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Subaru Impreza WRX

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  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Might want to look into side skirts and or front lip rear spats. Don't forget the WRX is based on a rally car which has extra ground clearance to avoid rocks, etc.

    -mike
  • bedabibedabi Member Posts: 149
    I've never found strong crosswinds to make the car unstable. They are felt though. Out of curiousity, what did you previously drive? The steering on the WRX is much more precise than most other typical sedans, for ex. the Camry, Taurus, Accord, etc. You'll feel a stronger crosswind effect than on cars with softer steering feedback.
    Did you check your tire pressure? Often, cars right out of the dealer's lot will be pressurized to the limit. Mine was at 42 psi out of the ldealer's lot. I now have them at 36 psi front, 33 psi rear.
    Finally, if you're taking a turn quickly, just rev up a bit any apply some power at the apex of the turn. The car turns in very crisply.
    Frankly, after 2,000 miles you're probably just starting to learn how to really drive it. This is my first turbocharged AWD car, and unless you traded in an S4, it must be your first too.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    If the Maxima gets AWD, I'd take that over the G35 since it would be cheaper. An AWD G35 would be over my price limit.

    Where's the Legacy Blitzen when you need it?

    Forester actually won lots of awards: comparos at C&D, top ratings from CR, quality awards from Strategic Vision, APEAL awards from JD Power, plus it just won a best owner loyalty award for small SUVs. And that's just in the USA.

    Thanks for those models sites, but still no Forester. I've now searched four such sites.

    -juice
  • ramiller1ramiller1 Member Posts: 124
    is the same one they have over in Europe only they call it the S Turbo. Car magazine in Britain calls it "deeply mad and insanely fast." If we get anything like it over here for 2003 it's going to--Woo-Hoo!-- kick some SUV butt.

    The Forester did win some consumer awards, but only C&D gave it any real recognition of the top 4 road mags. You won't find a full road test in back issues of Road & Track or Automobile, and Motor Trend unbelievably had a, IMO, trumped-up comparo with a Honda CR-V and the Honda won--really lost a lot of respect for MT after that one. The Honda cost less and had a picnic table but that's about all you could say for it--the Forester S creamed it in the other categories.
    --RA
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    There are various incarnations of the turbo Forester. Some models get only 168hp, but they make good low-end torque and easily outrun the US spec 2.5l. I think others range from 215hp all the way up to 250hp for the top one in Japan.

    Can you imagine 250hp in a Forester?

    My crystal ball says the 2004 Forester will get a 2.5l light pressure turbo, for good torque that can still tow and off-road.

    -juice
  • ramiller1ramiller1 Member Posts: 124
    don't know about you but think i would become a complete nuisance to society driving around in something like that :)
    Sure would be a good time before they carted me off though.
    Any spy shots or artist pics of the new Forester on the web? Can't wait to see it.
    --RA
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Member Posts: 1,676
    I've pushed my sedan a bit on speed and I can't say that I've experienced any handling problems. I did a quick search of our records to see if there are similar comments and I don't see any. Was it the feel of the steering or the feel of the vehicle being pulled by the wind? How windy was it?

    Patti
  • cinosweivecinosweive Member Posts: 166
    Actually, high speed stability is what I like about the WRX. In my test drives it was the only vehicle that still felt attached to the road at interstate velocities. The CRV felt downright uncomfortable w/ itself at anything over 50 mph. The jetta, even w/ sport suspension felt, like many cars - like it was skimming over the road surface (handling was still OK though). The WRX always felt as if it was firmly attached to the highway. Never drove it in wind though.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    If it feels unstable, have the alignment checked. I'd also check if the wheels are balanced properly, and maybe go ahead and rotate them now.

    -juice
  • ramiller1ramiller1 Member Posts: 124
    and only one time in 5k mi. did our WRX wagon (which sits even higher than the sedan) get pushed around any and that was on an extremely gusty day.
    Our Forester doesn't really have any problems either. The pancake boxer engine means you have a lower center of gravity and my feeling is Subies actually do better than most vehicles in this regard.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I feel x-winds in my trooper at 90mph+ but with that I have a 1.5" lift so there is more air going under it + the X-section of the Trooper has the aerodynamics of a brick wall! With my XT6 which has a slightly better x-section (ok a lot better X-section) I never feel anything even in wind up to 115mph. Definitely sounds like tire-pressure, alignment, balancing?

    -mike
  • purduealum91purduealum91 Member Posts: 285
    I see Automobile magdid the right thing, but what gives with Car & Driver?
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    That's how C&D rated them. I'm sure Ford pumps more $ into the advertising pockets of C&D.

    -mike
  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    I wasn't aware C & D even had car of the year awards. They do have 10 best pick of which the WRX was included. Motor Trend is the one that chose the T-bird over the WRX for car of the year.

    Stephen
  • WarpDriveWarpDrive Member Posts: 506
    Car and Driver picks the ten best cars. And WRX was one of them. Motor Trend picked the T bird as Car of the Year. The Motor Trend is one poor excuse for a car magazine IMO
  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    "The Motor Trend is one poor excuse for a car magazine IMO"

    I totally agree!

    Stephen
  • rsinger2rsinger2 Member Posts: 19
    Looks like I'll be joining you WRX owners, delivery expected next week - DESPITE all the complaints I've seen about myriad CEL events and grinding clutches. Ah, what the hell.

    Though there will be no towing, I need to carry bikes and boards. Anybody put a hitch on their WRX sedan? How about cost, bought from whom, how'd the install go, how it looks when done....Thanks.

    Lastly - OK, so these things redline at 7000. As a matter of course, do you wind these things out (post break-in, of course) or shift well below redline? Any philosophies regarding shift point out there?

    - Bob
  • pattim3pattim3 Member Posts: 533
    Welcome to the fold. We do not offer a hitch for the WRX Sedan (yet)OEM anyway. I hope that doesn't deter you. I've had no CEL lights or clutch issues in my test vehicle. If I did, I would tell you because I have a reputation to live up to!

    Welcome and call us at 1-800-SUBARU3 if you need any assistance in the future!

    Patti
  • rsinger2rsinger2 Member Posts: 19
    Looks like I'll be joining you WRX owners, delivery expected next week - DESPITE all the complaints I've seen about myriad CEL events and grinding clutches. Ah, what the hell.

    Though there will be no towing, I need to carry bikes and boards. Anybody put a hitch on their WRX sedan? How about cost, bought from whom, how'd the install go, how it looks when done....Thanks.

    Lastly - OK, so these things redline at 7000. As a matter of course, do you wind these things out (post break-in, of course) or shift well below redline? Any philosophies regarding shift point out there?

    - Bob
  • thecatthecat Member Posts: 535


    Bob, the answer to your question is .. yes. When you wanna go like a bat .. you wind it, if you're just crusing no. In normal traffic I typically shift at around 3.5k. The important thing with a small displacement engine is not to "lug" it. You'll do more harm below 2k than above 6k. (mho)

    Oh yeah, Jiffyhitch makes a trailer hitch for the WRX.
    - Hutch
  • francophilefrancophile Member Posts: 667
    Try having the alignment checked -- front AND rear. The dealer should do this for you for free since the car is so new. My Legacy was terrible in wind at highway speeds; turns out it came from the factory with the wheels toed out. Now that the alignment is right the car is a rock.

    Good luck,
    -wdb
  • twrxtwrx Member Posts: 647
    No grinding clutch or CEL in 9000 miles with WRX

    TWRX
  • thecatthecat Member Posts: 535
    Sorry, I must have had a brain cramp. Drawtite is the manf. of the hitch. It is sold by Jiffyhitch locally.

    - Hutch
  • rshastarshasta Member Posts: 2
    Thanks all, for your input. Francophile, thanks for the "true-life" info about your Legacy. I didn't think the factory would let a car pass inspection with a bad alignment, but I guess anything is possible.
  • WarpDriveWarpDrive Member Posts: 506
    can be definitely off on a new car. Because the car is new, and things haven't been fully broken-in, the car might leave the factory aligned and be off by the time it is driven for a few weeks.
  • brekkebrekke Member Posts: 304
    Could you explain your "lug" comment and does this apply to the 2.5L engine? Sometimes I keep the RPMs low intentionally because I'm trying to squeeze out as much MPG as possible.
  • thecatthecat Member Posts: 535
    1st, the following is just my opinion. Some people see the world differently. As a friend reminded me "some people don't like chocolate ice-cream".
    Personally, I think that's insane.

    I think the "LUG" comment applies to any 4 cyl engine, to some extent. The 2.5 is a rather large 4 cyl and has pretty good low end torque so at low RPM's it is capable of acceleration. The same can't be said for the 2.0 in the WRX. At low RPM's the 2.0 has very little torque and struggles to move the car along under a load such as up a hill. This is not to say that simply maintaining a constant speed on a flat surface (or downhill) at low RPM's is bad. However, when you step on the gas and the car seems unwilling to comply, it's a good sign that you need to downshift. When leaving my driveway I am confronted with a hill for the 1st 1/2 mile. Because the speed limit is 40mph, I never get out of 3rd gear until I crest the hill.
    - Hutch
  • hazdazhazdaz Member Posts: 56
    Well, I never thought I would say I own a Subaru, but...
    I'm taking delivery on my Silver WRX tomorrow. ;)
    Now all I have to do is 'learn' how to drive a 5-speed - only REAL experience I have with a standard is with my motorcycle, and a few brief drives I have taken in friends' cars (ofcourse that was years ago), oh, and ofcourse with testdriving a few new cars in the past 6 months.

    After I get more experience with a 5-speed, the modifications will start.
    I think the WRX is not a reallly 'beautyiful' car - so, I figure the way to go with this car is to 'pimp it out'. In other words: Large, wild wing; Skirt (painted a dark grey to offset the silver of the rest of the car); possibly dual-exhaust (not too loud, just a nice rumble); some interior mods (such as possibly a sunroof, and new 'indiglo'-gauge cluster - I really do no like the 'carbon-fiber' trim that the dealer was trying to sell me).

    I also do have to mention that I am disapointed in the shade of yellow that Subaru decided to used - WAY to pale. Should have gone with a nice taxi-car or school-bus yellow, then I would definitely bought a yellow one.

    Anyways, those are my thoughts.
    Any specific comments on my plans to modding the car or tips on learning a 5-speed would be apprectiated.

    -HAZDAZ
  • dsm6dsm6 Member Posts: 813
    I, for one, couldn't understand a word he said. Makes it kind of hard to reply.

    Seriously, though - I test drove a 5-speed WRX the other day. The salesperson encouraged me to rev it up past 3500 to get the boost on. I've seen some discussion of shifting patterns lately, and some mention of not shifting too early so as to not lug the engine.

    Driving around town, with fuel economy in mind, I'd be tempted to shift before 3500 rpm - besides, old habits die hard. I'm wondering if this would drop the rpms too low, thus lugging the engine. The sales person insisted I rev it up, so I just had to. Bummer :-). So I never got a chance to see how it drives with a more relaxed attitude. Any thoughts on the matter from owners?
  • dop50dop50 Member Posts: 162
    I don't understand?? I think that's what 1ST, 2ND, and 3RD gears are in there to keep you from doing. Geez, LEARN to drive a STICK! You're not supposed to change gears at IDLE! I've driven standard shift cars and trucks since I was 15, that's 37 years! Anyone remember the old 3 speed column shifters?? Hehe! (The GOOD OL' DAYS!). I have to admit however, the turbo deal is a new experience. It's a little hard to get used to the RPM's wanting to run away while you shift, this happens at higher RPM. I'm used the rpm's dropping as soon as you stop accelerating to shift. With the turbo, it tends to stay constant or even revs a little, so be careful at the upper end. Release the accelerator just slightly before dissengaging the clutch to shift.

    dsm6... Who did the test driving? You or the salesman? I thought that's why you test drive a vehicle, to find out if it does what you want. Hehe! If you want to find out how it does at low rpm's, let the wife drive it, then when it's your turn, give it hell! :) Just funn'n! :)

    Man! these cars are fun!!!
  • corkfishcorkfish Member Posts: 537
    One of the reasons I'm reluctant to buy this car is the pimp factor. I know there's an element out there that will put spoilers all over the WRX. Just like the California kids that ruined the ability of an adult to own a Honda Civic for example.
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    ...about arguing on the Internet and running in the Special Olympics. Contain yourself.

    Ed
  • dsm6dsm6 Member Posts: 813
    Ouch! Sorry I asked. ;-) I can't help it, it was too much fun to rev it up. If I owned it, I wouldn't be revving it up all the time - maybe that's an indication that I should look for another car?.
    Depending upon gear ratios, power bands, intent of the powertrain designers, etc., shifting at relatively low rpm can be no big deal - with others, it drops the rpms too low for the car to have any power - perhaps not literally "lugging" the engine, but with similar results - with still others, you can even skip gears in order to save fuel. As I said, it depends upon the details of the powertrain. Just thought I'd check with the experts.

    You're right though - the best way is to take another test drive - poor me, having to drive it again.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I've seen that look on all kinds of cars, not just civics. I know quite a few adults who have em though w/o boy racer looks. I wouldn't pass on any car if it had performance. Like I said when the WRX first came out even if it were pea green with brown interior if it performed well I'd buy it! :)

    -mike
  • hazdazhazdaz Member Posts: 56
    I have problems with your statement about "boy racers". While I can not comment on how it is in California or where ever you live, but around here, there are quite a few modded Civics, but I do not see where that would affect the "average" Civic owner. Looking out into the parking lot of my work, I see a dark-red Civic that in no way, shape or form screems "fast" or "modified" or anything of the sort. Its just an average (and fairly boring) looking car. When I look at that car, I definitly do NOT put it in the same league as a lowered/chrome-rimmed/body-kitted/tacky Civic that you sometimes see buzzing around in some parts of the neighood (and I unfortunately do mean "BUZZING' with those annoyingly loud mufflers).

    The WRX is similar to the Civic in having a fairly bland exterior and interior, but differs with the Civic in ACTUALLY being fast (oh, yeah, and the AWD is cool too). I personally can't wait to take delivery of mine tomorrow, and definitly plan on "pimpin'" it out some in the springtime. Nothing too tacky or outrageous - but definitly something to seperate it from the 50 other silver/grey cars out in the parking lot, and also to seperate it from all the other weak-engined small cars out there (like the Civic). If you are not into customizing your car, then DON'T - a stock WRX is still a sweet little car (atleast i HOPE it is - won't REALLY know until after I get it into my own hands). I just don't see how me putting a wing and maybe a ground-effects kit on my car affects your decision to buy a car if you like the stock car.
  • dsm6dsm6 Member Posts: 813
    I have no problems with show - just another form of personal expression. Doesn't affect me any. Furthermore it's like art (in fact some of it really is art) in that its very subjective.

    That said, I prefer go to show, if I'm to have one or the other. Both show and go would be ideal. The WRX has enough go for me to ignore the show factor - It's looks are growing on me though.
  • dop50dop50 Member Posts: 162
    Sorry, too much fun to resist. :)

    How can you say in the same paragraph that it's too much fun to rev it up, and then say if you owned it, you wouldn't rev it up all the time?? I guess now you're gonna say, "all the time" is the key part of the statement. Hehe! Let me tell you, if you buy it, you WILL rev it up, every chance you get. Like you said first, "it's too much fun to rev it up"!

    corkfish,
    Who cares if some of the young'uns want to dress up their rides, it's good for the economy!

    If they can afford it, and the wife & kids don't go hungry, go for it!!!
  • hazdazhazdaz Member Posts: 56
    Around here, your lucky if ya don't get pulled over going only 75mph on the highway or around 45-50 around town. This state (and America in general) is WAY to strict about their speedlimit laws and such (sometimes I wonder if we live in a police-state) - which really sucks when you have a lead-foot and own a fast/fun car. Which brings me back to having atleast alittle bit of "Show" to offset the lack of ALLOWABLE "Go".
    Oh, and I think there is a HUGE difference between customizing a car WITH TASTE, versus throwing whatever you have on a car and making it look TACKY.
  • esqknightesqknight Member Posts: 78
    While car appearance is among the most subjective of issues (some folks love the looks of a car while others hate), to weigh in on the show versus go debate, one of things that most drew me to the WRX is the car's sleeper look. (No spoiler on my car). I think one of the best way to avoid getting a ticket is _not_ to look like you are driving a fast car..plus it is fun on the occasion to blow away a "sports car" with a humble looking sedan.

    Just one man's opinion...
    Eric
  • ramiller1ramiller1 Member Posts: 124
    Hazdaz--congratulations on your new Rex--I know you are going to enjoy it regardless of how you decide to gussy it up. :)

    Here are a few tips from an old pro (me--and that's more old than pro, but experience has taught me a few things)

    1) Make clean shifts--in other words, best not to use the shift knob as a hand rest because this sets up unwanted vibrations and is hard on the transmission. When you go to shift just make the change and then take your hand away--don't leave it on there unless you have to make another shift soon after.

    2) Try not to use downshifting to brake the car--you see this in lots of racing movies but really is very hard on the tranny. Use the brake pedal to slow your speed and downshift when you know you are in easy range of the gear you want to change down to.

    3) Try not to jam the tranny into first gear too fast from neutral when the light turns green at a stop--you might get the clutch grind others here have mentioned--just put it in easy. I have done this myself and still get a graunch once in a while if I'm not careful.

    4) Don't shift into reverse when you are doing 80 on the freeway--ok, sorry about that one, I like to kid around.

    These are just a few basics--I'm sure other guys have other ones and know a lot more tricks than I do--heel and toe shifts for one thing--never have tried that one but it's supposed to be fun.

    Good luck and happy WRX-ing!
    --RA
  • ramiller1ramiller1 Member Posts: 124
    if you don't care about your Rex lasting more than 18 months, just disregard everything in the previous post and drive like Bonzai Freddy.
    I want to make mine last the next 20 years, so have to drive like an old lady. ;)
  • wrxguywrxguy Member Posts: 51
    what a term :) okay dice from the rearview! and dingleballs around the windows and mudflaps with chrome outlines of shapely women? Play some Barry White loud to distortion. Wear a Big hat and drive life Bonzai Freddy!!!!!!!!!
  • ramiller1ramiller1 Member Posts: 124
    everything you described plus where can I get me one of those full-length fur pimp coats? Look out, dude, the WRX gang is going up-town tonight! :)
  • dop50dop50 Member Posts: 162
    The dark shades, and the fancy hat with the feather! Oh, and the gold necklace. :)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    It's a slippery slope, but I can see why people want to customize their car. It becomes theirs, unique. Personally, I add accessories that peform some function, but to each his own.

    I suggest trying a local i Club meet, and going from there. Look at what other have done to get ideas, then be creative. Start at iclub.com and look for local chapters.

    You could get looks and function by having your brake rotors drilled and slotted, plus coated to shine a certain color (silver or gold) and prevent rust. While they're at it, lots of folks also paint their calipers. Not my cup of tea, but always something you may want to do, and it costs almost nothing.

    Wheels are the #1 way to change the looks. Headlights kits are popular, too, to match the Rally car's looks. The bi-plane spoiler gives it the replica look, too, but get ready to open the wallet - $500 plus the paint job, plus installation.

    Stick shift tips? Always use 1st from a start. Use 2nd for a 90 degree turn, 3rd for highway on and off ramps. Those rules-of-thumb can be helpful when learning.

    Let's keep an open mind folks. Not everyone is the same, and wouldn't it be boring if we were? Diversity is the spice of life.

    Congrats on the purchase, please let us know when you pick it up.

    -juice
  • esqknightesqknight Member Posts: 78
    I'll probably be picking up my WRX this week or next week, and am looking for a check-list of things to look at / and do before accepting delivery. I know that there are comprehensive lists on this site and many others, but I don't know how realistic they are...like checking that the lugnuts on the wheels are properly tightened.

    Thanks...
    Eric
  • hazdazhazdaz Member Posts: 56
    OK, well my silver WRX is sitting outside my Condo right now. ;)
    I am very happy for the most part. I really do have to get used to driving a 5-speed - seems like I am going along beautifully, when -bang- all of a sudden I stall it out at a light (or more commonly, in reverse).
    I Even had a strange experience this morning, I was at a store, and the engine wouldn't turn-over. I knwo that the clutch obviously has to be pushed-in, but even then it wouldn't start. It finally started, then OFCOURSE I stall it coming out of the parking spot - and then again, it won't start again (happened a total of 3 seperate times that it wouldn't start while trying to get back onto the street). Now, i know that starting an engine puts the most strain on a battery, is it possibly that since I had stalled it a few times before that I had almost drained the battery?? Seems kinda cheesy if the battery gets drained THAT fast. I noticed on the 2nd time that it wouldn't start that the foglights were on, I turned then off, and tried it again, and it started right up. Also, could it be that an engine can not start with the brake also depressed (ofcourse the parking IS on)? And whats up with the headlights comming on everytime the car is started (whether the lightswitch is on or not).
    Sorry for asking so many questions, its just that that experience kinda freaked me out. And ofcourse since like 90-95% of the cars in the US are sold with automatics, its more than difficult to find someone that even knows how to drive a standard, let alone can expain it clearly. I'm trying to learn to keep the 'craft' alive ;)
    OK, well besides THAT experience, I like the car alot. While definitly NOT a 'sexy' car, I like the looks overall (the steeringwheel and seats are very sweet). The standard Subaru WRX floormats definitly have to go, and I am looking to get a nice mat for the trunk (you can tell they skimped out on the sound deadening materials in the trunk since roadnoise creaps in from there).

    -HAZDAZ
  • WarpDriveWarpDrive Member Posts: 506
    The not-starting thing seems a bit odd though. If the car was sitting at the dealer for a while, the battery might have been partially discharged.
  • hazdazhazdaz Member Posts: 56
    I am HOPING its a 1 time deal, but really it already happened 3 times in that parking lot this morning. Something like that definitly does not inspire confidence in their new purchase (and in my case, being a little nervious doesn't help in the shifting department either). If it doesn't happen again, then great - I put a bunch of miles after on the car to try to recharge the battery as much as possible - ofcourse I am just ASSUMING that it was the battery being drained down that caused it not to start.
  • bedabibedabi Member Posts: 149
    Try this:
    Before turning the engine over while starting, turn the ignition key 3/4 ways for a while to let the fuel pump work into the engine. It really helps on cold days.
    On top of the steering column is a "parking light". Apparently, it's there as a requirement for Euro-spec cars. I've no idea why. This is often left on, and it can drain the battery. It's happened to me before after it was switched on accidentally while cleaning the car.
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