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Bill's 95 VDP with 143K and 3 previous bad accidents on it still breaks 140mph!
They do about 145. Trust me. Ron, hit the Greenway around 9am on a Sunday!
(DAMN I love new P6000s... this sucker is worthless. I'm gonna see how long it lasts!)
$21,700.. Topaz? 57K? You could beat your head in and maybe do better, but not a hell of a lot better. it's a good price, good miles for a 97, and Great color (Topaz=$$$$$$). I just saw a Sherwood Green one with similar miles do $18,700 at the auction so you are doing fine (Sherwood is a crappy color valuewise and this one had loads of resprya on the front seats).
Sure as hell beats a new Camry for the cash!
Bill
If you are low on fluid your high pressure hose is probably leaking. Have it reclamped if they can.
Bill
Jaguar (Your local dealer will be happy to nail you to the wall pricewise)
Crosland (They make em for above)
Unipart (Made by Crosland, Unipart is to Jaguar as Mopar is to Chrysler).
I do not like Frams. they sucketh.
Order a bunch from jagbits.com or coventrywest.com and get em for prolly $9-11 each.
Bill
Mike
Also, I've heard of a power steering additive, I believe is called "Lucas", ironically. Have you heard of it?
Mike
95 XJ6
Any similar experiences or suggestions?
Thanks.
skm2
Obviously, something is wrong, despite what the "experts" (ahem) at your dealer say.
Amen to that. They sucketh for every make, not just Jags.
Mike
Basically, crappy construction.
As far as batteries? I just use whatever, but then I like to live dangerously. Optimas are great, and a waste of $$ in a Jaguar.
Bill
Charcoal Interior is better up north.. even so, used XJRs are rare.
$58K is not outrageous. It's about what I am paying for them as a dealer (Assuming a perfect low-mile car).
Wait, this is a retail deal? And a select?
Checkbook Time!
BillAny advice on the negotiation? I'm not really into nickling/diming over the price, but are there any dealer options or other things that they would throw in to make a deal?
Seriously, if they are ASKING $58K, then start em up at $55K.
But, hell. If they are firm, you buy it anyways. Always ask if you can get some T-Shirts at least.. something.. but that is a very good price for an 02 XJR.
I oughta know, I just bought one for a customer (Jag dealer) and I paid $57K for a 15K mile 02 and they had it sold for $65K.
So, In other words, if they say $58K or the highway, you're still getting much better than a fair price. But do try and negotiate, they coulda gotten lucky and grabbed it for $52K from somewhere and have some room(I doubt it tho). But with a used car, it is worth what it is worth. In this case $57-58K wholesale and about $62-63K retail.
Bill
When I got off the freeway I floored it at a stoplight and neglected to notice the traction control was off. That was interesting. I pulled back right away, and as I did so I looked in my rear view mirror and wondered "How did those people suddenly get do far away?"
You wanna make a quick $2,500 on it?
Dang.. you got a great deal from, well, a pretty weak salesperson who was desperate to sell it wounds like!
You stole the car. Congrats
And, yes, they do kick serious butt!
Bill
I know you recommend Castrol oil for the Jag. Is this the regular grade or are you referring to a different premium grade oil by Castrol? Why do you you prefer Castrol over other comparably priced oils?
Mike
I don't know if this was already posted, but go to http://www.4car.co.uk to see pictures of the new XJ. It's now on the front page, but if not, check under Spy Shots. Supposedly the car is 40% lighter than the outgoing XJ (which dates back to 1968). The XJ6 (240 HP V6 from the S-Type) also returns...but that could be just for the European market.
The car looks good...maybe because it looks almost exactly the same as the old XJ. Same for the interior...take the old XJ and add the new S-Type center console.
Todd
I'm skeptical of either the 40% weight loss or the 5.3 0-60 speed. My guess is the author took the 0-60 speed from the S-type R. If they really dropped 1600lbs. of the car, my bet is they're intentionally trying to go sub 5 to beat the E55 and the M5. I know my XJR beats those on style, but it would be nice to beat them on the road as well. I saw an M5 this morning and the styling is definitely sub par.
Remember, that's 40% reduction in the weight of the body, not the entire car. Which is a very reasonable estimate for an aluminum body.
it's factory-fill and British cars seem to like it better
Bill
I WANT ONE!
Bill
Oh, and I did TELL Wesdr that if he didnt want the XJR that I did, but the EC buyer was not I
I am the proud owner of a new 2002 XJ Sport. (By the way, if you can still find a 2002, the are going for 799/39mo lease with 0 down).
I love the car overall, but I am beginning to think they dialed in the suspension a bit too firm. On rough roads here in ole Ohio, its downright punishing- and the dash is already starting to rattle.
I know that the car comes with uprated springs and shocks per Jaguar - like the XJ-R. The funny thing is, I don't remember the R being this harsh. As much as I hate to do it, I am thinking about having my dealer trade out the springs and/or shocks with stock XJ8 units. I have already checked the tire pressure, etc.
My question is: should I do just springs, shocks and springs ($$$), or just suck it up and live with it?
If anyone has some experience/advice, I would appreciate it!
Dave
Also, on my last post I guess I wasn't thinking about the weight correctly. My main point was that the 5.3 stat is probably coming from the S-Type R, and that hopefully the new XJ will meet or beat the performance of the current M5 and E55. If it does not, it seems like a big waste of development time and money. They could have gained the small increase in HP and speed just by improving the supercharger.
One more thing on the XJR. I had thought the manual shifting option was a bit hookey until I actually used it. It's a lot nicer to downshift and ease ahead of someone instead of having to floor it to downshift. Especially when your wife's screaming at you from the passenger's seat.
Wes: I hear that the next-gen E55 (or whatever they will name it) in 2003-4 is getting a bump in power, plus their might be a supercharged stock version with around 500hp.
Then again, since I love both the E55 and the XJR, I suggest getting one of each, just to cover all the bases.
Bob
They are just startin to get cheap...
You know guys, I have seen some of these carson No Reserve auctions on eBay doing less than I can buy them for...
Bill
Who is not dumb enough to list XJ8s on eBay
Thanks again for your price/advice.
$15,000 for a 1993 XJ6? Actually, it is not more than the car is worth. That's in "Seller needs to be in rehab" territory.
I'm selling similar mile 95-96s for that kinda $$.
PASS. It's a $7,000-8,000 car.. MAYBE if it's REALLY nice (Should be a '94, 93s (94 Model Year) have BBS-Style wheels and driver's airbag only. You want a dual airbag car as they have the updates of the real 94 Model Year cars.
Bill
I'm thinking of a sedan to compliment the XJS.
94s? All the money for a VDP is $10-11K for low miles and pristine at the moment, they have come down about $2-3K in the past year.
XJ6s can be had for $10K.
We're talking creampuffs.
Diamond Blue is not a great color on XJ40s for some reason...
Bill
So, if a 94 creampuff is $10K, how much would a nice clean one be?
NetRanger4
Gary: Yeahup, Diamond Blue was a 1990-1994 Color.
A clean 94 XJ6 should run ya $8,500ish...
Bill
I guess the most important question should be, Is there anything as far a wax or cleaning products to avoid or to prefer? Also, I have 2 scratches that may go deeper than the clearcoat. One is on the rear bumper and is so small that I probably wouldn't notice it if I didn't know how I did it (the reverse sensor should really give you its highest warning when you're 2 inches away instead of 8). The other one is not visable-it is under the front bumper and resulted from scraping a parking curb when I left a lot with 3 more people than I pulled in with. My question on these is, is there any reason to get them fixed sooner rather than later, and what can I expect to pay to have it done?
Also, I'm curious how often I should expect to need new brakes and Z rated tires. I've realize that my "free" 20,000 mile service is probably going to be expensive. Are there any other chargable service items they look for at that point?
Thanks in advance. I got my own answer to the phone question ($1750) and I'm curious what Dave decided to do on his XJ sport ride issue. I mentioned lowering the tire pressure, but I've seen on Jag lovers that that's not recommended for low profile tires as you can damage the wheels. However, you still may want to check it b/c the dealer could have jacked up the pressure to give it the sporty feel on the test drive. If you really don't like the ride it seems like you should have spent the extra cash on a VDP instead of a sport, b/c that ride is what you paid for.
Any views that these are material, compelling frame improvements over 2000-and-before?
Context is "buy or wait?" The 2000s are coming off 3-year leases, or wait around for the 2001s to cheapen some more. Thanks.
synthetic? or regular?
thanks.
is there an easy fix?
it's a 1996 xj6
thanks.
Throttle sticky? You sir may need to have the throttle body PROPERLY cleaned DO NOT PUT WD40 NEAR IT! I do believ it has silicone in it. Wanna ruin your cat convertor and 02 sensor? =O
On occasion they need new throttle return springs too.
Not a big deal... You can do it yourself if you're familiar with these things, but, if you arent you may wanna pass
Bill
Me likes Zymol...
Initially, there were many electrical issues and cosmetic issues to fix that I didn't notice at time of purchase. The dealership "inspection program" was a joke, I found out. Their excuse was that another dealership did the inspection before the car went up for sale, so they weren't responsible for all the things that were broken at the time of purchase.
The car has been back at least 6 times for repairs at 2 different dealerships. At first you couldn't even hear the engine run, now it runs loud and rough and there is a horrible metallic grind in the car when it starts. It sounds like a forgotten wrench is flying around under the hood. It scares people and I get horrified looks from them if they are anywhere near the car when it starts. I just got the car back from the dealership--it was there 2 days and they say that the car isn't making any unusual sounds and it's in perfect working order. The first time I started the car, there was the sound, and there was my friend with the horrified look...he also owns a jaguar and didn't recognize the rumble... Last month they said the sound was from a "broken pipe" that they fixed. If a problem can be fixed, it really doesn't bother me, especially since the car is still under warranty. It's the ones that I have to live with that bug me, and that's not why I bought a jaguar XJR. I just want to ride around in speedy, responsive luxury.
The tires wore out quickly, after 7K miles... They wore quickly and unevenly, even though I had the car into the dealership for realigment. I took it in yesterday for new tires. The tire guy said the wrong size tires were on the car, they were too small. He checked the spare and said the rim on the spare was badly bent and that the spare tire was useless. It was so bald that the steel was showing through it badly and it made the tires I was replacing look brand new!
Finally, the leather on the driver's seat back is cracked on the left side. It looked perfect when I purchased it, but quickly developed whitish cracks which became unsightly. The dealership told me that the person who owned the car before me probably let his wallet rub there and there was nothing they could do. However, the seat didn't look like this when I purchased the car or I wouldn't have bought it. They refused to replace the seat, but when I picked the car up, the seat looked perfect. Now, 2 months later, the cracked look is back...apparently the polish has worn off. I am upset that the dealership hid the defective worn leather seat from me with polish when they sold me the car, and they refuse to repair the seat.
I think this car had the mileage turned back on it before I bought it. There is no reason the seat should be this worn. My last car was a Mercedes w/ 100k miles on it...no problems, leather looked brand new.
Sorry for the griping, I am hoping people in this discussion group will have suggestions for me on what I should do about the above seat, engine, rim and tire problems.
BTW, I now realize from reading this discussion that I need to get my sagging sunroof's liner fixed!
I must say, when I test drove a '99 XJR last year, it nearly rattled my teeth going over expansion joints in the road. I wasn't sure if that was from being used or not, but jeez!
My question is this: There are apparently 4 brands of "Jaguar" oil filters - Jaguar, Lucas, Unipart, and Crossland. The first 3 are white color, and cost about $9. As for Crossland, I've seen black Crossland filters that cost twice that, and blue Crossland filters at only $6.
I want the best for my car, and wonder if these "black" Crossland filters are any better, or should I stick to the white Jaguar/Lucas/Unipart, which all appear to be the same.
I've also heard excellent things about Mobil 1 and K&N filters, both made by the same manufacturer.