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The Micheline Pilot Sport A&S are excellent performance tires and very good in most conditions. They have a stiff side-wall though, so the ride will be harsh.
Another option - dedicated summer tires and use winter tires during the period you mention. Summer tires will handle better and have a better response than most (if not all) all season tires.
If you want both worlds, some say have two sets. I have the all season ContiExtremes and I'm okay with them. Didn't break the bank and not a pushover either. I guess those are my two worlds.
Check out the "Ask Connor At Tire Rack" forum.
connortirerack "Ask Connor at The Tire Rack" Sep 20, 2004 2:51pm
The P-Zero Neros are also pretty good, leveraging more towards performance and less on all-season ability.
Here's Tire Rack's comparo:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/mi_pilot_sports.jsp
-Dennis
I have the T (which is actually a totally different tread pattern on the wifes minivan and the H on my dads Avalon are great. Have been thinking of getting the V for the WRX.
Craig
We are pretty happy with them, both in dry and very wet conditions.
paisan "Isuzu Trooper" Dec 17, 2001 3:42pm
There was also a post where you mentioned your Trooper being extremely stable at 100MPH+ and I don't recall that happening on a race track...
I don't think mike has claimed he never made a mistake, only that he's come to realize that the track is the best place for speed, and now he's sharing his experience with others to perhaps help others.
I see nothing wrong with that. He doesn't sound preachy to me.
-juice
"My right foot is ALWAYS planted on the floor, at least up to 115ish which is the max I've had the trooper. " - Mike, Aug 2002
That's fast and we're not in Europe anymore...
Let's cut each other some slack, that was years ago.
-juice
AutoX, yes, still was never towed then
-Dave
XT6 was never towed anywhere.
-mike
Don't know how many of you know this, but there is a portion of the website that will give you a guaranteed trade in amount for your 2002 or 2003 WRX (obviously if you buy a new Subaru). You enter your VIN number and SUBARU OF AMERICA (not the dealership) will tell you how much your car is worth to them. Just passing along information.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Subaru is giving generous trade-in allowances, IMO. Usually you get low-balled a wholesale price.
-juice
Trade in - $15,916
Private Party - $17,327
Dealer Retail - $19,801
Subaru no-haggle trade-in allowance they mailed me - $15100 for a trade in, under 50K. (though I have no plans at this time)
FYI
NOT a great deal
For instance, a 2002 at the dealer for $19,801?
I saw a brand-new left over 2004 for that price. At fitzmall.com quite a few dipped under $20 grand.
I'd check with Terry if you are trading in. I think Subaru's offer might be more realistic than you'd think.
-juice
I subsequently went back to KBB & Edmunds to check out the trade-in value again after seeing some unbelievable listing prices on an '02 OBS. I was surprised to see the value above $10K, and my heart did a flip flop wondering how I could have made such a mistake. Then I noticed that the mileage on the checked vehicle was lower than mine; and upon entering the correct mileage, my OBS trade-in value was less than $9800.
You'll notice a very large deduction for mileage when it exceeds the averages used for appraisal prices.
Hope this sheds some light.........Terry
Worth a look. Subaru tells you the trade-in allowance up-front, so it's no real work. Then you could try to private-party sale it, if not fall back on their price.
-juice
"We're sorry. At this time, we are unable to determine the value of your 2003 IMPREZA WRX SPORT WAGON."
-Dave
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
WHICH AWD SYSTEM IS BETTER THE WRX AUTOMATIC VTD OR VOLVO V50 AUTO AWD HALDEX WITH TRACTION AND STABILITY CONTROL. WHICH SYSTEM WOULD PERFORM BETTER IN BAD WEATHER (SNOW ICE RAIN)? I WANT A CAR THAT WILL STICK TO THE ROAD NO MATTER WHAT AND WON'T SLIP AND SLIDE?
THANKS
KHYLE
If you have winter tires, either AWD system will be good in winter weather (within reason). To be honest, tires are the most important factor in most cases, and the type of AWD system is secondary.
Craig
My RE-92s are done and I need to get some new tires. I have winter tires/rims, so my first question is whether I should go to a summer tire vs. an all-season. I'm thinking this would be my best choice, but I do live in Michigan and we could get hit with an early snow while my summer treads are still on. Are summer tires that bad in the snow? What about cold weather?
I'm looking for a tire that will have better handling and close to or lower noise level then the stockers.
I'm currently looking at Eagle F1 GS-D3, Bridgestone Potenza RE750, Potenza RE950, and Conti ContiSportContact 2.
Any thoughts on these tires or others.
Thanks for your help.
Paul
The RE-950 is similar to the 750, but carries an all season designation so you should be able to run them year round. They should be quieter than the 750 as well. I don't have personal experience with the 950, but some of the members here have put them on Outbacks with good results.
Craig
Compared to the RE070's, the Pirelli's are much more comfortable and livable with a slight tradeoff in "turn-in" response. The RE070's were so stiff that they exhibited virtually no roll at all on turn in, but you paid for that with an exceptionally harsh (and loud) ride. The PZero's are very stable and quiet, and they don't tend to follow every groove in the road like the 070's did.
I personally won't go back to summer-only tires...I don't drive aggressively enough to warrant them, and with unpredictable seasons, it's just not worth the risk of getting caught in the snow with them. If you're taking the car to a track or *really* pushing it on the road, then you might prefer the added response of a summer tread.
Brian
Brian
I have my choices down to Pirelli PZero Nero M&S, and Bridgestone Potenza RE950. It looks like the Pirelli's are a little less expensive and have slightly better performance (from tire rack reviews), but the Potenza's due have that Uni-T technology. Does anyone know if that really improves the wet traction after the tire wears down compared with other tires?
Thanks again for all your help.
Paul
Subaru's VTD system is AWD all the time and will react to slippage on top of that.
Craig
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
In the hard turns, I couldn't tell that much of a difference between the FWD and AWD Volvo's.
-Dennis
If your idea of light snow is the super slushy stuff that melts as it hits the ground, they might be ok. But if you drive in any kind of real snow, I strongly advise against them.
Other than snow, the tires are great. They are quiet, and have very good grip. They are also very good in rain. Not snow though.
-juice
BTW, summer tires like the 750, ES-100, and T1-S are generally great in the rain. As long as temperatures don't drop below about 40F, they can be used year round.
Craig
Anyone know?
I put stock rims and tires back on my wagon for te winter. In the spring I have to get new tires for the 17's. Anyone have experience with Kumhos?
Don
Hope everybody else is doing as well or better!
DjB
-mike
What are you using for gear oil?? (stock?)
Craig
Turned out to be a bad synchro.
-Dennis
Some very early Foresters had premature wear on the first gear synchros, and folks that replaced them never had problems after that.
You'll have fresh gear oil, look at this as a free tranny service.
-juice (the optimist)
Hopefully, you haven't been flogging through the gears. :-) The dealer will go over the tranny with a fine-toothed comb.
-Dennis
Scott
Hey Scottie,
hop over to the Official SOA presences thread
-Dave
Call 800-SUBARU3 and open a case number, jot that down.
Then follow up with Patti on the thread Dave mentioned.
-juice