000 (I believe it was released in 1999), when will the next generation MPV come out?

    I think your right with the stopping on preselect stations...but I'm a little dense as to how the scan works. Mine seems to stop on any station that has a pulse...not just the preset ones. This is using the steering wheel scan. If there's another method to use, let me know.

    ALSO I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE STEREO SYSTEM:

    I have the in dash 6 cd changer with cassette. I was told that this was the top of the line stereo for the MPV...the same as it would be in the ES (Mine is an LX). I can only locate 4 speakers in this thing! Two in front and two by the third seat. There are a a couple acoustic hollows in the back end with grids on them...but no speaker inside them! Also, I have two little round covers on my dash up near the windshield; one on each side. I thought they were tweeters...but they are just covers and nothing comes out of them. Did I get mislead by my dealer when I ordered or are there speakers somewhere else?
    They told me I had 9 speakers with this system!!
  • tomj5tomj5 Member Posts: 209
    We never listen to the radio on long trips. Too much trouble. And don't care for CDs, but the wheel buttons worked good around town on the demo we drove... I like to listen to local news and talk shows. I don't understand the problem. Too bad there is not a CB option..

    On long trips I run a Rshack CB radio with weather news. Listening to the poor old truckers is great entertainment and good for a lot of laughs.. Amazing how many women drivers there are. Plus they will save your life by keeping you updated on dangers you are headed into. Like when I80 Iowa was closed and one guy said follow him. He took us around on the local roads and we lost very little time. Plus they saved my bacon more than once. Like the police chasing a car going the wrong way heading right for us on Houston I10. (I pulled over and stopped..) Weather alerts across the Texas Pan Handle are very handy... If you are heading into a tornado or hail stop under an overpass and climb up under the bridge and pray...

    By the by does anyone have any ideas on temporary mounting a CB in the MPV? On the mitsy I have a wallymart mag antenna mount on the back of the van. Cable is run through the rear door and a temp dash mount. Works great.
  • dwsmhadwsmha Member Posts: 35
    My MPV is finally supposed to arrive this week...Any day now...

    As for the stereo, the way I understood it, the 9 speaker system with subwoofer is one of the three differences in the ES, besides power seat and leather.
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    The dealer said it'll arrive in late May to mid June. I decided to order one because it's obvious we weren't going to find one optioned the way we wanted it.
  • tccmn1tccmn1 Member Posts: 278
    Glad to hear it should FINALLY be here shortly.
    All in all it took about the same as mine did.

    Guess I got burned and bummed on the speaker system. I thought I was confused or it sounded confusing when I ordered the top of the line 6 cd indash, etc. and thought I WAS getting the top of the line all the way. There are so many exceptions and 'small print' to these things, you never know if you hit the mark. It still sounds fine, but paying the extra for the stereo was the idea to get the PREMIUM setup! Especially, since when I did the run through with the sales guy I mentioned; now this has the full speaker system setup right? And he said, oh yeah...RIGHT!!

    Mileage after 500 miles is running at 19.5 combo town and country. So far, no stinky smell yet...knock on plastic.:-))
  • scott31scott31 Member Posts: 292
    The only way to get the 9 speaker system on the LX is to order the new All Sport Package. But, in doing so, you can't order the Power Sliding doors (stupid, stupid, stupid on Mazda's part).

    I would have liked to have gotten the All Sport Pkg on our LX, but we wanted the Power doors more.
  • tccmn1tccmn1 Member Posts: 278
    Thanks for that info! You're right that is stupid! I'm sure that will be tweaked by Mazda as the months go by...seems they change things on the fly anyway. They didn't have that Sport Package back in October when I ordered. As usual, this thing seems to be a moving options target, so to speak. Why they would tie speaker systems in with the model and not the stereo system itself is news to me. Other mfgs. tie the system into the components themselves, not the model...i.e.; DC's, Chrys., even the Kia's!
    I too wanted the power doors, so that would have been a dead point.

    Another thing I noticed; I don't have that little compartment on the side of the third row seat area (fender well). I remember seeing that on the ones on the showroom floor and kinda forgot about it. Chrysler mini's have that and I had it in my previous two minivans. This is the storage area that had the flip up hatch door on it....now it seems to be gone.
    Another pitfall that changed on the fly....?
    Geez, am I starting to whine and dislike something here already or what. Just things to be aware of for future buyers I guess.
  • dwsmhadwsmha Member Posts: 35
    I think that compartment disappears if you get 4 seasons. We test drove one awhile back that only had rear a/c, and it was there. Then we test drove one with 4 seasons, and POOF, it was sealed shut.
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    I think if you opt for the power doors, you loose the 3rd row arm rest storage thiing on the driver side. That was the way it was for the '02's. FWIW, our '02 ES does NOT have it (obviously since we have standard power doors).

    There is a small storage area where the jack goes, but not as convenient as the arm rest one.

    -Brian
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    I hate option packages, and they aren't there to offer the customer anything more, the only reason they exsist is to make things easier for the manufacturer. It's easier for them to install option packages while the vehicle is being built than it is to install individual options. They also make more money from the packages because people will order and pay for them if they include just one option they want. This is a scam. For people who order their vehicles, they sould be able to order individual options. You want power locks and manual windows? It's your vehicle, you're paying for it, you should be able to get it anyway you want it.
  • tccmn1tccmn1 Member Posts: 278
    This stereo thing got so much to me that I went to my dealer guy and vented a little on him. HE was surprised too...or so he said. He did not know that the grills had no speakers behind them....he thought when you ordered the top of the line stereo system with in dash 6 cd, cass., etc. it SHOULD come with the top speaker system too. The grills look much the same on the ES as the LX except for the two tweeters on the dash....where I have caps!
    We ended up sitting in an ES and listening to the sound. I tell you I could not tell THAT much difference to mine. Volume drive was the same. The one difference is in the rear speakers (with that sub-woofer speaker in the compartment area) adds a big booming to the sound. Those little tweeters on the dash don't do much to the high end that we could tell. Anyway, I'll survive with my mediocre sound system. I had an Infinity system in my old DC van which really rocked! It had 6 speakers with two tweeters and could boom pretty good. So I've actually downsized my sound system to that effect. As you may ascertain, I get into my music while I drive.
    Dealer guys suggest an after market sub woofer be put in that compartment...there's room for it there, obviously. We'll see. Live, shop, and learn I guess.
  • dwsmhadwsmha Member Posts: 35
    After 3 months, my van arrived last night. Gonna try to skip out over lunch, get the wife out of class (she's a 2nd year med student), and get it. She's all hyped up about that "moment" when they hand you the keys. Too bad I'll almost never get to drive it, since it's going to be hers. :(
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    This is exactly why I recommend to install an aftermarket system if you really enjoy your music. Factory systems can't compare to aftemerket systems in terms of sound quality, and they're ususally more expensive. Many people choose the more expensive factory systems to avoid the installation hassles involved with installing aftermarket systems. But, if you don't mind doing the install, the rewards will far outweigh the hassles.
  • mchuchramchuchra Member Posts: 25
    I'm about to put a deposit and wanted to get some feedback from you folks on whether this is good deal:

    2003 MPV LX, Silver with gray interior

    Winter Package (aka "4 Seasons package"), Rear A/C, Traction/Side Airbags, Rear step plate, roof rack -- out the door (plus tax, tags) for $20,802, including the $2k deduction for dealer cash).

    Can I do better? Or is this pretty good?
  • scott31scott31 Member Posts: 292
    Very nice price, grab it.
  • mpvowner3mpvowner3 Member Posts: 11
    Hey mchuchra,
    does it ahve power sliding doors, 6 cd changer , power moon roof too?

    bcos with all the options u had mentioned, and with the options that I had mentioned, i paid 24500.
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    Are you getting the S-Plan price? Whether you are or not, that's an outstanding price. It looks like your getting a better price than I am, and I am getting S-Plan pricing. The price of my LX will be $21,700 icluding the $2K dealer cash back, assuming they'll still be offering it when mine arrives. My options are DVD, 4 seasons, rear air, roof rack. Go get it!
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    I understand the owner's manual recommends using 5W-20 weight motor oil in the MPV. I'd like to hear your thoughts on whether or not you will, or do use the 5W-20, or will you go with another weight like 5W-30 or 10W-30.
  • mchuchramchuchra Member Posts: 25
    Hi All,
    thanks for the feedback. The $20,802 price I got quoted above is for a 2003 MPV LX with the following options only:

    4 Seasons Package
    Traction Control and Side Air Bags
    Rear A/C
    Roof Rack
    Rear Bumper Step Plate

    It does NOT include: CD changer, power doors, moonroof. I decided to live without those luxuries.

    It also includes taking the full "$2000 dealer dollars" credit rather than any special financing.

    I did not use an S-plan -- Just good old fashioned negotiating, but using emails to create a little competition between dealers. With the new '04 Sienna out there now (looks like a winner, although more expensive than an MPV), I think MPV sales will slow down and there could be even better deals out there in a few months...
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    I hope you're right about MPV sales slowing down even more. There's nothing I'd like more than to get even more cash back upon delivery than I'm expecting. The only probable falicy I can see with your theory is that the price of the current Siennas is already high, and the new one will certainly be even higher. This may turn some people away looking for a less expensive alternative. I'm hoping it isn't enough to actually increase MPV sales.
  • tomj5tomj5 Member Posts: 209
    bottgers,
    Hear, Hear.... Couldn't agree more...

    Mazda has a low finance deal (not zero) I wonder if anyone has really looked at it? Just curious.. I will probably take the 2K deal....
    TJ
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Actually the '04 Sienna pricing on CE and LE trim is lower than for the '03 models. The CE for example is about $23k, and pretty well equipped. That's in MPV territory for a much larger van. The difference is that there will be no rebates on the new Sienna for some time, and discounts will be harder to come by for awhile than on the MPV. But just wait until the redesigned Quest comes out this summer, and the new Ody this fall--then you'll see some real price competition amongst the Japanese minivan makers, and there might be some great deals on the MPV.
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    I believe Mazda does have 0% financing, but it's only for 36 months. I know this would save me more money than taking the cash back, but I can't afford the payments.
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    I hope you're right about the new Sienna pricing. That should keep those Mazda incentives coming.
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    ......on using 5W-20 oil? Some of you have got to have some opinion on this.
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    Are you people trying to tell me you never plan on changing your oil? I really don't think that's the case, so you're going to have to decide on using some type of oil when that time comes. What weight oil will you be using and why?
  • bomangamibomangami Member Posts: 7
    My dealer was fairly specific that we should use the recommended oil weight, 5W-20 I think. That's what we will be using...
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    I use 5w-30 Mobil-1. First changed at 5k to dino 5w-20, changed to 5w-30 at ~7.5k. I will probably change the Mobil-1 at 6k intervals, but will watch the condition of the oil and change earlier/later if needed. My mileage is about 12k per year, so I figure at the least, every 5 or 6 months should be ok.

    -Brian
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    Why did you switch to 5W-20 dino, then go back to M-1? And why did you only leave the 5W-20 in for 2.5K miles? I will probably dump the factory oil and filter at about 1,500. I've heard it's a good idea to change out the original oil sooner because it's a break-in period.
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    I didn't change the 'factory' oil until 5k, the recommended timing for the 1st change. At that time I used 5w-20 dino as recommended by Mazda. It was at 7.5k that I changed to Mobil-1 (which was last weekend). I plan on staying on Mobil-1.

    -Brian
  • saber86saber86 Member Posts: 128
    download a spreadsheet or make one yourself using excel. That is what I did to compare between zero percent financing versus taking the rebates. Then if you have a laptop, take it with you so dealer can't bs with you on the monthly payment numbers.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    We also have Financial Calculators that may work for some of you. Plus there's a PDA version of Edmunds you can take to the dealers.

    Steve, Host
  • othercarnotvanothercarnotvan Member Posts: 2
    They seemed to have quite a variety in stock in our area (southern Cal). We paid, 24,395 (after rebate) for an ES with 4-seasons, power doors, fog lights, self-dimming mirror, CD-changer, casette, wheel locks and cargo net. They were selling some LXs for as low as 18,750 after rebate but they did not have side airbags which we wanted...With rebate, the prices are about 2K under invoice...We were unable to even FIND a 2004 Sienna to look at....and the best prices we could get on Odysseys were about 1K below MRSRP.

    Question: If anybody knows how to program the "zone" into the self dimming mirror gizmo, and specifically what zone is Southern California....Id appreciate the tip.
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    ......seem to be avoiding the oil question. Is it really that perplexing?
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    get a better response in the MPV Owners Club topics here: /direct/view/.eea42cb

    There are some other non-Edmunds sites too, one specifically that I frequent as do some others from here. Email me if you'd like more info.

    -Brian
  • alexv1nalexv1n Member Posts: 248
    I believe the oil question has been extensively discussed here and on the other MPV site, so I guess you can just do a search of the archives to find all the threads.

    It boils down to using either 5W20 or 5W30 oil changing every 5K miles or 7.5K miles depending on your driving conditions. There is a TSB from Mazda specifying that using either 5W20 or 5W30 is OK for 2001+ MPVs. 2000 MPV had 5W30 oil specification from the day one.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Bottgers, maybe if you said "please" and "thank you" ...

    Steve, Host
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    a lot of people are pre-occupied with other events the past couple of days, not that much time to post.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Lots of people out on Spring Break too.

    Steve, Host
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