I got quotes for $21275, $21060 and $20280 (!) from three "local" dealers via internet. Going live to a 4th one today.
The 3rd price is $4 over invoice, I think. All say they include delivery (not tax or registration). In the invoice case, the salesman did not respond to the internet quote request, and I had to follow up with the internet manager (who I assume screamed at him). I did buy a car from them once before. And... the car is "en route, due any day". So I could see that they could make money off holdback, since they would know the car would never sit on the lot.
Although scanning the forum I have seen other close-to-invoice prices for SIs, can you say skeptical?
What are the odds the "en route" car will show up with Navi, never show, the price will be a mistake? (Impossible to answer, of course)
I was looking for a Civic EX-L and I got some great quotes, a few dealers were even below invoice. I checked multiple times, and every time I was promised they had the car in question in stock, but alas I show up and I was told the car was just sold. In fact, once I spoke to a dealer last friday at 5 PM, and by the next morning at 10, I was told the car was sold. May be the car(s) were sold indeed, but be wary of the prices which are very close to invoice.
I finally ended up with a civic ex-l at about a 1000 over invoice, but the overall feeling I got was the Honda dealers I dealt with were utter slimy creatures. I am sure there are other users here who have had great experiences with their Honda dealers, but I am so turned off with the few dealers that I dealt with. When it comes to my next car, I am definitely inclined to look at all the other manufacturers out there. I anticipate there will be a lot more choices for these small/hybrid cars in a few years.
I made an offer on a 2008 Civic. Have a Trade In. I was told an Independent Buyer will be at my next dealership appointment. Does that mean if the Indep Buyer is not happy with my Trade In down the road. . .he could cite Lemon Law or something and ask for his money back? Does any one know how this works?
Total bulls-it and hopefully you didn't buy from these stealerships! They obviously lied to get you into their store and that kind of selling really stinks. Had that happen to me twice when we bought our Mazda and was really pissed off. No way they can sell a car when it was just there an hour previously...and at 2 different stores. Isell, what do you think about this sales tactic and from all your posts, I know you would never pull this garbage. Read your posts for years now and I think you are pretty honest with your responces. No reason for you to lie to people who'll never step foot in your door, as most of us live thousands of miles away.
Sort of what I expect, although this is a reputable dealership. The one I went to drive was sold today - and it was missing, so I think it really was (no reason to hide a car from a buyer). They had no other Si models.
I think we are also close to end of model year, so that may affect supply.
I am not compelled to buy now - I can wait (my wife would prefer that I wait a l-o-n-g time :-)
Looked at used Mini Cooper S and BMW 330xi, new Sentra SE-R spec V... the Civic Si is fun.
I agree that the SI was the way I wanted to go until I found out it take premium unleaded, only. But, if I could afford it, that's what I really wanted.
I had a 97 red prelude that's beautiful! Had to go for the 2.9% finance beings my car was 11 years old. The only problem with the new coupe is that it's auto. I wanted the 5-speed but, the at was the last EX and in the color I wanted. I love it despite the fact that's it's certainly not the 5-speed I had. and I'm not used to the AT thing. Can't have everything.
As I have said many times. I wish people would ask family, friends and others for a referral instead of frantically trying to wring the last dollar out of a dealer.
You have slimy stores and slimy salespeople who will say anything in order to get a customer in the door. You also have cheap customers who will lie too as they pit dealer against dealer in their frantic zeal to "save" money.
As a referral customer, you will be welcomed with open arms and you will be treated well. In the end, you will probably pay no more than you would if you play the game.
I despise some of the sales tactics I hear about but quite honestly, In some cases the shoppers almost bring this on themselves.
I am considering some sort of new car and have test driven an Si. A co-worker has two Jetta TDI's getting almost 50mpg. I've often wondered what "the numbers" would be when compared to an Si at 31mpg (hwy) or an EX at 39mpg. So I made a spreadsheet and posted it for all to use. Check it out:
If this works correctly, any of you should be able to change the blue cells to reflect your particular situation. The results are interesting, and make it much easier to sift through some of the info learned from this great forum. Keep in mind that the numbers I used are not exact, but just numbers found on this (or other) forums from actual user experiences. YMMV. :P Don't "Save and Close", just exit.
Enjoy; feedback appreciated!
(Posted in the "Prices Paid" forum to help others considering one particular vehicle over another crunch the fuel cost numbers)
^^^^ Yup, sure did. Fuel price is a cell in the spreadsheet so an accurate comparison can be made from one car to another, no matter the mileage, fuel type, or price/gal.
What area do you live in? Judging by your user ID, I assume you must live in NorCal. Well, can you name the dealerships from which you are still able to get Civics at invoice? I am trying to get a EX-L Coupe. What do you think is a fair OTD price considering the current supply shortage? Is it better to just wait for the 2009 models if I am not able to get under MSRP, let alone close to invoice?
Could you email me the name of the sales guy you talked to? or give me his initials? Did you buy this car from Honda on Grand on 7/13/08? I'm talking to them right now to try to buy a civic lx at and they are telling me 19,901 otd.
I am very mad because I can not get prices close to invoice in the Dallas-Fort Worth area in Texas. Anyone in the same area? I am looking for a LX sedan
Last December, we purchased a 2008 LX sedan from Rusty Wallis Honda in Dallas for $100 over invoice. They had the best price in the DFW metroplex at the time. I don't know what prices look like now since I'm no longer in the market.
Don't know if you got in touch with Marcus but I was the original post about Willett Honda (post #7150). There's another post #7165 which details the breakdown of the costs for my daughter's car along with the first name of the internet sales manager she used. Good luck. She loves her car.
I am getting a Civic EX-L Coupe (no Navi) for $23,000 OTD. Am I overpaying or is this a reasonable deal considering the current market conditions? Thanks in advance for your input!
What style did your daughter get? Was it a Civic LX Automatic factory equipped without any major options missing (i.e. power windows)? Let me know when you can. I am going to begin the process of dealing and all help is appreciated. Thanks.
She got a 2008 4 dr AT LX Civic in the Galaxy Gray which had 3 miles on it when she took it on a test drive. It is equipped with all of the options listed as "standard" on the Honda website (ABS, airbags, power windows, power locks etc). She did not get any sort of appearance package or dealer option package. She did not get anything fancier like leather seats, navi etc. It's what I refer to as the "basic" LX.
She bought the car on June 30. Since that was at the end of the month, I don't know how that will impact your negotiations. Dealerships usually seem to give more aggressive pricing close to the end of the month.
The internet manager she dealt with was Mr. Tryan B. If you mention that my daughter (Marissa) recommended him, she gets a thank you gift!
Other dealerships called Willett liars and told my daughter that the deal would never materialize when she went to buy the car. As I said in my first post, they gave her a price, stood by it, no hassle, no pressure. What more could you ask for. Good luck!
I am in the Atlanta area, I need help in getting a good price for a LX Sedan AT. Can you tell how your daughter got the OTD price so low. So far my best offer has been 19391. Did she just randomly email the dealer? Also, would appreciate feedback from anyone, on atllanta area current prices. I would like to buy next weekend jul-25-27. thanks
Not sure how she got such a good deal and yes she did just email the dealers. But she also started out with a list of over 20 dealerships and then worked from there. It's also been a little over a month since she first asked for the quotes. Maybe pricing has gotten much worse since then. I do know that she got her second best price from Carey Paul Honda.
Most of the in town dealerships gave her extremely high quotes and even though they said that their pricing "wouldn't be beat," when she gave them the quote from Willett they totally backed away. I would recommend asking for quotes in at least a 50-100 mile radius of Atlanta. If you can save a thousand dollars or more it would seem to be worth it to drive to get the car. All you need to do is go to Honda.com and they can give you a list of all the surrounding dealerships. I'd start from there.
Hello, I just purchased a Certified Pre-Owned 2004 Civic LX Sedan for $14,600 OTD. Vehicle is in supreme condition with only 18,XXX miles. The warranty is for Powertrain for 7 years/100,000 Mi & 1 year/12,000 Mi limited warranty. Edmunds TMV has the car listed for $14,075 before TT&L. Can anyone tell me how did I do. Please be blunt, even if I got ripped off or not. Thanks, appreciate it.
I wrote last week about a $4 over invoice Civic Si price for a car to come in, and I was skeptical. I owe the dealership for that skepticism. Car came 4-5 days later, they held it for me with a refundable deposit, I went and drove it, and the price was just as offered.
$20280 + tax + docs (state fees + $45). All as they promised, and fast and easy.
I just want to second that the deals are to be had at Willett Honda. Mine was an automatic 2008 Sedan LX out the door for 18141. Pretty sweet price for such a hot car. Email me and I'll give you all the details!
Did you by any chance price the Ex Sedan AT? Please advise on prices to expect see in the Atlanta area on the EX Automatic Sedan as well as the LX Thanks
My wife really wanted a Prius but being in the Bay Area, its like impossible to get one. So instead I finally convinced her to either a Civic Hyrbid or an EX - or maybe even an Accord. Did anyone have a good experience recently? I'm willing to travel even.
I am looking to lease a Civic LX or EX Sedan AT. What payments should I be looking at paying. I am trying to get it to around $200 a month. Is this at all possible to achieve?
I have been wanting a civic, but Central Florida prices are outrageous. One delearship asked for 20k. I wanted to know if there is any dealing either in central or northen florida that has been reasonable.
A reporter would like to speak with consumers who are thinking about trading in a gas-guzzler for a more fuel-efficient vehicle. If you are in the process of making this decision, please respond to jwahl@edmunds.com with your daytime contact information no later than Wednesday, July 22nd.
Hi, I m in Atlanta. I bought a LX Sedan AT in 2007. It was $18k OTD then. If you think this price is good, I can ask the dealer for you. I can also get $100 introduce bonus. :P
Bought an LX AT yesterday at Huntington Honda (Long Island, NY) Price: $17,269.00 NY Sales Tax (8.625%) $1,489.45 NYS Waste Tire Management Fee: $12.50 (wtf?) :confuse: Dealer fee for processing registration & title: $45.00 NYS Inspection: $10.00 TOTAL OTD: $18,825.95
I got the price from an ad they ran in last Friday's paper. 2 other dealers ran an ad with the same price +/- $100. This is my 5th car from this dealer in the last 5 years, and the 2nd in 3 months (both Civics). Plus they had the color I wanted. Regular rates on AHFC financing.
Off topic: Has anyone been to a dealer where a computer generates the sales contract instead of having the salesman write it up by hand? Or have the leasing or financing contract generated by computer instead of typing on a pre-printed form?Why is the "paperwork" part of the purchasing process the same as it was 15 years ago? :mad:
I live in the Racine area. Could you tell me the name of the dealer in Sheboygan. The dealers in Racine aren't very helpful or friendly for that matter.
lakeland toyota/honda. dealt w/ the internet guy dave lindow. he said they are now out of civics, though he'll probably be honest with you once the 09's come in.
Open Road in Edison and Clinton Honda were ok. got an 08 civic 4dr ex auto for 20k OTD two weeks ago from Clinton. I've heard that you might get one for as low as 19,200 and a bit. I just got tired of arguing. the Lehigh Valley, Doylestown, and Phillipsburg Honda dealerships were useless. Be ready for the financing people to try to sell you service contracts, wax and whatnot after you have completed the car deal.
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The 3rd price is $4 over invoice, I think. All say they include delivery (not tax or registration). In the invoice case, the salesman did not respond to the internet quote request, and I had to follow up with the internet manager (who I assume screamed at him). I did buy a car from them once before. And... the car is "en route, due any day". So I could see that they could make money off holdback, since they would know the car would never sit on the lot.
Although scanning the forum I have seen other close-to-invoice prices for SIs, can you say skeptical?
What are the odds the "en route" car will show up with Navi, never show, the price will be a mistake? (Impossible to answer, of course)
I can wait, but I'd rather not wait long.
Thanks for your thoughts. Tim
I was looking for a Civic EX-L and I got some great quotes, a few dealers were even below invoice. I checked multiple times, and every time I was promised they had the car in question in stock, but alas I show up and I was told the car was just sold. In fact, once I spoke to a dealer last friday at 5 PM, and by the next morning at 10, I was told the car was sold. May be the car(s) were sold indeed, but be wary of the prices which are very close to invoice.
I finally ended up with a civic ex-l at about a 1000 over invoice, but the overall feeling I got was the Honda dealers I dealt with were utter slimy creatures. I am sure there are other users here who have had great experiences with their Honda dealers, but I am so turned off with the few dealers that I dealt with. When it comes to my next car, I am definitely inclined to look at all the other manufacturers out there. I anticipate there will be a lot more choices for these small/hybrid cars in a few years.
Best,
Gundan
Isell, what do you think about this sales tactic and from all your posts, I know you would never pull this garbage. Read your posts for years now and I think you are pretty honest with your responces. No reason for you to lie to people who'll never step foot in your door, as most of us live thousands of miles away.
The Sandman
I think we are also close to end of model year, so that may affect supply.
I am not compelled to buy now - I can wait (my wife would prefer that I wait a l-o-n-g time :-)
Looked at used Mini Cooper S and BMW 330xi, new Sentra SE-R spec V... the Civic Si is fun.
The only problem with the new coupe is that it's auto. I wanted the 5-speed but, the at was the last EX and in the color I wanted. I love it despite the fact that's it's certainly not the 5-speed I had. and I'm not used to the AT thing. Can't have everything.
You have slimy stores and slimy salespeople who will say anything in order to get a customer in the door. You also have cheap customers who will lie too as they pit dealer against dealer in their frantic zeal to "save" money.
As a referral customer, you will be welcomed with open arms and you will be treated well. In the end, you will probably pay no more than you would if you play the game.
I despise some of the sales tactics I hear about but quite honestly, In some cases the shoppers almost bring this on themselves.
Google Docs Gas Mileage Spreadsheet
If this works correctly, any of you should be able to change the blue cells to reflect your particular situation. The results are interesting, and make it much easier to sift through some of the info learned from this great forum. Keep in mind that the numbers I used are not exact, but just numbers found on this (or other) forums from actual user experiences. YMMV. :P Don't "Save and Close", just exit.
Enjoy; feedback appreciated!
(Posted in the "Prices Paid" forum to help others considering one particular vehicle over another crunch the fuel cost numbers)
Did you buy this car from Honda on Grand on 7/13/08? I'm talking to them right now to try to buy a civic lx at and they are telling me 19,901 otd.
Anyone in the same area? I am looking for a LX sedan
Don't know if you got in touch with Marcus but I was the original post about Willett Honda (post #7150). There's another post #7165 which details the breakdown of the costs for my daughter's car along with the first name of the internet sales manager she used. Good luck. She loves her car.
Just a reflection of the market and inventory levels in your area.
Did you make the deal over the internet with Rusty Wallis?
What style did your daughter get? Was it a Civic LX Automatic factory equipped without any major options missing (i.e. power windows)? Let me know when you can. I am going to begin the process of dealing and all help is appreciated. Thanks.
She got a 2008 4 dr AT LX Civic in the Galaxy Gray which had 3 miles on it when she took it on a test drive. It is equipped with all of the options listed as "standard" on the Honda website (ABS, airbags, power windows, power locks etc). She did not get any sort of appearance package or dealer option package. She did not get anything fancier like leather seats, navi etc. It's what I refer to as the "basic" LX.
She bought the car on June 30. Since that was at the end of the month, I don't know how that will impact your negotiations. Dealerships usually seem to give more aggressive pricing close to the end of the month.
The internet manager she dealt with was Mr. Tryan B. If you mention that my daughter (Marissa) recommended him, she gets a thank you gift!
Other dealerships called Willett liars and told my daughter that the deal would never materialize when she went to buy the car. As I said in my first post, they gave her a price, stood by it, no hassle, no pressure. What more could you ask for. Good luck!
I am in the Atlanta area, I need help in getting a good price for a LX Sedan AT. Can you tell how your daughter got the OTD price so low. So far my best offer has been 19391. Did she just randomly email the dealer? Also, would appreciate feedback from anyone, on atllanta area current prices. I would like to buy next weekend jul-25-27. thanks
Not sure how she got such a good deal and yes she did just email the dealers. But she also started out with a list of over 20 dealerships and then worked from there. It's also been a little over a month since she first asked for the quotes. Maybe pricing has gotten much worse since then. I do know that she got her second best price from Carey Paul Honda.
Most of the in town dealerships gave her extremely high quotes and even though they said that their pricing "wouldn't be beat," when she gave them the quote from Willett they totally backed away. I would recommend asking for quotes in at least a 50-100 mile radius of Atlanta. If you can save a thousand dollars or more it would seem to be worth it to drive to get the car. All you need to do is go to Honda.com and they can give you a list of all the surrounding dealerships. I'd start from there.
Good luck with your search.
$20280 + tax + docs (state fees + $45). All as they promised, and fast and easy.
2008 Civic Si Sedan, silver, 7 miles on it.
Tim
marcusvaldes@bellsouth.net
Marcus
Please advise on prices to expect see in the Atlanta area on the
EX Automatic Sedan as well as the LX
Thanks
EX-L Sedan with Auto. Any colour is ok.
I have been wanting a civic, but Central Florida prices are outrageous. One delearship asked for 20k. I wanted to know if there is any dealing either in central or northen florida that has been reasonable.
Price: $17,269.00
NY Sales Tax (8.625%) $1,489.45
NYS Waste Tire Management Fee: $12.50 (wtf?) :confuse:
Dealer fee for processing registration & title: $45.00
NYS Inspection: $10.00
TOTAL OTD: $18,825.95
I got the price from an ad they ran in last Friday's paper. 2 other dealers ran an ad with the same price +/- $100. This is my 5th car from this dealer in the last 5 years, and the 2nd in 3 months (both Civics). Plus they had the color I wanted. Regular rates on AHFC financing.
Off topic: Has anyone been to a dealer where a computer generates the sales contract instead of having the salesman write it up by hand? Or have the leasing or financing contract generated by computer instead of typing on a pre-printed form?Why is the "paperwork" part of the purchasing process the same as it was 15 years ago? :mad:
I have been quoted invoice price for LX (17K) + Tax(7%) + Title + Doc fee (199$) + 7.5$ Tire fee.
Is this a good price? Can price be negotiated further?
What, exactly do you want?
Where are you? We are out, or practically out of cars!
got an 08 civic 4dr ex auto for 20k OTD two weeks ago from Clinton.
I've heard that you might get one for as low as 19,200 and a bit.
I just got tired of arguing. the Lehigh Valley, Doylestown, and Phillipsburg Honda dealerships were useless.
Be ready for the financing people to try to sell you service contracts, wax and whatnot after you have completed the car deal.