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  • jstandeferjstandefer Member Posts: 805
    Waking up this morning to find a burning Pentagon and falling WTC was absolutely shocking! I absolutely cannot believe anyone has the balls to hit us like this!! All I can say is thank God we don't have Clinton in office!! I am positive George W. will retaliate full-scale like Reagan and his father before him. We must lash out quickly, accurately, and deadly to show the world that you cannot and will not do this to the United States of America and live to tell about it. The Clinton era of soft foreign policy is over and we must regain the respect we have lost and put fear back into the eyes of any who would dare do such a thing!!

    San Diego has been in a state of lock-down all day. We have the majority of the Navy's Pacific Fleet stationed here among eight bases in a twenty mile radius. By eight this morning, all Naval and Marine Corps aircraft were fully armed and airborn. Ships deployed. The nuclear submarines put out to sea. The aircraft carriers were already at sea. All active duty military were called in and the bases locked-down. The majority of San Diego's industry and commercial sectors cater to the Defense Department. In other words, most everyone did not work yet the streets were empty. It was freaky...

    My heart goes out to all of the victims, their families, and friends. Everyone, be careful. I hope it is over, but you never know. And I would gladly go back in the Navy and personally program one of the Tomahawk cruise missiles...
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    If this forum can be viewed as a microcosm of the American people (and others -- thanks to our Canadian and other friends here) -- and I think it can be -- then we ARE binding together as a nation in what President Bush last night called "a quiet, unyielding anger."

    I couldn't have said it better myself, although I might not have said "quiet." I've already heard some not-so-quiet remarks from citizens, including us here. It stirs my heart and brings a tear to this big guy's eye to read the posts you all made last night. We may be black, white, Republican or Democrat -- but we're Americans and we face this tragedy unanimously.

    I stopped by Wal-Mart on the way home from work yesterday and picked up a brand-new stars & stripes which is now flying proudly from my porch. I left the lights on all night so I wouldn't have to take it down. (We all know our flag etiquette, don't we?) This morning I was proud to see the cab of a tractor-trailer flying a large American flag on the expressway I take to work.

    As an American citizen and taxpayer, I'm going to hold Mr. Bush to his remarks and pray for every promise to come to pass:

    "Make no mistake. The United States will hunt down and punish those responsible for these cowardly acts. ...

    "We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them."

    God Bless the USA!

    Meade
    One of many million proud, angry U.S. citizens
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    I too hope someone pays dearly for this. I cannot understand how anyone can harbor the kind of hatred that would allow them to commit such an act. But let us remember that the people (if you can even call them people) who did this are individuals. Let's not allow ourselves to hold hatred over entire groups or races of people. And let us also remember that those responsible for this horrendous act probably invoked the name of "God" on their side. There are people from many walks of life (ethnic) and of many religions or lack there of, who contribute to these pages. Please keep these things in mind.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    It is very important to remember that Town Hall has very fine community members of varied ethnic backgrounds and religious affiliations. And we also need to remember that criminals committed these acts. Painting any religion or ethnic group with the same brush as the criminal minds that are behind what has happened strikes me as patently wrong.

    Another thing we need to keep in mind -- Town Hall really isn't the appropriate place for extended discussion on who did what yesterday, and what needs to be done in retaliation.

    We all have been - and will continue to be - affected by what has transpired in the last 24 hours. I think it is appropriate to express our sadness for the victims and their families and our concern for each other. But please, let's leave the political debate for a more appropriate forum than Town Hall.

    Thanks.

    Pat
    Host
    Sedans Message Board
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Member Posts: 1,265
    Ok, I get the ""painting" with a "broad brush" thing, I agree it's wrong to group people of a certain ethnic background together with the criminals responsible for these heinous crimes.

    However, YOU are wrong in trying to curb peoples feelings TODAY. People NEED to vent. Pat, you are out of line. Delete the posts if you must, nevertheless, today is far from normal at Edmunds.com Town Hall. If you represent all the hosts and Edmunds.com Management, then I suggest you close Town Hall down, for a couple of days. We can grieve for the victims, however it is understandable that folks here, will also express their outrage and frustrations?

    Respectfully,
    Larry
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    I'm with you Larry. Our lives in the USA have forever changed. There is no business as usual anymore. Give us some time. Give us some space. :(
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    I don't want to delete any posts, and I do want to let people vent - that is exactly what I have been doing.

    There have been a couple of statements here that ARE grouping specific backgrounds to what has happened, rather than recognizing we are all individuals and responsible for our own actions.

    My point is that is entirely inappropriate here, as are some other extreme political statements. And because I want people to be able to vent, I am not deleting anything - I just hope folks will help me stick to that by not continuing to post this kind of thing.

    Again - let's support and show our caring for each other. Certainly we can talk about being angry. Making broad racist sorts of statements must not continue, however. Town Hall has fine members of all sorts of backgrounds who would never endorse nor engage in any thing resembling what happened yesterday. Those folks have feelings, too.

    Larry, I'm really not sure why you are jumping all over me - send me an email if you want to continue to tell me I am out of line; arguing with me here doesn't solve anything either.

    Pat
    Host
    Sedans Message Board
  • bluong1bluong1 Member Posts: 1,927
    Alex,

    the stock Pro engine has LOW compression (9.1:1 for 1.8L and 2L, and 9:1 for 1.6L). Only from 10:1, it would be considered high compression engine. I don't know about your user manual, but mine said something like:

    "Your car will perform best with following fuel:
    Unleaded, with antiknock index 87 (R+M)/2 method, 91 RON or above. Oxigenated fuel (gas with alcohol) with less than 10% of ethanol is allowed. Mixture with methanol can damage some parts of the engine."

    Bruno
  • grubbs1grubbs1 Member Posts: 69
    As I was heading out for a meeting in San Diego yesterday, I heard the tragic news. My first reaction was to get in an F16 and let me kick some a**!

    However, killing more innocent people and causing more hatred towards the US doesn't make much sense. Finding the small group of cowards will take time. But once found, it will be time for justice!! However, I do agree with the President: those that harbor the criminals will also be treated as such!

    As always with all tragedies, we need to pick-up the pieces and try to get back to normality (it's easy for me to say as I live in the middle of nowhere and don't have any connections to the northeast).

    OK, lets start out with something simple: I like raised white letter performance tires (it shows my age). Once it's time for new tires for my '01 Pro, that is what I will look for. What are your thoughts on that?

    Gees, what trivial things we discuss in light of so many problems in this world.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    I think I can put your feelings and Larry's into perspective, and offer a solution.

    Yesterday, the people of this country were attacked violently. Thousands of our brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, husbands, wives and friends were killed. Many thousands more were injured. These people were black, white, hispanic, and of countless other ethnicities. They were Republicans, Democrats and independents. They were middle-aged, retired, and some were too young to know why their lives were being ripped away.

    Whoever dealt this horror upon us had no regard for the backgrounds, beliefs or conditions of their victims.

    I think it is natural, barely 24 hours following this tragedy, to feel an anger that has no specific target ... as President Bush said last night, "a quiet, unyielding anger." We Americans have been violated as a country. We are angry, and we're not quite sure yet where to direct that anger.

    Yes, I agree that Edmunds is not the place to stir racial hatred. In our own country, you are presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt. Let's remember that as we vent our feelings about yesterday in this forum that Edmunds has graciously provided.

    Let's use our energies to support our President in any way we can in assisting the victims of this tragedy and the search for the responsible party. We can start by giving our blood. Then, let's support the actions that our country will surely take to rid the world of the perpetrators of this terrorism.

    My next posting will be about MAPP II.

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    I have issued a lengthy e-mail to the 11 Town Hallers who have expressed an interest in attending MAPP II: The Sequel, on Saturday, October 6, 2001 at a park in Northern Virginia.

    BTW, for the newbies here, MAPP II = "Mid-Atlantic Protege Picnic II." We had our first one last fall, with about 10 people and five Proteges in attendance. I think we just might double that this year. We've reserved a very nice picnic shelter for an ENTIRE DAY this time.

    If you would like to attend this sure-to-be-stellar attraction, drop me an e-mail at ...

    mdaffron@the-rma.org

    ... and I'll provide all the details. Warning: You will be expected to bring some food and contribute a few bucks (no more than $10 a head) toward the shelter rental.

    24 days to go! ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM!!!

    Meade
  • duh_sterduh_ster Member Posts: 102
    hey everybody...
    the interior cover for my sunroof is dirty...i imagine it's from the repaint job they did on my roof. it just looks like white powder...how can i get in that tiny space between the cover and the actual sunroof glass?? if i open my sunroof, it automatically pulls the interior cover open with it. is there any way to bypass this without breaking the interior cover? since my pro is black, the white is quite noticeable and i wanted to get rid of it asap...
    thanx
    'duh'
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    :)

    Meadeball
  • laurakatlaurakat Member Posts: 69
    This was all over the local news here in MN. Rumours of over $4 to $5 per gallon because of the events from yesturday. I went to fill our van last night around 10:30 pm at the station near my house. Normally, this station is very quiet and doesn't get alot of business. Well, I waited in line for 30 minutes to fill up at $1.69 per gallon to find out they ran out! I drove to another station about 15 minutes south and filled up at $1.79. I heard this morning that some stations in southern MN are already over $4 per gallon. I'm glad I bought an economy car!

    Mike
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    It's local panic. I did the same thing last night here in Richmond, VA, not 90 miles from the Pentagon, and drove to work this morning feeling foolish as the gas prices were the same as they'd been last night. They're saying on the news here that some stations panicked last night when people rushed out to buy gas, and feared their own supplies might run out. Hence the price hikes. Just wait -- they'll go back down really soon.

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    I just finished reading the last 24 hours of posts on the Edmunds "hot topics" list. I'm a 36-year-old moose of a guy but I had tears in my eyes as I read posts from Australians, Koreans, Japanese, Brits, and others, expressing their condolences and support in this time of tragedy in the U.S.

    Edmunds is an international fellowship, and today the kind of fellowship it provides is shining like a beacon. Let our governments say the fighting words ... it's us, the down-home residents of these countries, who are embracing each other now and offering words of support.

    I'm sure you've seen this as you've monitored all your topics today, Pat. Everybody else, take five and read some of this. It'll touch your heart!

    And to all of you who don't have an American flag flying by your posts ... I am certain I speak for all of my American friends when I say, thank you. Thank you.

    Meade
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    Duh, I'll bet that the white stuff you're seeing is wax residue. I'm not sure how to clean it though...I don't have the sunroof. How does the new paint job look?

    Gas prices here in Calgary have not fluctuated at all (yet!). Hopefully the gas price gouging does not come up here.

    PF
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Thank you - you said it very well.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    I heard just a few minutes ago on ABC that there's a guy in Oklahoma City who jacked his prices up to $5 a gallon last night. He says he heard from his supplier that there was no way to know when he would ever get any more, and that's why he did it.

    Apparently today he found out supply is not a problem, so he has issued a public apology, and is offering refunds to all of his customers.

    Wow.
  • duh_sterduh_ster Member Posts: 102
    not sure yet...they have my car now and will be dropping it off later 2day...i asked them to clean it out, but i'm almost sure they'll forget!
    'duh'
  • hondaaccessoryhondaaccessory Member Posts: 74
    "Looking at CarsDirect.com, I see that the MSRP for a basic ES is $15,575 not incl dest charges.
    But CarsDirect is selling it for $13,790.
    So the car has "depreciated" about 12 percent before I've even picked a color."

    I think there are special rebates running on the 2001's to get the lower price.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    Of the four new Mazdas I've purchased between September 1991 and May 2000, I've never bought one that didn't have a rebate from $750 to $1,500 on it.

    Meade
  • maltbmaltb Member Posts: 3,572
  • twistinmelontwistinmelon Member Posts: 90
    If you read the message in context I think you will see I was trying to make a point to someone on the board comparing the current trade-in value of their vehicle to MSRP, which I found to be a less than useful means of calculating the depreciation percentage.

    I thought it was more useful to compare current value to actual selling price. Otherwise, a car has "depreciated" before you drive it off the lot.

    Not as absurd a point as I think you perceived it to be.

    And, yes, the rebate is part of the reason the car isn't selling at MSRP.

    twist
  • syd968syd968 Member Posts: 27
    I'm in the process of buying a protege that is over 500 miles away from where I live; so obviously I have not driven the car or visually inspected it. The dealer is going to send me the paperwork and wants me to sign the papers and send them back to him. My question is: Should I wait to give him the paperwork once I am there and have looked over the car? If I send him the paperwork and then see something I don't like on the car ( like a bad scratch or ding ) do I have any way out of buying the car?
    Thanks for any advice or personal experiences!
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    IMO, I would wait to actually see the vehicle. Signing the papers is the same as signing a contract. It is binding.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I would agree with Pro_fan. Once you sign that contract, the car is yours. You might add something to the contract saying you can visually inspect the car before delivery and get any imperfections fixed. But the best way is to see the car before buying it and signing the papers.

    Depreciation: I got my car under the S-plan. It was $18,500 or so out the door with taxes and tags. That just happens to be the MSRP on the sticker, but that was my total out the door price. I paid $17,500 for the car. It's now worth about $11,500 after 7 months, a couple scratches, and 15,300 miles. I am not happy to say the least.
  • syd968syd968 Member Posts: 27
    Thanks for your input. I definately want to see the car before I sign the papers, hopefully this will not be a problem with the dealer.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    I would think that if the dealer really presses you to sign the papers, than there may be a reason (i.e. there may be something wrong with the car). You're obviously ready to make the deal. He shouldn't have to worry about you seeing the car.
  • duh_sterduh_ster Member Posts: 102
    if u DO sign the papers before seeing the vehicle, make sure u have a way "out" of the contract written directly into the contract. my dealer let me write "pending the satisfaction of the purchaser" on the deposit form...i also put conditions stating "mileage must be below XXX", etc...but i agree with those above: if u can, see the car first!
  • twistinmelontwistinmelon Member Posts: 90
    http://www.motortrend.com/sept01/cc/cc_f.html


    Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the Civic, Sentra, or Corolla. Wish they would have thrown a Pro into the mix.


    twist

  • syd968syd968 Member Posts: 27
    Thanks for the additional advice. I'll let you know what they say.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    What the H-E-Double hockey sticks?? Why is it that the Pro is left out of so many reviews and comparisons? I don't get it. This article would have been perfect to showcase the Protege.
  • syd968syd968 Member Posts: 27
    They hand out that article at Nissan dealerships. I test drove a sentra se w / performance package w/auto transmission; a civic ex sedan w/manual and a civic lx w / manual and a protege LX 2.0 w / manual. The corolla doesn't intrest me.

    I found very little difference between the LX and EX model w/ the Civic's. The civic's do nothing wrong but they don't excite me and adding additional equipement like alloy rims and fog lights cost too much. I do think the civic's had the nicest gear shifting; very solid. The Sentra is a mixed bag with good acceleration and a great stereo. The inside materials seemed cheaper and controls were less intuitive to find, and road noise was a little more pronounced. I wish I could have tested a Sentra w / manual transmission, but I don't think that would change my opinion. I test drove the protege first. I liked the way it looks and feels the best. It was much more fun to drive than the civic's and it looks alot better than the sentra (IMO). Hopefully I'll own a Protege ES soon.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Member Posts: 805
    I am not particularly happy about my new tires, and I certainly wish I had gotten the Nitto NT450's again or spent the extra money on some good Dunlop or Pirelli tires. I bought a set of Yokohama YK450 205/50HR15 tires. These tires are sold exclusively at Discount Tire/America's Tire stores, and are a slightly more performance oriented version of the AVID T4's.

    They are definitely more comfortable and quiet. The ride isn't as stiff and is definitely noticeable while going over railroad tracks. Interior road roar has been seriously damped. And they look decent and have a super high treadwear rating. Those are the points I like about the tires...

    My Protege no longer feels like a Protege. It feels like the entire suspension has been lifted out and a Corolla suspension put in its place. Initial turn-in response is pitiful. With the OEM Potenza's and the Nitto's, the vehicle responded immediately to steering wheel inputs. Now, there is a definite lag between input and the vehicle actually changing direction. The harder and faster the input, the more lag there is. Freeway transfer ramps that I used to easily take at 75mph on the Potenza's and 80mph on the Nitto's are now scary propositions, even at 60mph which is 5mph below the recommended speeds. These tires suck!!! You can feel the sidewalls just rolling over like butter and the vehicle sways back and forth as the tires attempt to resemble the shape of a tire.

    I can't remember who (and I'm not going back to look) kept insisting that the Yokohama AVID T4's would be a great replacement tire. If these YK450's are truly more performance oriented than the AVID T4's, then I certainly cannot imagine how lousy the AVID T4's are. DO NOT BUY THESE TIRES OR THE AVID T4s!! Someone else mentioned the Kumho ECSTA Supra something or other. A lot of the online reviews of those tires resemble my complaints and I certainly would not recommend those either.

    Hey Meade... remember my love/hate relationship? Guess where it's going to be now! (But, these tires are certainly not the fault of the car.)
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    Edmunds.com has the same rules Talk City chat rooms have, and ethinic remarks were not allowed.

    During the "aerial convincing" of Serbs in Kosovo and Yugoslavia, two people came online, one said he was Sebian and the other said he was in Kosovo. The remarks between those two were not kind and, especially about American pilots by the Sebian. I let them vent for a while and eventually kicked the Serb out.The Kosovan was an adult male, the Serb a teenager. ;)

    This is the Internet and we have to remember the world can come here just as easily as anywhere else.

    For my part on the off-topic remarks, let me just say that when the perpetrators are found out I know the sounds heard in THAT country will be ZOOM ZOOM's I hope we never hear overhead at night. ;)

    Maybe one will have this message painted on the side: From America With Love! a balistic greeting card so to speak. :D

    On the Net, you have to be discrete when you greet, you have to be polite when you BITE!

    fowler3
  • twistinmelontwistinmelon Member Posts: 90
    I sat in the Sentra SE 2.0, but didn't get to actually drive it. Doesn't really matter at this point, since it's being discontinued. Only options now are to get the 1.8 liter GXE with a sportier suspension, wheels, and facia (I think it's called the Symmetry package or something) or go all the way up to the SE-R, which would make my insurance salesman just a little too happy for my comfort. In any case, the Sentra had the smallest back seat of any of the Protege's serious competitors, and the front seats on the SE were so dramatically bolstered that the center of my back didn't touch the seat.

    I think you can count on the Pro getting into any future comparos, if my neighborhood is any indication. We've gone from none to three in about 2 months. 1 LX, 1 LX 2.0, and one very sharp (glad I don't have to keep it clean) black ES.

    I notice you're in Illinois too. Maybe we'll meet at a stoplight somewhere next spring and we'll both be in our new Pros. I'm just trying to hold out long enough to use my tax refund as a downpayment (yes, I know, I know, but I'm in a significantly bigger new house this year and I don't know how much to withhold yet, so I'm being careful to avoid a penalty (can you tell I spent some time at Motley Fool in years past?)).

    twist
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I was looking on the web from the New York Times at pictures of the WTC towers as they were burning, and after they cell. Before they fell, there were people all lined up at the windows trying to get out. There is this one pic of a man jumping head first and just falling in mid-air. I can not believe these pics. One especially touched me. In a pile of rubble sat a lone picture like you and I and alot of people have on our desks of our friends together. Truly sad. God bless all those who are affected by this terrible tragedy.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    It was I, my dear, dear friend, who recommended the Yoko AVID T4s as a replacement tire. Let me speak for myself here, since some people get really irritated when others say "some people" this and "most people" that:

    I purchased my Protege because it's a sporty-feeling, fast, handsome economy sedan. I can get a thrill without feeling like I bought a 1985 Toyota Corolla (and the associated lobotomy).

    One thing I really HATE about my Protege -- and it's not Mazda's fault -- is the hard, noisy, short-lived, hydroplane-prone Bridgestone Potenza RE92 tires that came on it. They make the car drone over grooved pavement, they transmit all kinds of noise and vibrations into the car, and they handle like racing slicks in the rain. The exact same tires could have killed me in 1992. Because of those tires, I know what it feels like to have a bruised sternum from hitting your seatbelt at 45 mph. I know what it feels like to slam both hands through your windshield. And I know what it feels like to look over into the front passenger's footwell and see your girlfriend's right leg taking a 90-degree left turn where it shouldn't. Because of those tires, I know what it feels like to ride in an ambulance on a back board, wearing a head brace.

    I didn't buy this car so I could drive 100 mph+ on the Interstate. If I'd wanted that kind of car, I don't think a Protege would've been anywhere on my list. Yes, I have driven this car at 100 mph on the Interstate. But I only did it to see if I could; frankly I was scared as hell and would never, ever consider staying at that speed for more than a few seconds.

    I WANT -- truly want -- a more comfortable ride than the Potenzas provide. I'm tired of having to raise my voice to talk to my wife on the highway. The AVIDs are still T speed-rated, I believe, and while they're not Vs, they'll still handle any speed I'll ever want to go. Yeah, maybe they don't corner as well as the Bridgestones -- but they'll corner fine for my driving habits. The AVIDs also are all-season tires. I don't want to buy Nittos or Kumho Ecstas and then have to purchase another set of tires for winter. I'm sold on the AVIDs because they appear to offer the kind of ride I'm looking for for not a lot of bucks. I also have other responsibilities in my life right now, like a baby and a wife who's out of work, and I don't have an unlimited supply of cash for tires. I recommended the tires to Larry because I've met him, I know what he uses his car for most of the time, and I thought he might want to consider them too. I'm not saying they're the tire for everyone. I was just elated to find a high-quality, quiet-riding tire that retained some semblance of handling for a good price.

    I still think it sounds like you didn't make the right choice when you bought your car. You tend to talk about your Protege as if it's an Acura or a Lexus. It ain't! It's an economy car that has some fun built into it. And we all know you came from an RX-7. You're used to a car that was designed to be tossed around the road.

    Keep in mind I'm only speaking for myself here. Your tastes obviously are different. I've played with Proteges for 10 years, and I've had nary a problem with them -- you're wearing out parts on your 1-year-old car that I didn't wear out in 83,000 miles.

    You can shod any car with high-performance tires and drive the hell out of it, pushing it past its limits. You can also shod your own feet with $100 Nike basketball shoes, but it won't make you Michael Jordan.

    There. That's the end of my editorial.

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    OK guys, you know who you are. Why have I only heard back from three of the 11 people I e-mailed 24 hours ago? Some of you have posted here in that time frame, so I know you're not dead and your computers didn't explode.

    Like they say in the Publisher's Clearinghouse commercials:

    COME ON! SEND IT IN!

    Meade
  • protegenicprotegenic Member Posts: 199
    Vocus, as you know I had an accident in my Protege a month or so ago. Finally got it out of the shop yesterday. It looks and drives fine, but I voiced my displeasure to my agent yesterday about the price of repairs/market value ratio. As part of the conversation, State Farm did a quick survey to determine the market value of my car (a 99 ES). It came up to $11,500. Now, they are probably being overly generous, but I can't imaging how your car would be the same price. Was this a trade-in figure you recieved, because you know they are going to mess with you?
  • yooper53yooper53 Member Posts: 286
    "displeasure...about the price of repairs/market value ratio." This sounds like one of those things I should be aware of but don't have a clue. (Assuming the repairs were done to your satisfaction) Care to elaborate? Thanks in advance.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    OK everyone, it's official! Six responses have CONFIRMED four Proteges in attendance on October 6. I'm still waiting to hear from six of you who have indicated your interest, plus anyone else out there who's been lurking and considering! We'll be meeting at a park about 25 miles from Washington, D.C. for a day of Protege gloating! What else could be more fun? (Don't answer that, Steve -- you traitor.) :)

    I still need to hear from:

    krotine
    mazdafun
    black01coupev6
    repj
    Pat (our beloved host)
    ... and David, our resident "lurker."

    An e-mail from you to me (mdaffron@the-rma.org) will get you all the details.

    By the way, I don't wanna hear any whining about any long drives to get to MAPP II -- first of all, Proteges are a blast on the highway, and second, we have one person from MICHIGAN who's planning on coming!!!

    Let's hear from YOU!

    Meade
  • protegenicprotegenic Member Posts: 199
    The repair bill was quite high. I was pushing for my insurance to consider totalling the car since with all the incentives right now, I would not come out too bad. What happened is that the repair bill just kept climbing as they discovered new parts they needed to where the repair bill was quite high in relation to the value of the car. Apparently it wasn't high enough!

    That said, I am confident the shop did a good job on the repairs. There are still some items for them to follow up on, but the car looks and drives very well. The accident I had on the surface did not look too severe, as I was only hit on the back 8 inches of the vehicle, but when you add up the parts and labor, the price was pretty staggering. The good news was there was no frame or mechanical damage to speak of. Just body parts. I think if I had been hit a few inches forward, I would be driving a new Protege now. Oh well.
  • duh_sterduh_ster Member Posts: 102
    hey all,
    so i got my car back finally! that little zit that once appeared on my roof is gone! and i won't have to worry about cleaning my interior sunroof cover, as the dealership remembered to clean it themselves (hey, they actually did something right!) thanx for all the advice..
    pf - did u go with tint or stereo??
    'duh'
  • protegenicprotegenic Member Posts: 199
    The repair bill was quite high. I was pushing for my insurance to consider totalling the car since with all the incentives right now, I would not come out too bad. What happened is that the repair bill just kept climbing as they discovered new parts they needed to where the repair bill was quite high in relation to the value of the car. Apparently it wasn't high enough!

    That said, I am confident the shop did a good job on the repairs. There are still some items for them to follow up on, but the car looks and drives very well. The accident I had on the surface did not look too severe, as I was only hit on the back 8 inches of the vehicle, but when you add up the parts and labor, the price was pretty staggering. The good news was there was no frame or mechanical damage to speak of. Just body parts. I think if I had been hit a few inches forward, I would be driving a new Protege now. Oh well.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    I went with a DVD/MP3 player for my house instead.
    I'm glad they got the scratches out ok and even cleaned the sunroof. I hope you're enjoying zoom zooming around Calgary.

    Protege_fan
  • hobbs3hobbs3 Member Posts: 6
    Sorry to here about your ticket but I was hoping you could give me more advice. You helped me out with my steering wheel hazing(I used a very mild hot soapy water) and it cleared it up, but now that hazing has come back and spread a bit. When I say hazing, I mean parts of the steering wheel cap that isn't as dark as the rest of it. Is this covered under the warranty? Should I break down and try Armor All? If I use Armor All, will I have to keep using it forever. Is there something I can use to clean the silver accents on the exterior? Is this enough questions for you? Thanks for your help
  • duh_sterduh_ster Member Posts: 102
    how many of u down-shift when slowing down (obviously, i'm speaking to the 5-spd-ers out there)?? i have had to use a considerable amount of force to down shift from 2nd to 1st. is this normal?? how can i "ease it in" a bit better?? the clutch pedal is down all the way but i still have difficulties...i've even tried pulling the shifter all the way to the left, before pushing up into 1st, but i'm still met with a lot of resistance. there's no odd engine noises that accompany the downshift..
    thanx in advance
    'duh'
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    That is normal. You are NOT supposed to downshift from 2nd to 1st unless you are stopped.
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